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Quincy Jones : Michael not in his coffin ...!

Started by mac5k, December 07, 2010, 04:59:17 PM

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M
December 07, 2010, 04:59:17 PM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I don't know if someone has already reported this info but it has been published yesterday in a French newspapers and this is the translation:

" I did not go to his funeral because I did not want to participate in this circus which was only of the show (entertainment), he says. He was not moreover even in the coffin. I went some weeks later to the real burial, to the cemetery. Without cameras. "  :?

Here the link but it's in French:
http://www.lepoint.fr/culture/la-nouvelle-affaire-jackson-06-12-2010-1271978_3.php


avatar_hesouttamylife
December 07, 2010, 05:11:33 PM #1 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

which funeral is he talking about, 1, 2 or was there also a 3 :?

"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue."

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World...
   and leaving me Speechless!

"True goodbyes are the ones never said

avatar_2good2btrue
December 07, 2010, 06:09:49 PM #2 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Mac....I translated the whole article for you and copied it here.(hope you don't mind)

CultureRSS Culture
The point - Posted on 06/12/2010 at 10:43

The new Jackson case
While the star's posthumous album coming out, Quincy Jones, the legendary producer, says his discomfort.

By Sacha Reins
Even in death, Michael Jackson still raging passions. His new album is not out yet that ignites the Net about it and that the single is already available, is strongly criticized. Quincy Jones, producer of the legendary King of Pop, claimed, when we met two months ago, not having heard the album of his former protege, but expressed doubts about the artistic quality of the company. "There are too many people involved and who are at war with each other and there is too much money at stake It corrupts everything and everyone starts to do anything. I'm not going to his funeral because I did not want to participate in this circus that was performing, "he said. But he was not even in the coffin. I went a few weeks later with the true burial at cemetery. Without cameras. "The album is titled Michael Jackson Michael , he released Dec. 10, days after a video game, Michael Jackson, The Experience , which offers its users to learn to dance like him on Thriller or Beat It, and a set of three DVDs, Michael Jackson's vision, which includes all the videos of his career. On Michael , whose first single, Hold my Hand , has warmed everyone's minds (some members of his family saying he was not the only one heard), the guests are Lenny Kravitz, Akon and 50 Cent. And Monster , the track recorded with it, is one of the strongest of the lot. Ten other posthumous albums are planned by 2017. Nothing that does not surprise Quincy. "There are great new songs from the time Bad and Thriller , "he confirms. I have hours and hours of recordings. They are available with one proviso: do not make any what. "

Marsupilami on speed

At age 68, Quincy Jones does not let the weight of years slow the race and he always jumps from one continent to another like a marsupilami on speed, alternating upscale partying in New York, cozy weekend in Provence, sessions recordings in LA His latest album, Soul Bossa Nostra , was released this week. It's an album quilt that brings hip-hoper, soul singers and stars of R & B. Jamie Foxx, John Legend, Snoop Dogg, Usher, LL Cool J, Wyclef Jean, Akon, Q-Tip and even Amy Winehouse appear in the credits.

"I do not think retirement is a concept understood by a creator," he said. If one morning I woke up without wanting to make music, it does mean one thing: I'm dead overnight ". At the risk of giving some ideas of posthumous album?
Quincy Jones, Soul Bossa Nostra (Polydor).

http://www.lepoint.fr/culture/la-nouvel ... 1978_3.php

Michael Jackson, Michael (Sony). Released on December 10.


avatar_2good2btrue
December 07, 2010, 06:17:45 PM #3 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I never believed MJ was in that coffin.  I think there was 2 coffins anyhow.

Thanks for posting this...


M
December 07, 2010, 06:25:13 PM #4 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

So...ummm....does this mean that Quincy actually viewed the body?? :cry: I know stupid question. We have seen the footage from the burial remember. I know Quincy was there. But how do we acutally know MJ was in THAT coffin at the burial done at night. Just grasping for straws here. Help me out someone. :(


P
December 07, 2010, 07:11:22 PM #5 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote

hesouttamylife wrote:

which funeral is he talking about, 1, 2 or was there also a 3

True, he says;

Quote

I went a few weeks later with the true burial at cemetery. Without cameras. "    

[/b]

when this happened is, assuming that this is true, a few burials were their children, the family that those children exposed to this pain?


M
December 07, 2010, 09:00:14 PM #6 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "mjboogie"

So...ummm....does this mean that Quincy actually viewed the body?? :cry: I know stupid question. We have seen the footage from the burial remember. I know Quincy was there. But how do we acutally know MJ was in THAT coffin at the burial done at night. Just grasping for straws here. Help me out someone. :(

Michael wasnt in any coffin! lol Remember? He's alive! It would be useless for him to lay in a coffin if it was going to be open casket.

P
December 07, 2010, 09:38:30 PM #7 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I still thought Michael was really dead when the Memorial was held on July 7, 2009, and even then I didn't think his body was in the coffin.  I just figured that the family wouldn't risk someone rushing the coffin during the service.  And if he really is dead, I also don't think his body was in the coffin at the "filmed" funeral, particularly after it had set for so long.  Although I do still believe that Michael is really alive.


avatar_MJonmind
December 07, 2010, 10:11:40 PM #8 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I was going to say maybe it was in a studio cemetery on set, but he said there were no cameras :? .


S
December 07, 2010, 11:03:22 PM #9 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "mjboogie"

So...ummm....does this mean that Quincy actually viewed the body?? :cry: I know stupid question. We have seen the footage from the burial remember. I know Quincy was there. But how do we acutally know MJ was in THAT coffin at the burial done at night. Just grasping for straws here. Help me out someone. :(

Quincy was not at the funeral.  Which part of the footage do you think you saw him in?

2
December 07, 2010, 11:43:13 PM #10 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Ugh, WTF???!!!! Who would keep a body that long? They aren't Egyptian; MJ wasn't embalmed and mummified with herbs!!  So, there were 3 funerals? Give me a break.

:roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:


M
December 08, 2010, 01:55:41 AM #11 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Many thanks 2good2btrue for the complete translation !

Now then some questions: why a fictive funeral without any body but with cameras ? What was the purpose ? And even better where is the footage and to to do what with this one  :?:

Too many questions not answered ... :x


M
December 08, 2010, 02:15:14 AM #12 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Quincy is right.  He wasn't in that coffin.  He wasn't in no coffin as far as I'm concerned.



I
December 09, 2010, 04:41:51 AM #13 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "2good2btrue"

Mac....I translated the whole article for you and copied it here.(hope you don't mind)

CultureRSS Culture
The point - Posted on 06/12/2010 at 10:43

The new Jackson case
While the star's posthumous album coming out, Quincy Jones, the legendary producer, says his discomfort.

By Sacha Reins
Even in death, Michael Jackson still raging passions. His new album is not out yet that ignites the Net about it and that the single is already available, is strongly criticized. Quincy Jones, producer of the legendary King of Pop, claimed, when we met two months ago, not having heard the album of his former protege, but expressed doubts about the artistic quality of the company. "There are too many people involved and who are at war with each other and there is too much money at stake It corrupts everything and everyone starts to do anything. I'm not going to his funeral because I did not want to participate in this circus that was performing, "he said. But he was not even in the coffin. I went a few weeks later with the true burial at cemetery. Without cameras. "The album is titled Michael Jackson Michael , he released Dec. 10, days after a video game, Michael Jackson, The Experience , which offers its users to learn to dance like him on Thriller or Beat It, and a set of three DVDs, Michael Jackson's vision, which includes all the videos of his career. On Michael , whose first single, Hold my Hand , has warmed everyone's minds (some members of his family saying he was not the only one heard), the guests are Lenny Kravitz, Akon and 50 Cent. And Monster , the track recorded with it, is one of the strongest of the lot. Ten other posthumous albums are planned by 2017. Nothing that does not surprise Quincy. "There are great new songs from the time Bad and Thriller , "he confirms. I have hours and hours of recordings. They are available with one proviso: do not make any what. "

Marsupilami on speed

At age 68, Quincy Jones does not let the weight of years slow the race and he always jumps from one continent to another like a marsupilami on speed, alternating upscale partying in New York, cozy weekend in Provence, sessions recordings in LA His latest album, Soul Bossa Nostra , was released this week. It's an album quilt that brings hip-hoper, soul singers and stars of R & B. Jamie Foxx, John Legend, Snoop Dogg, Usher, LL Cool J, Wyclef Jean, Akon, Q-Tip and even Amy Winehouse appear in the credits.

Quote

"I do not think retirement is a concept understood by a creator," he said. If one morning I woke up without wanting to make music, it does mean one thing: I'm dead overnight ".

[/b] At the risk of giving some ideas of posthumous album?

Quincy Jones, Soul Bossa Nostra (Polydor).

http://www.lepoint.fr/culture/la-nouvel ... 1978_3.php

Michael Jackson, Michael (Sony). Released on December 10.

the bolded part is what stood out to me the most. so if one morning he woke up not wanting to do music, he is trying to say that he is dead right? so if the creator (Michael) one day all of a sudden is not doing music (which he is) then he musty be really dead. but he still has his songs coming out. i don't know maybe i'm reading to much into it.

that being said, when my granddad passed away, within like a couple of weeks he was buried. it would basically be impossible to bury the body and wait for another funeral again. so i don't get the reason for the private one then. whats the point of doing a memorial for the  public and then their so called "private" funeral with family and friends only and then another one with no cameras??? that wouldn't make any sense. so why didn't they not avoid the cameras at the one in forest lawn?

"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation." - Michael Jackson

S
December 10, 2010, 11:06:16 AM #14 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

No one "viewed" the/a body...not even the family.  I posted a while back in another topic about the funeral and some one was asking about the statement Toy made on tv about the body I believe, and I posted that I visited Mike's cousin here in Detroit and when I asked him if he was going to the funeral he said no that Mrs. Jackson said not to make any "special trips" now this is someone who practically been around Mike since he was a baby but what he said next that was the real shocker....we me and my sister brought up what Toy said to BW and how she said that the family i.e the kids Paris in particular had a private viewing of the body and he looked at up with a smirk and said they didn't have an open casket! :shock:  :o  I was like but Latoya said....and he said "No" was no viewing of the body.  I ask him then what was Toy talking about and he said I don't know but what I do know but what I do know is that it was a closed casket.  So I guess it's safe to say that if his own family didn't view a body then you know Q didn't.;)


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