TIai update #6.5: Michael & Elvis, DOUBle-scam from TS??

[Andrea]

Mmm, I think TS may purposely sometimes write certain things in his updates in an ambiguous manner.  Meaning it can be interpreted in a number of different ways and opens up debates.  TS knows the updates cause controversy and maybe part of a test is to see if we can work it out ourselves or talk in circles, never really resolving anything.  We're the death hoax investigators and we feel that we "get it", we know Michael's alive and it's just a matter of time before the rest of the world knows.  But we DON'T know EVERYTHING and we're not supposed to and like I said before, TS can't give everything away in the updates because that's not how it's supposed to go down.  We're given bits and pieces to see if we can logically come up with the answers and sometimes I don't think we're necessarily supposed to - hence the ambiguity.  We do have an advantage over the  non-believers in that we can look at the evidences presented and have come to our own conclusions that Michael HAS to be alive - we are thinking for ourselves and not blindly believing what the media tells us.  BUT, if the rest of the world is being messed with, then we're not necessarily above being messed with too - by Michael - but that's cool because he's doing it for LOVE, he is actually DOING SOMETHING about the state of the world and making people realize what's really important.  I mean, if he doesn't try something drastic to change the world for the better - who else will??

[mjintrigue2012]

Mmm, I think TS may purposely sometimes write certain things in his updates in an ambiguous manner.  Meaning it can be interpreted in a number of different ways and opens up debates.  TS knows the updates cause controversy and maybe part of a test is to see if we can work it out ourselves or talk in circles, never really resolving anything.  We're the death hoax investigators and we feel that we "get it", we know Michael's alive and it's just a matter of time before the rest of the world knows.  But we DON'T know EVERYTHING and we're not supposed to and like I said before, TS can't give everything away in the updates because that's not how it's supposed to go down.  We're given bits and pieces to see if we can logically come up with the answers and sometimes I don't think we're necessarily supposed to - hence the ambiguity.  We do have an advantage over the  non-believers in that we can look at the evidences presented and have come to our own conclusions that Michael HAS to be alive - we are thinking for ourselves and not blindly believing what the media tells us.  BUT, if the rest of the world is being messed with, then we're not necessarily above being messed with too - by Michael - but that's cool because he's doing it for LOVE, he is actually DOING SOMETHING about the state of the world and making people realize what's really important.  I mean, if he doesn't try something drastic to change the world for the better - who else will??

Fantastic post, @Andrea.  I think that you are 100% on the mark here.  Controversy brings change!  Love to you.

[Andrea]

Mmm, I think TS may purposely sometimes write certain things in his updates in an ambiguous manner.  Meaning it can be interpreted in a number of different ways and opens up debates.  TS knows the updates cause controversy and maybe part of a test is to see if we can work it out ourselves or talk in circles, never really resolving anything.  We're the death hoax investigators and we feel that we "get it", we know Michael's alive and it's just a matter of time before the rest of the world knows.  But we DON'T know EVERYTHING and we're not supposed to and like I said before, TS can't give everything away in the updates because that's not how it's supposed to go down.  We're given bits and pieces to see if we can logically come up with the answers and sometimes I don't think we're necessarily supposed to - hence the ambiguity.  We do have an advantage over the  non-believers in that we can look at the evidences presented and have come to our own conclusions that Michael HAS to be alive - we are thinking for ourselves and not blindly believing what the media tells us.  BUT, if the rest of the world is being messed with, then we're not necessarily above being messed with too - by Michael - but that's cool because he's doing it for LOVE, he is actually DOING SOMETHING about the state of the world and making people realize what's really important.  I mean, if he doesn't try something drastic to change the world for the better - who else will??

Fantastic post, @Andrea.  I think that you are 100% on the mark here.  Controversy brings change!  Love to you.

Love to you too!    And love to those who read this, and love to those who don't.

[mysti]

Has anybody else seen that Oprah is going to interview Teddy Riley on 12/6?  I'm intrigued.

[White_Orchid]

I wondered if the Admins would consider re-assigning the TS posts to the Blog section?  Speaking for myself, I find it easier to read lengthy info in a blog format.

By the way, speaking of Blogs, Souza and Mo, you promised us a new Blog piece, is it ready yet?  
I really enjoy your blogs and I am anxiously waiting for your latest news.

 

[~Souza~]

I wondered if the Admins would consider re-assigning the TS posts to the Blog section?  Speaking for myself, I find it easier to read lengthy info in a blog format.

I have to make screenshots etc. before the post will be on the website, but working on it.

[MsTrinity333]

I've also noticed to my  :?  that all the TIAI videos & updates have been wiped from YouTube and this forum.[/b]

In fact, youtube deleted our entire channel around 5AM today due to a third time violation of copyrights.  This time it was a claim from Web Sheriff, concerning the video "Michael Jackson - Gangsta (No friend of mine)".

WOW.. THAT IS STRANGE!!!!!!!!!, why not only that video, why the entire channel???

Third violation. I wonder who that Web Sheriff is, because that video was up for months and months.

I think u should make a new account. and post all those videos again. not that gangsta video, but those Hoax videos were great. Maybe they wanted those videos removed, and that Web Sheriff used the gangsta video for a reason to do...

I second this.  Those videos are to valuable to loose.

Already uploading them again to my other account, but it might take a few days  :lol:

Good News.
The absence of TS Update videos has really done a number on my YouTube Channel!    
Yours is the second channel this web sheriff has deleted. The other channel was using some sort of "sony" video editing program and this sheriff deleted the entire channel & video catalog of the uploader.  This has left me with major holes in my playlists that I wont be able to fill till after the Holidays...  I just barely caught up from Thanksgiving!   :roll:
Which account are you referring to?  The YT link at the bottom of your post sig?  I'll make sure to subscribe so I don't loose you. 8-)
<3

[JMseesMJ]

Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.

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[Rita Hayworth]

This is interesting. It's almost the same style of writing and outlining as TS's. I noticed when TS first started to post that "he/she" uses an excessive amount of "commas" in his phrasing. The excessive use of "commas" is a style that hasn't been used in the American public school system for several years. It isn't wrong...but not commonly used now. He obviously takes great care in his grammar and writing style. Very similar to TS. Just an observation....no conclusion.

[PureLove]

Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.

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We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.

[LunaCielo]

I agree with Souza ... respect is fundamental and often slips down out of habit, for a joke... for  not read well and carefully ...for not to listen ....for  protagonism, for cause, for have fun etc.

The long post of  TS are precious mines  from which to extract the minerals a after another little by little. Refute or  to argue opinions  that's fine, but not debunk. :roll:

I do not think there are some Totem or Myths in this forum  that from time to time should be demolished.
We are here to investigate, exchange ideas on suspected hoax designed and questioning is fine if people feel the need to doubt certain things.

Everyone has their head to think and decide, there is no mythologizing of any person or at least should not exist ....
 

[Uranus]

Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.

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We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.

I do not know the topic you suggest. Yet I found this article about S.T.U.D.Y., that I definetely did not know of. So, only for those interested in old stories here is a link:

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[SoldierofLOVE]

Thanks for the link, Uranus.

And here is other information from the thread you reference on MJHD.  SD, I hope you don't mind me linking to your thorough research, please let us know if any of the info has changed since you first posted this on the other site:


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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. revealed
by Serenitys_Dream » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:02 pm

Okay so I went to Tim Simkins website at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
and I have read the links there.


xxxx wrote:
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An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself

This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.


xxxx wrote:
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Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).

This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.


xxxx wrote:
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There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.

This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.


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Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!

This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.


xxxx wrote:
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This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.

I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.

Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.

My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.

I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. There is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.


TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:


For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.

Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.

However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.

What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.

I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.

Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.

And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?

Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.Last edited by Serenitys_Dream on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total. Serenitys_Dream
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by Anna.K » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm

Serenitys_Dream wrote:
Okay so I went to Tim Simkins website at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
and I have read the links there.


xxxx wrote:
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An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself

This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.


xxxx wrote:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).

This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.


xxxx wrote:
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There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.

This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.


xxxx wrote:
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Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!

This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.


xxxx wrote:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.

I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.

Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.

My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.

I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. there is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.


TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:


For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.

Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.

However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.

What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.

I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.

Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.

And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?

Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.

The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
There's no sensation to compare with this
Suspended animation, a state of bliss
Can't keep my mind from the circling skies
Tongue-tied, twisted just an earthbound misfit
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by Serenitys_Dream » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:14 pm

Anna.K wrote:
The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
Actually you clearly have not read my post. The first PDF I linked says exactly that.

xxxx wrote:
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This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.

doc·trine n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Something taught; a teaching.

And Marlon Jackson did write "S.T.U.D.Y. peace" in the funeral book. This can be read two ways as in a clue to TS who at that time was using the screen name S.T.U.D.Y. and then "peace" as an ending to his message (goodbye sort of thing) or it could be a suggestion to utilize these educational tools, on the study.org site, in a quest for peace.Serenitys_Dream
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by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:40 am

Credit to Glinda @MJHDI

Jackson 5 : Man Of War Lyrics
Chorus:
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Why don't you
Why don't you study peace
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Study peace
Cause peace is what we need

You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will

[Chorus]

Just because your army
Gives you strength and might
Truth is gonna
win...wrong will
Never conquer right
Every man has the right to
Think and be free
You're like a spoiled brat
You want everything you see

You think you bombs
guns, and planes
Make you a big man
When you invade
Another man's land
Tryin' to make him be what
You want him be
Tryin' to make him do
What you want him to
Tryin' to make him say
What you want him to say
I know there's got to
Be a better way

You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will

[Chorus]
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[PureLove]

Here is something you should read, when you ask yourself who TS ( Timothy D. Simkin aka S.T.U.D.Y. ) is. In his newsletter from 2002 you can clearly see that he gravitates toward numerology. He also describes himself and what he feels his avocation is.

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We discussed about this issue several months ago. Maybe you should read that topic. And TS wrote about that page in one of his updates. No need to bring old stories here.

I do not know the topic you suggest.    

Why not? I thought that you had been reading the forum for such a long time. How did you miss that one especially when it comes to TS? I can offer you to check out the section we created for the beginner hoaxers and you can ask the admins where you can find the topics. Almost all of us know about this topic as we had talked about the issue several months ago and there's still no need to bring old ones here, especially with specific purposes! You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login And this one You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

[PureLove]

Hi SoldierofLove,

I was wondering if you could also share these on this part of the forum where we're talking about TS' old posts. I think that section would be better and more people would read these there.

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Thanks for the link, Uranus.

And here is other information from the thread you reference on MJHD.  SD, I hope you don't mind me linking to your thorough research, please let us know if any of the info has changed since you first posted this on the other site:


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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. revealed
by Serenitys_Dream » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:02 pm

Okay so I went to Tim Simkins website at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
and I have read the links there.


xxxx wrote:
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An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself

This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.


xxxx wrote:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).

This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.


xxxx wrote:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.

This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.


xxxx wrote:
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Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!

This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.


xxxx wrote:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.

I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.

Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.

My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.

I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. There is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.


TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:


For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.

Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.

However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.

What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.

I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.

Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.

And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?

Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.Last edited by Serenitys_Dream on Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total. Serenitys_Dream
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by Anna.K » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm

Serenitys_Dream wrote:
Okay so I went to Tim Simkins website at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
and I have read the links there.


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An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself

This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.


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Are You: Response-Able? In other words, are you “ready always [able] to give an answer [response]” to
questions about what you believe? Even in secular education, a primary method of testing someone’s knowledge and understanding is through questions (and answers).

This pdf is explaining how to answers questions effectively about your beliefs regarding what you have learned through Bible study. How to effectively convey your beliefs to others, how to educate others of the meanings you have discovered through your study of the scriptures in the Bible.


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There’s little value examining specific truths, especially areas where there is a difference of belief—until we understand the basic principles that apply to all truths, and the basic principles involved in resolving differences of belief.

This pdf is again about addressing different beliefs, what is truth for each individual etc. All of this has to do with bible study and conveying what you have learned from your individual study to others.


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Especially from those who are teachers, the “not enough time” plea should never be heard! Are they too
busy teaching the “truth” (so-called), to find out if the teaching really is truth?!? As long as a teacher doesn’t
have enough time to answer the questions on a certain subject, he also doesn’t have enough time to teach that
subject! This principle holds true even in secular teachings—how much more so, in religious teachings!

This pdf is addressing issues of teaching about the Bible and conflicts one may have about accepting money for services etc. After reading these newsletters so far I am getting the feeling that Tim Simkins was teaching people how to effectively study the Bible and educate others. Teaching people how to be "Ministers", this does not seem to be a church itself or a cult but an educational tool to educate others about Bible study and become teachers/ministers.


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This final newsletter pdf is about how to create wedding videos and the advantages of having a wedding ceremony over getting married in a civil court. This again suggests that these newsletters are being directed towards Ministers and in an effort to help them teach about the bible and subjects important when one is educating a congregation.

I also went to the Response-Able website which is linked on the s-t-u-d-y.org page.
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This site is under construction but there is an essay written here.
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This essay is again the information from the newsletters plus a further elaboration on the subjects.

Also there has been no further newsletters since 2005 and the above website has not been completed after having been originally created during the time these newsletters were posted. It appears that this idea was not successful has been abandoned or something.

My impression from this is that Tim Simkins is promoting an Educational System, tools to help understand the bible and transmit what you believe to others. He also wanted to link up churches that were using this system, no matter the denomination of the congregation, as means of improving and working out unity issues.

I am not really understanding why everyone sees this as a cult. there is also no mention of NWO, Illuminati, conspiracy theories, Michael Jackson or anything else that indicates that this is Tim Simkins agenda at all and that he may be responsible for TIAI.


TS wrote:
Quoted from Update #6:


For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.

Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.

However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. See also Update 5a, section 5-2, comment about 5-5 redirect: a very similar tweet that was also from Jermaine {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9726}.

What I see here is that TS freely admits that they are aware of this website. It seems to me that they have read the site and are utilizing the same techniques that Tim Simkins has written about but not to educate us on the bible but instead the Hoax. This does not mean that TS is Tim Simkins, it simply means that they read the information on how to approach educating others on a subject and they liked it and are using it to transmit the Hoax information to us.

I do not see how any of what I have read on these web pages has proven that TS is fake. This thread has not debunked them in the least.

Also let us not forget that Marlon Jackson wrote STUDY peace in the funeral book.

And finally, has anyone even tried to contact Tim Simkins and asked him about the S.T.U.D.Y. program and if he has any involvement in TIAI, if they are so skeptical about the "TS" on MJHDI?

Isn't it possible that the TS on this forum chose the initials "TS" because they were utilizing Mr. Simkins ideas about education etc in regards to informing us about the hoax? I mean I use Serenitys Dream or SD on this forum as my name, yet it has nothing to do with my actual name.

The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
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by Serenitys_Dream » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:14 pm

Anna.K wrote:
The motto that both STUDY use (Tim Simkins and TIAI Study) is not Study Peace. It's Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself. Clearly, you have not read the page thoroughly
Actually you clearly have not read my post. The first PDF I linked says exactly that.

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An introduction to S.T.U.D.Y - Study To Understand Doctrines Yourself
This pdf of a newsletter and is an introduction to techniques to use when undertaking Bible study. To learn to understand bible scripture on your own without having someone else tell you what the scripture means.

doc·trine n.
1. A principle or body of principles presented for acceptance or belief, as by a religious, political, scientific, or philosophic group; dogma.
2. A rule or principle of law, especially when established by precedent.
3. A statement of official government policy, especially in foreign affairs and military strategy.
4. Something taught; a teaching.

And Marlon Jackson did write "S.T.U.D.Y. peace" in the funeral book. This can be read two ways as in a clue to TS who at that time was using the screen name S.T.U.D.Y. and then "peace" as an ending to his message (goodbye sort of thing) or it could be a suggestion to utilize these educational tools, on the study.org site, in a quest for peace.Serenitys_Dream
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by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:40 am

Credit to Glinda @MJHDI

Jackson 5 : Man Of War Lyrics
Chorus:
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Why don't you
Why don't you study peace
Man of war
Don't go to war no more
Study peace
Cause peace is what we need

You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will

[Chorus]

Just because your army
Gives you strength and might
Truth is gonna
win...wrong will
Never conquer right
Every man has the right to
Think and be free
You're like a spoiled brat
You want everything you see

You think you bombs
guns, and planes
Make you a big man
When you invade
Another man's land
Tryin' to make him be what
You want him be
Tryin' to make him do
What you want him to
Tryin' to make him say
What you want him to say
I know there's got to
Be a better way

You think your way
Is the best way for all
You don't know everything
You don't know it all
You got respect a man
For the way he feels
You can't make people do
Things against their will

[Chorus]
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