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And about Michael's numerology, may I add this spaceship picture which directly points to the "death" date. 25+06+2009=2040
Postby fordtocarr » Tue May 03, 2011 1:17 pmWell, a lot of intelligent talk on here now! But, I do have to defend us with the opinion of TS, in that...I AM NOT WANTING TO BE SPOON FED.That is nuts to me. He came into our investigating forum, a place us who love Michael and don't believe he died, came to congregate and commiserated and try to figure out and affirm he is alive. He came in authoritative. Even if he did not say "listen to me, I KNOW"..the implication is THERE!.Think how many others have come in and out of here and we want to know how they feel they have the KNOW. How those ones are getting the info they claim. PROVE YOURSELF. Back up what you say. But, with TS, there is so much "power" implied it's as though it's almost sacrilegious to even ask or doubt him. People get all crazy it you want proof of how he knows. LOOK at all the previous posts!!I'm just saying, don't spoon feed me then. Don't offer anything--unless you can back it up!! By saying you "get to move to the next level" implies that we are correct on something!! If we are...he should be able to back up HOW HE KNOWS THAT. Seriously. If it were someone else...ME for instance, saying "no...that's NOT correct". "You can't move on, TS is not right". You would tell me how I know. Show proof. But, we take it that it's facts that we reach now. And, seriously, what are these facts?Here, I'm NOT saying that I don't believe TS is in the know. I actually think he knows/or simply has a great since of reasoning. BUT...I also think he needs to qualify HOW and WHY. We demand as much of anyone else and ourselves. If you claim or act as though you lead TO answers, then respond as THOUGH you know which results are correct, you need so show HOW you can prove it.This is a HUGE point in our unity. This is a HUGE MAP in the roads we take on this entire investigating process. If someone comes in here offering you a wrong turn would you want to know why you should deviate from the path you are taking or would you just go and perhaps waste you time and never get where you are going? NO. You would not. You may never gain anything.This is what I'm saying. Even if I never get another morsel of infor, if I DO, I want to KNOW I have a reliable source.ISN'T THIS WHAT MICHAEL WAS ABOUT??? He talked and sang about not reading/believing all you hear or read...and here we are. Putting faith and being lead without proof. ANY iota of proof to be lead would be sufficient. It don't matter that SOME of TS's facts have proven...some have not.It's simple. We want everyone to back up what they say. Especially someone who tells us WE ARE CORRECT!!! If you can say THAT you are saying you KNOW. If you know, say...do something to let us know you DO. Like everyone else.
Was TS saying that MJ's return depends on us, and our understanding of his hoax?
Bear in mind TS wrote this in December 2009! I wonder how relevant these old posts still are.
I feel sorry for TS! He takes a lot of flack, but I think he is sympathetic to our frustrations even though he doesn't/cannot give explanations.
Quote (selected)Was TS saying that MJ's return depends on us, and our understanding of his hoax?Yes,and this theory makes no sense for the FBI theory. FBi's activity is not the global spiritual awakening. FBI can be at most relate to a sting operation but even in this case what TS said makes no sense. It's one or another. When was he right? Then or now?Quote (selected)Bear in mind TS wrote this in December 2009! I wonder how relevant these old posts still are.His knowledge on the reason of the hoax must be still relevant. The reason of a hoax is before a hoax. Is it a spiritual awakening or is it a cold FBI operation? If MJ's return depends on us , how can we influence a sting operation? So there's got to be one reason or another, both are nonsense.
WHO is WHAT expecting from you (to do) Be careful! God bless.
finally: is this hoax a prank, or a Thriller II reality movie, or an ARG, or a sting operation, or a Vendetta, or an NWO/EOW warning, or a wake-up call to the gullible public (don't believe everything in the media), etc--which is it? And the answer is: all of the above! It is something that people have never seen before, at least not the combination of these things and on this scale."
Ts isn't offering anything as far as theories, we are. TS refers to theories already in existence, and that goes for the FBI theory as well. TS also sometimes supports false theories to encourage their debunking. TS isn't uncovering the truth, we are.
Instead of trying to debunk each other with no ending (because we don't know who's right or wrong anyway) we 'd better do the opposite and keep an eye on EVERY possibility.
Quote from: "heartphantom"Instead of trying to debunk each other with no ending (because we don't know who's right or wrong anyway) we 'd better do the opposite and keep an eye on EVERY possibility. Yup, very true! That's what I do. I have my own ideas about things, but they are only ideas, I have no proof, so I keep all the other theories filed away in little boxes in my brain, for future reference if needed!
Quote from: "bec"Ts isn't offering anything as far as theories, we are. TS refers to theories already in existence, and that goes for the FBI theory as well. TS also sometimes supports false theories to encourage their debunking. TS isn't uncovering the truth, we are.So, if TS never mentioned about the FBI and the Sting Operation we were going to find them out? I don't think so. We thought about the FBI possibility but never digged too much about it or never thought of the Sting Operation. These theories were not existed on the forum before TS told it to us. Like we never thought about the leaf pattern inside the ambulance. That one came from TS as well.
