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Quote from: "Tarja"Are you sure TS told the Jacksons to post some twitt? Do you believe his word just because? What if the Jacksons posted that twitt and TS claims it's because he told them to do so? Who regards this possibility?Or a second possibility: If one of the Jacksons' twitts contains a word that we use: believe, revealed, truth, ect. this would mean that TS told them to write that word in order to see TS is legit? Sorry but those words are overused in any language.TS never claimed he told the Jacksons to post anything. Please get the story straight and don't twist words. I understand that you're frustrated but twisting of the facts is not helpful on or for either side.Please refer to: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to review a series of events that provide legitimacy to TS. This is just one example that I can find quickly.
Are you sure TS told the Jacksons to post some twitt? Do you believe his word just because? What if the Jacksons posted that twitt and TS claims it's because he told them to do so? Who regards this possibility?Or a second possibility: If one of the Jacksons' twitts contains a word that we use: believe, revealed, truth, ect. this would mean that TS told them to write that word in order to see TS is legit? Sorry but those words are overused in any language.
Quote from: "bec"Quote from: "Tarja"Are you sure TS told the Jacksons to post some twitt? Do you believe his word just because? What if the Jacksons posted that twitt and TS claims it's because he told them to do so? Who regards this possibility?Or a second possibility: If one of the Jacksons' twitts contains a word that we use: believe, revealed, truth, ect. this would mean that TS told them to write that word in order to see TS is legit? Sorry but those words are overused in any language.TS never claimed he told the Jacksons to post anything. Please get the story straight and don't twist words. I understand that you're frustrated but twisting of the facts is not helpful on or for either side.Please refer to: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to review a series of events that provide legitimacy to TS. This is just one example that I can find quickly.Well, that tweet is not on the main page anymore... Marlon tweeted a lot of non-sense tweets, and if it is a proof why don't they delete tweets again to let it reappears...?
None of us know who any of us really are here so ANY of us could be the enemy, that's why I don't put all my faith in one person's beliefs no matter what their standing. They don't call me trustno1 for nothing!!
Quote from: "Puff"Quote from: "bec"Quote from: "Tarja"Are you sure TS told the Jacksons to post some twitt? Do you believe his word just because? What if the Jacksons posted that twitt and TS claims it's because he told them to do so? Who regards this possibility?Or a second possibility: If one of the Jacksons' twitts contains a word that we use: believe, revealed, truth, ect. this would mean that TS told them to write that word in order to see TS is legit? Sorry but those words are overused in any language.TS never claimed he told the Jacksons to post anything. Please get the story straight and don't twist words. I understand that you're frustrated but twisting of the facts is not helpful on or for either side.Please refer to: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to review a series of events that provide legitimacy to TS. This is just one example that I can find quickly.Well, that tweet is not on the main page anymore... Marlon tweeted a lot of non-sense tweets, and if it is a proof why don't they delete tweets again to let it reappears...?I don't know. Maybe because it did it's job and the point is to be cryptic. Maybe to make it more complicated and obscure like everything else. Fleeting, elusive proof is all we get in this hoax. It's a think for yourself hoax, not a follow the rules hoax.Again, if TS gave solid, undeniable proof, the hoax would be over.So the answer to why is exactly that: because the hoax isn't over yet.
Quote from: "bec"Quote from: "Puff"Quote from: "bec"Quote from: "Tarja"Are you sure TS told the Jacksons to post some twitt? Do you believe his word just because? What if the Jacksons posted that twitt and TS claims it's because he told them to do so? Who regards this possibility?Or a second possibility: If one of the Jacksons' twitts contains a word that we use: believe, revealed, truth, ect. this would mean that TS told them to write that word in order to see TS is legit? Sorry but those words are overused in any language.TS never claimed he told the Jacksons to post anything. Please get the story straight and don't twist words. I understand that you're frustrated but twisting of the facts is not helpful on or for either side.Please refer to: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to review a series of events that provide legitimacy to TS. This is just one example that I can find quickly.Well, that tweet is not on the main page anymore... Marlon tweeted a lot of non-sense tweets, and if it is a proof why don't they delete tweets again to let it reappears...?I don't know. Maybe because it did it's job and the point is to be cryptic. Maybe to make it more complicated and obscure like everything else. Fleeting, elusive proof is all we get in this hoax. It's a think for yourself hoax, not a follow the rules hoax.Again, if TS gave solid, undeniable proof, the hoax would be over.So the answer to why is exactly that: because the hoax isn't over yet.Oh, so now all of a sudden TS did not give solid, undeniable proof..? I think it's time people start making up their mind, because you are contradicting yourself...
TS gave complicated, obscure proof but nothing you can hold up to an average person on the street and blurt out in a single sentence sound byte to say: "I have PROOF MJ is alive!!" and that's a curiosity we have been mulling over for a year. I've also said pretty much exactly that many times before. The proof isn't neatly prepackaged and single serving portioned for ease of delivery and consumption... at all. In my opinion, that's the point. If that kind of proof was provided, it would cause the hoax to be over because belief would become undeniable and the chain reaction would break the whole thing wide open. It's obviously not that time yet. I say obviously because we are still here debating this very subject.Puff, you don't have to believe but you're trying to debate me into a corner and it won't work.I believe TS is MJ. TS has influence over the family, Sony, TMZ, AND the Estate. What other person or entity has influence, or could have influence in all of these areas? It makes logical sense that TS is MJ... or "MJ", as in speaking (posting) directly for him.TS has already addressed these points, and debated them himself, and there are no holes in the argument. You couldn't debunk it, no one could. No one has to date. I'm open minded, and I'll listen to a good argument, I just haven't seen one surface yet. That doesn't mean one won't, but until then, I believe, in my opinion, that TS is MJ (or equivalent).
Quote from: "Gema"I think that for the peace of mind of everyone TS must face this controversy and calm down the masses.I don't think that TS will answer because people say that they think for themselves so they don't need TS' answer on this. Plus something is about to happen on the 14th about this case. If I was TS and that there is no special redirect planned as per the hoax I would redirect to the Bible, some insightful verses will not harm. Well I'm off for today we'll see what tomorrow brings God willing. I love you all guys really. Blessings. And God bless you TS.
I think that for the peace of mind of everyone TS must face this controversy and calm down the masses.
And I hate to break the news but this is who TS is and who Michael is ...Believers in Jesus Christ and his never ending, never failing word, plain and simple and very direct and yes with no disrespect to those who don't believe. That is why God gave us choice! To believe or not to believe.
I will most likely get slammed for saying this but like Michael I have rhinoserous skin, and I am not ashamed of what I know to be truth. This very thing with the bible redirects is what is causing dislike for TS. And I have to say every verse that he/she has posted is not metaphorically inclined. For example in TIAI revealed Part 7 R40 which speaks of putting on the whole armor of God. That whole piece has no metaphoric reference. It straight up says what must happen in order to survive what is coming on the earth. With so many this enlightenment is unpopular because they choose to not believe in anything tangible that has to do with God or Jesus Christ. Everyone likes to put a religious lable on it to make it distasteful. And I hate to break the news but this is who TS is and who Michael is ...Believers in Jesus Christ and his never ending, never failing word, plain and simple and very direct and yes with no disrespect to those who don't believe. That is why God gave us choice! To believe or not to believe.
Quote from: "navibl" And I hate to break the news but this is who TS is and who Michael is ...Believers in Jesus Christ and his never ending, never failing word, plain and simple and very direct and yes with no disrespect to those who don't believe. That is why God gave us choice! To believe or not to believe.No offence, but how do you KNOW how Michael is? Have you lived with him? meet him personally?You hate to break the news? So it's already a fact. No, it's just your theory.This is an OPINION and YOUR opinion. Does this mean you own the truth? No, I'm sorry. You are free to have your opinion and your own view about how Michael MIGHT be, but don't state your opinion as TRUTH, just because because you simply don't know him. I don't know him either, probably no one here does. No offence, but I couldn't help myself. As long as someone doesn't know him personally, all opinions remain opinions and own theories and visions about how he MIGHT be.
Quote from: "navibl"I will most likely get slammed for saying this but like Michael I have rhinoserous skin, and I am not ashamed of what I know to be truth. This very thing with the bible redirects is what is causing dislike for TS. And I have to say every verse that he/she has posted is not metaphorically inclined. For example in TIAI revealed Part 7 R40 which speaks of putting on the whole armor of God. That whole piece has no metaphoric reference. It straight up says what must happen in order to survive what is coming on the earth. With so many this enlightenment is unpopular because they choose to not believe in anything tangible that has to do with God or Jesus Christ. Everyone likes to put a religious lable on it to make it distasteful. And I hate to break the news but this is who TS is and who Michael is ...Believers in Jesus Christ and his never ending, never failing word, plain and simple and very direct and yes with no disrespect to those who don't believe. That is why God gave us choice! To believe or not to believe.Here's the R40 Bible quote you referred to above:Ephesians 6:12-13 (21st Century King James Version) 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.So this quote was AFTER the re-directs on conspiracy theories, the TII army pic, etc. When I had initially saw this re-direct (when it happened), my interpretation was that there are some evil people in positions of power - call them the 1llumin@ti or whoever you want - who are literal devil worshippers (look up Bohemian grove ritual on youtube if you want). And so by embracing God (goodness and love) we will be able to withstand this evil and even stop it. Michael believes in God - he's mentioned God and Jesus numerous times - and I think Michael knows the Bible very well and has probably drawn a lot of inspiration from it. So to me, the re-directs to Bible quotes fit in with the whole hoax being an actual hoax by Michael. Non-religious people may not like the Bible references but in order to try and understand all the parts of the hoax, it should be understood where Michael is coming from and what he's trying to tell us. Michael's actions throughout his life have shown a strong connection with God and love - his charitable donations, his love of children, his genuine concern for his fellow man and for the Earth we live on. I don't understand why some would be turned off TIAI by the Bible quotes - to me, it fits right in perfectly because this is Michael's hoax and he will draw attention to what he feels is important.