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:ugeek: Regarding material possessions. How quickly they can be taken not only by God who gives and also takes it away but, by man himself. What do we live for? What reward do we want at the end of our lives when all is said and done and it is our final curtain call?You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginMatthew 6:19-24 (Amplified Bible)19 Do not gather and heap up and store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust and worm consume and destroy, and where thieves break through and steal.20 But gather and heap up and store for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust nor worm consume and destroy, and where thieves do not break through and steal;21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.22 The eye is the lamp of the body. So if your eye is sound, your entire body will be full of light.23 But if your eye is unsound, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the very light in you [your conscience] is darkened, how dense is that darkness!24 No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stand by and be devoted to the one and despise and be against the other. You cannot serve God and mammon (deceitful riches, money, possessions, or whatever is trusted in).This scripture below teaches us that for EVERYONE who keeps asking you will receive. For the people who don't want to consider the spiritual side even for them if they keep on asking eventually they will receive what it is they are seeking.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginMatthew 7:8 (Amplified Bible)8 For everyone who keeps on asking receives; and he who keeps on seeking finds; and to him who keeps on knocking, [the door] will be opened.Everyone is offered the opportunity to walk through the narrow gate. It is ultimately your choice whether to accept the gift God is presenting to us. It is never a force thing when it comes to God and his Love for his creations.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginMatthew 7:13-14 (Amplified Bible)13 Enter through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and spacious and broad is the way that leads away to destruction, and many are those who are entering through it.14 But the gate is narrow (contracted by pressure) and the way is straitened and compressed that leads away to life, and few are those who find it.God Loves his creations unconditionally. There isn't always gonna be a happy fuzzy feeling in life. There are consequences for our actions. Punishment isn't just in the form here on earth by man but, also punishment from God regarding how we choose to live our lifes. If we steal and we are caught man has a law that comes from God's word. The punishment on earth from man is usually a fine of something. It could be jail sometimes, it is no different when it comes to us being punished or disciplined by God when we do wrong. He is our Father and as our Father he is right in punishing/disciplining us.Does a human man and woman punish their children? Do you still love your child regardless of what the child has done? It is no different. In some cases it won't actually be God's direct hand in the punishment or trials that we must go through. God will allow us to be punished by other sources. God will use the enemy to punish us, tempt us, to make our character/spirit stronger.[youtube:facle7z0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_0YyLOpP8o[/youtube:facle7z0]Peace
What do we live for? What reward do we want at the end of our lives when all is said and done and it is our final curtain call?
Talking about what I said today: mindcontrol through religious procedures. It's the proof that I was right. It is the typical way of taking the things into people if they are aware their theories don't catch as many people as they want. I simply don't agree with the brainwashing the Bible still does on people and how people still guide themselves after it. And because TS in almost all his redirects gives quotes from the Bible it implies: read the Bible or stick out of this. And I don't think Michael wants everyone to be numbed by the Bible and either I think he discriminates those who don't believe in it. Messages should be sent for everyone not just for a part of the comunity. Michael's message is unity and not discrimination. He never showed any sign of leading people into believing in the Bible or any other religious book, either he discredited those with different beliefs.Such way of believing and such way of regarding the God fact takes away half of people's own personality. they are not able to think for themselves because God already said what is good and what is bad, what they should or shouldn't do. people become numb. This is the exact word in my opinion: numbI want to understand everything regarding this hoax and I do not accept the theory: read the Bible or just stick out of it. It is not what Michael stands for, it is not in his nature. And the bad feeling that TS gives me because of this increases since 5-6 months ago
Quote from: "Tarja"I feel like everything has drifted away from Michael and it all became a religious thing, with almost daily redirects to the Bible. And because people want to get to the bottom of it all, they read it today, read it tomorrow and they'll end up without even noticing thet they've read the whole Bible. people start to develop the situation exposed in these quotes and almost don't notice how far away from the subject they go. The subject is MICHAEL and the main important thing. Not the Bible, nor Satan nor God. And the answer in the end is what? Nothing. Just the analysis of another Bible quote.It's everyone's decision if they want to read the Bible or not and forcing people into it won't lead to anything. It all became all about religion and nothing about Michael. I don't say the Bible is good or bad, I just don't read either believe in it. Is that if those who don't read or believe the Bible have no rights to have normal answers? I don't find any answer in those quotes and either I find any connections.The Bible references are DIRECTLY relating to Michael Joe Jackson!! And what he has and is doing. Anyone who truly has studied and understands him, knows that he studies his bible everyday. The bible is not a book of impressive fairytale stories. If so, it would not transcend time. It is the oldest history book on the face of the earth. But the history it conveys is full of prophesy for today. No I am NOT orthodox in any of my thinking; I simply take the bible for face value, period. Eveyone like to put lables on things.If you listen to Michael and understand the messages in ALL his music, you will understand that he believes in the end of the age as we know it. His having left the public eye has reason on so many levels. What is being done here is one of them. Michael said God gave him the music RIGHT??? Well if you can understand the messages in his lyrics you will see that he believes in bible prophesy. He has pointed to it all along. So the bible is in fact very relevant in what is talking place in Michael’s life right now. And is the message that he is trying his best to turn Mans attention to.No Michael never stood in a church and preached, but he DID teach by the way he lives his life!!! What does one think LOVE is? To truly understand the meaning of love and to exercise LOVE you have to understand WHO IS LOVE. Love is not an action word, it a noun, a state of exsistance. When you live in LOVE you produce the fruit of LOVE by your actions. This is spoken of throughout the bible.I really dislike the word Hoax because it represents trying to fool someone. Michael did none of this for purposes of fooling people. Michael did this to save his life and hopefully millions along with him. However Michael is not religious he is in fact VERY spiritual. He is indeed a Christian. People confuse Christianity with religion. Religion is situational, Christianity is relational. They should never be confused one with the other. Christianity is having a direct relationship with the creator of the universe, to be like Christ just as Michael said he wanted to be, something that all religions do not provide.So when directing to the bible we are in direct line with Michael’s heart and his purpose and what he is doing to expose the enemy SATAN. Who do you suppose wanted Michael dead? Not just someone who was bored and had nothing to do, but SATAN because Michael refused to give in to him. I really hate to say this but ones lack of belief does not change what was , is and is to come. The only problem with unbelief, is that one is caught totally unaware of what is taking place in front their eyes.It is like standing on a train track staring dead ahead at a train coming at you and saying I don’t believe in trains. It doesn’t change the fact that in a matter of seconds you will be wiped out by the thing!! So for unbelievers I would say, think of it as someone offering you the winning numbers to the lottery for free. You can’t be sure they are the right numbers but wouldn’t you rather take them with the chance they are wrong than not take them and they be right?? What harm is taking them done to you either way. Eternal life with our loving heavenly father and all that he has to give us, mainly his LOVE seems like a very good prize to me!!Unfortunately man has taken God’s direct word. “the bible” and has given it so many interpretations no one knows what in fact to believe anymore. So some chose not to believe anything. When in doubt ignore! It is all very plain and laid out for us very directly. There is Good, who is Good? There is evil, who is evil? Those who believe in nothing by default are drawn into evil because in the absence of no thought, Satan has a place to play, because he does roam the earth seeking whom he may devour regardless of belief in him or not.What do you suppose Michael meant when he said we have four years to get it right or else it is irreversible the damage we have done. Do you really think that Michael was saying we can correct the damage that has been done to the planet over decades in four years??? Let those who hath ears hear! IT REALLY IS ALL FOR LOVE!!!! And I love each and every one of you regardless of what you believe!! We are all God’s children regardless of belief in him or not!!
I feel like everything has drifted away from Michael and it all became a religious thing, with almost daily redirects to the Bible. And because people want to get to the bottom of it all, they read it today, read it tomorrow and they'll end up without even noticing thet they've read the whole Bible. people start to develop the situation exposed in these quotes and almost don't notice how far away from the subject they go. The subject is MICHAEL and the main important thing. Not the Bible, nor Satan nor God. And the answer in the end is what? Nothing. Just the analysis of another Bible quote.It's everyone's decision if they want to read the Bible or not and forcing people into it won't lead to anything. It all became all about religion and nothing about Michael. I don't say the Bible is good or bad, I just don't read either believe in it. Is that if those who don't read or believe the Bible have no rights to have normal answers? I don't find any answer in those quotes and either I find any connections.
Gilda said "put the blame on Mame" and the blame should be put on her.
@curlsI will answer to you about why I read in TIAI thread, but i already said- I come and read because I just want to find answers I don't have, like anyone else here. That's why, and as everyone else I have the right to understand the situation and if I go and read in the thread it's because of this. But everytime I see such redirects it simply makes me feel like I am not fit to be part of it. Everyone is in searching of answers, understanding of the situation in order to get to the bottom of the things, and probably at this point in time, after 17 months, I hung myself on whatever I can. It is very hard because I feel like either I get into this or I am out, and the hoax should be for everyone to get closure. You know what I mean? I want to read, I do this all the time.But why does it have to come in a shape that some of us don't get into? doesn't it have to be for everyone? It's not anxiety, just feeling out of the bucket. There are people who dismiss without willing to understand, and there are people (like I am ) who read, willing to help and understand this all, but not getting closure.
Quote from: "_Anna_"@curlsI will answer to you about why I read in TIAI thread, but i already said- I come and read because I just want to find answers I don't have, like anyone else here. That's why, and as everyone else I have the right to understand the situation and if I go and read in the thread it's because of this. But everytime I see such redirects it simply makes me feel like I am not fit to be part of it. Everyone is in searching of answers, understanding of the situation in order to get to the bottom of the things, and probably at this point in time, after 17 months, I hung myself on whatever I can. It is very hard because I feel like either I get into this or I am out, and the hoax should be for everyone to get closure. You know what I mean? I want to read, I do this all the time.But why does it have to come in a shape that some of us don't get into? doesn't it have to be for everyone? It's not anxiety, just feeling out of the bucket. There are people who dismiss without willing to understand, and there are people (like I am ) who read, willing to help and understand this all, but not getting closure.And what if the Bible is also Michael's message?
I will put it this way: if God can make things happen and is managing life's situations, then why did Michael have to suffer like that? Why did he have to be humiliated, ridiculed and have his heart thrown in the dirt when he is innocent? Since the very beginning, why did he have to suffer like that, what did he ever do wrong to have God put such weight on his shoulders?
Quote from: "Sarahli"And what if the Bible is also Michael's message?It could be, I don't know, only he knows.. But now, do you think Michael would try to express himself through the Bible? why would he try to push his beliefs on people?
And what if the Bible is also Michael's message?
Re: Recruiting Soldiers for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.by Im_convincedmjalive » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:41 am Dear M.J./ T.S./ Study (the world): In following your (MJ) lessons and outlines of revelations in process and order, I am going to try my best to put down and express each and every relevant lessons I have learned and why, how they relate to me and the world.Note: I understand this section to be for the topic of army of L.O.V.E. and it will reflect on this subject with extra info.Testimonies:1: Testimonies are important as a teaching tool and to show relevance of the power in belief of a higher power in control of our lives. The power of having faith and trusting in something other than our own will and that a power greater than ourselves has the right plan for our lives if only we will listen.It is no accident and or coincidence that you (MJ) were chosen by God to be a great teacher, messenger for the world to hear the very ” IMPORTANT” things of our time to be addressed. The influence that you possess due in part because of your status as “ The king of Pop” can and has/ will continue to move people in the right direction of learning.In keeping with the theme of testimonies here is mine in a short version. I offer this to the world to be used as a lesson for anyone who reads this.I have suffered many trials and tribulations at the hands of abusers. I now know that it wasn’t their fault but it was the evil spiritual influence on those who wronged me. I was beaten by my father at a very young age and it continued up until around the age of 15. I was adopted <(personal issue and demon for me) at 3 weeks old and I have 2 younger sisters who are my adopted parents biological children but, obviously I don’t share that bond. I, being the oldest had to be made an example of by my father. At the time I did not know the circumstances surrounding my father’s anger issues. I now know he was an alcoholic, and my parents marriage was falling apart. There were adultery affairs with other married people by both my dad and mom. That was a huge factor in why my father beat me. The fact that both my parents worked long hours and were not at home with us children also played a huge role in attitudes and upbringing.. Misunderstandings. The way my father was raised was reflected in action by how he punished me versus my sisters. I grew up the “black sheep” of the family. To keep this simple I can’t go into every detail, that would take a novel to write.My point in this testimony is:The impact of my childhood has stayed with me for years. I had to go on a journey of “self awareness” to understand why I did what I did as an adult. So begins the first part of my “Awakening!”On topic with the very important lessons I have learned from you MJ and your powerful statement of AIR.Also due to time constraints I have to try to keep this as simple as possible but, also try to relate the experience to what I have learned so far from your “statement.”Due to the nature of how important this is for the world and the relevance of time. I became more aware of the NWO, illuminati, mind control, elite, etc. at a very relevant time in history. Although I did not fully understand it at the time. Looking back on the date I now realize when and why I felt a urgent frenzy need to research and absorb as much information as possible starting on Jan. 18th 2010. MLK B-day. <Relevant! Which was long before I found this site and your revelations.2: NWO: I had been introduced to the subject of the NWO by a black man who was serving 70 years in prison back in 1998. He had sent me some copied information from a book about this subject. I read it and understood it but, I was not fully aware at the time of how important that information was. I do now! As with most people my life was a mess and full of personal demons that distracted me from fully absorbing the info.3: Media influence/mind control: Fast forward to 1993. Your (MJ) first accusations of child molestations. I am not the type of person who watched the news or paid much attention to what the media said about you and the issue. I was pregnant at that time with my daughter so I was distracted by that. I am now grateful for that due in part because I wasn’t influenced by said media to have a negative outlook upon you. I was aware of it but, did not believe the story being told or portrayed of you through the news. What a blessing for me to have been distracted by pregnancy to not fall victim of media mind control.Media mind control/ influence:Fast forward to 2005. Your second accusation. At this very important time in your life, I was again distracted by my own personal demons. Shortly after my 37 th b-day by roughly 3 days I had ruptured my lower colon. This caused my bowels to release a toxic poison into my system that was going to kill me for sure. Timing is everything. I felt a sharp pain but, brushed it off. After some convincing by my neighbor and the ill feeling I had I finally went to the ER. I was originally misdiagnosed by the ER dr. and was sent home. I have a time ticking bomb inside of me and I am unaware of it. I went through the next four days with poison filling my blood from the feces and was almost at death’s door when I could no longer take the pain.On May 15th 2005 I finally drove myself back to the ER and was then properly diagnosed. I was told that I needed emergency life saving surgeries or I would die. I was told that if I had waited one more day I would not have lived. I was told of the procedures that needed to be done and why. I was under the influence of pain medication but, I understood the nature of this conversation. I had no choice but, to say yes to life and allow the surgeon to perform the operations. I was alone in the hospital. All my family was out of town and I only had my faith in the Lord to save me. I prayed faithfully to the Lord to guide the surgeons hands to save me. I had to let go and trust in God. I knew that my time here wasn’t over. I had felt that for a long time that I hadn’t reached the point of being used for God’s divine purpose so I had to stay alive to figure out what God has in store for me.I underwent the first exploratory surgery on May 15th 2005 and was kept sedated and on a respiratory machine in a medical coma for 2 days for the 2 necessary surgeries. I knew I was going to wake up with a colostomy bag and was fully prepared for that knowing it needed to be done to save my life. For those who don’t know what a colostomy bag is: it is a bag that is placed on the front of your abdomen to catch the shit coming out of your body because my colon was separated and brought up to come out to the front for necessary repair and healing. The relevant part here is I had no more control. No control of my life or my bowels. I had to completely surrender. During my 2 week stay in the hospital I underwent one more surgery. So that is 3 total. This was also the time of your trial. 2005. Again for me, I was aware of it but, very distracted by my own health issues. I was heavily sedated by morphine drip and other medicines. I understand addiction from surgery to pain medication. Following my 2 week stay and 3 surgeries I had to learn how to adjust for 7 ½ months living with a shit bag. I woke up every day and heavily sedated myself to proceed on with my life. I had no control over my bowel functions. I had to let the natural process happen.Fast forward to Dec. 2005. I went in for my 4th surgery for repair and reversal of the colostomy. I am not 100% to this day but, I am alive. I had became addicted to prescription meds. for about 3 years. That is a very powerful demon to get rid of.4: Your call to serve in the army of L.O.V.E.My experience with my surgeries and the medical aspect of it has led me in a direction of wanting to do something in the health care field. Due to the timing and lack of time I have now narrowed it down to C.N.A. This is in part because of my experience with the nurses at the hospital and their valuable role they played. Also now because of Obama’s true health care reform and not the fake one he portrays on the media I now know it is very important for people to be there to stop the depopulation that is in motion from this Obama administration. I have learned of it and know that I fall into the category of the ones who will be first to go. I am a single mother, first strike. I do not contribute as of right now to the standard of society’s norms, strike 2. I have had medical issues in the past and could fall victim to the 5 year of medical attention needed and seen by Obama’s administration as necessary to get rid of me to save the health care costs.I also am aware of his plan to get rid of the disabled people, retarded, elderly, or frail population. By the way not my language of choice but is how it is stated.All very dear to my heart. I have a neighbor who is on SS disability. I have a retarded/ mentally and physically disabled uncle. I have a grandma who is in a Alzheimer’s facility. All very important to me!All on the list to go if Obama’s health care plan passes.In saying all that my pledge to your (MJ) call to serve in the army of love. I have started with the woman in the mirror and I now need to start on my journey to become a C.N.A. (fast track) as my way of infiltrating the medical issues at hand.5: “Sweet home Alabama”I was at first hesitant to trust fully in who was writing to the board. T.S. I now know who after ready that story. That sealed the deal for me.I believe in the man who is singing to the world now. Not the guy on the jukebox.I am going to end this now. Not finished with this at all. There is way more to say and way more to do.God bless you MJ and love you more. My special glasses for seeing the truth are on!
Quote from: "navibl" Those who believe in nothing by default are drawn into evil because in the absence of no thought, Satan has a place to play, because he does roam the earth seeking whom he may devour regardless of belief in him or not.I strongly disagree with your quote above. I do not believe and I am not drawn into evil. I believe in human actions and care.I do not believe in any of them. God/Satan goes hand in hand. "Good" vs "evil".If I don´t believe in God how can I possible believe in Satan? Makes no sense.There is no such thing as Satan, is people with mental problems who creates hell on earth. Rewiring is essential, but from the core.QuoteIT REALLY IS ALL FOR LOVE!!!! And I love each and every one of you regardless of what you believe!! We are all God’s children regardless of belief in him or not!!By reading your post, it looks to me that LOVE would mean to convert? nah!People should love each other for the sake of it, not to win "heaven", not to be "safe" from evil or the end of the world. That´s pure conditioning and black mailing.I love you because I chose to do so, not because a book or faith or a concept tells me to do so. That´s slavery.
Those who believe in nothing by default are drawn into evil because in the absence of no thought, Satan has a place to play, because he does roam the earth seeking whom he may devour regardless of belief in him or not.
IT REALLY IS ALL FOR LOVE!!!! And I love each and every one of you regardless of what you believe!! We are all God’s children regardless of belief in him or not!!
Quote from: "Gema"Quote from: "navibl" Those who believe in nothing by default are drawn into evil because in the absence of no thought, Satan has a place to play, because he does roam the earth seeking whom he may devour regardless of belief in him or not.I strongly disagree with your quote above. I do not believe and I am not drawn into evil. I believe in human actions and care.I do not believe in any of them. God/Satan goes hand in hand. "Good" vs "evil".If I don´t believe in God how can I possible believe in Satan? Makes no sense.There is no such thing as Satan, is people with mental problems who creates hell on earth. Rewiring is essential, but from the core.QuoteIT REALLY IS ALL FOR LOVE!!!! And I love each and every one of you regardless of what you believe!! We are all God’s children regardless of belief in him or not!!By reading your post, it looks to me that LOVE would mean to convert? nah!People should love each other for the sake of it, not to win "heaven", not to be "safe" from evil or the end of the world. That´s pure conditioning and black mailing.I love you because I chose to do so, not because a book or faith or a concept tells me to do so. That´s slavery.hmmmm...OK so if there is not good or evil then there is no need for love either..what is love? I could hate you and do just as well right? or just simply ingnor the fact that you even exist, because don't believe in you!! Is there a judicidal system were you come from? I hope not, because if you break the law/evil you will go to prison regardless of believeing in it or not.
Quote from: "navibl" Those who believe in nothing by default are drawn into evil because in the absence of no thought, Satan has a place to play, because he does roam the earth seeking whom he may devour regardless of belief in him or not.When you believe in nothing what do you mean? Nothing as in God? I believe in evolution and nature. I am a kind person who tries my very best to help people. Am I drawn into Evil? I'm finding it difficult to understand maybe because of the language. If you could explain I would be very grateful. Thanks.