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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 03:18:42 AM
I answered to this because you asked where did I find that.
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Can you link something that shows that this phrase means what you have stated in your post please.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 03:21:25 AM
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I answered to this because you asked where did I find that.
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Can you link something that shows that this phrase means what you have stated in your post please.
But you originally directed your first post toward my post, which then prompted me to answer you.

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I was sure TMZ would report it soon. But I was waiting to a little opinion too, not just reporting it.

And "to go on a tear" is used correctly, it means something like "he burst on twitter" as far as I know.

So if you didn't want me to respond why make a comment about my posts?
You must realize that if you comment on a post or quote a post that chances are good you will receive a response from the person you are commenting to or quoting.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 03:26:28 AM
I'll end up here as I am interested in other things than just a word, but again, I will repeat myself, I stated my opinion because I wanted to, and not because I expected you to answer to me. I said because I didn't find anything wrong in it, and we should focus on the subject and not on the use of a word that is used correctly, and drift away from the main idea here.I don't have to say my opinion only if I expect an answer. I didn't ask. I said what I found. It wasn't a question so I didn't expect your answer.And I can make comments about any post. I am free to, don't you think? we all are.

I finish here, the discussion itself it's pointless. I made a statement. Not a question.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 04:54:39 AM
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If Randy is so sure that this is not Michael singing theses songs, why hasn't he hired an independent  forensic audiologist to analyze the material?
Now would be the time, before the album is released. If they received confirmation that it wasn't Michael, they would have grounds to stop the album from being released with these songs on it. This would force Sony and the Estate to remove those songs and replace them with confirmed Michael tracks. Or is this really Michael singing these songs after all?

Good point, Serenity.  I find it interesting that in a Nov 10 tweet, Taj Jackson basically said that the album is not 100% Michael, yet all he hopes for is that Sony will remove the questionable tracks.  Then the very next day, in response to the ITV show with MacKenzie's comments, he tweets that he's going to take legal action if they don't make an on-air apology.  Which is the more important battle?

The family goes on and on about how this album is not all MJ.  Well, then, do something about it!  They need to start putting their money where their mouths are, so to speak; otherwise, this really is just all smoke and mirrors.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 05:33:58 AM
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"on a tear Slang showing a sudden burst of energy"
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I don't understand why this would be the main idea to focus on this article. People lose themselves too much in details that mean nothing. I myself want to know wether Randy or the family has any rights to sue SONY for fraud. Do they have the right? Or not?

Quote from: "_Anna_"
I'll end up here as I am interested in other things than just a word, but again, I will repeat myself, I stated my opinion because I wanted to, and not because I expected you to answer to me. I said because I didn't find anything wrong in it, and we should focus on the subject and not on the use of a word that is used correctly, and drift away from the main idea here.I don't have to say my opinion only if I expect an answer. I didn't ask. I said what I found. It wasn't a question so I didn't expect your answer.And I can make comments about any post. I am free to, don't you think? we all are.

I finish here, the discussion itself it's pointless. I made a statement. Not a question.

And it's Serenity's opinion that the word is important.  For so strongly advocating one's freedom to express, you are quick to judge the worthiness of others' opinions.  You may think the attention to the detail means nothing, but there are many here would disagree - as evidenced by the responses to many of SD's posts in this forum.

I don't understand the need to back somebody off who doesn't agree with your posts by stating you don't expect a response since you didn't ask a question.  This is a discussion board - no questions required.  As you've clearly said, you are just posting opinions.  So is Serenity...and now so am I.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 05:57:53 AM
TMZ redirects to the word of God again:

 Corinthians 11:18 (GOD’S WORD Translation)


In the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church you split up into opposing groups. I believe some of what I hear.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 06:05:35 AM
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TMZ redirects to the word of God again:

 Corinthians 11:18 (GOD’S WORD Translation)


In the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church you split up into opposing groups. I believe some of what I hear.

I don't understand what's this and  what  does this have to do with TMZ?
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 06:11:37 AM
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TMZ redirects to the word of God again:

 Corinthians 11:18 (GOD’S WORD Translation)


In the first place, I hear that when you gather as a church you split up into opposing groups. I believe some of what I hear.

I don't understand what's this and  what  does this have to do with TMZ?

We have found a pattern with the date that TMZ releases certain weird articles, and then relate to the bible, as TIAI redirects do this often.....The date of this article is 18th November...which breaks down to 11:18.  Then, we look up Chapter 11, verse 18, and 99% of the time, it fits in to what is being reported by TMZ, and their strange headlines.  With Love xoxo
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 06:14:13 AM
Hmm in my opinion, Randy either knows nothing of the hoax or he's there to make people think there is no hoax. Hmmm
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 06:16:27 AM
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We have found a pattern with the date that TMZ releases certain weird articles, and then relate to the bible, as TIAI redirects do this often.....The date of this article is 18th November...which breaks down to 11:18.  Then, we look up Chapter 11, verse 18, and 99% of the time, it fits in to what is being reported by TMZ, and their strange headlines.  With Love xoxo


Well, I came to know about that, I also saw a  video on this subject. Again, I do not believe in the Bible so for me all this is a very tough struggle. I feel like I am forced to read all these from the Bible when I never believed in it. I don't understand what happens that lately every single redirect is to the Bible. Who doesn't believe in the Bible or reads it won't believe or read it from now on either, so I don't  really like it, personally.  


I feel like everything has drifted away from Michael and it all became a  religious thing, with almost daily redirects to the Bible. And  because people want to get to the bottom of it all, they read it today, read it tomorrow and they'll end up without even noticing thet they've read the whole Bible. And the answer is what? Nothing.

It's everyone's decision if they want to read the Bible or not and forcing people into it won't lead to anything. It all became all about religion and nothing about Michael. I don't say the Bible is good or bad, I just don't read either believe in it.  Is that if those who don't read or believe the Bible have no rights to have answers? I don't find any answer in those quotes.
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 06:57:58 AM
Quote from: "Tarja"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
We have found a pattern with the date that TMZ releases certain weird articles, and then relate to the bible, as TIAI redirects do this often.....The date of this article is 18th November...which breaks down to 11:18.  Then, we look up Chapter 11, verse 18, and 99% of the time, it fits in to what is being reported by TMZ, and their strange headlines.  With Love xoxo


Well, I came to know about that, I also saw a  video on this subject. Again, I do not believe in the Bible so for me all this is a very tough struggle. I feel like I am forced to read all these from the Bible when I never believed in it. I don't understand what happens that lately every single redirect is to the Bible. Who doesn't believe in the Bible or reads it won't believe or read it from now on either, so I don't  really like it, personally.  


I feel like everything has drifted away from Michael and it all became a  religious thing, with almost daily redirects to the Bible. And  because people want to get to the bottom of it all, they read it today, read it tomorrow and they'll end up without even noticing thet they've read the whole Bible. And the answer is what? Nothing.

It's everyone's decision if they want to read the Bible or not and forcing people into it won't lead to anything. It all became all about religion and nothing about Michael. I don't say the Bible is good or bad, I just don't read either believe in it.  Is that if those who don't read or believe the Bible have no rights to have answers? I don't find any answer in those quotes.

Tarja, I had similar views to yours regarding the bible and it's place in all this. It took me a while but I eventually decided that this isn't my hoax, it's MJ's, and regardless of my beliefs, he does believe in the bible and it's a big part of who he is, so I can accept that he would want to include it in his hoax. I don't have to believe, but I can respect that he does, and it doesn't mean I don't have a voice and a say here.

I look on the bible references as interesting quotes, if nothing else. I'm not being forced into anything and I don't look for 'answers' in them. I'm keeping an open mind and watching and waiting - as I said before, it's not my hoax, so I can't control how it goes!
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 07:05:59 AM
Yes, Curls, I know exactly what you are saying and I know Michael has faith in God and I respect that no matter what, no matter if my belief is different.  The problem I have with all this is that I am somehow, because I want to find an answer to all this, forced to read those quotes. Yes, I can take them as Literature and most of the time this is how I take them in the attempt to be able to read them but I don't know if TS' intention is to have us all make our own opinion out of these or just feeding us unconsciously with those quotes. You understand me? This is my reaction against what I feel and smell like a mindocontrol - you read something you don't want to and you don't even realise when you have it all read just because you need an answer about what is Michael passing through, an answer to all this, a fact on which you can hold your opinions regarding a hoax
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 07:13:07 AM
Quote from: "Tarja"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
We have found a pattern with the date that TMZ releases certain weird articles, and then relate to the bible, as TIAI redirects do this often.....The date of this article is 18th November...which breaks down to 11:18.  Then, we look up Chapter 11, verse 18, and 99% of the time, it fits in to what is being reported by TMZ, and their strange headlines.  With Love xoxo


Well, I came to know about that, I also saw a  video on this subject. Again, I do not believe in the Bible so for me all this is a very tough struggle. I feel like I am forced to read all these from the Bible when I never believed in it. I don't understand what happens that lately every single redirect is to the Bible. Who doesn't believe in the Bible or reads it won't believe or read it from now on either, so I don't  really like it, personally.  


I feel like everything has drifted away from Michael and it all became a  religious thing, with almost daily redirects to the Bible. And  because people want to get to the bottom of it all, they read it today, read it tomorrow and they'll end up without even noticing thet they've read the whole Bible. And the answer is what? Nothing.

It's everyone's decision if they want to read the Bible or not and forcing people into it won't lead to anything. It all became all about religion and nothing about Michael. I don't say the Bible is good or bad, I just don't read either believe in it.  Is that if those who don't read or believe the Bible have no rights to have answers? I don't find any answer in those quotes.


Maybe it would be simpler for your to think of the "bible" as a guide or HIStory book, then it wont matter if you reealy believe in it, it is clear that for hoax purposes Michael believes in the bible and reads it daily so it is important to him,  and hence it has become a directory for the hoax.  I must admit I have never read the bible this deeply although I do believe in God.  If you view the bible as a historical relic it may be easier for you to read.

Blessings


 :)
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 07:55:20 AM
@Tarja I hear what you are saying re: being forced to read something you don't want to.  I have to caution you though, just because you read something, doesn't mean you have to believe it.

I've personally read scriptures from all kinds of holy books however I do not believe in all different religions.  Similarly, we are "fed" things every minute of the day and are being programmed regularly. We need to learn to think for ourselves.

When presented with information, critically analyze and decide if this is going to be adopted by yourself and your thoughts or not. No one can FORCE you to believe something.

So like others have said here, just take it as a piece of literature, look for the message, move on.  Don't get hung up on where the info is sourced from.  That would be like people ignoring MJs message because "it's MJ and he's wacko and I hope this message isn't trying to get us to like MJ".

Treat everything like a grocery store.  You can go up and down the isles, you can see all the products, you can read some labels, but only you choose what goes in the cart. :-)
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Re: Randy Jackson Goes Nuts Over Michael's Album
November 18, 2010, 08:51:10 AM
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MJonmind wrote:

So back to the main message, doesn't "going nuts" imply going crazy. So TMZ is saying that Randy's a little cuckoo, and out of his mind. Meaning the songs are going to be all Michael. I'm hoping!  Sort of a negative on a negative, makes a positive.

Who is crazy here, Randy or those who think there is any voice in this CD that is not Michael. Why not mention the possibility of a lawsuit? 8-)
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