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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 12, 2010, 10:30:29 PM
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They won't shut it down, lol.

This is by design too.

You realize that site is owned and run by someone connected with the Estate, right?

The fighting is on purpose. Mods are allowing it. Bans are temporary (stated). The fans are having their turn being punked right now. back prophesied this one year ago, as I interpret it.

This is one of the reactions Breaking News was designed to inspire... and one of the reasons Opis None was made available and the reason for HOW is was presented. Some true colors are being exposed and some are going to be taught a lesson. There seem to be influences on that forum that are playing roles. There appears to be a viral project going on that MJJC is a part of right now.

I think.... the non-believers are getting a wake up call.

Mm. That does make sense. Still, I feel that the fighting is unneccessary, but hopefully the non beLIEvers will get a clue soon...=] :P

It happened to us too...
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 12, 2010, 11:00:54 PM
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They won't shut it down, lol.

This is by design too.

You realize that site is owned and run by someone connected with the Estate, right?

The fighting is on purpose. Mods are allowing it. Bans are temporary (stated). The fans are having their turn being punked right now. back prophesied this one year ago, as I interpret it.

This is one of the reactions Breaking News was designed to inspire... and one of the reasons Opis None was made available and the reason for HOW is was presented. Some true colors are being exposed and some are going to be taught a lesson. There seem to be influences on that forum that are playing roles. There appears to be a viral project going on that MJJC is a part of right now.

I think.... the non-believers are getting a wake up call.

Mm. That does make sense. Still, I feel that the fighting is unneccessary, but hopefully the non beLIEvers will get a clue soon...=] :P

It happened to us too...

Yeah, that's true.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: "Stranger In Chi-town"
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They won't shut it down, lol.

This is by design too.

You realize that site is owned and run by someone connected with the Estate, right?

The fighting is on purpose. Mods are allowing it. Bans are temporary (stated). The fans are having their turn being punked right now. back prophesied this one year ago, as I interpret it.

This is one of the reactions Breaking News was designed to inspire... and one of the reasons Opis None was made available and the reason for HOW is was presented. Some true colors are being exposed and some are going to be taught a lesson. There seem to be influences on that forum that are playing roles. There appears to be a viral project going on that MJJC is a part of right now.

I think.... the non-believers are getting a wake up call.

Mm. That does make sense. Still, I feel that the fighting is unneccessary, but hopefully the non beLIEvers will get a clue soon...=] :P

It happened to us too...

Yeah, that's true.

Ah, I made a dumb statement, but yeah lol. xD :oops:  :lol:  :P
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 01:06:29 AM
Oh! well, I think in every forum there will be bickering. The only thing is I hate being bashed and bashing other  people because they do not have the same opinion as you. we should all learn to respect other people's opinion, and learn from it. Maybe that person has a point.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 01:25:23 AM
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I don't understand what is the issue in fact: between members who don't agree or because of Sony and what is happening?

The fans are fighting bitterly because the voice on Breaking News doesn't sound like MJ.

They are assuming Sony is rushing this album through to cash in on MJs name.

They think Sony is taking advantage of their loyalty as fans and destroying MJs legacy.

They are horribly disappointed in this "fake" MJ track because many of them have been waiting for 9 years for new MJ music and looked forward to this release with HUGE expectations.

Worst, they think they are being lied to, and that makes them think that Sony believes they are stupid.

It's just like what we went through. We are being told by "experts" and in "official statements" that MJ is dead when it's obvious BS and someone is lying.

They are beside themselves with anger and frustration and disappointment and "we can't let them get away with this/we must protect MJs legacy", feelings and they are lashing out on the forum. Anyone who says they believe it IS MJ's voice is subject to getting this anger and frustration and disappointment directed at them.

Then the Estate comes forward with their "official statement" and backs Sony saying it's 100% MJ... well... the whole place has erupted. It's quite a show if anyone cares to watch. I'm rooting for them to figure it out. Some are almost there. Gooooo non-believers!

They are being whipped into a frenzy.
I haven't gone there these days to throw an eye. Thanks.
Oh my....I am sorry for how they feel, after all it's a huge confusion and they probably feel like they are taken as complete idiots and they see everything shattering in front of their eyes.I am honestly sorry for how they feel, probably this is the moment when they said "this is it", let the war begin.

 I can see how the ones that DO believe it's Michael are being bashed and take all the anger at themselves. The fans have always acted as if they own the whole truth when in fact no one does, but Michael himself here.

I didn't think they were eating each other like that out there to such a point when they almost ban masses.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 02:13:22 AM
Yes it's bad. And I hate to say it but I think MJ is doing it on purpose. He's playing with them. He's going to teach them a lesson. Maybe some will ask the big question. Maybe that's the point. Make people so uncomfortable that they finally TRY something different, break out of the tidy reality they surround themselves with, and start asking the tough questions like; what constitutes proof, and how does that proof form the reality that we accept, and what else do we accept as truth that maybe isn't, and wasn't there some guy that told us just because it's in print doesn't make it factual?!? Who was that guy... oh right, it was Michael Jackson!

 :shock:

Well I hope some of them make it over to the other side.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 02:21:59 AM
But what I don't understand is WHY would he make them be fooled by the family an not by the media? That's what I don't understand.

It is supposed to be lied by the media not by the family. And so far media is saying it's Michael, also the proffesionals say it's Michael, only the family says it's not and they believe them. So here it's about family lies, not media lies. Is this the purpose? To doubt each and every word the family has said so far? The family lies. Media doesn't right now. See TMZ, Harvey says it's unquestionable Michael Jackson. The family says it's not.

The media has to be exposed as liars not the family.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 02:27:42 AM
Someone who thinks he's right will not ask questions.
The seed of doubt can only planted when someone does not know anymore whether he's right or not.
There are many questions still unasked.
Some need a higher fever to get well again.

It's all for L.O.V.E.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 02:34:54 AM
The family says one thing...Harvey says the other....I guess we"re old enough to think for ourselves.   They could both be right.  A little of Mike and a little of someone else. So who is right and who is wrong in that case.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 02:35:16 AM
Well, I think only La Toya has officially gone on the record. And if she said it doesn't sound like him then she's not lying. We don't really know that any of these family members have said anything unless they say it into a microphone on camera.

So in a sense, if the fam and the Estate and Sony are all in agreement, it's MJ but doesn't sound like MJ, then everything beyond that is a media embellishment.

The media twists and spreads it, or fabricates it, or prints rumors or from unsubstantiated sources.

Look for the loopholes.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 03:22:53 AM
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Well, I think only La Toya has officially gone on the record. And if she said it doesn't sound like him then she's not lying. [...]
The media twists and spreads it, or fabricates it, or prints rumors or from unsubstantiated sources.

Look for the loopholes.

It's not loopholes...
It's exactly knowing what you are talking about in a very sophisticated and thoughtful manner.

I said it before and I stick to it:
despite mothertongue native English speakers may have an advantage as to quantity of words they know and use, sometimes they are facing a disadvantage because they don't question how and in which context these words are being used.
A non-native speaker will look up the meanings of a word once in a while.

I call this mastership of figurative language and art.
Usually one would search for this in poetry and classic art but not in pop.
 ;)
Unveiling time.
Not only for the stereotypes of press rooms but also for the stereotypes in our head drawers.
I love this journey. I really do.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 03:54:24 AM
People already set this up

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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 04:04:20 AM
At least they are feeling some uneasyness.
I hope those being upset will not replace their current leader by a new one but will start becoming their own leader in their very precious life.
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 04:54:45 AM
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Subject:    For The Attention Of The MJJC Member Base
Date:    12 November 2010 1:29:46 PM PST

Dear Members

In light of the state of emergency here and from what I see as the total destruction of my MJ community I am now asking every member to report any form of arguing or hating on another member.

As of now instant 10 day bans for anyone caught destroying threads or caught arguing/hating on someone else due to their belief on this album.

You will not destroy MJJC just because you support the album or not.

You have beef with Sony GO TO THEIR SITE and cause havoc.

At this point I do not even care if I am left with a hand full of members by the end of next week.

Me and my team will prevail in saving years of our hard work to create one of the best MJ communities there are.

This is the first step in our state of emergency.

If it does not stop step two will be announced.

Regards

Team MJJC

Wow.....that is something else
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Re: Things are getting ugly at MJJC
November 13, 2010, 06:26:57 AM
"State of Emergency" by Papa Roach
This came to mind when I read the above...

There's a "movie" playing in my head
Bombs falling and children crying
The sunrise and the sky turns red
Load your guns tonight

There's a song playing down the hall
All alone there's an old man dying
I can't feel anything at all
Something isn't right

This is a state of emergency
I've been running from a tragedy
There's a battle raging in my head
"I don't wanna to be left for dead"

This is a state of emergency
Don't wanna be another casualty
There's a cemetery in my head
I don't wanna be left for dead, left for dead

There's a world standing in my way
Father said that I best stop trying
Stand down, it will be okay
You don't have to fight

There's a picture hanging on the wall
Of a memory that I'm denying
The sun sets and the angels fall
Something isn't right

This is a state of emergency
I've been running from a tragedy
There's a battle raging in my head
I don't wanna be left for dead

This is a state of emergency
Don't wanna be another casualty
There's a cemetery in my head
I don't wanna be left for dead

No, don't leave me here alone
I don't wanna make this hell my home
I would rather die than sell my soul
I would rather lie than let you go

There's a voice screaming in my head
Telling me that I'd best stop crying
Stand up, it will be okay
Load your guns tonight

This is a state of emergency
I've been running from a tragedy
There's a battle raging in my head
I don't wanna be left for dead

This is a state of emergency
Don't wanna be another casualty
There's a cemetery in my head
I don't wanna be left for dead

State of emergency
State of emergency
State of emergency
I don't wanna be left for dead
Left for dead, left for dead
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