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[MFFreedom]

Losing a child is the worst a mother can endure. I know because my niece died 3 years ago after a 26-year battle with brain cancer and her mother still cries every day, visits her grave often and finds it hard to talk about it. Never in those 3 years did she say that she was feeling great, the best she felt was when she had a good day and then she just felt okay. Even though she died of natural causes and she finally escaped the pain, it hurts her like nothing else can. Imagine how hard it would be if you think someone else is responsible for the death of your child. The family felt great pretty fast and that to me says that he never died (besides all the other weirdness, that alone should make people wonder) although I can see pain and anger as well, but not because he died, but because of what he had to go through in life.

I'm sorry to read about your neice. My heart and love go out to your neices' mother. Yes, I can relate to that. I've been mom now only for almost three years and ever since, when I see/hear of fates like that, no matter wether on TV or in real life, it really touches my heart. There are even moments when I choke when hearing something like that.
But it did NOT happen with Michael. And I NEVER for one second felt ANYthing like that coming from the Jackson family. A death gets to you (unless one is completely feeling-dead) no matter what, but the Jacksons are completely out of this world in that sense - just proving in my eyes, MJ has not died, either.

[Tumic Shason]

EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT IN THEIR OWN WAY, FOR SOME TO OVER COME THE PAIN THEY SMILE BUT HOLD THE TRUE FEELINGS IN, AND SOME JUST SHED TEARS RIGHT ON THE SPOT AND THEN THEIR ARE SOME(CELEBRITIES IN THIS CASE) WHO KNOW WHAT THE INTERVIEW WILL BE ABOUT SO THEY HAVE THE FAMILY GET TOGETHER AND MENTION THE PAST AND PRESENT AND START TEARING UP!
YOU CAN NOT COMPARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE!
I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE EXAMPLES BUT I CAN NOT!

[MJonmind]

The no-tears Jacksons are my number 1 proof. I'm glad they didn't turn on the taps if MJ's alive. Strong crying emotion is not that hard to fake so why didn't they put on a real wailing show. Paris was the most convincing at the Memorial.

I was just checking on youtube for acting crying, and discovered that bringing on a tear is much easier than the actual heart-wrenching emotional part of it. So maybe the family are deliberately not doing tears for us hoaxers to get it.
[youtube:2b70issb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JjjyyJ9qi8&feature=related[/youtube:2b70issb]

[Tumic Shason]

The no-tears Jacksons are my number 1 proof. I'm glad they didn't turn on the taps if MJ's alive. Strong crying emotion is not that hard to fake so why didn't they put on a real wailing show. Paris was the most convincing at the Memorial.

I was just checking on youtube for acting crying, and discovered that bringing on a tear is much easier than the actual heart-wrenching emotional part of it. So maybe the family are deliberately not doing tears for us hoaxers to get it.
[youtube:2v0nxcpi]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JjjyyJ9qi8&feature=related[/youtube:2v0nxcpi]

OH MY LORD!
ANYONE CAN DO THIS IF THEY ARE NOT BEING DISTRACTED, IT IS VERY EASY TO DO THIS, YOUR RIGHT!, BUT NOT WHEN SOMEONE IS SPEAKING TO YOU, IT TOOK THIS GUY 45 SECONDS TO DO SO!

[Snoopy71]

My heart goes out to everyone on here who has ever lost a loved one.  The pain of their absence is something you never quite get over and I hope you find some measure of peace and comfort in your own way. <3

I watched this interview yesterday and it ripped my heart out. I couldn't stop crying...it just kills me to see anyone in so much pain.  I don't know anything about any of the Osmonds, but it seems like they've had their fair share of tragedy and drama as a family.  Her grief was significant (as it would be for a mother losing a child) but I also think it was compounded by the fact she also recently ended a really bad marriage.  At the end of the show she did a very touching tribute to her son and she didn't get all the way through it the first time (I think the video images of him they showed while she was singing may have been the reason she kept breaking down)...it seems to have made it that much harder for her to remain composed (understandibly).

ONE THING I DID NOTICE....and this is just a "coincidental" observation...there may be a connection or not...but Marie Osmond had this "scrapbook of memories" that her son made(which I thought was a wonderful idea)....but it also made me think of the book Katherine had made (which Oprah was flipping through during their interview in the beginning).

Something about these "memory" books is nagging at me. Oprah said in the interview with Katherine that when she did the interview with Michael back in 1993, that he made the specific request NOT to have any teenage pictures included.  Now, I haven't seen Katherines book yet, but I'd be curious to know if there were any "teenage years" pictures included. The reason being is that if this "memory book" was a creation by his mother it would be more "personal". We all know the Opus that was put out carried a multitude of photo's of Michael during his life & career and is more "artistic" in nature....so a mother's memory book would surely be more personal and include things she loved about him---pre nose surgery and all (I hope that makes sense). It would seem that if Michael were really dead, she would include all of her photo's of him at every stage of his life...photo's of "her little boy" as it were, it wouldn't be "edited"( ;) )...unless "someone" asked her to do it that way. I hope someone gets what I'm getting at here. :?

If anyone has seen Katherine's book, please share your thoughts.... I'd be curious to know! :idea:

My heart truly hurts for Marie Osmond and family and I hope they find some measure comfort and peace through it all.

[MJ_ForeverandAlways]

Hello  :)

I'm wondering if Oprah aired this show so close after the interview with Momma Katherine to show the difference between the grieving Mothers? She's interviewed two different Moms now who have lost their sons, with two very different reactions. I know that everyone grieves differently, just wondering if this was done for a reason! Any thoughts?

LOVE, Hugs, & Blessings to All :)
Keep the FAITH!!
Michael...I LOVE You MORE!!

[paula-c]

Though the video is short, it is sufficient to see the sorrow and the Marie Osmond's sadness

[nWo]

I think the main difference is the cultures. Katherine Jackson does look visibly hurt. Maybe because Michael is dead or how he is going about the hoax, who knows. What I can compare this too is when my grandfather passed in 2005.

When we were able to see him in the hospital after his failed surgery for the first time after he died, my grandma showed very little emotion. Puerto Rican women are very strong and very good at hiding emotion. She would cry when she was by herself and would never let anyone know how she really felt. She would say "I'm fine" or "I'm good, really.".

The only time i saw her break down was when they were lowering his casket into the grave she just lost it. She said "I knew it was going to be the last time i saw him.".

...just something to think about. I try not to pass judgment on other when they have lost a loved one. Death is a very complicated thing for most people to handle.

[fordtocarr]

Even saying people grieve differently, do entire groups of family grieve the same??  Even a YOUNG child like Blanket???  Chews gum, not cries???  Do fathers stand in the drive way the next day and talk to people laughing and directing cars in photographers lens, or do they sit with their children and cry?  Or if not, just stay inside.  Do Mothers go shopping when they have assistants or children to do it?  Do siblings go into the home of their dead brother laying in the hospital still and get his pillow????  and post it notes on ideas?
Are there never a tear from them aside from the one from Paris which was invisible?  Even his close guards and cook and confidants all of them grieve the same as the family, which is not at all???  Now I tell you, I am a JW also, as Michael and Katherine...and the Bible teachings are truly comforting, but you would still CRY.  You would NOT write books and give interviews or rent a palace while your home is remodeled.  WHO are you to live like that???  And how is that scriptural?  She is not the "star", the earner of the money.  Really, all this still points to Michael calling the shots.  Fixing the family home, getting the other family out of it, them offering the condo to them(it IS Michael's condo!!!!  who's name is on that??)  It's clearer and clearer.  I just love that he's doing this and rejoice in his freedom and insight and blessing us with new music forever....................... while living in peace doing it.

[mumof3]

Poor Marie my heart goes put to her and her family her reaction is normal nothing about the jacksons reaction is normal as far as we have been shown

[paula-c]

fordtocarr wrote:

Even saying people grieve differently, do entire groups of family grieve the same?? Even a YOUNG child like Blanket??? Chews gum, not cries??? Do fathers stand in the drive way the next day and talk to people laughing and directing cars in photographers lens, or do they sit with their children and cry? Or if not, just stay inside. Do Mothers go shopping when they have assistants or children to do it? Do siblings go into the home of their dead brother laying in the hospital still and get his pillow???? and post it notes on ideas?
Are there never a tear from them aside from the one from Paris which was invisible? Even his close guards and cook and confidants all of them grieve the same as the family, which is not at all??? Now I tell you, I am a JW also, as Michael and Katherine...and the Bible teachings are truly comforting, but you would still CRY. You would NOT write books and give interviews or rent a palace while your home is remodeled. WHO are you to live like that??? And how is that scriptural? She is not the "star", the earner of the money. Really, all this still points to Michael calling the shots. Fixing the family home, getting the other family out of it, them offering the condo to them(it IS Michael's condo!!!! who's name is on that??) It's clearer and clearer. I just love that he's doing this and rejoice in his freedom and insight and blessing us with new music forever....................... while living in peace doing it.

Very good description, is what I always thought, lack of feeling pain the whole family, this is the first reason to believe that Michael did not die the day June 25, 2010 ;)