LISA MARIE PRESLEY ON OPRAH THIS WEEK!!!

[loveratheart4mj]

I do not appreciate the sarcasm here that I get 90 percent of the time. I simply state my opinion and get attacked. I never said anything about Michael running off and leaving ANY kids first off. You all must take me for a cruel bit*h which really hurts my feelings because I do not promote abandoning children. I never implied a Disney movie either. And good things do happen in real life and anyone who thinks they dont must be a negative depressed nim wit. Sorry to think positive and burst your little sobbing bubbles. Sorry to try and be helpful and talk to you people at all. You can go back to your disturbing bleak outlooks now. This sort of thing makes me wonder what the he** I even come here for because I see nothing but fighting and fussing day after day. Go ahead and warn me, flag me, throw me off the forum. I couldn't care less. Single me out! But just know I'm not the only one being attacked on this forum.

Hi Nefari, your posts are just as valid as anyone else's on here. You were not the only one suggesting that MJ and LMP could still be together - the way things are these days, anything could be possible, please do not be discouraged :)

Agreed!

My thoughts, we all agree that TS, TIAI, and TMZ are integral parts of this hoax, that they are some of the glue that holds everything together. Well, it was they who so strongly pushed Elvis and MJ, Lisa's sunflowers, his whole family being actors. We do know that Karen Faye has strongly come out since the "death" pushing for justice for MJ, how thin and sickly he was. Her final response sounds to me to be a mismatch of her other responses. All I know from the LMP site is that she and MJ had a long conversation on the phone in 2005, and that he still really wanted her and loved her. We all agree that it is MJ himself who is working behind the scenes directing this entire "movie" hoax, or he is truly dead and we are deceived to be pitied creatures, and it is the Illuminati, AEG, Sony that have gone to all the trouble of creating the intricasies of this hoax weaving together Michael's own heart and soul with it. No!!! A thousand times no, that just can not make sense. The sunflowers in Oprah's set are testimony to us that this is Michael arranging this, and allowing Lisa to be herself and Oprah to have her ratings and go out with a bang. But in the whole entertainment business collectively we probably don't know how in sinc they are planning a big spectacular gigantic "show" of the century with MJ at the helm. These are after all, the movers and shakers of the world, and this IS the man who runs things behind the curtain. :?  :D

Loved your commnets!! Thanks!

[mjssoulmate]

Just a couple of things I want to throw out there about the interview.  I thought Lisa was respectful and sincere.  I noticed the non eye contact with Oprah, that could just mean she is shy and doesn't like to be "out there", center of attention as she mentioned.  I liked the fact that she showed Michael in a positive light.  He had his moments, but she also had her moments.  It was important that Lisa admitted her mistakes.  Why it took this long to understand him.....Well at least  it happened.  The proposal - as stated we heard it was done over the phone.  So now he pulls out a 10 carat diamond AND I THINK HE GOT DOWN ON HIS KNEES to propose as well.  Sorry, but I think I would remember if a man got down on his knees to propose marriage to me.  Now maybe because she has been married a few times....I don't know.  I just know I would remember.  Finally the last conversation that they had in 2005, Michael  said he was afraid  someone was going to murder him for his catalog and estate.  Lisa said he gave her names, but she wouldn't mention them.  Why would a mother of four, admit on national television that she knows the names of the people that Michael suspected would try to kill him?  That's crazy, that would be putting Lisa and her family in danger. My thoughts on the interview, I am glad it happened.  It was done to clear the air.  But some comments just didn't make sense to me.  Take care, Love to All.

I agree with you.  It seems like a dangerous statement to make.  This was done with a purpose in mind.  I can't figure out what it is, but all the Jackson's have stated the same thing.  They all say they have names, and that Murray is just a fall guy.  Fall guy or not, he is still the one who allegedly killed Michael.  Why are they making excuses for him?

[loveratheart4mj]

what do you think about the white glove here? did anyone see it on the original casket?

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Just looking at this funeral picture with an open mind, the face simply looks somewhat weirdly tilt and not in line with the whole hairdo - especially along the parting (of the hair). Also, the proportion feels off. I feel the photoshopper  :lol: didn't really have an eye for the size of her face in comparison to the hairdo  :roll:   :lol:

My comment about the interview: what made my ears pop up was Lisa talking about 'injections that he needet to have' - a line she was repeating quite a few times. I was like "Huh?! You don't know what these injections were for?" Initially hearing it the first time it felt rehearsed, she just forgot to think out the details ... that's why she concluded with ... "just injections that he needed.  :?: ... and then she changed her seating position in a manner as if she thought 'Phew, THAT was close ... ' To me it just felt, as if she kind of felt pushed into a corner by Oprah and was glad, when O dropped the subject ... (half way anyways ... :roll: )

Regarding the background. I only watched it on YT as it was not aired here in Switzerland. The background, the backyard with the trees reminded me immediately of an animated computer movie. The green and the 'sun-light' seemed a bit too clear and too green. It's hard to discribe. Now I know the grass is REALLY green in England  :D but still, it looked too artificial to me.

Overall, I was always a bit distracted by her huge eyelashes and eye make-up  :lol:  :lol:

So, my 2 cents, Love

thank you for your thoughts  :) I agree with your observation that about Lisa's bodylanguage and the unprecise way she is talking about Michael's drug problem. As you have said, it's like if she has only a vague idea about she is supposed to talk about, as if she is following a prescripted story without having spent deeper thoughts on the details.

and about this casket picture, I have just noticed that the sort of white flower that Lisa is wearing attached on her dress was shopped into the picture, it is not there in the original bouquet.
This picture is soo fake and we are guided to notice that quite obviously (who could have missed that white flower on her chest?)[attachment=0:1csvxgos]flowers on casket.jpg[/attachment:1csvxgos]

Friends if that photo of Lisa by the casket is real then she is definitely a big player in this hoax too  L)>):>)

[loveratheart4mj]

I don't think them being married would be strange at all. And we were led to believe that her and Lockwood are together, led to believe that her and good ole Nick were together. Please please prove any of it is true. I'll never believe any of it. I think if LMP and Michael up and ran away together it would be the most romantic thing in history and I would have not one problem loving him as much as I always have. I'd be like way to go Michael, you got your woman now be happy sweetie.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your comment. That would be the most awesomest ever for sure!!!!!!! :D  :D  :D

[suspicious mind]

Here is a page with lots of pictures of LMP and her husband Michael Lockwood.
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lisa-marie-and-michael-lockwood/images/14169711/title/lmp-ml-forever-3-photo

Some photos of the twins, just precious.

i'm going there again  ;) even these pics give the impression of lisa being thinner even after the twins . and more viberant. maybe she has been under stress by all of this one way or another. even though ophra did say that they had had ocaasion to be in contact at a previous time they shouldn't have been wearing the same clothes. the same clothes ;)  where have we incountered that before ;) ?

it was interestig that when she mentioned picking him up from a certain doctor and mentioning injections to me implies klien. he is always talking about these injectables that he has been working with.around that time though would michael have been having anything of that nature done. ?

they also talked about him having trouble sleeping but no mention of him trying to do anything about it. i remember that having a problem being able to get sleep was supposed to have been how elvis got started having problems.
:oops: think i am babbleing again. sorry

[2 Bad]

" Overall, I was always a bit distracted by her huge eyelashes and eye make-up :lol: :lol: "

That distracted me too! Also squinting her eyes and looking up away from the camera, creepy :lol:
My sister would squint like that when we argued, like it was a mean look, drove me crazy!
When I argue you can see my eyes  :shock:
I can understand she was uncomfortable, I would have been, but I certainly would not have been so self centered and "Me!" about it.
I am sick at hearing drugs, drugs, drugs. This is all leading to the Dr. getting off easy, which plays with our theories and wrecks havoc with non-believers that have hate in their hearts. Weeding out the true followers?

[mjkate]

I know this is farfetched and maybe mentioned already. I got the feeling that Lisa Marie was speaking to Michael as opposed to the audience. She was maybe in on the hoax but hasn't been able to spend any time with him. I thought this mainly because she was talking about her love for him and now understanding his for her. That sounds like something she wants him to know not an audience of strangers. Also, the sunflowers sitting there was a nice touch but who were they meant for. I felt like they were meant to be for MJ to see. Like a peace offering. The same with the message about the fireplace in the library. Maybe that has even more meaning for the two of them - the engagement but who knows what else she could be referring to to...it could have a hidden message for him. She was getting lots off her chest but it would only be helpful to her if he was listening or she hoped he would be. If I think of myself in her shoes, there would be no way I would find it helpful to sit in front of the world with Oprah and talk about those private things unless this was the only way I could get a message to the person I wanted to hear. Michael stayed so private about his life and he would not have thought it was cool that she would do an interview like that - discussing his drug use and addiction - unless she was asked to for the hoax - AND she would get to clear the air with him...the whole interview seemed to be about either his drug use or her intoxicated love for him. Too much info for me but a perfect amount of info for him. I am not saying they are still together at all...it just sounded like she was aplogizing for not being there for him as a friend who cared deeply. Just my opinion - thanks for listening

[paula-c]

The friendship is also love ;)

[PinkTopaz]

Here is a page with lots of pictures of LMP and her husband Michael Lockwood.
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lisa-marie-and-michael-lockwood/images/14169711/title/lmp-ml-forever-3-photo

Some photos of the twins, just precious.

Exactly, i wish people would stop talking out of their asses and saying that Lisa an Michael are together, because they're obviously not. She maybe part of the hoax but that doesn't mean they're in wonderland making out :roll:

Oh, would you stop- it may not be the most realistic and we may not the same, but can't they post what they choose, I mean come on, it does sound nice-  (speaking of sisters, 2 Bad)one of mine was standing behind me just now and she said about the twin babies- "Cute, but wouldn't it be awesome if they had black hair and wide brown eyes?"

[starlight30]

Did anyone find it odd that LMP referred to MJ as a gnome. It was when they were talking when he couldn't sleep at night.

A gnome ( /noʊm/[1]) is a diminutive chthonic spirit in Renaissance magic and alchemy, first introduced by Paracelsus and later adopted by more recent authors including those of modern fantasy literature. Its characteristics have been reinterpreted to suit the needs of various story-tellers, but it is typically said to be a small, humanoid creature that lives underground.[2]

The name gnome has been used in the Fantasy genre, typically in a cunning role, e.g. as an inventor.[6]

In L. Frank Baum's Oz series, the Nomes (so spelled), especially their king, are the chief adversaries of the Oz people. Ruth Plumly Thompson, who continued the series after Baum's death, reverted to the traditional spelling.

In C. S. Lewis's The Chronicles of Narnia, gnomes, or "Earthmen" as they are sometimes called, live in the Underland, a series of subterranean caverns. Unlike the traditional, more humanlike gnomes, they can have a wide variety of physical features and skin colors. They are used as slaves by the Lady of the Green Kirtle.

J. R. R. Tolkien, in the legendarium surrounding his Elves, uses "Gnomes" as a name of the Noldor, the most gifted and technologically minded of his elvish races, in conscious exploitation of the similarity with gnomic; Gnomes is thus Tolkien's English loan-translation of Quenya Noldor, "those with knowledge". In The Father Christmas Letters, which Tolkien wrote for his children, Red Gnomes are helpful creatures who come from Norway to the North Pole to assist Father Christmas and his Elves in fighting the wicked Goblins.

[starlight30]

Did anyone find it odd that LMP referred to MJ as a gnome. It was when they were talking when he couldn't sleep at night.

A gnome ( /noʊm/[1]) is a diminutive chthonic spirit in Renaissance magic and alchemy, first introduced by Paracelsus and later adopted by more recent authors including those of modern fantasy literature. Its characteristics have been reinterpreted to suit the needs of various story-tellers, but it is typically said to be a small, humanoid creature that lives underground.[2]

The name gnome has been used in the Fantasy genre, typically in a cunning role, e.g. as an inventor.[6]

In L. Frank Baum's Oz series, the Nomes (so spelled), especially their king, are the chief adversaries of the Oz people. Ruth Plumly Thompson, who continued the series after Baum's death, reverted to the traditional spelling.

In C. S. Lewis's The Chronicles of Narnia, gnomes, or "Earthmen" as they are sometimes called, live in the Underland, a series of subterranean caverns. Unlike the traditional, more humanlike gnomes, they can have a wide variety of physical features and skin colors. They are used as slaves by the Lady of the Green Kirtle.

J. R. R. Tolkien, in the legendarium surrounding his Elves, uses "Gnomes" as a name of the Noldor, the most gifted and technologically minded of his elvish races, in conscious exploitation of the similarity with gnomic; Gnomes is thus Tolkien's English loan-translation of Quenya Noldor, "those with knowledge". In The Father Christmas Letters, which Tolkien wrote for his children, Red Gnomes are helpful creatures who come from Norway to the North Pole to assist Father Christmas and his Elves in fighting the wicked Goblins.

[MJonmind]

Something I noticed in all the pics of Lisa with M. Lockwood, there doesn't seem to be a lot of chemistry or affection between them. Maybe their marriage for her is more one of peace and serenity. Whereas when she was with Michael, observers including D. Trump thought they couldn't seem to keep their hands off each other, and constantly looked like they were crazily in love, kissing all the time. Photographers noted that they naturally intertwined their bodies. Well I don't see any passion in these pics. I think after Lisa's meltdown, she wanted a relationship that was a little more out of the public eye, and a man who never gave her any backtalk or grief, a yesman. MJ was no yesman, and I think they were a perfect match, 2 passionate firey people. But the public, her mother and the media didn't give them a chance. What marriage could withstand that? Just as after MJ and her divorce, and her going back to Danny Keough, MJ and her continued their romance out of the public eye. What makes you think this possibly easy-going M. Lockwood is also not accommodating Lisa keeping a little fire on the side. Her present to him might be 2 gorgeous little girls, a high living standard, some fame, but in trade for allowing her to have a side love interest. Debbie Rowe also was such a loving giving person, not minding at all, that though she had married MJ to give him the children, she knew his heart belonged to Lisa. She often said they had a non-traditional marriage. So Nefari, you may not necessarily be too far off. MJ realized and even said it, that if he married, it would have to be someone with money and equal fame, and that Lisa Marie was about the best and only match for him. What Michael wants he will not give up until he has. JMHO, who knows!

[nefari]

Thanks everyone. I'm not saying I'm right but I appreciate just being able to have a voice as others do. I don't have to be correct. I just want truth but I am the type of person that believes in "all things are possible" and "no stone unturned". Lockwood to me is as important as Murray in all of this and we should keep all eyes on both.

[liegi]

Nefari--good point.  They look like an odd couple.  Would there be any reason for LMP coming out and interviewing with Oprah now?  Do you think Oprah convinced her?

[paula-c]

This was what TS said in his last post:

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by TS » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:59 am

"Also, even though MJ and LMP are not married anymore: yet it is disrespectful to MJ (as well as LMP) to minimize the Elvis connection—even if there were NO other connections! Just a few days after the TIAI Update #6 on Elvis and MJ was posted, Jermaine spoke very highly of LMP and MJ {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r91T8jCl_EE}. Do you really think that MJ appreciates his "fans" opposing the Elvis connection??"