0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Not Alone
October 02, 2010, 02:28:57 PM
I too have been an observer of this site for many months and have only just decided to join.  As a normally sceptical person it would take quite a bit of convincing for me to believe in a hoax.  Even if that hoax involved the master showman himself.  I must admit after the initial shock of MJs passing (which hit me SO much harder than I could ever have predicted) and the tears which seemed to flow never-ending, the possibility that it could have been an elaborate stunt did cross my mind.  I quickly dismissed this as the desperate hope to believe that he is in fact still here, that we still live in a world where Michael Jackson is alive and well.  That we never lost him.

As time wore on though that niggling theory became much more and every piece of evidence and inconsistency and misdirection just added more weight to the possibility.  If anyone could do it or would do it, Michael could/would.  Maybe he had no choice.  I was among the legions who believed that he was so frail the 50 concerts would kill him, if he even managed to perform for all 50.  But then for months beforehand we were fed stories by the media of how ill he was.  Maybe the media themselves were being "fed" by MJs camp.  Playing them at their own game.  So much didn't and still doesn't add up yet the press were willing to ignore that and pay huge sums of cash to every parasite with lurid claims relating to MJ both during his life and after his "death".  

This would be the ultimate movie project, never to be bettered.  He would go down in history as THE singular most incredible entertainer and performer the world had ever seen.  To those who wonder how he could upset his fans so much in faking his death, I'd say the clues are everywhere and he knows the true fans will get the message.  The Jackson family have their roles to play and while they may not be the best actors (especially Joe who seems to be almost trying to advertise this as a hoax every time he's allowed on TV), their consistent inconsistensies and contradictions have to be deliberate.  If this death was faked and intended to be kept secret, they would all keep quiet for fear of slipping up.  So far all we've had are slip-ups. Then there's the questions over the ambulance photo, the 911 call, the TMZ source, the silent treatment from UCLA, Dave Dave on LKL and the mysterious Dr Murray...the list goes on and on.  The "burial" was shown on TV why?  We'd heard Katherine wanted it private.  Why put the family and MJs kids through a media circus?  The trees in the background didn't look real at all to me, like it was a flat screen showing a scenic background.  So I believe the theory about it being green-screened too.  And there's all the Liberian Girl photos.  Coincidence? Don't think so.

Finally as a lifelong MJ fan who was 7 when Thriller was released and is grateful to have experienced the phenomenon for myself and not through old videos and articles, I think not just the media but also we have to look at ourselves and ask why we allowed ourselves to be led by the scandal sheets?  I never believed any of the allegations but if you throw enough mud some of it is bound to stick.  He could never shake the doubts off as the media had set out to destroy his reputation and they largely succeeded.  By the era of Blood On the Dancefloor the hype had disappeared and the media led us to believe that he was past his best.  A lot of us didn't even give that or his later music a chance.  I barely noticed that Invincible had been released here in the UK, and as the media were saying it was nowhere near classic MJ, that he was a has-been, etc I blindly followed that opinion and didn't buy it.  It did well in Europe sure but what about his US fans?  US media had sunk it.  The first accusations of child abuse made him livid and distrustful of the press and law enforcement, the later accusations and court case all but finished him off.  I can't help but wonder if so many fans hadn't deserted him because they believed the lies, if Invincible had been huge worldwide, how different things might have been.  Sure the Arvizo thing would probably still have happened (probably) but if he hadn't felt the need to show people the man behind the myth maybe he wouldn't have hired Bashir and the whole thing wouldn't have snowballed.
Whatever the truth, many people now realise how the media did and does still shape public opinion and how people can be destroyed on a whim if it means profit.  MJ would want that message spread as far as possible and would want all the lies scrubbed from the history books.  It's up to us to make sure that happens.  Maybe then he'll come back...or at least give us a sign that his message got through.
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream.  And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.

*

trublu

Re: Not Alone
October 02, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
Hi trustno1 nice to meet you and thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Nice to see another truth seeker aboard!  :)
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Re: Not Alone
October 02, 2010, 05:48:12 PM
Welcome! =]
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions



You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (B. Howard Fans)
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (Martin Page Fans)

Re: Not Alone
October 02, 2010, 07:48:14 PM
Welcome!  Very well written and thoughtful, thorough post.  Thank you!
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Re: Not Alone
October 02, 2010, 09:13:09 PM
Greetings Trustno1 and a warm welcome all the way from the Bahamas.  Your post was so heartfelt and hit right to the core.  Let us continue showing Michael that we are here for him and we will always love and support him no  matter what.
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

*

2good2btrue

  • Hoaxer
  • View Profile
  • FORGIVENESS IS THE KEY TO YOUR HAPPINESS
  • 4210
Re: Not Alone
October 02, 2010, 09:44:52 PM
Welcome to the family......keep the faith. xoxo
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Re: Not Alone
October 03, 2010, 05:59:40 AM
Thanks guys for being so welcoming, feel like part of a family already! :D Love to you all.
Lou xxx
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream.  And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.

Re: Not Alone
October 03, 2010, 05:14:41 PM
Hope you have a great time. ;)
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

*

suspicious mind

Re: Not Alone
October 03, 2010, 07:58:56 PM
Quote from: "trustno1"
I too have been an observer of this site for many months and have only just decided to join.  As a normally sceptical person it would take quite a bit of convincing for me to believe in a hoax.  Even if that hoax involved the master showman himself.  I must admit after the initial shock of MJs passing (which hit me SO much harder than I could ever have predicted) and the tears which seemed to flow never-ending, the possibility that it could have been an elaborate stunt did cross my mind.  I quickly dismissed this as the desperate hope to believe that he is in fact still here, that we still live in a world where Michael Jackson is alive and well.  That we never lost him.

As time wore on though that niggling theory became much more and every piece of evidence and inconsistency and misdirection just added more weight to the possibility.  If anyone could do it or would do it, Michael could/would.  Maybe he had no choice.  I was among the legions who believed that he was so frail the 50 concerts would kill him, if he even managed to perform for all 50.  But then for months beforehand we were fed stories by the media of how ill he was.  Maybe the media themselves were being "fed" by MJs camp.  Playing them at their own game.  So much didn't and still doesn't add up yet the press were willing to ignore that and pay huge sums of cash to every parasite with lurid claims relating to MJ both during his life and after his "death".  

This would be the ultimate movie project, never to be bettered.  He would go down in history as THE singular most incredible entertainer and performer the world had ever seen.  To those who wonder how he could upset his fans so much in faking his death, I'd say the clues are everywhere and he knows the true fans will get the message.  The Jackson family have their roles to play and while they may not be the best actors (especially Joe who seems to be almost trying to advertise this as a hoax every time he's allowed on TV), their consistent inconsistensies and contradictions have to be deliberate.  If this death was faked and intended to be kept secret, they would all keep quiet for fear of slipping up.  So far all we've had are slip-ups. Then there's the questions over the ambulance photo, the 911 call, the TMZ source, the silent treatment from UCLA, Dave Dave on LKL and the mysterious Dr Murray...the list goes on and on.  The "burial" was shown on TV why?  We'd heard Katherine wanted it private.  Why put the family and MJs kids through a media circus?  The trees in the background didn't look real at all to me, like it was a flat screen showing a scenic background.  So I believe the theory about it being green-screened too.  And there's all the Liberian Girl photos.  Coincidence? Don't think so.

Finally as a lifelong MJ fan who was 7 when Thriller was released and is grateful to have experienced the phenomenon for myself and not through old videos and articles, I think not just the media but also we have to look at ourselves and ask why we allowed ourselves to be led by the scandal sheets?  I never believed any of the allegations but if you throw enough mud some of it is bound to stick.  He could never shake the doubts off as the media had set out to destroy his reputation and they largely succeeded.  By the era of Blood On the Dancefloor the hype had disappeared and the media led us to believe that he was past his best.  A lot of us didn't even give that or his later music a chance.  I barely noticed that Invincible had been released here in the UK, and as the media were saying it was nowhere near classic MJ, that he was a has-been, etc I blindly followed that opinion and didn't buy it.  It did well in Europe sure but what about his US fans?  US media had sunk it.  The first accusations of child abuse made him livid and distrustful of the press and law enforcement, the later accusations and court case all but finished him off.  I can't help but wonder if so many fans hadn't deserted him because they believed the lies, if Invincible had been huge worldwide, how different things might have been.  Sure the Arvizo thing would probably still have happened (probably) but if he hadn't felt the need to show people the man behind the myth maybe he wouldn't have hired Bashir and the whole thing wouldn't have snowballed.
Whatever the truth, many people now realise how the media did and does still shape public opinion and how people can be destroyed on a whim if it means profit.  MJ would want that message spread as far as possible and would want all the lies scrubbed from the history books.  It's up to us to make sure that happens.  Maybe then he'll come back...or at least give us a sign that his message got through.


hi there.
i just had  to smile when i saw your name. ;)
welcome
Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
friendly
0
funny
0
informative
0
agree
0
disagree
0
pwnt
0
like
0
dislike
0
late
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

 

SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal