S.T.U.D.Y.'s old posts on MJHD.com

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I just found S.T.U.D.Y.'s /TS's old posts on MJHD.net - "verylittlesusie" saved them last year.  :)

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Of course this is just a theory, but it is rather simple and also quite convincing. If it is true, we may hear about it on 9-9-09, or it might not be publicized until the Thriller 2 (TII) movie at Halloween (This Is It). There are at least five different ways to verify the date 9-9-09.


First:
When MJ signed the 1998, he also had three additional digits—usually "0", but sometimes "X" or "6"; (for pictures, see "Michael Jackson 1998" on Google images, and/or go to this thread: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd.....-code-mean).


So if you divide 1998 by three, you come up with a three digit number: 666; and if you turn 666 upside down, you have 999. The 666 could also refer to the "beast" in the Thriller, since 666 is "the number of the beast" (Revelation 13:18). And from the Thriller lyrics: "And no one's gonna save you from the beast about strike ... unless you change that number [666] on your dial" (change from 666 to 999?).


This change from 666 to 999 could be what is coded into the "Dangerous" autograph (see above thread). Some have wondered whether the middle digit is a six or a zero; but it clearly has a hook, just a smaller hook than the hook on the top digit. In fact, if you look very close, there is a small hook even on the bottom digit; so all three digits are sixes—just progressively smaller hooks to help hide the code. Take 1998, and decrease it (down arrow, or subtract) by the 666: and you get 1332 (1998 – 666 = 1332); then insert that answer 1332 (caret means insert) and divide it by 4, which is 333 (1332 / 4 = 333). 333 is the difference between 666 and 999. The down arrow could also represent "death" / "burial", and the up arrow (caret) the "resurrection".


Second:
If you take 1998 and add the first digit (1) to the other digits (998): you have 999 (1 + 998 = 999).


Third:
9-9-09 is a catchy date, and easy to remember (like 6-6-06, and 7-7-07, etc); so this is a date that everyone would know was planned, and not a coincidence.


Fourth:
9-9-09 is exactly 77 days from the "death" on 6-25-09 (note: you must use "inclusive reckoning", see below for details). We already know about the many "sevens" related to MJ: memorial on 7-7-09 (full moon), which was 7 years after MJ signed his will on 7-7-02; funeral at 7pm, and the family was 70 minutes late, and the 7 chairs wide, and many other examples (see this thread: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd.....-symbolism).


Fifth:
9-9-09 is exactly 7 days from the funeral/"burial" on 9-3-09; again, you must use "inclusive reckoning" (this may explain why it was not on the full moon of 9-4-09). The funeral was also 71 days (inclusive) from the "death"—does anyone remember the number "71" related to his "death" (ambulance)? This should show that MJ is indeed using inclusive reckoning!


INCLUSIVE RECKONING:

This is the term which refers to the system of counting, where you "include" (inclusive) both the first and the last in counting the total number; basically, you start counting with "one" instead of "zero". Michael Jackson did read the Bible a lot, and this inclusive reckoning system is found repeatedly in the Bible—in fact, it is most well known in reference to the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ!


1 Corinthians 15:3,4, "Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" (see also Matthew 20:19; Mark 9:31; 10:34; Luke 18:33; 24:7,6; etc). Jesus died and was buried on Friday (day #1), rested on the Sabbath (day #2), and rose on Sunday (day #3).


Here is another example of inclusive reckoning: "... I do cures today [day #1] and tomorrow [day #2], and the third day I shall be perfected." (Luke 13:32). Notice that the "third day" is the day after "tomorrow". There are many other Biblical examples of inclusive reckoning (read carefully Acts 10:3,9,23,24,30); but I will not take up more space for now.


Apparently, Michael has had this up his sleeve for a couple of decades! Please let me know what you think about all this. Thanks, S.T.U.D.Y. (no, I'm not MJ)


S T U D Y

To

Understand

Doctrines

Yourself


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This song was sung at the memorial, as they brought in the casket (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....Hux4W7sIv0). So let's ask several questions here.



What "King" were they singing about—King Jesus? No, because the memorial was not a memorial for Jesus. And also because they brought the casket in during this song—was it a casket with Jesus inside? No, it was MJ inside (supposedly); and everyone knows that MJ is the "King of Pop". So they were singing about MJ! Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King of Pop!



Did they mean that soon we were going to see the dead body of MJ, is that what they were singing about?? No! Because the casket was closed both at the memorial, and also the funeral/burial. In fact, not one single picture of the body has yet been shown by the media!?! Unless of course you count the phony photo (ambulance). But even that picture was prior to the memorial; and they were singing about seeing the King in the future: "Soon and very soon ..."—that is future, so it can't be the ambulance shot that they were singing about. Last but not least: MJ is not dead! So it's not the dead body, that we are going to see "soon and very soon".



Well then, how soon are we going to see the living body? Many think that MJ went into hiding, never to appear again. But this does not fit the evidence. If that's what he wanted, then there would not be so many clues left behind that he is still alive; these are not blundering mistakes, but intentional clues—such as this song (and many other clues). If he was planning to hide forever: then no point in singing soon and very soon, we are going to see the King!



Others say that if he comes back, it won't be for years. But that would hardly qualify as "soon and very soon". Furthermore, if he did not go into permanent hiding, then he has a reason for coming back; and that would be publicity and/or to show that you can't trust the media. So when would be a good time to do this? After a few years, when the media and the public aren't thinking much about MJ anymore?? No, the best time to do this is NOW—while the news is still hot!



Some say that he will return this December, around the holidays. But does Christmas or New Years fit the Thriller theme? Don't you think Halloween would fit better—which is when the movie is coming out. This would also be "soon and very soon".



In fact, wouldn't tomorrow be "soon and very soon"—and also fit very nicely with the "1998" and "7" codes (see my topic posted yesterday: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd.....ber-9-2009). BTW: did any of you detectives notice the date and time when I posted that topic??


Stayed tuned tomorrow, for my third topic in the series.


S.T.U.D.Y.


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1. Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King (3 times) Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.

2. No more crying there, we are going to see the King (3 times)Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.

3. No more dying there, we are going to see the King (3 times)Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.


Some concern has been expressed that if the song did apply to MJ, then that would be blasphemy. Do we have any diligent Bible students here? The word is used about 50 times in the Bible, and in no case does it refer to applying the title "King" to a mere human being. Blasphemy is when a mere human takes titles and/or prerogatives which belong exclusively to God (and also when people defy or ridicule God, etc); if you were to say "I am God Almighty"—that would be blasphemy, it is a title exclusively for God. But the word "King" is used many times in the Bible in reference to humans. And none of the other words in the song apply exclusively to Jesus or God.


Sure, in the normal usage of the song "King" refers to King Jesus; but is it possible for a song to have a dual meaning? There are actually many things in the Bible with dual meanings (see 1 Corinthians 15:45; 5:7; Exodus 12:21; John 1:29; Genesis 22:7,8,13; etc). Remember the "lamb" in the sacrifices: the word referred to an animal, but it also represented Jesus! Yes, God Himself used the same word for Jesus—the King of Kings, and also for an animal; and it was not blasphemy.


For those who think that the song was not a clue about MJ: why was the casket brought in during that song? Even if that song had to be first (and it did not), they could have brought the casket in during another song–so there would be no possible misapplication. Do you suppose that the producers of the memorial did not even realize that MJ is very well known as the "King" of Pop?? Or do you suppose that even though they knew "King" is an established title for MJ—yet they thought that nobody in the whole wide watching world would remember that MJ is a "King" during that song??? If that sounds ridiculous, it's probably because it is! Surely the producers knew that at least some people would think of MJ being a "King" during that song—especially when they brought the casket in during the song! And if the producers knew this, and did it anyway: then it had to be intentional, it had to be a clue.

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diggyon

By the way, I have noticed something:

WhiTney HouSton!!!!!

Am I paranoid or something??????

Together we are strong

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abraham Lincoln

Thank you Michael for letting me discover the truth!

I lost the bet, Sarahli won it! ! ! loool


AKHTONI

Quote from: diggyon on February 12, 2012, 11:57:52 AM

By the way, I have noticed something:

WhiTney HouSton!!!!!

Am I paranoid or something??????

she is dead now  geek/ so no more TS ,no more posts= we have to leave this site  :lol:  :lol:
MJ&EP REAL ICONS AND THE REST ARE RUBBISH

MJonmind

February 13, 2012, 04:17:04 AM #32 Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 04:37:13 AM by MJonmind

TS and Front have called themselves (kidding) the pink panther, Mickey Mouse, Conrad Murray, and Tom Sneddon.
If TS lied while saying, "I'm not Michael Jackson", perhaps he lied in saying that MJ was not in the ambulance on the 25th, but had gone to the airport as Jermaine had said.
He's also made some promises about posting further info on levels, that he didn't keep, which is sort of lying.
The hoax is based on a lie.
Billie Jean, "the lie becomes the truth".
Michael and TS are slippery ones.  Afterwards they'll probably have some good reasoning for saying what they said-- like timing, throwing us off the trail, etc.
The latest name variation of TS, The Sign, has indicated he is more than one ("we"), so my guess is they are Michael and Elvis (hence emphasis on MJ & Elvis).  Then saying "I'm not Michael", is only a half lie.

Though I haven't quite finished re-reading TS's (STUDY) first posts what really jumps out at me is the emphasis on 9-9-09 as Resurrection Day, and that it is a crucial day for lining up many other number codes.  What exactly was this resurrection of MJ's?  I'm assuming that he'd already been around, and seen by at least hoaxers, as Blond Lady and Dave Dave on LKL before 9/9/09.  Did he change physically in some mysterious way?  Did he just "Say" he was resurrected on that day for hoax numerology only?  Obviously 'Resurrection', 'Return', and 'Bam', are 3 different things to MJ. :? smiley_spider

diggyon
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WhiTney HouSton!!!!!

That is such a cool discovery!  99% likely coincidence, but who knows!

Bec
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These are wonderful to review, thank you so much Ninanina for posting them. Rereading them is very interesting. It makes me wonder if we blew it back then. No way was he coming back around the time TII was released, by then the hoax community were officially at each others throats and the message was being completely overlooked. I still wonder if we were set up. Those circumstances aren't likely to be coincidental either.These posts were supposed to be lost forever when the data base crashed/was wiped out/disappeared forever.We have data from 6-25-09 through 8-4-09. Everything after that was wiped out unless it was backed up on MJKit or posted here when MJDHI was launched. So we have 40 days and 40 nights of information until MJHD.com closed for the very first time.For 40 days and for 40 nights, the law was on her side (Lyrics dropped from TII)'cuz the lie becomes the truth (dropped)also, incidently:she called me to her room (dropped)Which is strange.

Did MJ/TS hope or assume that someone would save his early posts?   There is just jaw-dropping, staggering amounts of details that MJ has put in this hoax, much of which may be completely undiscovered. If MJ was behind the first MJHD site crash to erase TS's posts,  why would he go to so much work to write them, only to delete them, as he has also done with Back posts. Plus MJ/TS seem quite content with hoaxers at this site dwindling down to very small.  He seems in so many ways to be trying to make this an ultra challenge for only the strong, and eliminating the weak of faith or determination.


GINAFELICIA

Quote from: MJonmind on February 13, 2012, 04:17:04 AM

Though I haven't quite finished re-reading TS's (STUDY) first posts what really jumps out at me is the emphasis on 9-9-09 as Resurrection Day, and that it is a crucial day for lining up many other number codes.  What exactly was this resurrection of MJ's?  I'm assuming that he'd already been around, and seen by at least hoaxers, as Blond Lady and Dave Dave on LKL before 9/9/09.  Did he change physically in some mysterious way?  Did he just "Say" he was resurrected on that day for hoax numerology only?  Obviously 'Resurrection', 'Return', and 'Bam', are 3 different things to MJ. :? smiley_spider
TS said something about the final date of the autopsy report being 09-09-09 (I didn't read the autopsy report by now - I am afraid to read it :( )

SimPattyK

Great post MjonMind  /bravo/ As ususal!!!

Quote from: MJonmind on February 13, 2012, 04:17:04 AM

TS and Front have called themselves (kidding) the pink panther, Mickey Mouse, Conrad Murray, and Tom Sneddon.
If TS lied while saying, "I'm not Michael Jackson", perhaps he lied in saying that MJ was not in the ambulance on the 25th, but had gone to the airport as Jermaine had said.
He's also made some promises about posting further info on levels, that he didn't keep, which is sort of lying.
The hoax is based on a lie.
Billie Jean, "the lie becomes the truth".
Michael and TS are slippery ones.  Afterwards they'll probably have some good reasoning for saying what they said-- like timing, throwing us off the trail, etc.
The latest name variation of TS, The Sign, has indicated he is more than one ("we"),

so my guess is they are Michael and Elvis (hence emphasis on MJ & Elvis).  Then saying "I'm not Michael", is only a half lie.[...]

^^ Love you for that! ;)  bearhug
If we're crazy for believing that, let's be crazy together!  :lol:


bec

February 13, 2012, 10:23:41 AM #35 Last Edit: February 13, 2012, 10:26:20 AM by bec
Quote from: MJonmind on February 13, 2012, 04:17:04 AM

Bec

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These are wonderful to review, thank you so much Ninanina for posting them. Rereading them is very interesting. It makes me wonder if we blew it back then. No way was he coming back around the time TII was released, by then the hoax community were officially at each others throats and the message was being completely overlooked. I still wonder if we were set up. Those circumstances aren't likely to be coincidental either.These posts were supposed to be lost forever when the data base crashed/was wiped out/disappeared forever.We have data from 6-25-09 through 8-4-09. Everything after that was wiped out unless it was backed up on MJKit or posted here when MJDHI was launched. So we have 40 days and 40 nights of information until MJHD.com closed for the very first time.For 40 days and for 40 nights, the law was on her side (Lyrics dropped from TII)'cuz the lie becomes the truth (dropped)also, incidently:she called me to her room (dropped)Which is strange.

Did MJ/TS hope or assume that someone would save his early posts?   There is just jaw-dropping, staggering amounts of details that MJ has put in this hoax, much of which may be completely undiscovered. If MJ was behind the first MJHD site crash to erase TS's posts,  why would he go to so much work to write them, only to delete them, as he has also done with Back posts. Plus MJ/TS seem quite content with hoaxers at this site dwindling down to very small.  He seems in so many ways to be trying to make this an ultra challenge for only the strong, and eliminating the weak of faith or determination.

Just to clarify, STUDY didn't show up until about 30 days AFTER the first MJHD.com shut down. We received the old archives: 6/25/09--> up until the first crash (8/3/09) from anonymous source on Christmas Eve 2009. STUDY's posts weren't deleted until the final board crash ~mid-November 2009.

I just noticed, in regards to certain lyrics dropped (not sung) in the TII rendition of MJ songs, I mentioned above that it was strange that "she called me to her room" was dropped in TII's Billy Jean. Other lyrics which seem to have much deeper meaning (example--"and the lie becomes the truth") were also dropped  leaving me to believe the clues lied in what was NOT sung... as opposed to what WAS sung from the songs in TII. It was just a theory I was researching at the time. I believed, as with Liberian Girl, they were clues only for the fans (who would know these things) and were designed to not rouse suspicion from those unfamiliar with MJs work (media/non-fans).

In Behind the Mask, the lyrics refer to: "When I come to you, you're sitting in your room". This lyric always seems so odd to me, out of place, like it doesn't flow or have much deeper meaning. But now I notice a link to Billy Jean with reference to a woman/female's room, "she called me to her room".

Anyway, it's just an interesting thing to point out.

Are you entertained?

bec

"When I come to you, you're sitting in your room"

"she called me to her room"

I found this Biblical reference that is similar:

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Luke 14

King James Version (KJV)
Luke 14

1And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.

2And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.

3And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?

4And they held their peace. And he took him, and healed him, and let him go;

5And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?

6And they could not answer him again to these things.

7And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them.

8When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him;

9And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room.

10But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee.

11For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

12Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.

13But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:

14And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.

15And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.

16Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many:

17And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.

18And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.

19And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.

20And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.

21So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.

22And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.

23And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.

24For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

25And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,

26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

27And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

28For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

29Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,

30Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.

31Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

32Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.

33So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

34Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?

35It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Reference to doing God's work on the Sabbath in the same passage drew my attention.

Charity (goodness) is more important, or should be held in higher regard then Faith (TRUTH)

"First Justice then Truth"-- Jermaine Jackson, correct?

Truth=Faith. First Justice then Faith? But goodness is a higher virtue and one's salvation (place in heaven) is not assured until one is able to conjoin Goodness and Truth. Whatever room you chose exposes your level of salvation. Chose the lowest room=humility and virtue, which brings one closer to salvation.

Super interesting connections considering current TIAI discussions.

Are you entertained?

GINAFELICIA


GINAFELICIA

from STUDY

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More Reasons Why MJ Will Return in the Movie

Furthermore, we have merely calculated the odds that relate ONLY to the 9-9-09 date; and yet there are many other things which show not only that the death is a hoax, but also that the movie will reveal the MJ return ...

...Why is TII coming out at Halloween, unless it is the ultimate Thriller 2 (TII)—with MJ coming back to life near the end of the movie?

Maybe I don't remember but where near the end of the movie is MJ coming back to life ?

bec

One instance is in Thriller when MJ emerges from the spider which emerged from the grave.

The other instance, more metaphorical even yet, is the BAM scene after the credits.

He could be referring to either but most likely to the former.

Are you entertained?

GINAFELICIA

I am not sure but "near the end of the movie" to me means before credits because the credits come after the end.

I migh tbe wrong but the Bam scene is after the credits, so after the end of the movie....well I am not really sure...credits are not part of the movie


bec

Good point.

So then he's most likely referring to the spider scene.

Are you entertained?

GINAFELICIA

February 15, 2012, 10:12:26 PM #42 Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 10:21:36 PM by GINAFELICIA

There must be another scene because the spider one comes during Thriller and Thriller is not near the end, but somewhere in the middle. At minute 61 of the 111 minutes of the movie - to be more precise.
Doesn't look like near the end to me.


bec

"Near" is a fairly vague reference. Like we would expect anything less.

Are you entertained?

GINAFELICIA

Quote from: bec on February 15, 2012, 11:49:31 PM

"Near" is a fairly vague reference. Like we would expect anything less.

yeah