SCIENTOLOGY - LISA MARIE AND MJ CONNECTION

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

I was watching a BBC documentary yesterday evening (link below), what disturbed me as much as anything was the amount of pyramids symbolism in the Scientology Logos (Illuminatti Links  :?:   :shock:)  which I had never considered before, and the way the "religeon" is carried out, the confessions which are video taped, the way people are followed and controlled!  It was most disturbing.  Did this happen to Michael when he married Lisa Marie, did they try to get him into Scientology and to control him, when he and Lisa parted, if what we were shown on the TV is true, once they were no longer married Lisa would not be allowed to contact him  :shock:

Before watching this programme I had no knowledge of Scientology at all and it made me feel    :shock:   It really made me begin to wonder.  :?

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[MissG]

That cult knows who to choose in order to get their money.
Hopefully, people will research more about it and learn how it harms people.

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

I was watching a BBC documentary yesterday evening (link below), what disturbed me as much as anything was the amount of pyramids symbolism in the Scientology Logos (Illuminatti Links  :?:   :shock:)  which I had never considered before, and the way the "religeon" is carried out, the confessions which are video taped, the way people are followed and controlled!  It was most disturbing.  Did this happen to Michael when he married Lisa Marie, did they try to get him into Scientology and to control him, when he and Lisa parted, if what we were shown on the TV is true, once they were no longer married Lisa would not be allowed to contact him  :shock:

Before watching this programme I had no knowledge of Scientology at all and it made me feel    :shock:   It really made me begin to wonder.  :?

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This is an excert from the link below its quite revealing

The Michael Jackson Scientology recruiting story is intriguing. Celebrities who bring in other BIG celebrities (like Mimi Rogers who brought in Tom Cruise) are treated even more royally inside the organization.

The speedy Lisa Marie Presley Michael Jackson marriage fits the classic profile of Scientology celebrity recruiting and in some ways is similar to the conveniently fast Travolta Marriage.

Michael Jackson was a highly vulnerable target. He had just come out of a drug rehabilitation program, went through child molesting charges, and his career was slumping. Lisa Marie reportedly chased him and wouldn't take no for an answer.

Michael Jackson is the ultimate plum to Scientology. In Scientology's mind one Michael Jackson can bring in millions of new young and naive members.

A fanatical Scientologist would easily marry or divorce to prove his or her total dedication to "bringing in" millions of people (clearing and controlling the planet.) Those celebrities who have been through the OT III initiation know that "clearing the planet" really means they are one of the elite aliens trapped here. They know the Scientology secret initiations woke them up to their real identity and world historic destiny, and that they will have to go back out into the galaxy and eventually re-fight the old space war. (The Scientology secret initiation process produces a fanatical loyalty at a virtually irrational level.)

Is Lisa Marie a Scientology fanatic? She was married to a Sea Org member who signed a "billion year" contract. She has lived extensively at Scientology centers. By this time she has probably passed the OT III initiation. It's well within the scope of Scientology covert operations and loyalty testing for her to have been on a celebrity recruiting operation for acquiring Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson may be Scientology's current #1 celebrity recruiting target. Unfortunately, going from the PR nightmares of his recent past into the world's most dangerous satanic cult will not be the best way to improve his marketability. He may find that what he gets with Lisa Marie may not be worth the "marriage" benefit.

The parallels make one wonder, did Scientology offer Lisa Marie Presley as an easy public relations solution to Jackson's sexual identity problems and his potential child molesting problems? Getting married after being considered a homosexual or a child molester is a good way to quash those notions in the public's eye. Was this another Travolta Kelly Preston quick marriage orchestrated for public relations benefit?

If Jackson is being manipulated to get in, will he ever dare go public? If he is not in yet, are Scientology and Lisa Marie slowly isolating him by replacing his non Scientology staff and advisors with pro Scientology people to effect the final conversion? Will Jackson and his staff smell the con, and distance themselves completely and permanently from Lisa Marie and the cynical Scientology celebrity manipulators? Only time will tell...

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[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

And still more on the net regarding MJ and Scientology, this time relating to the sales of Thriller !  

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The Scientologist conspiracy: It's bigger than you think Barry Perlman
February 9, 1995 Where are all the copies of Michael Jackson's "Thriller"? As far as I know, it still stands as the greatest-selling album of all time. Yet very few people I know actually own a copy (or admit to owning a copy) of "Thriller." I still own my original vinyl copy, complete with scratches and authentic record-album hissing, but where are all the millions upon millions of others? When I finally forced myself to contemplate seriously the answer to this cultural dilemma, it became crystal clear.

All those copies of "Thriller" were never actually printed. This media hoax was strategically designed by none other than the mysterious cult of Scientologists, brilliant manipulators who are out to make the "big bucks" to support their own religious endeavors. L. Ron Hubbard's landmark book "Dianetics" also boasts inflated sales numbers, a ploy to increase the credibility of the Scientologist belief system in the eyes of America. Those millions of copies of "Dianetics" were never widely distributed but rather were sold back and forth among members of the church of Scientology, creating the illusion that a huge audience was reading the book.

Why, you may ask, would the Scientologists care enough about Michael Jackson to put out the effort? Well, if you must know, Michael Jackson is a Scientologist, although I can't be completely sure. Michael is certainly involved in some secretive shady activity or another, and all those mysterious cult organizations must somehow be involved with each other. All the money for such imitation religions flows to the same place--although the exact location remains widely unknown--and all of them look out for each other.

When a person joins one of these churches, part of the deal is a committed pledge of a significant percentage of that person's annual income. When celebrities like Michael Jackson join one of the churches, a lot of money is at stake. Churches like Scientology bend over backwards to ensure that the celebrity stays popular because: The more money the celebrity makes, the more money the church draws in.

As a result, celebrities such as Michael Jackson who often suffer from bad publicity look to their cult leaders for a way out. When everyone was concerned that Michael and his sister Janet were really the same person (since they were never seen in the same place at the same time--and they did have the same artificial nose for a while), the Scientologists made sure that the whole world witnessed the two together, hugging at some awards show. Just look at Michael's recent marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, well-known to be a Scientologist.

Michael was trying to recover from his child molestation scandal and his general reputation for being a weirdo; Lisa Marie was fighting off rumors that she was a lesbian; they both have amazing amounts of money.

Do the math: It's all a Scientologist set-up. They do it all the time.

Look at other Hollywood cover marriages. Kirstie Alley, a Scientologist, was married off to divert our attention from her alleged drug problems and ballooning weight. John Travolta, another one, was married off to a pretty blonde to prove his perennially questionable heterosexuality. Not to mention Tom Cruise, the perfect example of all. His first arranged marriage failed because Mimi Rogers was no longer willing to pretend that they were happy. Nicole Kidman was brought in and bribed with fame in exchange for staying with Tom for the publicity. They get tons of good publicity on Hard Copy and the others, quite a rarity indeed. Someone is paying for that publicity. It's the church of Scientology, making sure that no one doubts Tom Cruise's status as leading hunk and happy family man.

(Could he perhaps be gay?) Don't act surprised. This is just a sliver of what is going on behind our backs, and it's not just the Scientologists doing it. All across this great land of ours, hoax upon hoax is being pushed past us. We all heard as children that Mikey of the Life commercials died when he ate a bunch of Pop Rocks and drank Cokes and exploded. Pop myth or merchandising ploy by Pepsi-Cola, Gobstoppers and Rice Krispies, all in cahoots? We heard that Cindy Brady grew up to be a porn star.

Benign rumor or set-up by the Partridge Family people? You be the judge.

And there's no reason to think it's all going to stop any time soon;

it's been going on forever. Between 1790 and 1820 in Britain, some underground politicos staged a series of 19 suicides of Parliament members as a cover-up for an attempted coup d'etat. They weren't suicides, but murders. The more-than-20 other statesmen who were said to have "lapsed into insanity" were merely scared for their lives;

even King George III went a little crazy in anticipation.

You know, you don't have to believe me that all this stuff goes on.

It's only yourself you're fooling. What's the matter? A little paranoid, paranoid, paranoid...

Barry Perlman is a Trinity senior.


I am just gathering information, for your consideration an area which hasnt been researched. I dont believe Michael was a scientologist, but I think he had a very close call :shock:

[all4loveandbelieve]

Alot of actors are scientology, John Travolta, Tom Cruise, They don't believe in medicine, they feel that the person will get better by science. This is what John Travolta had explained when his son passed away last yr.

[Glinda]

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[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

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   :shock:  God this man has serious issues, he is not in control of his life  :shock:   This is a good example of mind control taken in conjunction with the BBC panorama program it really is  


So, if Lisa Marie Presley, and her Pricella Presley were both Scientologists at the time she was married to Michael  :shock:  then maybe they were supposed to recruit him into Scientology, maybe that is the reason that she would not have children with Michael, because Scientologists only have children with another Scientologist :?   I have never thought about the reason why Lisa wouldnt have children with Michael until now, maybe This is It ?  her current husband is also a Scientologist and they have children.  Lisa Marie has been a Scientologist since the age of 18 years.  Elvis was totally against Scientology.


TS can you help me out here?

[Dancing_Machine]

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   :shock:  God this man has serious issues, he is not in control of his life  :shock:   This is a good example of mind control taken in conjunction with the BBC panorama program it really is  


So, if Lisa Marie Presley, and her Pricella Presley were both Scientologists at the time she was married to Michael  :shock:  then maybe they were supposed to recruit him into Scientology, maybe that is the reason that she would not have children with Michael, because Scientologists only have children with another Scientologist :?   I have never thought about the reason why Lisa wouldnt have children with Michael until now, maybe This is It ?  her current husband is also a Scientologist and they have children.  Lisa Marie has been a Scientologist since the age of 18 years.  Elvis was totally against Scientology.


TS can you help me out here?

Maybe that's the reason why they divorced? Maybe she wanted to have kids with him as well but felt the pressure of the Scientology church?

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

another scientology connection in the hoax Dr Murray met with Joel Oesteen who is a Scientologist

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[Sinderella]

I watched it last night and I am totally agreeing with you Loving.
Be worth checking into how many of his 'circle' and 'friends' were also part of this religion...AHEM..sorry CULT.
So angry after watching that last night.They are so rude and the guy who runs it :@ wanted to use him as my kickboxing bag for a few hours.EUGH.

They go after,chase,follow,harrass,people,lie,bug phones,have spies everywhere...it was unreal.
He might not have been so paranoid after all....
They also try and recruit people they know have A LOT of money to put into the cult as you have to pay to go up the ranks and it can go into hundreds of thousands of Dollars and as has been said he was at a vunerable time in his life,he needed that stability and guidence from someone....that someone being LMP aka a brainwashed cult member.

CULT not religion.Brainwashing people into signing their life away and living on a compound like sing sing but slightly more cushy..is not a religion.

Tell you one thing for sure,they aint getting me to sign up

[finfin]

Ian Halperin talked about Michael and Lisa-Marie's marriage and the influence of Scientology in chapter 9 of his book "Unmasked".  He maintained that Lisa-Marie was persuaded by the Scientology cult into marrying Michael after quickly divorcing her first husband, even though she was happily married with 2 children. Ian Halperin is the writer who started the rumours in Dec '08 that Michael had only 6 months to live.

[emeraldcity]

Just looking at this from another angle ... do you think, in light of the hoax, that LMP (and perhaps other high profile celebrities) might be masquerading as Scientologists in order to expose the corruption and brainwashing that goes on within their organisation?  We know that Elvis was very much against Scientology, and if we believe he is alive and in contact with his daughter, then imagine how he would feel knowing Lisa Marie was a fully-fledged member of a cult he abhorred.  I think it's more likely that there is some undercover work going on within the Scientology movement - just as there is in other corrupt movements/organisations/agencies currently operating on Planet Earth.  They may think they have the upper hand now, but when the hoax is finally revealed and the light is shone in all the dark and secret places, there will be nowhere left for the leaders of these shady groups to hide.  Just my opinion ... I could be way off track here, but we are being encouraged to think for ourselves and leave no stone unturned in search of the ultimate TRUTH.  Love & peace to all, Emerald

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

Just looking at this from another angle ... do you think, in light of the hoax, that LMP (and perhaps other high profile celebrities) might be masquerading as Scientologists in order to expose the corruption and brainwashing that goes on within their organisation?  We know that Elvis was very much against Scientology, and if we believe he is alive and in contact with his daughter, then imagine how he would feel knowing Lisa Marie was a fully-fledged member of a cult he abhorred.  I think it's more likely that there is some undercover work going on within the Scientology movement - just as there is in other corrupt movements/organisations/agencies currently operating on Planet Earth.  They may think they have the upper hand now, but when the hoax is finally revealed and the light is shone in all the dark and secret places, there will be nowhere left for the leaders of these shady groups to hide.  Just my opinion ... I could be way off track here, but we are being encouraged to think for ourselves and leave no stone unturned in search of the ultimate TRUTH.  Love & peace to all, Emerald

Thank you emeraldcity, I had been thinking that way myself regarding the Elvis connection, it would be a reason why Elivs might consider returning after all this time.

 

[emeraldcity]

@ Ijustcantstoplovingu .... I honestly think Lisa Marie is playing a crucial part in the hoax.  I personally can't wait for these corrupt organisations who wield so much power over people now to be brought down to their knees and exposed for all the world to see.  I believe Michael, Elvis, Lisa Marie and many others we're not yet aware of are working behind the scenes to do just that.  Thanks for your support ... it's good to know I'm not the only one who thinks this way.  I have many other thoughts that I tend to keep to myself because I feel they may be too "out there"  

BTW, where in the U.K. are you from?  I live in Oz now but originally come from Liverpool and still feel very English at heart     Peace & love, emerald xo

[suspicious mind]

another scientology connection in the hoax Dr Murray met with Joel Oesteen who is a Scientologist

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is this a blog?