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Why does MJ want low numbers for the hoax?

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This has been on my mind for some time and I wondered about your thoughts on it.

Michael is the most famous man on the planet. He's used to dealing with fans by the hundreds of thousands and the interested public by the millions. Michael is going to so much work with this hoax. TS and TMZ have no doubt put in long hours keeping up with reading on this site and maybe other hoax sites. I notice we are down to an average of 53 users during the day and often as low as 35 around nighttime for me in central Canada. I just don't get why they would go to all this effort for such small potatoes. I've thought about the Gideon principle that we have discussed elsewhere, God narrowing Gideon's army down to 300 for the successul attack against a vast enemy army. Or maybe after BAM, the info here will explode everywhere.[attachment=0:ppmx8w9r]love_0928.jpg[/attachment:ppmx8w9r]

Or will it be like the alternative 911 sites discussing US involvement, in many small Youtube personal investigations that slowly swell, getting more and more of the ordinary public noticing and rethinking. In fact even of our members here, many struggle still with whether MJ is still alive, the most basic of levels. After over a year there are still Jackson family and friends' testimonies and tweets, etc. clearly saying MJ is dead, trying to continue to cement in people's minds that he died. There have been promises of big things to expect and then nothing significant happened, such as the World soccer games, awards nights, Murray trial dates, on and on.

It seems Michael is deliberately keeping hoax believers very low, very small. In the public's eyes that small number of believers is probably in the lunacy section. They continue to roll their eyes on the topic :roll:   :evil:  :lol: or laugh or get mad. In the beginning it felt good to be part of a growing group of people becoming aware of MJ hoaxing his death, preparing everyone for a comeback/resurrection. I'm sure 911 truthers feel good about the growing percentages of Americans who question the official story, is it more than 25% now?  But now here, in spite of interesting topics, lots more areas that could still be investigated further, in spite of TS and TIalmostI urging us to go back and reexamine older info --the numbers staying is dwindling.

No organization or business would do this intensive output, for such comparitively small numbers. It wouldn't be economically feasible or wise, it would be suicide for them. I hope MJ's not just leading us along dangling a carrot in front of us. My family and friends who I've told, all say I'll probably be hanging on for 30 years like the Elvis fans. :( I know there was that poll on TMZ on MJ being alive, but that was just for fun. I totally believe MJ's leading us to good things, but... :?  :)

Any thoughts or reasons why? Thanks.
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#90
October 18, 2010, 03:51:53 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Yeah, there's the expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", and it appears that "disrespect" is in the mind of the thinker. I don't know if that makes sense.

GINAFELICIA

#91
October 18, 2010, 04:21:22 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Yes it does make sense  :D

BlackJack

#92
October 18, 2010, 05:04:16 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "MJonmind"

Yeah, there's the expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", and it appears that "disrespect" is in the mind of the thinker. I don't know if that makes sense.

Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"

Yes it does make sense  :D

I agree whole-heartedly................ I guess it's also a part of the way society views celebrity................re-education is definately needed. Admiration is one thing, but there is a line that when crossed, is actually demeaning in a way I suppose.

MissG

#93
October 18, 2010, 05:54:20 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

What "disrespect" are you refering to?
Looks like we are forgetting that MJ was an icon with all the consequences. Inside the picture is fanfiction. Is part of the marketing associated with the business.
I may also add, that some of the MJ´s moves are "sexy" beyond any creative steps. Even more, this ones presented at the beginning of the video below are not just random steps  ;) are there to create fanfiction, lust and clearly that response from fans  :)
[youtube:11423j5l]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf42YDEkJnA[/youtube:11423j5l]

Still, I think that we, supporters and fans, must understand that out from the stage, out from work, he is an average man with family and his space must be respected  ;)

("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

GINAFELICIA

#94
October 18, 2010, 06:10:47 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "BlackJack"

I agree whole-heartedly................ I guess it's also a part of the way society views celebrity................re-education is definately needed. Admiration is one thing, but there is a line that when crossed, is actually demeaning in a way I suppose.

Well, you made me realize I'm the first one who has to start  re-educating herself  :D   ahhhhhhh..... that's gonna be difficult after a lifetime of worshiping Michael  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

GINAFELICIA

#95
October 18, 2010, 06:19:47 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Gema.... I try to clear my thoughts about this. It's nothing more than a show I suppose, the way he dances in that video (I like it BTW  ;) ).
So I guess we should enjoy it and than forget it...sorry, I'm confused about this.... what's the right behaviour when it comes to the sexy side of Michael  :? ?!
But I guess BlackJack already answered this: there's a line that should not be crossed

Sarahli

#96
October 18, 2010, 06:37:11 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

We have to make the difference between the stage/the show for the sake of it and real life. I think that our brain allows us to do that...be it a perfect show or whatever...the illusion must not makes us blind.
I understand what you're trying to say Gema...but in the end we decide to succumb to the illusion or not, we are responsible (and you pinpointed to that conclusion in your conclusion  ;) ).

We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

MissG

#97
October 18, 2010, 06:42:04 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"

Gema.... I try to clear my thoughts about this. It's nothing more than a show I suppose, the way he dances in that video (I like it BTW  ;) ).
So I guess we should enjoy it and than forget it...sorry, I'm confused about this.... what's the right behaviour when it comes to Michael  :? ?!

Well, only you can answer to that question. Think what your reflection was.

IMO, during the show, it´s ok to shout and all that, but, after the show, that man is a man who eats, burps and all that  :lol: . Part of his "work" is to put up a show including a fantasy, but that does not mean that MJ is walking the streets dancing Keep it in the closet 24/7  ;)

I think it is important to see him first as a man and second as an entertainer (and I think this way since always, also before June 25th  ;) ).

He has more to offer. please, have a look at this videos again.
[youtube:mshd31f4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFDkyglJYk4[/youtube:mshd31f4]
[youtube:mshd31f4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__hPA0z27uk&feature=related[/youtube:mshd31f4]

And now, the question  :) How would you approach MJ after watching those speeches?
The answer must come from you  :)

As I see it:
-MJ concert/ icon: of course I shout and become part of the senzation.

-MJ speech: I listen and admire, try to make mental notes and approach him if possible  to thank him personally for it. If not, never mind. He would know that every person there listening are willing to learn something and automatically are thankful for it. So either way, he knows that there is a "thanks" message anyway.

-MJ walking in the streets: honestly, I don´t know how my reaction would be but I guess it would be the same than to other popular people I´ve met in the past. I just let them be  :|

("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

MissG

#98
October 18, 2010, 06:44:27 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Sarahli"

We have to make the difference between the stage/the show for the sake of it and real life. I think that our brain allows us to do that...be it a perfect show or whatever...the illusion must not makes us blind.
I understand what you're trying to say Gema...but in the end we decide to succumb to the illusion or not, we are responsible (and you pinpointed to that conclusion in your conclusion  ;) ).

As ususal, you got my point and expressed it better than I could do  :lol:
Thanks hun :)
("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

MissG

#99
October 18, 2010, 06:45:51 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Also, a confession. I have a pic shopped with Mike  :lol:  He is Elliot riding the bike and I am E.T in the basket. So what?  :lol:

("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

GINAFELICIA

#100
October 18, 2010, 06:56:53 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Gema"

Also, a confession. I have a pic shopped with Mike  :lol:  He is Elliot riding the bike and I am E.T in the basket. So what?  :lol:

You're ET in the basket  :lol: ?

See, your photo is funny, but the photoshop pic of fans with Michael I saw are not funny, but something else and you know what I mean.... well, it's just my opinion... I would feel ridiculous to photoshop my pic like that.

GINAFELICIA

#101
October 18, 2010, 07:00:55 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Yes I am all aware he has much much more to offer, I know that and I admire him for that.
Also, I am not the kind who shouts during the concerts, no matter how much I'm enjoying it... but it's all there in my mind...

MissG

#102
October 18, 2010, 07:07:01 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"

Quote from: "Gema"

Also, a confession. I have a pic shopped with Mike  :lol:  He is Elliot riding the bike and I am E.T in the basket. So what?  :lol:

You're ET in the basket  :lol: ?

See, your photo is funny, but the photoshop pic of fans with Michael I saw are not funny, but something else and you know what I mean.... well, it's just my opinion... I would feel ridiculous to photoshop my pic like that.

I guess that the people who do other pothoshops are also having a fun time ;)
To be critic, I only saw one "disturbing" photoshop that made me wonder about how that person felt in her fantasies. The rest of shopped ones that I have seen are harmeless imo  :) and funny as well.

As has been said, the interpretation of the message is in the eyes of the receiver ;) what is not appropiate for you, can be for me, and viceversa.

Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"

Yes I am all aware he has much much more to offer, I know that and I admire him for that.
Also, I am not the kind who shouts during the concerts, no matter how much I'm enjoying it... but it's all there in my mind...

What is in your mind? whatever it is, keep it in the closet ;) and please, don´t feel bad for it. You have the right to your own privacy.
("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

GINAFELICIA

#103
October 18, 2010, 07:25:27 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

it's all there in my mind - I mean the excitement of the show.... what were you thinking about Gema  :lol:  ?

GINAFELICIA

#104
October 18, 2010, 07:41:11 AM Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Gema"

What "disrespect" are you refering to?
Looks like we are forgetting that MJ was an icon with all the consequences. Inside the picture is fanfiction. Is part of the marketing associated with the business.
I may also add, that some of the MJ´s moves are "sexy" beyond any creative steps. Even more, this ones presented at the beginning of the video below are not just random steps  ;) are there to create fanfiction, lust and clearly that response from fans  :)
[youtube:3ay8q20n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf42YDEkJnA[/youtube:3ay8q20n]

Still, I think that we, supporters and fans, must understand that out from the stage, out from work, he is an average man with family and his space must be respected  ;)

Gema it was about those fans who think Michael is dead, They say that the ones who think he's alive are disrespectful to him because this implies Michael is a liar. So they say we are disrespectful because we think he faked his death, but they don't consider themselves disrespectful for having dirty thouths about a man who they think is dead.
Just a thought....
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