Barack Obama attack iran president on 9/11 comments

[willddoMJ]

Barack Obama makes angry attack on Iranian president's 9/11 comments

Barack Obama made an angry personal attack on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday, saying claims by Iran's president that the United States carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks to prop up Israel were "hateful, offensive and inexcusable".

Obama also used an interview with BBC Persian TV to appeal directly to the people of Iran, defending UN sanctions and urging them to believe the US wants a better relationship with the Islamic republic, repeating that it was only possible if it complied with international demands over its nuclear programme.

Ahmadinejad's remarks to the UN general assembly on Thursday caused wide outrage and a walkout by diplomats from the US, Britain and many other countries. The Iranian president said one "theory" of what happened in September 2001 was that "the US government orchestrated the attack in order to save the Zionist regime in the Middle East".

Obama described this as outrageous and disgusting: "Particularly for him to make the statement here in Manhattan, just a little north of Ground Zero, where families lost their loved ones, people of all faiths, all ethnicities who see this as the seminal tragedy of this generation; for him to make a statement like that was inexcusable."

An unrepentant Ahmadinejad returned to the theme again yesterday, calling on the UN to set up a commission to study the attacks, for which al-Qaida claimed responsibility. "I did not pass judgment, but don't you feel that the time has come to have a fact-finding committee," he asked during a news conference in New York. He also said Iran would consider ending uranium enrichment if world powers sent Tehran nuclear fuel for a medical research reactor. "We will consider halting uranium enrichment whenever nuclear fuel is provided to us," he said.

In his interview, Obama said Ahmadinejad's stance on 9/11 contrasted with Iranians' reaction at the time: "There were candlelight vigils and a natural sense of shared humanity and sympathy. It shows once again the difference between how the Iranian leadership and this regime operate, and how the vast majority of the Iranian people who are respectful and thoughtful think about these issues."

Making this distinction was the point of his interview, broadcast on PTV last night, with a Persian translation, and likely to be seen by millions of Iranians despite official jamming. It was an scoop for the London satellite channel set up in 2008 and enjoying far greater credibility than the Persian service of the Voice of America.

US officials had already called Ahmadinejad's remarks "abhorrent and delusional", but Obama's public riposte is likely to have a global resonance.

The president said the point of the sanctions imposed by the US, the UN and the EU was to make the regime allay concern over the purpose of its nuclear programme. For Tehran it was "more important to defy the international community and engage in a covert nuclear weapons programme than to make sure people are prospering".

Obama repeated the offer made shortly after taking office in 2009. "We're willing to reach out with an open hand to the Iranian government and the Iranian people because we believe that there's nothing inevitable that should cause Iran and the US to be enemies. There's a history there that is difficult. But it can be bridged with mutual understanding, mutual respect."

At his press conference Ahmadinejad also lashed out at the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as an overreaction to 9/11. The Americans should "not occupy the entire Middle East, bomb wedding parties, annihilate an entire village, just because one terrorist is hiding there," he said.

Obama conspicuously did not talk of a military option. "I don't take war lightly," he told PTV. "I was opposed to the war in Iraq. I am somebody who's interested in resolving issues diplomatically." He also emphasised that the US was acting with wide international support though he refused to say whether he would stop Israel if it decided to attack Iran.

"Understandably, Israel is very concerned when the president of a country, a large country near them, states that they should be wiped off the face of the earth."

The president praised the "courage" of Iranians in the unrest that followed last year's disputed elections, saying: "We have no interest in meddling, in the rights of people that choose their own government, but we will speak out forcefully when we see governments abusing and oppressing their own people." The Iranian government had "delegitimised itself in ways that continue to reverberate around the world."

The White House said it hoped to encourage debate in Iran on the speech. "We will, to amplify the president's messages, ... be blogging it, Tweeting it, posting on Youtube and, again, ensuring that we are doing everything that we can to disseminate the president's words," an administration official said.

It was reported last night Ahmadinejad had met Sarah Shourd, an American hiker held last year near the Iran-Iraq border. Shourd, released this month, was believed to have asked for release of her companions, Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal. After the meeting she said it was "a very gracious gesture [and] … a very human encounter, very personal".

Finale someone standing up to obama/US's web of lies :lol:

[ForstAMoon]

[youtube:3n0isofd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8pvNTrUyKs[/youtube:3n0isofd]

[~Souza~]

We need more people like mr. Ahmadinejad to speak up about it, we need more pressure, because under pressure they will crack. The truth will come out and I think it will be sooner than later.

Now we are the ones under pressure, but it's better to know and fight for what is right, than to close your eyes and let all that is good, beautiful and true in this world disappear.

[jacilovesmichael]

"There's a time when you're RIGHT, and you know you must FIGHT"
(Who's laughin' baby? :lol: )

[nick_93]

Yeah I was looking around to see if this was posted anywhere. I saw on the news the Australian and American leaders walked out when Mr.Ahmadinejad was saying this. Can't handle the truth, perhaps?

[trublu]

Yeah I was looking around to see if this was posted anywhere. I saw on the news the Australian and American leaders walked out when Mr.Ahmadinejad was saying this. Can't handle the truth, perhaps?

But on the other hand about 100 did not walk out...

Mr.Ahmadinejad is a brave man.

[willddoMJ]

if anyone know any more videos about this, i like see them

[nick_93]

Yeah I was looking around to see if this was posted anywhere. I saw on the news the Australian and American leaders walked out when Mr.Ahmadinejad was saying this. Can't handle the truth, perhaps?

But on the other hand about 100 did not walk out...

Mr.Ahmadinejad is a brave man.

That's true.
It concerns me though being from Australia and considering out partnership with the USA. I wonder what the other world leaders thought of it....

[gwynned]

That Ahmadinejad made these remarks in the heart of NYC and in the middle of (his) enemy territory, says to me he's either got incredible chutzpah or he is not acting alone and there are powerful people behind him that prefer, for the moment, to remain behind the scenes.  Obama, in contrast, sounded weak and defensive.  Has anyone else noticed how things seem to be unravelling for the dark side?  The truth seems to be bursting to come out.

[PJ4MJ]

I'm sorry, but I will not jump on the bandwagon of praise for Ahmadinejad.  Mind you, when he speaks of the Zionist regime it sounds like he's talking about Illuminati, but he really means Isreal and the United States. (I realize that may not be an issue with some readers but then I would question their compassion for humanity.)  And he's not just talking about governments.  Unless I'm mistaken, he doesn't possess some special technology that will spare all the innocents once he gets the opportunity to wipe Isreal off the map.

He is a standard-bearer for hate and intolerance.  Just because he speaks out about a 9/11 conspiracy, he's a patriot?  A brave man?  He's fighting the good fight?  Talk about taking something out of context!  Let's see what else he believes:  The Holocaust is a myth and homosexuality does not exist in Iran.  Everybody on board with those insightful ideas?

We on this site claim to be unbiased.  We supposedly look at the whole picture.  We are enraged at how the general public accepted all the twisted lies and selective truths the media fed them about Michael Jackson.  People should have looked deeper; educated themselves.

Why are so many people willing to believe all the negative things about America, for instance?  Why does no one question these things on a deeper level?  Maybe because those things resonate with what they have come to believe about the U.S.  Things that were fed to them over time by the media.  In another thread on this forum someone posted that, in their country, Americans are portrayed as feeling superior.  They didn't believe all Americans felt that way; that's just how they're shown to the rest of the world.  Well, doesn't that scream media bias?  Hidden agenda?  When I asked what they thought the agenda might be, I never got a response.  America is an oppressor; the big bully on the block who throws its weight around.  I hear that all the time.  What about the charitable side of America?  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  Why doesn't that make the front page?  Someone else said that bad news sells. We all know this, but why does it sell?  There has to be someone willing to buy what's being sold.

We need to always try to get the whole picture, not just take what fits our paradigms.  When someone puts something forward, we need to look at what that person's motives are, what their position is, what they stand to gain from it.  Not just with Michael Jackson.  With everything.  With Ahmadinejad and his views of "Zion."  To think this man is on our side is to be sorely misguided.  He is on his side.  Forget about being scared of the United States.  If we start to think he is the representation of freedom and truth, we're all lost.


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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's anti-Semitic and anti-Israel views place him and the Iranian regime among the foremost threats to Jews and the state of Israel.
 
Ahmadinejad repeatedly demonizes the state of Israel and openly calls for its destruction at every opportunity. Most notoriously, he described Israel as a "fake regime" that "must be wiped off the map."

He termed Zionists "the most detested people in all humanity" and called the extermination of six million Jews during World War II "a myth," claiming that Jews have played up Nazi atrocities during the Holocaust in a bid to extort sympathy for Israel from European governments.
 
Ahmadinejad's virulently anti-Israel and anti-Semitic rhetoric and Holocaust denial are often matched by other Iranian leaders, and the Iranian regime itself has continued to sponsor anti-Zionism conferences and pseudo-academic lectures and exhibits questioning the fact of the Holocaust.
 
This report offers a selected, year-by-year compilation of Ahmadinejad's statements on Jews, the Holocaust and Israel in his own words.


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Ahmadinejad denies existence of gays in Iran.
In his speech at Columbia University today, Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was asked about the treatment of gays in Iran. Ahmadinejad responded, “In Iran, we dont have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country. In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don’t know who’s told you we have it.” Watch it:
[youtube:3gl3800a]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-sC26wpUGQ[/youtube:3gl3800a]
“Some international gay rights groups believe that more than 4,000 lesbians and gay men have been executed since the Ayatollahs seized power in 1979,” notes 365gay.com.

[gwynned]

I don't think we need to agree with Ahamdinejad on everything he does to appreciate what he said and did at the UN yesterday.  What a fucking bombshell that was!  How else could he or anyone else have brought to light in the US the possibility that our government is not benevolent and would go so far as to kill their own people to put forward an agenda solely for their own interests.  One might suggest that Ahmadinejad was doing the US public a favor by beginning to make public the nature of the reign of terror and error that we have been operating under.  

As far as Israel is concerned, one can be a friend of Israel and suggest that the government's current policies are suicidal, not unlike those of the US.

[Believe 777]

That Ahmadinejad made these remarks in the heart of NYC and in the middle of (his) enemy territory, says to me he's either got incredible chutzpah or he is not acting alone and there are powerful people behind him that prefer, for the moment, to remain behind the scenes.  Obama, in contrast, sounded weak and defensive.  Has anyone else noticed how things seem to be unravelling for the dark side?  The truth seems to be bursting to come out.

Yes I have noticed this too and it is becoming so obvious now and many more people should now start to see the darkness as it is being brought out into daylight. I also agree that for Ahmadinejad to come out like this and in such circumstances that he must have huge back-up. This would usually be classed as stupidity to challenge the dark side in such a direct and openly public way, but this is confidence rather than stupidity. This is coming out in a big way now and the snowball effect could happen quite quickly, lets wait and see but I feel that the bubble may just be about to burst.

[gwynned]

That Ahmadinejad made these remarks in the heart of NYC and in the middle of (his) enemy territory, says to me he's either got incredible chutzpah or he is not acting alone and there are powerful people behind him that prefer, for the moment, to remain behind the scenes.  Obama, in contrast, sounded weak and defensive.  Has anyone else noticed how things seem to be unravelling for the dark side?  The truth seems to be bursting to come out.

Yes I have noticed this too and it is becoming so obvious now and many more people should now start to see the darkness as it is being brought out into daylight. I also agree that for Ahmadinejad to come out like this and in such circumstances that he must have huge back-up. This would usually be classed as stupidity to challenge the dark side in such a direct and openly public way, but this is confidence rather than stupidity. This is coming out in a big way now and the snowball effect could happen quite quickly, lets wait and see but I feel that the bubble may just be about to burst.

I got chills just reading your comments.  I am so comforted by this.  One of the other recent breakthroughs came when Castro publicly suggested the explosion of a South Korean ship was an inside job.  The truth is coming from unexpected sources utilizing the element of surprise.  Hmmm......

[Serenitys_Dream]

Terrorism
The calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear

Israel came into existence through acts of terrorism by the Irgun, a Zionist terrorist organization.

The Israel Government is made up of Zionists.
Zionism is not the same as being Jewish.
Christian-Zionists are associated with the Israel Zionists.

Zionism - Is Political Arm not a Religion or an Ethnicity.



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Zionism is a movement founded by Theodor Herzl in 1896 whose goal is the return of Jews to Eretz Yisrael, or Zion, the Jewish synonym for Jerusalem and the Land of Israel.
The name of "Zionism" comes from the hill Zion, the hill on which the Temple of Jerusalem was situated.
Supporters of this movement are called "Zionists".
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The Jewish religion is the only one in the world that has been deemed a ethnicity, when in fact it is a Religion.

The Israel government continues to perpetuate terrorism on the Palestinian people.  

Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, is a holder of dual US-Israel citizenship. His father was a member of the Irgun terrorist organization. His brother, Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, is the top White House health care policy advisor. His other brother, Ari Emanuel, is an American talent agent, founder of the Endeavor Talent Agency in Beverly Hills, California, and now CEO of William Morris Endeavor Entertainment. Ari has been accused of making racist and anti-gay remarks in regards to Wesley Snipes playing a navy Seal in a film ("That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Everyone knows that blacks don’t swim") he settled the case for $2.25 million.

Ahmadinejad may very well be involved in the Illuminati scheme to create conflict, outrage and animosity. War is the plan, create instability in the world, kill people, keep division, separation and hatred in the forefront, bankrupt the US and eventually create a One world Government through the UN (incorporating the European Union, Asia-Pacific Union, African Union, and the  yet to be established American Union). Tread carefully in whom you put your faith in. The false left/right paradigm is a reality on an international level and all of this is manipulation to achieve the Elite's goals.

[MJonmind]

willddoMJ
Barack Obama made an angry personal attack on Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yesterday, saying claims by Iran's president that the United States carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks to prop up Israel were "hateful, offensive and inexcusable"...Obama described this as outrageous and disgusting: "Particularly for him to make the statement here in Manhattan, just a little north of Ground Zero, where families lost their loved ones, people of all faiths, all ethnicities who see this as the seminal tragedy of this generation; for him to make a statement like that was inexcusable."

I often find that whenever people use a lot of angry slamming words, it is to back up/intimidate without clear evidence or reasoning. Ahmadinejad usually speaks clearly, giving clear reasoning. Read some of his more detailed speeches. That's what you do when trying to present truth to people who by being in powerful or majority positions are clearly feeling superior.

PJ4MJ
I'm sorry, but I will not jump on the bandwagon of praise for Ahmadinejad. Mind you, when he speaks of the Zionist regime it sounds like he's talking about Illuminati, but he really means Isreal and the United States. (I realize that may not be an issue with some readers but then I would question their compassion for humanity.) And he's not just talking about governments. Unless I'm mistaken, he doesn't possess some special technology that will spare all the innocents once he gets the opportunity to wipe Isreal off the map.

He is a standard-bearer for hate and intolerance. Just because he speaks out about a 9/11 conspiracy, he's a patriot? A brave man? He's fighting the good fight? Talk about taking something out of context! Let's see what else he believes: The Holocaust is a myth and homosexuality does not exist in Iran. Everybody on board with those insightful ideas?

I've grown up in Conservative church circles where Israel and Jews can do no wrong. They're the chosen people (not) and we Christians are helping to usher in the end times and return of Christ. I was totally into that too for most of my life, until I started reading stuff from the other side of the story, and believe me there's a lot to read and rediscover about EVERYTHING. In fact that statement, "half of everything you see, hear, read was/is a lie." (misquote?...) is so true. On all topics you listed there IS another HUGE volume of evidence which differs and changes everything, but if you aren't willing to risk having the nice Israel bubble burst, then you will not know. The thing is that once you open that can and start investigating, one thing leads to another, and pretty soon the whole deck of cards we base our world history on, comes crashing down. Your eyes are truly opened. I'm not very good at writing the information, but I know what I've read, and other posters here have posted links to helpful articles to start examining.