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Nobody could affirm that he/she knows the real MJ. Nobody but his family and very close friends. And they would never tell us the truth...loyalty or just their own interest. What we know is that , after the Pepsi accident , a lot of very visible changes occured in the MJ's appearance : his lighter and lighter skin, his different behaviour, different height and even different smile , and more others( MJ began to use playback in concerts!!!)...but you already know all these, don't you?May be that was the moment when Michael decided to live a new life, the beginning of the hoax we are trying to solve now.
PJ4MJAs a whole, I think the article is a great example of how someone develops a theory and then subjectively chooses facts to support it while totally disregarding those that don't. To have an airtight theory, it must stand up to all scrutiny. Almost everything mentioned in this article does not.
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QuotePJ4MJAs a whole, I think the article is a great example of how someone develops a theory and then subjectively chooses facts to support it while totally disregarding those that don't. To have an airtight theory, it must stand up to all scrutiny. Almost everything mentioned in this article does not.I agree. I will give credit for an very organized well thought out article. But I don't think it can stand up to a more broadened scrutiny. I know the Illuminati/Crowley ideas and practises throughout the world particularly in the entertainment industry are well documented, including MJ in a certain sense. But it doesn't tell the whole story, about his possibly exposing and revealing and opposing them. Very subtle difference. This article is also coming from a totally orthodox Christian perspective, and since reading as I have into all the hidden lies mixed with truth in that world, there is more than one way to interpret things. I have been on a long journey, that has led me to believing we are in a drama/play created by God. There's the expression, "Half of everything we've learned/heard/seen is a lie" or something like that. I believe Michael has an important part to play, as we all have a part.About his voice, I remember in one interview some kid asked him and said his father said he had done something to make his voice so high, and MJ said he was a normal natural tenor. My sons have a friend who has an extremely high voice for speaking, but can easily for fun use a deep man's voice. Same as for Michael, as in the mayor's voice, he can at will change to the deeper tone. Obviously his voice in a relaxed state goes to the higher tone. I don't think it's that common, but it's not unnatural at all.The talk about 'automatic writing' could be the same for people inspired by God or the devil, so that whole argument is pointless. I have focused on the lyrics in We are the world, and the stones turned to bread, on one of my threads, since people only want to understand the Scriptures one way in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login . It is interesting that this writer calls white MJ a monster, and yet he dismantles his younger lyrics to be demonic as well, so what's the difference. He simply doesn't like MJ and has written him off, and is convinced of what he thinks. Don't confuse him with any other facts that differ. But MJ is not going anywhere and will continue to be loved the world over.I must admit the height differences in Michael's life so far have been confusing, but I don't rule out natural illusion because of shoe heels, camera angle, and his possible growth after Thriller. They showed a pic of him and Janet, but here's another one tha't slightly different, that shows perception can vary.[attachment=1:2ebgxjq3]MJ Janet.jpg[/attachment:2ebgxjq3][attachment=0:2ebgxjq3]MJ janet2.jpg[/attachment:2ebgxjq3]You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login On this clip where I took the top pic from, there is so much love between him and Janet, that I find hard to believe is all acting.So I would say, that the writer of the article is thinking outside the box of what the entertainment world may want the public to know, but is thinking inside the Christian world-view. This MJDHI site and elsewhere has taught us to think outside the box that this box is inside, if you know what I mean. Worlds within worlds within worlds. This whole MJ hoax is so MUCH more complex that any of us can even imagine. I'm feel like I'm being constantly stretched! :?
Quote from: "tiida11"Nobody could affirm that he/she knows the real MJ. Nobody but his family and very close friends. And they would never tell us the truth...loyalty or just their own interest. What we know is that , after the Pepsi accident , a lot of very visible changes occured in the MJ's appearance : his lighter and lighter skin, his different behaviour, different height and even different smile , and more others( MJ began to use playback in concerts!!!)...but you already know all these, don't you?May be that was the moment when Michael decided to live a new life, the beginning of the hoax we are trying to solve now.It's an interesting thought, particularly your closing statement. It does raise a few questions for me, though. If Michael wanted to live a new life after the Pepsi incident, I'm not sure he couldn't do just that without all the smoke and mirrors. Financially, he was well off and became even more so after buying the Sony/ATV catalog in 1985. He didn't have to tour; plenty of artists choose not to.I remember the Thriller days and yes, Michael was absolutely the biggest thing out there. But I think much of his mega-superstar status was cemented in the public's mind in the years that followed. I'm not saying he wasn't successful before Thriller - he clearly was. He's always had enormous talent. I just think the 1980's catapulted him to a whole different level and things grew exponentially from there. But I think that if, in 1985 after the Pepsi accident, he decided he was done and wanted to live a new life, he probably could have. I think the general public's desire to see the Thriller superstar in concert would have waned as new music and new pop stars hit the scene. The fans would have always been there; this I know. But many others would have moved on. Many did, anyway, despite the fact that Michael did not leave the spotlight and continued to innovate the world of music, dance, and entertainment.I hope you don't think I'm attacking your theory. I'm really not. It just got me thinking on some things and one of the thoughts I always seem to have is how difficult it is to imagine Michael Jackson NOT being "Michael Jackson," the mega-superstar. I watch the 1983 Motown 25 special where people in the audience are just sitting there, not clapping...or teenagers dancing on American Bandstand with Michael dancing to Shake Your Body only a few feet away. So I guess that's why I'd question if Michael really would have needed to create this hoax if he wanted to live a new life as early as back then. I tend to think the necessity for the hoax came because he stayed in the spotlight, grew ever more successful, and really became a threat to/target for the evil in this world. But who knows? As you so rightly say, none of us knows the real MJ, so this is all just speculation. I hope one day soon we both learn the truth. Peace.
Apologies if this is a wee bit OT but look on the previous page at the 2 photos of Mike with Janet where he's wearing the white jacket. Did he keep swapping jackets? Were these photos 2 different times? One has a black arm band and one does not? Just curious and interested.
Quote from: "nefari"Apologies if this is a wee bit OT but look on the previous page at the 2 photos of Mike with Janet where he's wearing the white jacket. Did he keep swapping jackets? Were these photos 2 different times? One has a black arm band and one does not? Just curious and interested.I see what you mean. It looks as though the armband was added or removed, the rest of the outfit is the same. While studying the photos though, I noticed Mike's hair is parted on different sides in both pics. Weird...
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"Quote from: "nefari"Apologies if this is a wee bit OT but look on the previous page at the 2 photos of Mike with Janet where he's wearing the white jacket. Did he keep swapping jackets? Were these photos 2 different times? One has a black arm band and one does not? Just curious and interested.I see what you mean. It looks as though the armband was added or removed, the rest of the outfit is the same. While studying the photos though, I noticed Mike's hair is parted on different sides in both pics. Weird...Plus Janet's red pin is placed on the opposite side of her blazer! Odd, odd, odd.
I understand your honesty in wanting to prove every theory right or wrong. But after all we've "examined" not leaving out GP threads, I believe he's alive, he's all there, he's the father of at least 3 kids, he may have doubles to stand in for whatever purposes, I don't believe the fire incident was as serious as made out to be (considering videos doing the same thing without harm) and may have been for show purposes, he has a naturally high voice which can go deep at his will, he has a slender but ripped frame as lots of guys do.About the pics of MJ and Janet, one pic is reversed because even Janet's insignia on her jacket is reversed. So that solves that.This is NOT a feminine or emasculated body.[attachment=0:1z65i26m]wow%5B1%5D[1].jpg[/attachment:1z65i26m]