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Quote from: "tekamjforever"Quote from: "bec"QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?We should not simply ignore "evidence" or information related to other possibilities (suicide, homicide ,...) because they could be crucial, independently teoira. QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.I think many of us still have hopes for the hoax at the expense of estudoss TIAI / TS. IMO, his arguments are interesting but not entirely confiávies, because whenever something new happens in that it reinforces the idea that Michael is dead, our hope disappears almost immediately. The next step is the withdrawal of many of us, as has been happening. Well, finally, I think the TS sends us many questions, I honestly can not answer ... I think we should get the answers according to what he thinks, believes and trusts, instead of sending us the questions complex. It would be very good to us this way.Ok, then please disregard everything I said ... sorry my english ... bye.I don't want to disregard it, I want to understand it. That's why I posted. Try again?
Quote from: "bec"QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?We should not simply ignore "evidence" or information related to other possibilities (suicide, homicide ,...) because they could be crucial, independently teoira. QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.I think many of us still have hopes for the hoax at the expense of estudoss TIAI / TS. IMO, his arguments are interesting but not entirely confiávies, because whenever something new happens in that it reinforces the idea that Michael is dead, our hope disappears almost immediately. The next step is the withdrawal of many of us, as has been happening. Well, finally, I think the TS sends us many questions, I honestly can not answer ... I think we should get the answers according to what he thinks, believes and trusts, instead of sending us the questions complex. It would be very good to us this way.Ok, then please disregard everything I said ... sorry my english ... bye.
QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?We should not simply ignore "evidence" or information related to other possibilities (suicide, homicide ,...) because they could be crucial, independently teoira. QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.
Well, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally.
I think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?:
Quote from: "Its her"Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread, because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll: :oops: they have :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out. :mrgreen: 1] In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter :lol: to produce autopsy forms. 2] Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. :lol: 3] The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.:? 4] On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ. :? A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST :mrgreen: of the given hoax clues are obvious OVERKILL. 8-) 8-) FIFTY pages of an AR is classic :lol: :lol: MJ OVERKILL. As MJ would say, "Is THAT scary for ya, Baby :?: " :lol: 5] There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times, :lol: reads more like all of these, mixed in: a legal brief, a police report, a coroner's report, and specialist consults which are done on living hospital guests, UPSTAIRS---not in the morgue. Nothing which does not pertain to the dissected body ever appears in, or under the heading, "AR". NOTHING about what was found at the scene, or the condition of the scene would ever be in the AUTOPSY report :!: :roll: 6] ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and proably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok, :arrow: someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital :x liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. :roll: 7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones). There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, our dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P... You know what? I wanna thank you because you didn't debunk the report to me at all, but you did help me understand how come that some folks are so sure about things. It's about how deep we look into things, about what things we choose to "look too much into" and what "too little", as if they weren't here. Look at this: it's very easy, plausible and legal to get a dead body or that a lot of people are in on the hoax, but too weird and crazy that an Autopsy Report has 50 pages, or that has been typed up in a typewriter. Know what I mean?I hope it doesn't sound sarcastic, because it's no at all. Thanks a lot!
Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread, because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll: :oops: they have :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out. :mrgreen: 1] In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter :lol: to produce autopsy forms. 2] Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. :lol: 3] The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.:? 4] On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ. :? A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST :mrgreen: of the given hoax clues are obvious OVERKILL. 8-) 8-) FIFTY pages of an AR is classic :lol: :lol: MJ OVERKILL. As MJ would say, "Is THAT scary for ya, Baby :?: " :lol: 5] There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times, :lol: reads more like all of these, mixed in: a legal brief, a police report, a coroner's report, and specialist consults which are done on living hospital guests, UPSTAIRS---not in the morgue. Nothing which does not pertain to the dissected body ever appears in, or under the heading, "AR". NOTHING about what was found at the scene, or the condition of the scene would ever be in the AUTOPSY report :!: :roll: 6] ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and proably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok, :arrow: someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital :x liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. :roll: 7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones). There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, our dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P...
Quote from: "mjj29081958"Quote from: "Its her"Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread, because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll: :oops: they have :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out. :mrgreen: 1] In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter :lol: to produce autopsy forms. 2] Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. :lol: 3] The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.:? 4] On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ. :? A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST :mrgreen: of the given hoax clues are obvious OVERKILL. 8-) 8-) FIFTY pages of an AR is classic :lol: :lol: MJ OVERKILL. As MJ would say, "Is THAT scary for ya, Baby :?: " :lol: 5] There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times, :lol: reads more like all of these, mixed in: a legal brief, a police report, a coroner's report, and specialist consults which are done on living hospital guests, UPSTAIRS---not in the morgue. Nothing which does not pertain to the dissected body ever appears in, or under the heading, "AR". NOTHING about what was found at the scene, or the condition of the scene would ever be in the AUTOPSY report :!: :roll: 6] ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and proably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok, :arrow: someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital :x liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. :roll: 7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones). There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, our dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P... You know what? I wanna thank you because you didn't debunk the report to me at all, but you did help me understand how come that some folks are so sure about things. It's about how deep we look into things, about what things we choose to "look too much into" and what "too little", as if they weren't here. Look at this: it's very easy, plausible and legal to get a dead body or that a lot of people are in on the hoax, but too weird and crazy that an Autopsy Report has 50 pages, or that has been typed up in a typewriter. Know what I mean?I hope it doesn't sound sarcastic, because it's no at all. Thanks a lot!No, not at all. You are welcome. It doesn't matter if I convinced you or not. I am convinced, and that's why I didn't post it MONTHs ago. I looked into this for my self, so that I could move on to something relevant, and simply forgot about sharing it. It wasn't to cram it in anyone's faces as the be all, end all of Truth. There are "Facts" and then, there is the Truth. We all are investigating things presented as Fact, in order to get to the Truth. There are MANY liars on earth. And, too, there are people who will not believe their own eyes when the Truth is presented, speaking the truth out of his own mouth. I mean, when MJ does reappear, even if he reappears looking EXACTLY as he did when he left us (which I seriously doubt----) there WILL be people who just will :roll: not be able to bring themselves to see it. :arrow: After all, he and his lawyers and the court, couldn't STILL convince SOME that he was NOT GUILTY of child molestation and freakdom!!! :x :evil: :roll: So, certainly he will be JUST as unable to convince SOME folk that he NEVER died. Just the way it is. And this is very dangerous for him, as there is always SOME loser who can't take being duped and needs to see personally, his blood running out, to believe. It may come to be that he will decide that this is NOT worth the risk, and simply NEVER tell the world he did not die. But some of us, here, KNOW, and once you know, nothing else matters. It would actually be more of a mysterious historical conundrum, to leave most of the world GUESSING FOREVER :lol: , & never be certain, sort of like the Oak Island Mystery.... :lol: Oh, please do not say it! :cry: :cry: {Living and staying alive is way better, Mikey. I wouldn't blame you.}
QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.
Quote from: "bec"QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.We are so determined to prove that MJ is alive that anyone who discusses or presents information against our beliefs is attacked. We should be able to intelligently and politely discuss all motives whether they are uncomfortable to us or not.It seems as though we've become a little too dependent on TS feeding us information (and TMZ), not really being told directly what the true motives and beliefs are".This is my shortened interpretation and I agree.Thanks, voiceforthesilent, that's what I meant.It's Her - thank you for your interpretation of the AR. Do you have experience in the field?
Quote from: "bec"QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.We are so determined to prove that MJ is alive that anyone who discusses or presents information against our beliefs is attacked. We should be able to intelligently and politely discuss all motives whether they are uncomfortable to us or not.It seems as though we've become a little too dependent on TS feeding us information (and TMZ), not really being told directly what the true motives and beliefs are".This is my shortened interpretation and I agree.It's Her - thank you for your interpretation of the AR. Do you have experience in the field?
I agree that the beauty of a forum like this is that we get to see a whole myriad of ‘colors’ in the different personalities and perspectives. What I don’t agree with is that it is ever ‘ok’ to dismiss someone, or say an unkind word, or be rude. Is it difficult at times to keep emotions at bay? Of course. Am I perfect? Far from it...I am probably the least ‘perfect’ here. But that doesn’t mean that we should just accept violence because we haven’t learned to overcome it.I’m not sure if any of you have ever heard, or read, Krishnamurti (he is the gentleman who you see giving a speech at the beginning of Zeitgeist). He is someone whom I admire tremendously and who stands as a prime example of “one of the greats” that everyone should “study”. There are plenty of youtube videos of him, as well as a wealth of books by him, for anyone interested. Here’s a quote from him about violence:“Violence is not merely killing another. It is violence when we use a sharp word, when we make a gesture to brush away a person, when we obey because there is fear. So violence isn’t merely organized butchery in the name of God, in the name of society or country. Violence is much more subtle, much deeper...”I am in no way suggesting that anyone should be a ‘doormat’ and have people walk all over them. There will always be people that come at you or try to disturb your peace of mind. But there are ways of getting your point(s) across without resorting to ridicule, dismissal, and/or rudeness. In fact, it takes much more strength of character to rise above anger than to give in to it. How are we supposed to ‘change the world’ or ‘make that change’ if we cannot even remain respectful on a forum (no less dedicated to a man who stood for peace)? As for building an army...if I were the one building it...I would much rather have soldiers that do not ‘react’ in anger as soon as the wind changes direction...because they may inadvertently shoot the one(s) whom they are trying to defend.With L.O.V.E. always.
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"Quote from: "bec"QuoteWell, I do not see here as a process of a "game", but as a process of "research" to discover, or at least get closer to the truth about what happened with MJ, though the site / forum is premised the farce.:? This process of "research" involves the sharing of ideas and discoveries, questions and opinions. But as the hoax is just one possibility among others (suicide, homicide ,..)... they can not or should not be discarded simply. If our actions or reactions are based only on the possibility of fraud, we will keep going in circles, literally. Hows that then? We shouldn't disregard debunked theories in the course of our research? Then why are we researching? What's the point?QuoteI think the line TIAI / TS is useful for (most) of us as a hope, but at the same time, their arguments are flawed, because if there is some indication that reinforces the idea that MJ really died almost immediately that the hope is canceled, as has been happening. Well, these arguments are framed by a science (?) - Numerology, based on supposed "clues", tips, coincidences, symbolism and other events or situations in life and work of MJ and also attitudes and behaviors of family, media and other means, directly or indirectly, are or have been involved. Then, the TS sends us to choose the alternatives that are supposedly more likely to have been a hoax, but I think most of us would feel safer if also aware of the choices and beliefs of the person TS ... not only give us the task or the challenge of finding the answer yourself. :roll: :?: :?: :?: :?: I didn't understand a word you said.We are so determined to prove that MJ is alive that anyone who discusses or presents information against our beliefs is attacked. We should be able to intelligently and politely discuss all motives whether they are uncomfortable to us or not.It seems as though we've become a little too dependent on TS feeding us information (and TMZ), not really being told directly what the true motives and beliefs are".This is my shortened interpretation and I agree.It's Her - thank you for your interpretation of the AR. Do you have experience in the field?This so called TS , I started reading it, untill I got to the reference he made to Alex Joans, who I realized 3 years ago was nothing but a loud mouthed fear mongering war mongering ahole, who riles the people up to suit his agenda and then hides behind them and laughs all the way to the bank. Anyone, in my opinion, who references Alex Joans is just grabbing whatever information he can, anywhere he can, and feeding it to us in the hopes that no one will look into it too deeply.And who is he anyway, we just blindly follow this guy without question, but hey, COTW comes here, wont reveal who he is, and is run off. That my friends is called a double standard,I;m calling out this TS to reveal themselves or risk losing all crediblity, its shit or get off the damn pot time.TS if you have any balls at all you;ll let the people on this forum know who you really are and quit screwin around with people, its not a game anymore.And to all who want to tear this apart, go ahead, its my opinion and I stand by it, I;m a big girl.
This so called TS , I started reading it, untill I got to the reference he made to Alex Joans, who I realized 3 years ago was nothing but a loud mouthed fear mongering war mongering ahole, who riles the people up to suit his agenda and then hides behind them and laughs all the way to the bank. Anyone, in my opinion, who references Alex Joans is just grabbing whatever information he can, anywhere he can, and feeding it to us in the hopes that no one will look into it too deeply.And who is he anyway, we just blindly follow this guy without question, but hey, COTW comes here, wont reveal who he is, and is run off. That my friends is called a double standard,I;m calling out this TS to reveal themselves or risk losing all crediblity, its shit or get off the damn pot time.TS if you have any balls at all you;ll let the people on this forum know who you really are and quit screwin around with people, its not a game anymore.And to all who want to tear this apart, go ahead, its my opinion and I stand by it, I;m a big girl.
