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I have been reading anything that callofthewild has posted since they joined in July. I think he's male and obviously well read and eloquent in speech. . For me, this thread's drama has been rivitting and has had me glued to the screen. Every ARG needs a little manipulation at times or we would never get to see and experience all the wonderfully colourful responses such a situation exposes us to. Are you watching Mike? It's game time. But I do believe we children should play nice.
I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out? :roll:
Quote from: "RK"I have been reading anything that callofthewild has posted since they joined in July. I think he's male and obviously well read and eloquent in speech. . For me, this thread's drama has been rivitting and has had me glued to the screen. Every ARG needs a little manipulation at times or we would never get to see and experience all the wonderfully colourful responses such a situation exposes us to. Are you watching Mike? It's game time. But I do believe we children should play nice.I think we should play nice too. Don't get me wrong because I love the color each poster has provided but I think we've been like bullies on the school ground. I have to wonder why this callofthewild needs to identify him/herself? Would you believe him/her more if he/she said he/she was Jermaine or LMP? Would you treat this person differently? If you said yes, then shame on you because we should treat everyone the same. My thought is that no amount of convincing would sway your immediate judgment of whether this person is legit or not.Also, I do believe this person found this site by accident. I did. And wanting to post a comment is what got me to sign up. This is the first forum I've ever participated in and probably the last. It's not my thing. I never intended to spend almost every day for over a year on this forum but I have. It drew me in and I think that is what happened to callofthewild. How unfortunate that we may not ever know who this person really is.Just a thought based on my own personality. I have been labeled by others in my field as being emotionally stabile and while I do have moments of frustration I am never out of control. I've never been called bitchy. I've never been called rude, crude, or mean. When we call ourselves these things it's an excuse for our bad behavior. Behavior that can be changed. Please know that I have grown to love you all but it's never okay to excuse bad behavior no matter who is on the receiving end. It's like allowing your child to throw the temper tantrum and standing by thinking it's okay when it's not.Finally - the best way to find out if someone is legit is the test of time. Let a person talk and if that person is legit what they say will come through solid. If they aren't legit their words will start to show cracks in the foundation of their stories. Never do we need to call a person a liar. The liar will be found out by their speech all on their own. Please, let's learn a little patience and treat every guest as though they are family instead of like the pack of hungry vultures out to eat their young. Thank you for listening. You are valued and appreciated.
Quote from: "Jude"I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out? :roll:Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "Jude"I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out? :roll:Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..I don't need to read it again to know that if something don't suit certain members, and anyone who might have a little different view, not just this thread, then they are shit on, run out, and run over. I'm beginning to understand how and why Mike was treated the way he was because he had a different view of things, no different here, exact same thing.
Quote from: "Jude"Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "Jude"I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out? :roll:Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..I don't need to read it again to know that if something don't suit certain members, and anyone who might have a little different view, not just this thread, then they are shit on, run out, and run over. I'm beginning to understand how and why Mike was treated the way he was because he had a different view of things, no different here, exact same thing.Don't start with the MJ remarks- I think you do need to read it again to see that not everyone told this member to get out- everyone has different opinions here and it's up to them and them only to care about however many people disagree rudely and loudly or even tell them to get out, because there's no law here restricting what can be said. The powers that be have always been out to get MJ and purposefully twisted what he said and did in the public's eye- it is not that way here, even if some people are overly rude.
Quote from: "Its her"A final thought, for you to sleep on: if the autopsy IS, in fact, ANY which way Michael Jackson's body, he did not survive it, and we are all wasting time, investigating ANY thing, but his murder. I don't waste time easily. And God knows the police need all the help they can get. And, say...who is driving this "Hoaxed Hoax", and for what purpose? :| Later. Yeah, sure. But we will not know if we are wasting time or not, unless we debunk, and I mean REALLY debunk everything (not just the AR, of course), and I think we are still far away of this… but I guess what is enough/trustful/proof/evidence/fact/plausible/far fetched for some, is not for everyone, right?.Quote from: "Its her"Hello, No I don't mind helping a confused soul out, at all . Except, right now it is three hours past my bedtime here and I can barely keep my eyes open :cry: . It's been so long since I read that thing...I will take another look at the AR tomorrow, and get back with you, OK? I don't know if the Forum came to the same conclusion collectively---and I don't remember if I posted my opinion.[ If the thread gets very cylindrically argumentative, I exit, and I certainly don't mean to start something feisty, just to create more circular controversy...]I seem to remember that most folk on the thread ONLY wanted to dissect the juicy details of the AR (the mention of MJ's sexual apparatus being fully functional ---omg !!!!!) and not the facts that discredited it (such as that sex organ functionality or fertility would not usually even BE itemized in an autopsy !!!!!!!! The AR usually simply states "normal, 50 yr old, black male", with various remarkable measurements and weights of internal organs, and notations of unusual marks or scars or tattoos, and evidence of disease or injuries past or pertinent to the death. There would also be mention of drugs---but it would be in a separate report, from Toxicology...) As I also recall, we got into a 5 page :roll: loop about whether or not MJ smoked. :roll: :lol: :lol: . And nothing I said mattered, so...sometimes it is better to post another day...I will take a look tomorrow. Oh no It's okay, you don't have to do so, I really mean it. I thought it was some kind of analysis you already posted somewhere else, that's why I was interested on take a look. Thanks anyway, you’re very kind!
A final thought, for you to sleep on: if the autopsy IS, in fact, ANY which way Michael Jackson's body, he did not survive it, and we are all wasting time, investigating ANY thing, but his murder. I don't waste time easily. And God knows the police need all the help they can get. And, say...who is driving this "Hoaxed Hoax", and for what purpose? :| Later.
Hello, No I don't mind helping a confused soul out, at all . Except, right now it is three hours past my bedtime here and I can barely keep my eyes open :cry: . It's been so long since I read that thing...I will take another look at the AR tomorrow, and get back with you, OK? I don't know if the Forum came to the same conclusion collectively---and I don't remember if I posted my opinion.[ If the thread gets very cylindrically argumentative, I exit, and I certainly don't mean to start something feisty, just to create more circular controversy...]I seem to remember that most folk on the thread ONLY wanted to dissect the juicy details of the AR (the mention of MJ's sexual apparatus being fully functional ---omg !!!!!) and not the facts that discredited it (such as that sex organ functionality or fertility would not usually even BE itemized in an autopsy !!!!!!!! The AR usually simply states "normal, 50 yr old, black male", with various remarkable measurements and weights of internal organs, and notations of unusual marks or scars or tattoos, and evidence of disease or injuries past or pertinent to the death. There would also be mention of drugs---but it would be in a separate report, from Toxicology...) As I also recall, we got into a 5 page :roll: loop about whether or not MJ smoked. :roll: :lol: :lol: . And nothing I said mattered, so...sometimes it is better to post another day...I will take a look tomorrow.
Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread, because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll: :oops: they have :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out. :mrgreen:
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "Jude"Quote from: "PinkTopaz"Quote from: "Jude"I can't believe the guy/girl has been run off like that,saying hes full of shit, what is this, conform or be cast out? :roll:Oh, come on, maybe you should read the thread again if you haven't, the person that said "full of shit" explained and apologized, and it's been shown why COTW is not in on the hoax, regardless of whether he knows MJ or not- by the way, I sure couldn't stand that smug smirking "I type this with a smile of knowing while you baboons grovel in your heap of loony nonsense " attitude he brought with him.. I do agree that some remarks were unnecessarily rude and trying to "run him off", but he obviously had nothing useful to add to the hoax and I intensely doubt that he knew him..I don't need to read it again to know that if something don't suit certain members, and anyone who might have a little different view, not just this thread, then they are shit on, run out, and run over. I'm beginning to understand how and why Mike was treated the way he was because he had a different view of things, no different here, exact same thing.Don't start with the MJ remarks- I think you do need to read it again to see that not everyone told this member to get out- everyone has different opinions here and it's up to them and them only to care about however many people disagree rudely and loudly or even tell them to get out, because there's no law here restricting what can be said. The powers that be have always been out to get MJ and purposefully twisted what he said and did in the public's eye- it is not that way here, even if some people are overly rude.Where in my post does it say EVERYONE? And what MJ remark exactly?
Ok. I am going to post a couple of thoughts over on the Official Autopsy Thread, because I see that I never did share what debunks the PDF I read, for ME. But I can quickly tell you here, what it is that makes it bogus. It may save you some time investigating, needlessly...And, I don't need to debunk EVERYthing to discredit ALL of it. It only takes one fly(knowing what :roll: :oops: they have :? on their feets :shock: ) in my drink to throw the entire drink out. :mrgreen: 1] In the year 2009, I am confident that NO government agency uses a typewriter :lol: to produce autopsy forms. 2] Equally convinced that not even a COUNTY government agency would still be using official forms which were last revised in 1995. :lol: 3] The amount of pages (over 50) is suspect. Most ARs are no more than 6 pages---including Tox report and brain pathology report. The individual is dead--they list a couple of main contributing illnesses or injuries, and it really doesn't matter that they had evidences of 40 other illnesses or diseases.:? 4] On that subject, just ONE lung disease would have prevented MJ from raising three young children, performing grueling rehearsals for a concert tour, or making the movie, TII, which we all investigated---unless someone doesn't think the star of TII was MJ. :? A hoaxed death requires a hoaxed report to give people something to do. MOST :mrgreen: of the given hoax clues are obvious OVERKILL. 8-) 8-) FIFTY pages of an AR is classic :lol: :lol: MJ OVERKILL. As MJ would say, "Is THAT scary for ya, Baby :?: " :lol: 5] There is information in the autopsy report which is NOT autopsy (findings from a dead body)report, and, at times, :lol: reads more like all of these, mixed in: a legal brief, a police report, a coroner's report, and specialist consults which are done on living hospital guests, UPSTAIRS---not in the morgue. Nothing which does not pertain to the dissected body ever appears in, or under the heading, "AR". NOTHING about what was found at the scene, or the condition of the scene would ever be in the AUTOPSY report :!: :roll: 6] ALL catheters, tubes, pic lines, appliances, eyeglasses, hearing aids, dressings, etc., etc., are always removed prior to the trip to the morgue or mortuary. According to the story, MJ's body was "worked on" at the hospital, and proably intubated at one point, while they tried all chemical things to reverse the guy's problems. (Even after a routine surgery which goes amok, :arrow: someone is assigned the task of removing all possible evidence of hospital :x liability; drainage hoses, breathing tubes, introvenous lines and even fresh--clean-- catheters.) So, the mere mention of finding these things in a body which had been treated at the hospital makes this report a lie. :roll: 7] I'll combine these two things, for the sake of time: there was NO mention at all of any plastic surgeries or any injuries to his nose---which he reportedly BROKE prior to his very first nose job, and NO mention of --I can't remember---either a broken leg or broken foot, he experienced in the late 90s, I believe (not certain of the year, just certain of the broken bones). There is more, but...this is QUITE enough, to establish that something is very wrong about this report, and that it is not even from this decade, let alone, in particular, our dear 50 year old Michael Jackson, K.O.P...
