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[MJonmind]

Yes, that's why we have the Liquor Comission, meat inspectors, milk inspectors, government run casinos, and a million other regulators officially supposedly keeping the product clean, consistent and safe for the public consumer. And of course they make a tidy profit on all of that being channeled through them.  And we don't know what else they have up their sleeves--for examples the GMO foods and the Monsanto monopoly--leading to the fear that their goal is prevent the world from growing anything but their seed--leading to starvation.  Good things in the start that become slippery slopes.

Its Her, thanks for your interesting and as usual flamboyant answer!

So they are calling it (mj) that (Tree of Life) out of sheer awe.

SimPattyK!  ;) ;)  She must NEVER sleep

Was that an order for her to keep working?  :icon_mad:  :icon_lol:  Or speculation on her hours of research? :icon_cry:
What would we do without her brilliant visual dot connecting extraordinaire?!  Simpa, just don't try propofol okay?

RK

Sorry to but in here, but I met a mad man once when I had first become a christian that was convinced that 'the plant' was the tree of life spoken about for the healing of the nations. He also swore black and blue that our then Premier, Joe Bjelkie Petersen was the antichrist. But the creepiest thing was that he took to his own leg with an axe. He said that he had to do it because of that scripture...if thine eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. He ended up an amputee. I was terrified of this poor man back then  and would cross the road to avoid having to talk to him.

:icon_eek: :icon_e_sad: :thjajaja121:

[suspicious mind]

so we are almost 3 years into this thing and ..... to my knowledge......  no one ....connected to michael exclaimed .........
poor michael this never would have had to happen if only he would have been able to have pot legally.....

geez louise can we say overkill  :icon_rolleyes:

It is very possible, especially if one of the purposes for the Hoax is to clean up MJ's rumor and prejudice tarnished image, that he did not WANT to be connected to an illegal recreational drug. Prescriptions, while even more evil and dangerous, are more widely accepted as necessary and even prestigious, and anyway, can be ALL made to go away at the end of the Hoax, when he comes back and EVERYTHING is shown to be over the top LIES, or everything and everybody which can be stung, IS.  :Crash:

But, marijuana needs new press and education. That is a lot, because it is illegal and that automatically makes people who consider themselves upstanding citizens, easily, without question, choose to be against it. Maybe connecting it to a very upstanding scientific or medical organization, for a "Halo effect" would help, instead of only the wooly masses, or anarchists "smoking themselves silly for fun", clamoring for it.

You see? Weed has SUCH a bad rap itself, rethinking this, I would expect a genius choosing his battles carefully to step over that one, at least this time. :icon_e_ugeek: :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red

We don't NEED him or a hoax to change the way people view weed. It is do-able at the WE THE PEOPLE level, in America. Collecting a million signatures (It may only be half that, and it's only a fifth of that for just one state), to get it on the ballot isn't fun, but well, how bad do we need to have a viable safe alternative to the typical cancer treatments in use today?? Changing what people think is the hardest thing, but changing what they see is not. EVERYONE knows someone disfigured by surgery, chemo and radiation, AND who STILL has the cancer creepily spreading its ugly deformed mess in other places on the same "medically treated" body, if they are still alive. Maybe just another year and even "good" upstanding people will become mad as hell, begin to hope in the real cure, and free it for common, legal use.  :beerchug:

that is another aspect of this whole thing that everyone seems to be overlooking imo is the hard reality that sometimes genious can't tie their own damn shoes!!!!!!!

[SimPattyK]

@It'sHer: I LOVED your posts! you're great!!! Love you sis'!  :bearhug:

Thank You, SimPattyK!
Oh, I am just ranting my frustrations...YOU are finding some AMAZING things!!!! WOWEE!  :icon_bounce: All those bubbleweed references and mojo and lollipops. At least ten or more things connected directly to Hoax. My jaw was just  :o :o :o when we got all kinds of "denial". You found way more connections than I EVER even imagined!! Co-incidence shmo-incidence. :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121: What the heck??????????????
Makes ya THINK, huh.  :icon_e_surprised: :icon_geek:

You guys are just two examples of the great, great minds here...truly.  I love how you guys express yourself and create images that make me think....I am a very, very visual learner and person in general.  I admit, sometimes, I get very tired of reading the long posts from people......not that I don't love them, literally my eyes start feeling weird.  However, the visuals that Sim does really does help.  I can look at them and my eyes don't freak out as much......
the information you and others bring to light each and every day has been magnificent.  I truly find myself in awe post after post......Souza, brilliant forum here.....btw....did you see my Amsterdam reply?  I would love to see your city some day for the art and the history.....amazing!!!!
Have a most beautiful evening/day! Blessings to all......

:affraid: :bowdown: Wishingstar, you are just too nice! I always wanted to be a 'Great Mind' but have had to settle for the picking of others'  :thjajaja121:!!!! I AM learning tons of stuff, a VERY visual learner, myself (!) just from hanging out with the clever and well read people HERE, but it is so heartwarming to be included with some great minds, like SimPattyK!  ;) ;) She must NEVER sleep--always tick-tock-ticking and finding all kinds of connections to thousands of things we never knew in this Hoax. Those clothing montages and thread    were downright spooky!  :affraid: I mean, MJ MUST have planned how and when like clothes were worn for big days in the Hoax, but for SimPattyK to have gleaned these from all kinds of time periods, it's impossible and AMAZING, to me. :th_bravo: And to throw Elvis in the mix with like clothing and costumes...ohmiGOSH! I am SHOCKED at the similarites that keep coming up. I'm going to post something about him when I figure out where to post it. But thank you so much for being so sweet, including me in such a prestigious group :woohoo2:. I think I have more of a tabloid :affraid: mind--
"INQUIRING, and I WANT TO KNOW!  :Crash:  :screaming-7365: RIGHT NOW!"  :thjajaja121:

And Back's and Front's numbers "made" me feel like the Village :-[ Idiot, so I treasure your kind and generous words!!! :-* ;D

Aaawww! @Wishy & @It'sHer: I can't even start to tell you the joy I'm feeling every-time I read you both.
I want to tell you that everything you wrote about me is exactly how I feel about you too!

I am so happy you love my findings. If I made connections, some more or less relevant than others, I want you to know that that most of those connections, especially the recent ones, are the result of our fruitful, constructive discussions, both on the forum and in private. And what I say here, is available also for MjonMind and BTC.
I feel like we're a TEAM !!! really!! I am fully aware that I wouldn't have gotten here with my research and findings if it weren't for all of you!

I know this might sound a bit restrictive to other members of this forum. Please don't interpret it that way. I do like you and appreciate you all and I enjoy being here, all of you are great, each in unique special way, you all contribute greatly to this incredible adventure and I feel proud and privileged to be a part of this together with all of you!

Regarding what I said above... It's  simply a FACT that I cannot ignore !! and I need to SCREAM it out loud! Otherwise I would feel like being ungrateful to these 4 wonderful fairy-friends , that have always inspired me, mesmerized me with their lovely and mind blowing comments, ever since I arrived on this forum. Not to mention their encouragements !! PLUS: I've never related so MUCH with anyone ever before! In terms of so many things shared in common to the point where I freaked out sometimes at how telepathy works between us! It's crazy how so many times we manage to think exactly the same and express entire lines of thoughts exactly in the same way the other one would! I've never experienced such MIND - READING with anyone ever before! and much less with 4 people !! You'll have forever my gratitude, respect and love  :bearhug:
I think that in 90% of the cases we could say we're each other's archetype!  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: just joking!! But really... after years, when I'll remember my time spent on this forum, I think THIS ^^ will be the most powerful memory I'll have!

Now on-topic loll
Might this be a clue we have missed at that time? ---- > TIAI January 7

[SimPattyK]

SimPattyK!  ;) ;)  She must NEVER sleep

Was that an order for her to keep working?  :icon_mad:  :icon_lol:  Or speculation on her hours of research? :icon_cry:
What would we do without her brilliant visual dot connecting extraordinaire?!  Simpa, just don't try propofol okay?

lmao  :thjajaja121:

@It'sHer is right!! Lately I've been missing sleep-hours, but boy... OH BOY!! what I've gained in exchange!! priceless!
I wish I didn't need to sleep in order to function loll
But who can sleep when there's so many things to read about and time is as if nonexistent! Time is really my biggest enemy right NOW!

I am tired, I can feel tiredness, physically, but mentally I feel like a V8 engine!
Now I will take a slower rhythm and get more rest... I am at a stage where I have gathered a lot of info in my head and on my pc... info that needs to lay for a while so that I can make a path through it.... In other words "let it simmer" a bit more! loll So I stop digging for now... now I will try to catch up with answering messages and reading threads here that I haven't had time to read lately...

@MjonMind: lmao  :icon_lol: You can be tranquil about that. The only drug I know is MUSIC, that's how I go to sleep, that's how I wake up loll

LOVE you guys!  :bearhug:

[PureLove]

Guys please just remember that we have 14-15 year old kids on the forum. I respect all of your opinions but just remember that they can find encouragement in your posts to smoke weeds.

Then it most likely wasn't pure weed.

He was growing the weed himself, so it was pure weed.

Wow. I am sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience! I don't know what else may have been going on, because I don't know what else was in the weed you obtained, or what, if any prescriptions you were taking at the same time.

You didn't experience ALL of the effects in the list, because weed has never DAMAGED any brains, lungs or throats or body systems, and actually someone who has an illness exchanging gases in the lungs hadn't ought to be SMOKING  :affraid: anything! It probably needs to be used with a vaporizer or as cupcakes, and not as a joint, for lung sensitive folks. I only know what people tell me, including you, and even people with asthma are very happy with it. :) I don't know what happened with you, unless you got the weed mixed with any of the things unscrupulous people mix it with to make more profit :Crash:. When it is legal it will be safer. :icon_e_smile:

:icon_arrow: It's possible you COULD be allergic to it or something added to it.  :confused: One sign of an allergy to a FOOD is a very rapid pulse, so it was probably not the body friendly natural THC, etc., in the weed. The herb "sage" is another all healing wonder, but some people are just allergic to it. :icon_e_confused:

Allergies are a tricky business. You can die suddenly, so they are nothing to fool with. They are also a BIG business  :Crash:. There used to be a genius and compassionate doctor who cured peoples' long time allergies, by rethinking what Histamine was FOR, in the human body. He couldn't believe that something God made the body produce would go so backwards in the body and kill people, and he was right. He was the guy with the Water Cure. Unfortunately, he was killed in 2004 after helping billions of people.  :'( :-\ :-\ :-\

There is a pill form of synthetic THC which is prescribed by medical doctors which is mostly useless if you ask around, and dangerous, because it is a doctored=ruined  :icon_mad: form of THC. Prescriptions are ALL toxins of various degrees, all by themselves.

The naturally growing, God-made plant nutrientS IN the natural state are perfectly  :icon_e_surprised: balanced with human physiology, especially receptors in the brain, lungs, liver and gut. It is a whole package. It is like this was purposely designed for US! Marijuana has been clinically given to EVEN people with the aforementioned pre-existing/pre-ingestion issues (anxiety, aggression, lethargy, and indecisiveness) without making these worse. It's not a cure ALL; it won't make one a self starter if one is decidedly lazy. It won't raise one's IQ who is lethargic and disinterested in applying himself to learning. It's not magic and it may not be for everyone. Please don't use it at all, then, or at least never alone, if it affects YOU in a scary way.  :bearhug:  :icon_e_smile:

I have to disagree with almost everything you wrote Itsher. It was my ex bf who got into weeds, not me. He was not using it when we first met and started dating but then started to use it because of his friends. He was growing the weed in his back yard. So the weed he smoked was pure! The rest is just like I wrote in one of my previous posts. He didn't have any lung or breathing problems or he wasn't forgetting anything before he started to use it. He was such a healthy guy and I experienced how he lost his health, his career, his family and me. He started to cough like he had cancer, he started to have breathing problems, started to forget everything, became an emotionless person, also became a very nervous, depressed person especially when he didn't smoke it. It wasn't enough for him that he started to use some more drugs like extasy and so on.

Yes, maybe just a smoke per day might not be dangerous BUT it is hard for people to keep it at that. MOST of them start to smoke more and more and then they start to lose their health and then start using other drugs. It was NOT only my bf who had to go through all of this because of weeds but also his friends too. That's how I experienced it from the first hand and how I know how dangerous using weeds is.

If any of you is using weeds, pls be careful with it. I saw how it damages lives. Love to all of you.  :bearhug:

[wishingstar]

For the most part I have stayed off this thread...just a couple of random posts/thoughts.  I would like to say I do shadow PureLove's statement of the kids on forum....if for the only reason, some of those kids are probably from the States.......where it is still a very illegal substance.  All doctor's notes aside, get caught with that stuff your life is trashed here......schools kick you out, you can be jailed, scholarships lost in a heartbeat, jobs lost.....it's illegal stuff here.  So please do not risk your future...I have seen many kids lose way too much because of it.  It's not worth it.........

Blessings Always

[bec]

Btw, it is "weed" singular as the plural, you do not add an "s".

Yes, it's bugging me.

There is a lot of misinformation flying around this thread from both sides.

[Tink]

@itsher - we barely lost. The biggest issue, is the abuse that goes on with it, and the fact we have the Mexican CARTELS MURDERING people over Pot street distribution!

49 headless people over the past week. HOW do we stop this madness!?  :'( That's why we can't legalize it across the board! We'd just be putting money into their pockets. Decriminalizing it for personal use - that's what we've done. Dealers? PRISON.

There's THC, which gets people high, and like it's been pointed out - that's the ingredient that makes people USELESS, and absolutely can cause other health issues. It makes them want more, more, more. THAT is the type the Cartels have a grip on, make their money on.

As for the MMJ patients? The doctors won't give a recommendation under either 18 - 21. And they do comb through your medical records these days, thank goodness.

THC isn't the ingredient we're using for MMJ patients; it's the cannaboids for pain, which won't get the stoner's high.

BUT - it sounds wrong, about what was found at the house; you know why? Because patients get it in glass or plastic Medicine bottles, same as regular meds, with a label of which place it came from, with name on it - NOT in baggies.

Ergo, it WAS NOT MICHAEL'S! Doesn't anyone realize that!?

It really sounds to me, like the moldy baggies were planted by someone - who knew nothing about this, or didn't think it mattered. Did the cops plant it, from really OLD evidence lockers?

p.s. - I don't use it anymore, because I have decent insurance again. Yes; I take an awful lot of meds each day, but I can travel to any state and any country without getting busted. It's a sigh of relief for me!

[SimPattyK]

For the most part I have stayed off this thread...just a couple of random posts/thoughts.  I would like to say I do shadow PureLove's statement of the kids on forum....if for the only reason, some of those kids are probably from the States.......where it is still a very illegal substance.  All doctor's notes aside, get caught with that stuff your life is trashed here......schools kick you out, you can be jailed, scholarships lost in a heartbeat, jobs lost.....it's illegal stuff here.  So please do not risk your future...I have seen many kids lose way too much because of it.  It's not worth it.........

Blessings Always

I agree with what you say Wishy, when it comes to laws, which are more or less debatable, YESSS people need to watch what they're doing! And I totally understand PureLove's point of view too, especially coming from a concrete personal experience. I am sorry you had to endure such a terrible circumstance, PureLove.

Marijuana is a plant, but with powerful effects...that can influence differently people, just like for ex. coffee makes some people feel sleepy, while others feel full of energy! totally opposite effects! So most certainly marijuana has various effects on different people. Even if it's a plant , it's not like your consuming a fruit or something !! And when it's smoked it gets more harmful.

The way I see this plant is for only extreme situations, when you really need it as a treatment, as an alternative to chemical drugs!  And just as I don't take an aspirin as soon as my head hurts a bit when I get cold, I prefer to let the pain go by itself and I take the pill only if it persists, so similarly I wouldn't take marijuana under any form, just for the "fun of it"! I think of this plant just as I think of any medicine: it is be used only when needed and with caution!!!

[SimPattyK]

Unless I'm having HALLUCINATIONS, Lisa just made a video in Elvis's studio and she's wearing a dress with...... MARIJUANA LEAVES!!  :affraid:

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