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[Glinda]

Who are we to judge that anyway?

[Disco]

I have never believed the "Drug Addict" story, Michael was addicted in the 90s and went for treatment, I find it very difficult to believe that a man that was living such a healthy life in Ireland -Organic food-fresh veg-good diet......Then he went back to America & just tossed that lifestyle?!?!?   8-)
I've watched TII on blue ray many times, just love the extra's, Michael was on top of his game & that production was not just for 10 dates!!
Michael knew what he was doing  :)

[a18wheelslady]

I don't buy the drug addict thing. just part of the hoax
and his children were always safe with him. they were his life.
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[paula-c]

I think equally, he is not an addict and not habia made ill. Everything is a part of the plan. 8-)

[DancingTheDream]

Have you ever thought about MJ's family saying he was a drug addict and others family members such as Jermane said they never saw him do any drugs.   According to Randy and Janet they said they tried to do an drug intervention, and was not allowed to come in.  If I was the family whose family member who was on drugs and had small children I would call child protective services and or tell the drug addicted family member that I will cal CPS and havethe children taken away if he or she does'nt get off of drugs now !!

So with that being said what do you think of the Jackson family now ? Thoughts anyone.

The problem with that is that Michael was the family breadwinner.  He brought the house that Katherine lives in with Jermaine and Randys kids and whoever else is there.

Michael was the main man in the family..   would they risk that by shopping him to the authorities and have his children took off him>  knowing if they did that Michael would cut them out of their lives forever?

[mumof3]

Good point dancing. Why upset the bread winner. But have to say I watched tii. Closely today and michael was one step ahead of anybody and was thinking all the time his reactions were very quick so he was either very used to the drugs or clever at covering up or what believe most of it is a lie

[mjsgirl89]

I never believed the drug addict story...and a big part of me thinks Mike saying he was addicted in 1993 may just be a part of the hoax...make it more believable in 2009...imo

[hesouttamylife]

I'm going against the grain because I do believe that he had an addiction to pain medication.  Anyone with a burn as serious as his was would have certainly at one point been on very strong and addictive pain medications, and for a long period of time. Unfortunately the drugs that give the most relief are all addictive.  Can you even imagine the pain that kind of urn to the scalp would be?  God forbid I hate even when I burn the tip of my finger, with that kind of burn I would have been on every kind of drug known to man.  That kind of pain is unimaginable.

I don't think that it was ongoing but once addicted always addicted.  Michael has suffered a few spills since then that again would have caused him to require pain meds.  as with any other addiction, if it is introduced again, the body wants more of it and possibly higher dosages for the same relief.  That's nothing to be ashamed about.  Obviously Michael wasn't because he did admit it and I am proud of him because of his admission.  I blame the pharmaceutical companies and the physicians who continue to prescribe what's easiest for them rather that trying some other means, knowing the ill effects.

I don't consider him a drug addict, but a person with an addiction or as he would put it "high tolerance", I whole heartedly believe and I'm sure he knew it himself

[alovesmichael]

Thing is even if Michael was addicted during the TII rehearsals and before we wouldn't necessarily be able to see that. As someone here on the forum has already explained many times, being addicted to pain meds doesn't mean you can't funktion well during the rest of the day (assuming that Michael took it at night). It's probably quite hard to detect if you're not vey close to that person. Then again the AR states differently but what does that matter since most here think it's fake.

Idk... I mean what purpose does saying that he's addicted to pain meds (back in 93) have in a hoax. There's just so many theories and speculation but no clear picture of anything, such as an actual purpose of a hoax... Would any of you like to waist so much time of your life planning a hoax, when all you seem to want is some "normality" in your life?

[~Souza~]

Idk... I mean what purpose does saying that he's addicted to pain meds (back in 93) have in a hoax. There's just so many theories and speculation but no clear picture of anything, such as an actual purpose of a hoax... Would any of you like to waist so much time of your life planning a hoax, when all you seem to want is some "normality" in your life?

The purpose of the hoax for him is not to have normalcy in his life, he want's to start a revolution to change this fucked up world. Yes, I would 'waist' that much time on that as well, if I had the chance to do what he does now, without doubt.

[mumof3]

Nearly every part of tii film was about love and looking after the planet  it can't just a plain rehearsal footage so it's message it must be

[alovesmichael]

Idk... I mean what purpose does saying that he's addicted to pain meds (back in 93) have in a hoax. There's just so many theories and speculation but no clear picture of anything, such as an actual purpose of a hoax... Would any of you like to waist so much time of your life planning a hoax, when all you seem to want is some "normality" in your life?

The purpose of the hoax for him is not to have normalcy in his life, he want's to start a revolution to change this fucked up world. Yes, I would 'waist' that much time on that as well, if I had the chance to do what he does now, without doubt.

I see what you're saying but what you think is the purpose is still mere speculation. Before TII Michael was out the spotlight for quite some time, which is totally understandable considering the trial but if starting a revolution was so high on his agenda wouldn't we have seen more of him before last year's events? We could say he was planning things but then shouldn't he have been out of the spotlight in the 80's and 90's too (for those who believe it's a hoax that has been planned for decades)? Planning things i.e.

Michael many times explained how he enjoyed being able to do some "normal" things when possible and we've also heard people that knew him tell us about such stories. I don't think Michael wanted a complete "normal" (may I add that I strongly dislike that word  :roll: ) life how could he possibly relate to that? We've also heard that Michael would take his children with him everywhere, always wanting to be with them, so if Michael wanted to start this revolution now wouldn't he at least wait for his kids to get a bit older first before putting them through all of this? Not saying I know what Michael would or wouldn't do but trying to put things into a realistic perspective, I'm just speculating myself...

[*Mo*]

Idk... I mean what purpose does saying that he's addicted to pain meds (back in 93) have in a hoax. There's just so many theories and speculation but no clear picture of anything, such as an actual purpose of a hoax... Would any of you like to waist so much time of your life planning a hoax, when all you seem to want is some "normality" in your life?

The purpose of the hoax for him is not to have normalcy in his life, he want's to start a revolution to change this fucked up world. Yes, I would 'waist' that much time on that as well, if I had the chance to do what he does now, without doubt.

I see what you're saying but what you think is the purpose is still mere speculation. Before TII Michael was out the spotlight for quite some time, which is totally understandable considering the trial but if starting a revolution was so high on his agenda wouldn't we have seen more of him before last year's events? We could say he was planning things but then shouldn't he have been out of the spotlight in the 80's and 90's too (for those who believe it's a hoax that has been planned for decades)? Planning things i.e.

Michael many times explained how he enjoyed being able to do some "normal" things when possible and we've also heard people that knew him tell us about such stories. I don't think Michael wanted a complete "normal" (may I add that I strongly dislike that word  :roll: ) life how could he possibly relate to that? We've also heard that Michael would take his children with him everywhere, always wanting to be with them, so if Michael wanted to start this revolution now wouldn't he at least wait for his kids to get a bit older first before putting them through all of this? Not saying I know what Michael would or wouldn't do but trying to put things into a realistic perspective, I'm just speculating myself...

Again - start LISTENING to him please, reread his lyrics and listen to his speeches again.  In example: "We have four years to get it right or else it's irreversible".  Does that ring a bell?

[alovesmichael]

I have been listening to him for 20 years. As for really LISTENING I'd say perhaps 10 years, now that is a long time IMO but it still won't tell me if he's gone or not.

I've heard about the 4 year prediction before Michael's TII, mainly relating to nature and global warming. You know this might be what Michael's refering to as well because he might as well have heard it where I heard it (not sure if it was a scientifical prediction or something else). I mean do we REALLY know what he meant? Global warming makes sense to me, especially when taking the emphasis on Earth Song into consideration.

I know I'm being stubborn but I'm trying to see things from other perspectives (more likely ones but that's just my opinion, so I'm not bashing anyone's thoughts) and I'd just like to see other forum member's thoughts on other possibilities.

[~Souza~]

I have been listening to him for 20 years. As for really LISTENING I'd say perhaps 10 years, now that is a long time IMO but it still won't tell me if he's gone or not.

I've heard about the 4 year prediction before Michael's TII, mainly relating to nature and global warming. You know this might be what Michael's refering to as well because he might as well have heard it where I heard it (not sure if it was a scientifical prediction or something else). I mean do we REALLY know what he meant? Global warming makes sense to me, especially when taking the emphasis on Earth Song into consideration.

I know I'm being stubborn but I'm trying to see things from other perspectives (more likely ones but that's just my opinion, so I'm not bashing anyone's thoughts) and I'd just like to see other forum member's thoughts on other possibilities.

That really would not explain all the 'coincidences' pointing to the corrupt governments and men behind the curtain. This song is not about global warming:

[center:2ps5zkvg]"Tabloid Junkie"

Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory

It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual

In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory

It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual

Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable[/center:2ps5zkvg]