0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
QuoteOption 2: There is a part of me that thinks he has this one date in mind since he started planning this. If he is really such a perfectionist, he must have this perfect bamdate planned in advance as well. Probably impossible for us to find out, but that would make it even more perfect. In this case TS' predictions of possible bamdates are either a test for us to see if we will keep the faith no matter what, or Mike simply is the only one who knows the date.I have been leaning towards the thinking in this Option for a long time now Souza My intuition tells me that MJ has had the perfect date for a BAM planned long ago. It seems to fit with the entire precise planning of this whole hoax when you look back at the dates and timing of significant events (as TS has also discussed) eg the "death", The Memorial, the Funeral, the release of This is It, the dates for Dr M's court appearances etc etc.My thinking is the entire thing is just all too well planned for MJ not to already have a BAM date. I also think he is most likely the only person who knows the date. Maybe it was the same with his "death day" - perhaps his family knew it was going to happen...they just didn't know when.
Option 2: There is a part of me that thinks he has this one date in mind since he started planning this. If he is really such a perfectionist, he must have this perfect bamdate planned in advance as well. Probably impossible for us to find out, but that would make it even more perfect. In this case TS' predictions of possible bamdates are either a test for us to see if we will keep the faith no matter what, or Mike simply is the only one who knows the date.
@diggyonI don't think that we should consider the option 3 because the entire hoax wouldn't make sense anymore. If Michael doesn't bam it must be because of a very tragic situation but I believe that God is on Michael's side and will protect him so that he can accomplish his mission. I am 100% certain of a bam.
Sarahli I am like my faith is unshakable, and nobody knows what you think Michael, what are we expose all theories, perhaps the curls a bit desperate, I do not think TS are playing with us, I think it would be a bit cruel to play with the feelings of the people in this way, if everything you said TS was a lie, how long they could keep?The philosophy of let things flow not only is useful before decisions, but also when we enfretamos problems or situations that do not occur as expected.In other words, not forcing decisions not obliged to accept what we chose in a time of pressure, but wait time to accommodate things.
Recruiting Soldiers for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.Please post at least your support for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E. And additionally, entirely voluntarily, you can mention specifics that you are willing to do: starting with the “Man in the Mirror”, make that “change”; maybe a New Year’s resolution. And then go beyond yourself, and reach out to others, joining together in helping to “Heal the World”. This is Michael’s message; This Is It.
I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.
For starters, maybe it is time to create a sub-forum for Coherent Theories. By this, I mean theories that start putting all the pieces together, fitting into one bigger picture. But we can’t have MJ hopping on a plane at LAX, escaping out of a tunnel in the basement of UCLA, and riding alive in the helicopter to the coroner’s office, as well as in the other helicopter—all at the same time. This would not qualify as a coherent theory.
“Think 4 your Self” quiz.NOTE: M, S, & F questions are primarily for non-believers (or those who are wavering); the rest of the questions are for believers, especially those who don’t know about or don’t agree with the TIAI reasons for the hoax.Michael:M1. After watching MJ videos including Thriller and Ghosts: is there any reason why MJ would not have thought to do a real life Thriller—especially since he was married to LMP, and the Elvis hoax death theory is very well known?M2. If MJ did plan a hoax death, is there any time that would fit better with a full moon (Thriller) and 777 than: 6-25-09 death (77 days to 9-9-09), 7-7-09 memorial (full moon & 7 years from will), 9-3-09 burial (7 days to 9-9-09, & almost full moon), and all the other numerology?M3. Being a big fan of old movies, and also choosing to remake Gilda in TII: it’s not possible that MJ was unaware of Mundson/Macready faking his death in Gilda (and also sharing MJ’s birthday). So if MJ was not planning on faking his death: would he be so cruel as to include Gilda in TII, and make his fans think he was planning a hoax death when in reality he was not?Statistics:S1. Even if MJ was unaware of the hoax death in Gilda: what are the chances that he accidentally did a remake of a fake death by an actor sharing his own birthday?S2. What are the odds that all the hoax numerology and timing is merely coincidence (and show your calculations, not just your answer)?S3. Things which occur randomly, and are not planned, will happen more than once. So can you give at least one example of a similar death timing, that happened by chance—where the timing repeatedly fit with specific three-digit and/or four-digit numbers (not single-digit numbers), numbers that were emphasized by that same person before the death (hint: neither Elvis nor 2pac come anywhere close)?Family:F1. From the death to the burial more than two months later, why did we never see a single tear shed from a single family member (not even Paris, in her touching speech at the memorial)? And why did the children looked bored at the memorial? And why did the adults all wear dark glasses (so that we could not see the tears, or not see the lack of tears)?F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video? And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial? Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???F3. Why was the burial delayed for a world-record longest time? And why did the family schedule it for 9-3-09: unless it had to do with the 7 days to 9-9-09, and the full moon (on 9-4-09)?EOW:E1. If the numerology and timing is not a coincidence (see M2 & S2): then why was the 911 call placed immediately at 12:21, unless it was to show that one of the main reasons for the hoax is to warn about the end of the world (that it’s near—even if it’s not at the end of the Mayan calendar, 2012)?E2. Why did MJ specifically mention four more years in TII, unless he was referring to 2012 (and also the Sony movie with “Jackson” in it, etc)?E3. MJ reads the Bible daily; and according to it, there will be an end to this world—and that end will come prior to the “new earth” (see Revelation 21:1; etc). The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth. With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message?NWO:N1. Also in the Bible, a one-world government/religion is prophesied to rise near the end of the world (see Revelation 17; etc). So if MJ’s message includes warning about the end of the world, how is it possible that his message does not also include a warning about the New World Order?N2. If MJ does not believe in conspiracies from secret societies and our own governments: then why did he say that the grassy knoll is “truth” (Tabloid Junkie), and who does “they” refer to in TDRCAU (with the pyramid and eye, etc)?N3. Who is behind the “conspiracy” that MJ was talking about, when he mentioned that our history books have been changed?Bam:B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when. So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?TIAI:T1. How did TS end up with the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login domain? If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below? And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)?
Could be that his army would be acting in his name - spreading awakening, awareness and hope to people, the way he did. We can do that now, regardless of whether he comes back physically as a leader. We're always talking here about how it's the message that's important, not the Bam, yet suddenly Bam seems to have become very important.
I wonder what it is people think MJ is going to do as leader of this army, that he hasn't already done. I'm not making a fuss, I really want to know! Maybe we are giving him a role he may not have planned for or want. Maybe he thinks he's done enough and is handing it over to the rest of the world - and to God. Has TS ever said MJ is coming back to lead his army? I don't recall reading that. Please show me if I've missed it.And to ask again what I said earlier - what do people think constitutes a bam? Does it necessarily mean him coming back into the public eye, interviews, photos, actually seeing him again in the flesh? Or would incontrovertible evidence to the whole world of him still being alive, but remaining 'hidden' be sufficient?
Quote from: "curls" I still think we're not using our time wisely - if we're still waiting for someone to tell us what to do maybe we're not fully thinking for ourselves yet. Just a thought.Funny you say that... here's a post I just added to my blog - Point 2 pertains more to what you were saying...You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThere are two things TS said that have been on my mind lately:1. From Update #4, section 4-37 (March 14, 2010) Quote from: "TS" For starters, maybe it is time to create a sub-forum for Coherent Theories. By this, I mean theories that start putting all the pieces together, fitting into one bigger picture. But we can’t have MJ hopping on a plane at LAX, escaping out of a tunnel in the basement of UCLA, and riding alive in the helicopter to the coroner’s office, as well as in the other helicopter—all at the same time. This would not qualify as a coherent theory. 2. From Update #5, section 5-11 (May 20, 2010)Quote from: "TS" “Think 4 your Self” quiz.NOTE: M, S, & F questions are primarily for non-believers (or those who are wavering); the rest of the questions are for believers, especially those who don’t know about or don’t agree with the TIAI reasons for the hoax.Michael:M1. After watching MJ videos including Thriller and Ghosts: is there any reason why MJ would not have thought to do a real life Thriller—especially since he was married to LMP, and the Elvis hoax death theory is very well known?M2. If MJ did plan a hoax death, is there any time that would fit better with a full moon (Thriller) and 777 than: 6-25-09 death (77 days to 9-9-09), 7-7-09 memorial (full moon & 7 years from will), 9-3-09 burial (7 days to 9-9-09, & almost full moon), and all the other numerology?M3. Being a big fan of old movies, and also choosing to remake Gilda in TII: it’s not possible that MJ was unaware of Mundson/Macready faking his death in Gilda (and also sharing MJ’s birthday). So if MJ was not planning on faking his death: would he be so cruel as to include Gilda in TII, and make his fans think he was planning a hoax death when in reality he was not?Statistics:S1. Even if MJ was unaware of the hoax death in Gilda: what are the chances that he accidentally did a remake of a fake death by an actor sharing his own birthday?S2. What are the odds that all the hoax numerology and timing is merely coincidence (and show your calculations, not just your answer)?S3. Things which occur randomly, and are not planned, will happen more than once. So can you give at least one example of a similar death timing, that happened by chance—where the timing repeatedly fit with specific three-digit and/or four-digit numbers (not single-digit numbers), numbers that were emphasized by that same person before the death (hint: neither Elvis nor 2pac come anywhere close)?Family:F1. From the death to the burial more than two months later, why did we never see a single tear shed from a single family member (not even Paris, in her touching speech at the memorial)? And why did the children looked bored at the memorial? And why did the adults all wear dark glasses (so that we could not see the tears, or not see the lack of tears)?F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video? And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial? Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???F3. Why was the burial delayed for a world-record longest time? And why did the family schedule it for 9-3-09: unless it had to do with the 7 days to 9-9-09, and the full moon (on 9-4-09)?EOW:E1. If the numerology and timing is not a coincidence (see M2 & S2): then why was the 911 call placed immediately at 12:21, unless it was to show that one of the main reasons for the hoax is to warn about the end of the world (that it’s near—even if it’s not at the end of the Mayan calendar, 2012)?E2. Why did MJ specifically mention four more years in TII, unless he was referring to 2012 (and also the Sony movie with “Jackson” in it, etc)?E3. MJ reads the Bible daily; and according to it, there will be an end to this world—and that end will come prior to the “new earth” (see Revelation 21:1; etc). The memorial program actually mentioned that MJ looks forward to the new earth. With these things in mind, how is it possible that the end of the world is not part of MJ’s message?NWO:N1. Also in the Bible, a one-world government/religion is prophesied to rise near the end of the world (see Revelation 17; etc). So if MJ’s message includes warning about the end of the world, how is it possible that his message does not also include a warning about the New World Order?N2. If MJ does not believe in conspiracies from secret societies and our own governments: then why did he say that the grassy knoll is “truth” (Tabloid Junkie), and who does “they” refer to in TDRCAU (with the pyramid and eye, etc)?N3. Who is behind the “conspiracy” that MJ was talking about, when he mentioned that our history books have been changed?Bam:B1. If MJ never does bam: how is he going to succeed in getting the main messages (EOW, NWO, etc) to the billions in the world?B2. If you accept the clues which show that MJ is alive: then why don’t you accept that the very same clues (in many cases) also show that he will be back (bam)?B3. TIAI says that there will be a bamsday, the only question is when. So is this reliable (if you say no, then please answer T1, T2, & T3, next)?TIAI:T1. How did TS end up with the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login domain? If you say it was just a coincidence, then what are the odds (how many other MJ fans are there, including non-believers, who could’ve bought that domain after the Huffington Post article came out)?T2. If TS is merely a hoax investigator, without any special source for hoax information: then why for nearly a year now did nobody else figure out the seven layers in “THIS IS IT” (as well as most of the other numerology and timing—777, 999, 1776, 1998, etc)?T3. Can you explain all 18 in 5-12, below? And if you say that they are all coincidences: then can you demonstrate that you understand how to calculate the statistics, and show your calculations for the odds of all 18 by chance (like I did above, with 12:21:04 for the 911 call)? So have we come up with any coherent theories and can we all say that we could pass the quiz?I’ll be the first to say I haven’t done either and so that’s probably why it’s been on my mind.I don’t know, I may just be bringing up stuff that was covered previously but that is no longer relevant….I personally commit to doing both of these things for myself hopefully by this week. What do you guys think?
