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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 23, 2010, 12:52:07 PM
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I'm really not so sure...The Martin Bashir documentary practically brought the allegations of molestation back into daylight and I don't understand why would Michael willingly do it? He had an album coming out, why would he choose to face a potential future in prison instead?

I think he could have been in control of the interview, but he had no control over the finishing product and the editing.


Maybe they were both trying to outsmart each other? In one of the outtakes Bashir whispers with the rest of the crew: "oh they're gonna love it" and then MJ looks puzzled, asking what and MB says nearly stuttering something to effect of "your life". I kind of felt for Michael when I saw that, it was clear that something was up.

First, why would he be scared of going to prison for something that never happened? The evidence provided by the prosecution was falsified...MADE UP! If a person is innocent, and they KNOW there is literally NO evidence available to be convicted, then they naturally wouldn't and SHOULDN'T HAVE TO conduct themselves any other way. If Michael would have quit living lifestyle he wanted to live just to appease those who thought he was guilty, he would ONLY be giving in to that false judgement and in turn, appearing guility.

Also, regarding the Bashir interview, remember Michael had his own camera man on set with him. Why? So that he would have proof of the TRUTH of what went on during the interview. That way, if editing was done to make him appear guilty, he would be able to provide proof that it was all in the editing and that people will do anything for money.


Yes, Mike's own footage was shown in court as well. Batshit made a complete ass outta himself by not answering one single question. Have you read Aphrodite Jones' book?
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 23, 2010, 12:56:43 PM
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I'm really not so sure...The Martin Bashir documentary practically brought the allegations of molestation back into daylight and I don't understand why would Michael willingly do it? He had an album coming out, why would he choose to face a potential future in prison instead?

I think he could have been in control of the interview, but he had no control over the finishing product and the editing.


Maybe they were both trying to outsmart each other? In one of the outtakes Bashir whispers with the rest of the crew: "oh they're gonna love it" and then MJ looks puzzled, asking what and MB says nearly stuttering something to effect of "your life". I kind of felt for Michael when I saw that, it was clear that something was up.

First, why would he be scared of going to prison for something that never happened? The evidence provided by the prosecution was falsified...MADE UP! If a person is innocent, and they KNOW there is literally NO evidence available to be convicted, then they naturally wouldn't and SHOULDN'T HAVE TO conduct themselves any other way. If Michael would have quit living lifestyle he wanted to live just to appease those who thought he was guilty, he would ONLY be giving in to that false judgement and in turn, appearing guility.

Also, regarding the Bashir interview, remember Michael had his own camera man on set with him. Why? So that he would have proof of the TRUTH of what went on during the interview. That way, if editing was done to make him appear guilty, he would be able to provide proof that it was all in the editing and that people will do anything for money.


Yes, Mike's own footage was shown in court as well. Batshit made a complete ass outta himself by not answering one single question. Have you read Aphrodite Jones' book?

I haven't read it yet, no. I read some exerpts online. I actually could not find the book anywhere in stores here. I should probably just order it online, would love to read it.
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 23, 2010, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
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I'm really not so sure...The Martin Bashir documentary practically brought the allegations of molestation back into daylight and I don't understand why would Michael willingly do it? He had an album coming out, why would he choose to face a potential future in prison instead?

I think he could have been in control of the interview, but he had no control over the finishing product and the editing.


Maybe they were both trying to outsmart each other? In one of the outtakes Bashir whispers with the rest of the crew: "oh they're gonna love it" and then MJ looks puzzled, asking what and MB says nearly stuttering something to effect of "your life". I kind of felt for Michael when I saw that, it was clear that something was up.

First, why would he be scared of going to prison for something that never happened? The evidence provided by the prosecution was falsified...MADE UP! If a person is innocent, and they KNOW there is literally NO evidence available to be convicted, then they naturally wouldn't and SHOULDN'T HAVE TO conduct themselves any other way. If Michael would have quit living lifestyle he wanted to live just to appease those who thought he was guilty, he would ONLY be giving in to that false judgement and in turn, appearing guility.

Also, regarding the Bashir interview, remember Michael had his own camera man on set with him. Why? So that he would have proof of the TRUTH of what went on during the interview. That way, if editing was done to make him appear guilty, he would be able to provide proof that it was all in the editing and that people will do anything for money.


Yes, Mike's own footage was shown in court as well. Batshit made a complete ass outta himself by not answering one single question. Have you read Aphrodite Jones' book?

I haven't read it yet, no. I read some exerpts online. I actually could not find the book anywhere in stores here. I should probably just order it online, would love to read it.

It's a must-read! Lots and lots of information in that book. You should really order it!
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 24, 2010, 08:21:18 PM
Love this video. Thanks for posting this. I think he has been on stage with 7 lights for quite some time now. I also wondered if MJ purposely acted that way because he knew Tom Sneddon was desperate trying to find another case on him so he got one handed to him. This way MJ can finally show his innocence in court and also show the negligence of Mr. Sneddon.
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 25, 2010, 06:12:06 PM
My opinion is that Michael toyed with Bashir in some of the answers he gave... I think he liked confounding people sometimes, or giving them exactly what they wanted - especially if he felt (at that point in time) that Bashir wasn't doing the interviewing in good faith.  I see, for instance, a different attitude from MJ in his interviews with Geraldo Rivera, who clearly asked smart questions and wanted to portray him in a good light.  I believe that MJ found some of Bashir's questions banal and couldn't be bothered to answer in a beautiful, elaborate way... I imagine that putting up with Bashir for months was annoying and exhausting.

I don't, however, believe that MJ wanted the accusations of child molestation to start flying around, or that he wanted to bring about a trial.  He went through HELL during the 2005 trial and virtually fought for his life!  As one of you said, MJ didn't control the editing of the footage... and that's what did him in.  (I read somewhere that MJ asked to see the edited tape before it was released and Bashir promised to show it to him, but ultimately didn't.)
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 25, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
Brilliant video, thanks for posting -too empathic if you know what I mean  8-)

'Conspiracy' seems to have been out of stock for ages! Been trying to get my hands on it for months  :(  If anyone finds out where to get it from (not ebook or pdf) please let me know!
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 27, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
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Brilliant video, thanks for posting -too empathic if you know what I mean  8-)

'Conspiracy' seems to have been out of stock for ages! Been trying to get my hands on it for months  :(  If anyone finds out where to get it from (not ebook or pdf) please let me know!

For some reason I thought someone posted a link about the book.
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 27, 2010, 05:37:21 PM
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Brilliant video, thanks for posting -too empathic if you know what I mean  8-)

'Conspiracy' seems to have been out of stock for ages! Been trying to get my hands on it for months  :(  If anyone finds out where to get it from (not ebook or pdf) please let me know!

For some reason I thought someone posted a link about the book.

You mean in another thread?
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 27, 2010, 05:48:35 PM
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Updated version on the way, I wonder what she added.
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 27, 2010, 05:50:09 PM
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Updated version on the way, I wonder what she added.


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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 29, 2010, 08:28:20 PM
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Updated version on the way, I wonder what she added.

Thanks! Can't wait
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Re: Michael Jackson Hoax - Even Martin Bashir?
August 30, 2010, 09:54:45 AM
Thanks.  :)
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