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The forum and its admins

Started by ~Souza~, July 08, 2010, 05:40:03 PM

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It has been a while since I felt the urge to post something like this, but things are getting crazy again and I think a new admin post is inevitable.

A lot of you might have seen the video posted on this forum. I locked the thread, but the video is still there for all of you to see. We have nothing to hide and the video is full of untruthfulness and has the sole purpose to bash and ridicule us. It has happened before and I am sure it will happen again.

I saw a comment that people want to be clarified as to who we are. Due to safety reasons we simply can't. People that have spoken to us know we are indeed Dutch, but that's all we can say about it. We don't use our own names or whereabouts because we get death threads and I can tell you (without going into detail) some stuff already happened in our personal lives that we can not explain but was highly uncomfortable to say the least. We don't have to know who you are, I hope you respect the fact that we don't want to say who we are, same goes for badkolo, who is under false names as well. It's for a good reason.

The poster of the video was never banned, she asked herself if we could deactivate her after the article in The Sun, so we did. There is a lot of hate towards us on the other forum, and I don't really get why. We don't bash the others and we don't allow that here. Many people say they are banned when they are not, some people were banned because they couldn't behave, not because they had a different opinion.

What is bugging me the most is that people claim we are here for our own agendas. That is simply not true. We don't earn money with this website, this website costs a lot of money. People who are familiar with owning websites know that the more traffic on your website, the higher the costs are. We don't have ads so we don't gain from that as well.

We have only one agenda and that's finding out the truth about what happened to Michael Jackson. The fact that we are not fans does not mean we don't like him. We do want to know the why and not the when, and I think we have said that many times. We have our own opinion as to why he did this, and we can voice OUR opinion as well, like everyone can, as long as people stay respectful. We too are people of flesh and bones and not made of steal. We put in a lot of time to keep this forum running and I don't expect you to kiss our feet, I am only asking to respect us just a little if it's possible.

About The Jacksonologist: she was demodded for the single reason that she was not active as a mod on this forum anymore, but being an active member on MJHD. That is fine, but i do hope you understand the fact that we need mods that are active here as well. Most of the time there was no mod online, that is why we decided to have new mods and demod a few others. If she feels like we spied on her, well I can't help that. I do visit MJHD sometimes as well and if you call that spying, that's fine.

About TS and Elvis&MJ: We believe in TS and we trust in him, simply because no one was able to debunk his posts. We do not believe Elvis is going to bam, but the story about Elvis is very similar to Mike's death and the fact that there is evidence that Elvis is still alive, underlines the fact that Mike is still alive. You are not obligated to join in the trending Twitter Rally, you are not obligated to believe it. Everyone can make up his own mind. But the fact that we are admins, doesn't mean that we are only here to lock and delete posts, we also participate in the hoax as much as we can and we have our own beliefs.

I am disgusted by the way some people think it's necessary to treat us. I do not understand why there is so much hate amongst believers and to tell you the truth, the accusations are starting to hurt. We have put so much time and effort into this website not only for us, but for you all. We could have made a blog and be done, yet we made a forum for everyone. MJHD was shut down twice and other forums didn't last long either. We wanted to make sure the info wouldn't get lost again.

If you really don't like it here, if you really hate the admins with their agendas that much, I am asking you: why are you still here? No one is keeping you here. Why not go to another forum and let it rest? Why the hate?

The video will stay here for you to check, but other posts like that will be deleted instantly. Not because we want to 'hide the truth' but to stop the lies about us. I don't allow videos bashing others, but I also don't allow videos bashing us and spreading hate.

Maybe it's because there is not enough news now, and people are again disappointed that there hasn't been a bam yet, I don't know, but it seems we are the targets again.

This post will probably be copied and pasted everywhere to make fun of, well go ahead. This is what I wanted to say and nothing more. If you want to leave, just leave, if you want to stay, stay but show some respect. If you have questions, you can always pm me. Some people do when they think something is odd and I always try to answer, if I can. You can also post questions in here, so everyone can see them and I will answer them in here. But I hope you will understand I will not answer hateful and disrespectful posts.

I really hope we can all stop hating each other and set our differences aside.

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liegi

July 09, 2010, 03:16:58 PM #45 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Thank you.  I'm sorry I didn't understand you were referring to those videos (I have seen them).


SoldierofLOVE

July 09, 2010, 09:03:51 PM #46 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Lonelynation"

I would also like to express my gratitude for all the work you two put into this site. I sometimes stay away from the site for a while then come back, but only because it's hard on my heart. Truly though, I find it appalling that you guys would receive death threats or any sort of negative comments. Like you said, if people don't want to be on the site, they shouldn't be on it.

I want to thank you guys so much for funding and supporting such a site. I've had the chance to talk to people from all over the world, and it's been amazing. Not only that, but all of these people have felt the same pain I've felt about Michael, and are just wanting to find the truth. This site as helped me so much, and it's you two I have to thank :)

Here, here.  My sentiments exactly.  And because I'm not always on here since I signed up in December, I miss things and have totally missed the video that is referenced. video?  badkolo?  jacksonologist?  i've missed all of this but I appreciate hearing from Mo and Souza, which helps me get caught up today.

In any case, thank you for funding and supporting this site.
Without this site (and one other that I am on occasionally, :)  but that site came after this one), I would have absolutely no one to talk to about the death hoax.  I have a lot of friends who are diehard fans of Michael, but none of them believe that he's still alive.  Thank you for this outlet.


onemoretime

August 02, 2010, 11:19:46 AM #47 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"

very well said, souza.

I didnĀ“t know your laptop was stolen, and this shocks me that ppl even break into your homes just to be able to write some shit on the internet! Are you ok?

To hear this is really really bad and scary.   :(  Please, take great care of yourselves!
You must be very close to the truth to be such a target of hate.
Who is so much afraid of you (r words)?
"Witch-hunting" is a relict from the middle ages - those hunted and burnt were the wise women who knew too much, and those chasing them feared their mental power.
So they tried to demoralize them, tortured them and forced them to give false evidence.
History repeats itself - the methods are different, more subtle, but the vicious scheme behind it hasn't changed that much.
To endure this needs great courage.
Thank God times have changed at least, so people can defend and protect themselves not to get caught and be literally "burnt".
I just wonder what happened to Michael if he is safe as well.
I pray for your safety - and your happiness and good spirits to continue.


MashMike

August 02, 2010, 12:20:50 PM #48 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

i agree with all the  posts above, i must add that it's not only this forum that is being bashed, i have seen many mj sites, pages when fans attack,hurt and ridicule other fans for just not sharing their opinion,it really doesnt matter whether one has been MJ's fan for almost all his life or has become one after his "death",though i'm a fan since my childhood, i have met ones  who are fans from the very beginning but are rude, cruel to each other and  keep on talking  about MJ's message, about love, about spreading it, but instead they spread hatred, this is human nature and unfortunately these people are a lot and everywhere, so never give up Mo and Souza, u're  doing a great job, this place has become a very candid and sweet place for me,not talking about some really rude posters,i think those rude ones must be just ignored.much love and peace

NO BROKEN BRIDGES CAN TURN US AROUND,CAUSE WHAT WE\'RE SEARCHING FOR, WILL SOON BE FOUND,CAUSE WE\'RE ALMOST THERE, JUST ONE MORE STEP,JUST ONE MORE STEP,DON\'T GIVE UP CAUSE WE\'RE ALMOST THERE

Its her

August 03, 2010, 05:59:55 AM #49 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Integrity"

All I have to say is THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE.
WITH OUT YOU THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO FORUM FOR ALL OF US TO GO.
Be strong and please know that I appreciate you and I am very thankful to you both.
I do not know why anybody is against you. All I can say is I send protection your way & know that there are people like myself that are truly grateful.
Peace & love to you both:)

AMEN. Same loving thoughts (and prayers for protection) to you from myself. :)

Anonymity oftimes brings the cowards out of the woodwork. All cowards aren't haters but all haters are cowards. It is the nature of cowards to bully.

I don't understand haters, HERE, though. Unbeilievable every single time I see it here! A REAL oxymoron.... But, just be encouraged by what has been attributed to Bob Dylan, I believe:

"If you haven't been booed, you haven't done anything"

Cheers and jeers are just different pitches of expelled air. Tune out the sour notes, and pretend it's all one big symphony, as the backdrop to your obviously making some seriously righteous waves SOMEwhere in the fabric of this universe!!!  :o  8-)  :D  You GO, gurls!!!!!!!!!!!! :arrow:

Oh, and I'd get a big fierce booty :twisted: -munching dog for home security...now that is scary :!:

ONLY Believe...

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