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Datroot

Re: Ghost of doubles past
August 16, 2010, 04:59:59 AM
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Looking at it At it another way - maybe, in that particular shot, the Mayor was a double.
That's also how I look at the possibilities. This is a fascinating example of why MJ never ceases to amaze people. At the beginning when I was less familiar with MJ, I was sure of doubles, but now a year into him, my heart tells me it is all him, except for shots like this for illusion sake. In both the videos you posted the MJ figure in white shirt and black pants has a blurry face, so it could be a stand-in to deceive us in an illusion.

This video shot in the Encino yard in 1983 reveals this deliberate trickery by a young master. Michael gives us a peek into the way he thinks.
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At 5:02 he talks about illusion (the fountain is loud and I can't make out some words):

"I like creating magic,  (sings) __ __ little cloud, up so high, watch me now, watch me now,
__ __ I can do anything (talks) When I say magic, I mean wonderment, excitement, the unexpected, creating something that's so incredible, AN  ILLUSION,  to put people in a situation, no matter what it may be, and give them totally the opposite of the unexpected, so much more than they thought would happen. Whoosh, and just blow their minds. I like creating magic, excellence. I love doing that, unh, nothing like it. I try to do it in everything I do."

By the way does anyone know what song he is singing about the "cloud"? Thanks.

I believe he was refering to Peter Pan
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I'M A LOVER, NOT A FIGHTER

Re: Ghost of doubles past
August 16, 2010, 06:54:07 AM
MJ is a true genius!!!!
It's all an infinite ILLUSION!!!
LOVE IT :D
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Re: Ghost of doubles past
August 16, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
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WHAT IS THE POINT? THAT WAS MICHAEL IN NEVERLAND OR HIS SHADOW?
ASSUME MIKE, LONG TIME MJ's FRIEND AND PRETENDED DID NOT SEE ANYTHING?
WHAT ABOUT CAMERA MAN AND REPORTER? THEY DID NOT NOTICE MICHAEL  STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO CAMERA MAN?
 :roll:
Exactly,  :lol:
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Re: Ghost of doubles past
August 16, 2010, 06:45:24 PM
It's called a STAND IN
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Speechless, Speechless, That\'s how you make me feel!!!
I Love You now and forever Michael

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SEHF

Re: Ghost of doubles past
August 18, 2010, 10:43:28 PM
just a stand in.
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Re: Ghost of doubles past
August 18, 2010, 11:59:46 PM
Sorry but in the LKL interview there are TWO people in that shot and one has a camera. We can not see either of them clearly and it seems that they are both just members of the film crew that was at Neverland with Miko and Larry King.

As for the "Ghost" video, it isn't unusual to have a stand in present on a video shoot for the "star". Plus there could have been a something that required Michael and the Mayor in the same shot or a different shot of Michael and getting in and out of that makeup and disguise would have been time consuming. Some things are achieved when a film is edited but they still require stand ins, doubles etc. We also don't know what was filmed but edited out of the final video that was released to the public.

Neither of these clips actually proves anything related to the hoax.
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