Michael already dead by 10am and family had been notified?

[hope]

It's posted on here somewhere as well as other places. LAX was closed for 1 hour between 9:00am to 10:00am on June 25th. The control tower were told to ignore a private jet on a certain runway. The destination of the plane was N/A.
It was also stated later that the numbers on the plane had been covered.
The info about the flights that day are on the LAX site, and shows the private plane info. It is different from all the others.

[Melzy777]

So is it possible that MJ was with his father and close friend as he left for LAX ?  Is that why Joe didn't make it to the hospital because he was helping MJ get away at that time.......? I remember he only went to the Encino Ranch later on..  

That would explain why nobody was out the front of the house and why there were so many other cars already parked there in the foyer???

That makes more sense to me, then Murray going to the toilet for a few mins...and coming back to find him dead......so Murray is then definitely playing a part in this if this info is correct...(Don't like Dianne Diamond either)...but she does seem to have some new facts I'd never heard before either....

There was something about Michael trying to contact Joe on the 24th of June.. I can't find it anywhere, but I do remember it.. Maybe someone else remembers too. But it said something about Michael wanting Joe there.. to fix things.. something to that effect.

[GreenManMakeAChange]

Of all of the reporters that ever 'covered' Mike in his lifetime, Diane was the one he most despised.  

Trust when I say Dimond is a lying, manipulative, and downright heartless piece of excrement.

The things I could, but shouldn't & won't say about her; not publicly anyway...

I don't know how many of you know this - but as awful as Diane has been she did uncover a plot against Michael by a man and a boy up in Canada.  The boy was arrested and charged.  I don't know what happened to the man.  Don't remember now.

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[MashMike]

There was something about Michael trying to contact Joe on the 24th of June.. I can't find it anywhere, but I do remember it.. Maybe someone else remembers too. But it said something about Michael wanting Joe there.. to fix things.. something to that effect.



Yep, i remember that too, i read a couple of months ago about it but i thought that it was another tabloid BS, according to the article Mike was highly stressed the last days of his life, he would lock himself in his bedroom, not talk to anyone, read the Bible and the last day of his "life" he begged the employees to call his father,cause he knew Joe was a professional and could fix everything, he used to say to MJ"do it the best or don't do it at all", so the employees didnt call Joe.I dont know whether this story is true or not, to me it's BS, honestly i dont wanna it to be the truth.

[Melzy777]

There was something about Michael trying to contact Joe on the 24th of June.. I can't find it anywhere, but I do remember it.. Maybe someone else remembers too. But it said something about Michael wanting Joe there.. to fix things.. something to that effect.

Yep, i remember that too, i read a couple of months ago about it but i thought that it was another tabloid BS, according to the article Mike was highly stressed the last days of his life, he would lock himself in his bedroom, not talk to anyone, read the Bible and the last day of his "life" he begged the employees to call his father,cause he knew Joe was a professional and could fix everything, he used to say to MJ"do it the best or don't do it at all", so the employees didnt call Joe.I dont know whether this story is true or not, to me it's BS, honestly i dont wanna it to be the truth.

Yeah, that's what I remember too. Thanks!!  

I wonder if Joe blaming Katherine in the TMZ article has any connection to this rumour??

Joe Jackson Blames Katherine for Michael's Death
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It's pretty shocking ... Joe Jackson is blaming the inaction of his wife, Katherine, for Michael Jackson's demise ... allegedly because Katherine didn't want to penetrate MJ's zone of privacy.

Joe sat down with News of the World to explain his theory, that he was concerned that Michael was "looking kinda funny and and frail" and asked Katherine to see Michael to "keep him cheered up."  But Joe says Katherine refused because she didn't want to invade his privacy.

Joe says he and Katherine argued about it before Michael's death, but Katherine was firm.

Joe says after Michael died, he said to Katherine, "I said this would have never happened if you had went and been with him."

Joe -- who was intentionally cut out of Michael's will -- is fighting to get an allowance from the estate.  And get this -- we're told Katherine has been giving Joe money and going along with his efforts to earn a living off MJ.

 'this' can mean anything..

Sounds to me that Michael definitely got a hold of Joe.  

[MJ_Facts]

Ughhhhhh! I'm so tired of all this BS! Supposedly that Mike has really died, but not at 2:20 pm, but ("official time of death, but before 10:00 am. What's the point of doing this? It doesn't make sense to me ! And second, if he was dead for so many hours it would be IMPOSSIBLE to transfer his body just by covering it with a white sheet! Impossible!!!Moreover, supposedly that the ambulance photo is NOT fake, then after more than 2 hours Mike's face should had already been at least nigrecent!(I hope I used the precise word)
I don't want to mention La Toaya's  claims about his hands which according to her were still worm etc. Because she tends to lie alot!

But is is possible to cover a surfboard with a white sheet   for distraction reasons ... Remember the "feet" - not stiff

[MJ_Facts]

So is it possible that MJ was with his father and close friend as he left for LAX ?  Is that why Joe didn't make it to the hospital because he was helping MJ get away at that time.......? I remember he only went to the Encino Ranch later on..  

That would explain why nobody was out the front of the house and why there were so many other cars already parked there in the foyer???

That makes more sense to me, then Murray going to the toilet for a few mins...and coming back to find him dead......so Murray is then definitely playing a part in this if this info is correct...(Don't like Dianne Diamond either)...but she does seem to have some new facts I'd never heard before either....

There was something about Michael trying to contact Joe on the 24th of June.. I can't find it anywhere, but I do remember it.. Maybe someone else remembers too. But it said something about Michael wanting Joe there.. to fix things.. something to that effect.

Yes, MJ said something like "Call Joe, I need him to clean this mess up" or something like this. But unfortunately, this information comes from Perez Hilton     who allegedly asked the personnell in MJ's house and they told him that MJ said this.
Unfortunately, I cannot find the article anymore.

Perhaps Joe helped Mike ... who knows ...

[billiejean17]

MJ had skin cancer on nose? lol tabloid much? she always felt she outlive MJ for way he lived his life? she sounds like word for female dog to me.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[simplyme]

Wasn't the LAX closed down around that time?Or am I wrong...

There were some 15/20 min. delays due to weather but I didn't save the info.  People have posted the info somewhere.  I can't seem to search for delays specifically now but if you go to "FlightStats" and register you can look up 6.26.2009 and search all departtures by the hour.  There is nothing unusual.  There are some flight delays - short to longer for some flights but there are hundreds and they all took off pretty much on time the entire day.  That rumor that LAX was closed is not true.

 :?:

Is there a reason you'd look at 6/26/2009 instead of 6/25/2009?

Just a typo.  To be sure I looked at the right day I went back and did it again.  I had done this last year but didn't save.  I look at these all the time anyway for travel and there really wasn't anything unusual.  The N/A for destination didn't exist as I remember and it isn't there now.  There are "unknown" landing times from when planes left the airport but that's not unusual either.  Many flights have short delays to long delays everyday.  
That morning just before 8am they were reporting a "low weather ceiling" with an increasing trend with 16-30 minute delays.  There was more specific information and the flights that delayed, but again, I didn't save it.  If I can find it I will post it.
He would have left from a private field anyway.

[DancingTheDream]

Hmmm.... interesting.

The removal of skin cancer from the nose could explain the gauze on the tip of the nose that was reported in the autopsy.

[simplyme]

Wasn't the LAX closed down around that time?Or am I wrong...

There were some 15/20 min. delays due to weather but I didn't save the info.  People have posted the info somewhere.  I can't seem to search for delays specifically now but if you go to "FlightStats" and register you can look up 6.26.2009 and search all departtures by the hour.  There is nothing unusual.  There are some flight delays - short to longer for some flights but there are hundreds and they all took off pretty much on time the entire day.  That rumor that LAX was closed is not true.

 :?:

These are some of the departures between 9 and 10 that morning.  I didn't post them all.  There is a lot more.  The first time is the scheduled departure; the second is when it really left.  There are lots of flights all the way up to 10am and beyond.  

Is there a reason you'd look at 6/26/2009 instead of 6/25/2009?

 Horizon Air 8:55 AM     Cancelled
 DH4  
RDM Redmond AS 2330^  Alaska Airlines 8:55 AM     Cancelled
 DH4  
RDM Redmond DL 9103^  Delta Air Lines 8:55 AM     Cancelled
 DH4  
PHX Phoenix OO 6526  SkyWest Airlines 8:56 AM  8:53 AM  T-8
83  Landed
  On-time  CR7  
PHX Phoenix UA 6526^  United Airlines 8:56 AM  8:53 AM  T-8
83  Landed
  On-time  CR7  
PHX Phoenix AC 4382^  Air Canada 8:56 AM  8:53 AM  T-8
83  Landed
  On-time  CR7  
OXR Oxnard OO 6296  SkyWest Airlines 8:59 AM  9:09 AM  T-8
87  Landed
  On-time  EM2  
OXR Oxnard UA 6296^  United Airlines 8:59 AM  9:09 AM  T-8
87  Landed
  On-time  EM2  
IAH Houston CO 1594  Continental Airlines 9:00 AM  8:57 AM  T-6
60  Landed
  On-time  738  
IAH Houston CM 2494^  COPA 9:00 AM  8:57 AM  T-6
60  Landed
  On-time  738  
IAH Houston DL 7200^  Delta Air Lines 9:00 AM  8:57 AM  T-6
60  Landed
  On-time  738  
PSP Palm Springs OO 6300  SkyWest Airlines 9:00 AM  9:00 AM  88A  Landed
  On-time  EM2  
PSP Palm Springs UA 6300^  United Airlines 9:00 AM  9:00 AM  88A  Landed
  On-time  EM2  
PSP Palm Springs AC 4004^  Air Canada 9:00 AM  9:00 AM  88A  Landed
  On-time  EM2  
IAD Washington AA 76  American Airlines 9:00 AM  9:23 AM  T-4
47B  Landed
  On-time  757  
IAD Washington AS 1815^  Alaska Airlines 9:00 AM  9:23 AM  T-4
47B  Landed
  On-time  757  
IAD Washington IB 7059^  Iberia 9:00 AM  9:23 AM  T-4
47B  Landed
  On-time  757  
IAD Washington QF 3085^  Qantas Airways 9:00 AM  9:23 AM  T-4
47B  Landed
  On-time  757  

LAS Las Vegas US 102  US Airways 9:00 AM  8:56 AM  T-1
8  Landed
  On-time  319  
LAS Las Vegas NZ 3748^  Air New Zealand 9:00 AM  8:56 AM  T-1
8  Landed
  On-time  319  
LAS Las Vegas OZ 9411^  Asiana Airlines 9:00 AM  8:56 AM  T-1
8  Landed
  On-time  319  
LAS Las Vegas UA 2589^  United Airlines 9:00 AM  8:56 AM  T-1
8  Landed
  On-time  319  
OAK Oakland WN 3603  Southwest Airlines 9:00 AM  9:08 AM  T-1
4A  Landed
  On-time  733  
MIA Miami AA 280  American Airlines 9:00 AM  9:13 AM  T-4
46A  Landed
  On-time  757  
MIA Miami AS 1717^  Alaska Airlines 9:00 AM  9:13 AM  T-4
46A  Landed
  On-time  757  
MIA Miami QF 3131^  Qantas Airways 9:00 AM  9:13 AM  T-4
46A  Landed
  On-time  757  
SJD San Jose Cabo AS 7606  Alaska Airlines 9:00 AM  9:00 AM  T-4
34  Landed
  On-time  73H  
DEN Denver WN 133  Southwest Airlines 9:05 AM  9:17 AM  T-1
3  Landed
  On-time  73G  
MDW Chicago WN 1187  Southwest Airlines 9:05 AM  9:14 AM  T-1
13  Landed
  On-time  733  
YVR Vancouver OO 6114  SkyWest Airlines 9:12 AM  9:09 AM  T-8
82  Landed
  On-time  CR7  
YVR Vancouver UA 6114^  United Airlines 9:12 AM  9:09 AM  T-8
82  Landed
  On-time  CR7  
YVR Vancouver AC 4141^  Air Canada 9:12 AM  9:09 AM  T-8
82  Landed
  On-time  CR7  
IAD Washington UA 966  United Airlines 9:14 AM  9:13 AM  T-7
73  Landed
  On-time  319  
IAD Washington AP 6410^  Air One 9:14 AM  9:13 AM  T-7
73  Landed
  On-time  319  
IAD Washington JJ 7454^  TAM Linhas Aereas 9:14 AM  9:13 AM  T-7
73  Landed
  On-time  319  
IAD Washington NZ 9046^  Air New Zealand 9:14 AM  9:13 AM  T-7
73  Landed
  On-time  319  
IAD Washington US 6500^  US Airways 9:14 AM  9:13 AM  T-7
73  Landed
  On-time  319  
SJC San Jose WN 225  Southwest Airlines 9:15 AM  9:29 AM  T-1
7  Landed
  On-time  73G  
LAS Las Vegas WN 1071  Southwest Airlines 9:15 AM  9:33 AM  T-1
11  Landed
  On-time  73G  
JFK New York QF 107  Qantas Airways 9:15 AM  9:27 AM  T-B  Landed
  16 min  744  
JFK New York AA 7365^  American Airlines 9:15 AM  9:27 AM  T-B  Landed
  16 min  744  
SAN San Diego MQ 3055  American Eagle 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego AA 3055^  American Airlines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego AS 4225^  Alaska Airlines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego CO 8864^  Continental Airlines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego DL 7589^  Delta Air Lines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego HA 3055^  Hawaiian Airlines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego LA 8203^  Lan Airlines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego LY 8167^  El Al 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego NW 5555^  Northwest Airlines 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SAN San Diego QF 3181^  Qantas Airways 9:15 AM  11:27 AM  T-4
44F  Landed
  119 min  ERD  
SJC San Jose MQ 3190  American Eagle 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD
SJC San Jose AA 3190^  American Airlines 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD  
SJC San Jose AS 4144^  Alaska Airlines 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD  
SJC San Jose DL 7618^  Delta Air Lines 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD  
SJC San Jose LA 6849^  Lan Airlines 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD  
SJC San Jose LY 8170^  El Al 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD  
SJC San Jose QF 3291^  Qantas Airways 9:15 AM  9:24 AM  T-4
44J  Landed
  On-time  ERD  
DEN Denver F9 104  Frontier Airlines 9:20 AM  9:16 AM  T-6
67A  Landed
  On-time  319  
MFR Medford QX 2424  Horizon Air 9:20 AM  9:20 AM   Landed
  On-time  DH4  
MFR Medford AS 2424^  Alaska Airlines 9:20 AM  9:20 AM   Landed
  On-time  DH4  
MFR Medford AA 7587^  American Airlines 9:20 AM  9:20 AM   Landed
  On-time  DH4  
MFR Medford CO 8630^  Continental Airlines 9:20 AM  9:20 AM   Landed
  On-time  DH4  
MFR Medford DL 9111^  Delta Air Lines 9:20 AM  9:20 AM   Landed
  On-time  DH4  
MFR Medford NW 5171^  Northwest Airlines 9:20 AM  9:20 AM   Landed
  On-time  DH4  
BWI Baltimore UA 306  United Airlines 9:20 AM  9:19 AM  T-7
70B  Landed
  On-time  320  
BWI Baltimore US 6302^  US Airways 9:20 AM  9:19 AM  T-7
70B  Landed
  On-time  320  
JFK New York AA 2  American Airlines 9:30 AM  9:55 AM  T-4
47A  Landed
  On-time  762  
JFK New York AS 1645^  Alaska Airlines 9:30 AM  9:55 AM  T-4
47A  Landed
  On-time  762

[mjj29081958]

Hmmm.... interesting.

The removal of skin cancer from the nose could explain the gauze on the tip of the nose that was reported in the autopsy.

If so, they'd have made also a description of the scar. But there wasn't scar on the tip of the nose, though...

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

Wasn't the LAX closed down around that time?Or am I wrong...

There were some 15/20 min. delays due to weather but I didn't save the info.  People have posted the info somewhere.  I can't seem to search for delays specifically now but if you go to "FlightStats" and register you can look up 6.26.2009 and search all departtures by the hour.  There is nothing unusual.  There are some flight delays - short to longer for some flights but there are hundreds and they all took off pretty much on time the entire day.  That rumor that LAX was closed is not true.

LAX was closed for a period on 6/25/2009  yourquoted 6/26/2009 that is surely a typo,   THEREFORE LAX was closed on 25/6/2009, IS TRUE

As always with L.O.V.E..

 

[AnaMarcia]

So is it possible that MJ was with his father and close friend as he left for LAX ?  Is that why Joe didn't make it to the hospital because he was helping MJ get away at that time.......? I remember he only went to the Encino Ranch later on..  

That would explain why nobody was out the front of the house and why there were so many other cars already parked there in the foyer???

That makes more sense to me, then Murray going to the toilet for a few mins...and coming back to find him dead......so Murray is then definitely playing a part in this if this info is correct...(Don't like Dianne Diamond either)...but she does seem to have some new facts I'd never heard before either....

To me, Joe is the person who most helped in this Mike Hoax ...
Mike did not hate him, was thankful to him for everything he has achieved.
Joe can be the person more confident to the Mike, after all he is your father!

Dianne Diammond... Michael hopefully resolve sue her for defamation. I don't know why he has not done it still!

[GreenManMakeAChange]

May I see a screencap that this really happened with the private helicopter and a report that the LAX was being closed?