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[nevernevernever]

At least many do understand the TIAI message, and many may be still dismissive, but will likely start to understand after the bam. The whole hoax community is familiar with TIAI but maybe need that extra little push (i.e. Mike returning and explaining).

TS did all he could do to make people see he isn't playing games, I can understand he must be frustrated at times. Time will tell and after the BAM I think many more will see the importance of TIAI.

I could add a couple more people to the "list of frustrated".  I can easily picture the hair pulling, nail biting and #@(~^#@! that must have occurred over the last months when people were spoon fed and the message was spelled out to them, yet it still did not click...  Breath in, breath out...count to 999...and keep on walking...

Got you !!

[paula-c]

And I think people are completely divorced from the message, and are is more interested in the possible date of BAM

[Adi]

At least many do understand the TIAI message, and many may be still dismissive, but will likely start to understand after the bam. The whole hoax community is familiar with TIAI but maybe need that extra little push (i.e. Mike returning and explaining).

TS did all he could do to make people see he isn't playing games, I can understand he must be frustrated at times. Time will tell and after the BAM I think many more will see the importance of TIAI.

I agree....

I read this redirect as a positive thing from TS - basically telling us that Michael will return or "BAM"  no matter, because he has set a deadline for himself......once everyone hears what Michael has to say himself then all of us who believed will finally unite properly and realise the message that he has been trying to communicate to us via TS IS real and IS serious and we will be there for him to carry that message even further.

The majority of believers know about TS/TIAI and even if they don't believe that TS has valid information they are still VERY much aware of what TS/TIAI has been trying to tell ALL of us these past 9 months. As Souza says, the extra "push" by MJ returning will go a huge way in helping EVERYONE understand Michael's message.

[Sarahli]

Maybe that TS redirected to this also because of our divisions on going to the media or not, on talking about Elvis or not. It can also mean that regardless of how many people are convinced in doing this kind of missions, regardless of its success Michael will come back and will take the necessary decisions to make it possible.

The Bam seems to be coming soon. I think that we are in the final phase of the return process.

[suspicious mind]

mark 13:33
Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

just as the return of Christ.

some think we are seeing the greatest show on earth.

i think we are seeing michael's version of  The Greatest Story Ever Told

[Hazzely]

At least many do understand the TIAI message, and many may be still dismissive, but will likely start to understand after the bam. The whole hoax community is familiar with TIAI but maybe need that extra little push (i.e. Mike returning and explaining).

TS did all he could do to make people see he isn't playing games, I can understand he must be frustrated at times. Time will tell and after the BAM I think many more will see the importance of TIAI.

I agree....

I read this redirect as a positive thing from TS - basically telling us that Michael will return or "BAM"  no matter, because he has set a deadline for himself......once everyone hears what Michael has to say himself then all of us who believed will finally unite properly and realise the message that he has been trying to communicate to us via TS IS real and IS serious and we will be there for him to carry that message even further.

The majority of believers know about TS/TIAI and even if they don't believe that TS has valid information they are still VERY much aware of what TS/TIAI has been trying to tell ALL of us these past 9 months. As Souza says, the extra "push" by MJ returning will go a huge way in helping EVERYONE understand Michael's message.

I agree. I used to believe in TS until the E and MJ thing happened (I don't want to start a discussion about this now..trying to avoid it but I had to mention it so you could get my point). We all have our beliefs and we all might see things different..Everyone is trying to seek justice for Michael and support him in our own way and that's why when there's something we don't think it's good for him or that it could hurt him we obviously won't support it. Many of us considered and still consider E&M was not a good idea, which is the reason why we opposed it, so in consequence we slowly started to lose faith in TS since for a week or even more all the redirects were about Elvis (not Michael anymore) and it seemed he was giving a damn many people were against it, yet that doesn't mean we don't know what TIAI is about, what's its message or that we don't follow him..We do follow him in our own way, and we do support him when our heart says so, I don't like to follow anyone blindly and even less when I might not agree with that person on everything
I just hope TS starts focusing on Michael again because that's why we are here, and as selfish as this might sound let Elvis and Eliza be, let them find their own truth and not involve Michael in it regardless the coincidences you might find along the way..the less problems and stories we come up with the easier we will be able to unfold the truth
Sometimes the simplest theories are the ones that can lead us to the answer to what happened on 25th of June.

To me Michael's comeback is not the most important thing to be honest..knowing he is alive and doing well is enough..if he wants to return then I will be here for him supporting him like I did until now..No one will force him to come back, he can take his time and decide..However we must always be prepared for a "bam" (and not everyone is ;S yet) and that's why in order to make this worth it we must go back to where we began: Michael's message in TII

That was it..I guess..

[*Mo*]

There are no coincidences...especially not in this matter...

[curls]

I think that the 'Army of Love' will not just be us here on MJDHI either. When/if MJ returns and everyone knows he's alive and hears his message, we'll be joined by all the thousands of 'fans', supporters and admirers around the world on all the other forums and websites - once they get over the shock that is!  :o  Part of our job then will, I think, be to 'school the world'.

I hope you're correct in your interpretation of today's redirect, those of you who see it as a positive sign of MJ returning regardless of our actions, or inactions.  I have to admit I felt a bit like I was being told off for failing!  :oops:

[paula-c]

If Sarahli I think also has to do with our divisions, and the opinions of each one of us, apart from that he will return. We are part of this, we have a lot of tracks, and we must not lose faith whether alive or not, as TS said Elvis fans have kept the faith for over 30 years, with fewer tracks that we ( I do not mean we have to be 30 years on this), nobody died.
For the return must remember what he said about returning to the entertainment TS, and the battle about to begin;

And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing! But don't expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you've read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE). And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/threatened-lyrics.html}: "What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning."

I think the drive and of course I think about the welfare of Michael, once in this forum I thought of his being not return, but all this was planned by

[Adi]

At least many do understand the TIAI message, and many may be still dismissive, but will likely start to understand after the bam. The whole hoax community is familiar with TIAI but maybe need that extra little push (i.e. Mike returning and explaining).

TS did all he could do to make people see he isn't playing games, I can understand he must be frustrated at times. Time will tell and after the BAM I think many more will see the importance of TIAI.

I agree....

I read this redirect as a positive thing from TS - basically telling us that Michael will return or "BAM"  no matter, because he has set a deadline for himself......once everyone hears what Michael has to say himself then all of us who believed will finally unite properly and realise the message that he has been trying to communicate to us via TS IS real and IS serious and we will be there for him to carry that message even further.

The majority of believers know about TS/TIAI and even if they don't believe that TS has valid information they are still VERY much aware of what TS/TIAI has been trying to tell ALL of us these past 9 months. As Souza says, the extra "push" by MJ returning will go a huge way in helping EVERYONE understand Michael's message.

I agree. I used to believe in TS until the E and MJ thing happened (I don't want to start a discussion about this now..trying to avoid it but I had to mention it so you could get my point). We all have our beliefs and we all might see things different..Everyone is trying to seek justice for Michael and support him in our own way and that's why when there's something we don't think it's good for him or that it could hurt him we obviously won't support it. Many of us considered and still consider E&M was not a good idea, which is the reason why we opposed it, so in consequence we slowly started to lose faith in TS since for a week or even more all the redirects were about Elvis (not Michael anymore) and it seemed he was giving a damn many people were against it, yet that doesn't mean we don't know what TIAI is about, what's its message or that we don't follow him..We do follow him in our own way, and we do support him when our heart says so, I don't like to follow anyone blindly and even less when I might not agree with that person on everything
I just hope TS starts focusing on Michael again because that's why we are here, and as selfish as this might sound let Elvis and Eliza be, let them find their own truth and not involve Michael in it regardless the coincidences you might find along the way..the less problems and stories we come up with the easier we will be able to unfold the truth
Sometimes the simplest theories are the ones that can lead us to the answer to what happened on 25th of June.

To me Michael's comeback is not the most important thing to be honest..knowing he is alive and doing well is enough..if he wants to return then I will be here for him supporting him like I did until now..No one will force him to come back, he can take his time and decide..However we must always be prepared for a "bam" (and not everyone is ;S yet) and that's why in order to make this worth it we must go back to where we began: Michael's message in TII

That was it..I guess..

Just for clarification, I have always believed that the information TS  has provided us these past 9 months is valid & real and that the message TS has been trying to make us understand comes directly from Michael.
8-)

[lilwendy]

Hum ...   i clearly start to find this redirect  "random" ... i mean , you can easely find a motifve to a new redirect from  a hundred posts in the "TAI redirect" tread.

Sorry IMO, TS must show up and make a new update and clear all this up. I don't know , but ...
:|

ahhh ..well , forget it !!

It's funny you say this... I'm a numbers person and I was thinking this in the shower...

"T=20, S=19

8+1+2010 = 2019

Oh yes! I should suggest to TS that he give us an update on August 1st so this little formula will work! LOL"

yes people even I don't understand why my mind works like this! LOL

[RK]

LilWendy, you scared me there at first glance. I thought you were saying that 2019 would be a good year for MJ to Bam. I'm glad I was able to calm my panic to read what you really posted....Whew.....

[lilwendy]

To me the redirect tells us that we have a limited role in this hoax, as a reply to individuals who claim that Michael doesn't need us to hoax his death, neither to BAM. TS reassures believers of their importance in the return process, but at the same time tells us that it is not only up to us. Michael has a plan which must be accomplished, one way or another. Of course it is important to gather as many followers and soldiers of LOVE, to be prepared to spread the message and to seize the BAM, but Michael cannot wait until everyone wakes up. As Sarahli said, the critical moment is marked and time is running, so he needs to make a quick and decisive move to reverse the process and to make a change.

Moreover, as time passes by, there is the risk of losing the public attention, the interest of media and even the hope of the believers, so Michael cannot afford to postpone the BAM moment for long, because that would endanger the impact of his comeback. I'm sure there are a lot of other factors influencing the BAM, besides the believers. As soon as the time will be right from many perspectives (awakening, message awareness, soldiers of LOVE, media attention, political context, safety, numerology etc.) he will BAM, regardless of how prepared we are. This is today's message: Michael cannot wait for you to wake up so he can BAM, so take attitude until it is too late!

LOVE,
Andy

To me this is kind of like Jesus and the 12 disciples... Jesus had a mission to play out... a ministry that would last 3 years.  He had to get his disciples together, make sure they understood the message, showed them by example, etc. but in the end whether they got it or not didn't postpone the crucifixion and resurrection... it happened anyways.

Now I want to be REALLY CLEAR!!! I am NOT saying Michael is Jesus.  I am NOT saying we are disciples in a new religion founded on Michael's teachings(Michaelanity) :lol: ... I'm just saying that Jesus was an incredible example of following God, rallying troops behind a mission/vision, equipping those people to carry this vision forward without him, just creating an Army for God.

Just like Michael, incredible example of following God and displaying His character (not perfect at it but working on it), rallying troops behind a mission/vision, equipping those people to carry this vision forward without him (via this hoax), and creating an Army for L.O.V.E.

[StrangerInCalifornia]

As others have said, I take this redirect to mean that Michael has to come back sooner or later before it is too late for this planet, but in the meantime we have to continue to spread his message to as many people as possible. Of course I do want him to come back now, but I do understand why he needs to wait. I myself have always felt that Michael was alive. Even when I was grieving for him there was something in my heart that wouldn't let go. I didn't find this forum until the end of May and began to study everything I could including the TIAI posts. This forum only confirmed my beliefs and gave me the tools that I need to spread Michael's message. However if the BAM had been any sooner than June, I would have been left out and surprised by his return. Of course I would have listened to what he had to say, but I think I would have been so caught up in the excitement and finding out HOW he was able to pull off the hoax that I wouldn't have fully understood WHY he did it. I have been sharing this information with my family and friends for what seems like forever now. Two of my best friends have been convinced that he is alive and they've been very excited and they always ask me how he did it and that was all they were interested in. It wasn't until two days ago when they finally stopped to think about it and asked me WHY he did it. Of course I couldn't give them a difinitive answer, but I explained to them many of the possible reasons including the movie theory, the media payback theory, the theory of him getting out of doing the shows, and the theory of him restoring his image and making enough money to get out of debt. The theory I focused the most on though was him hoaxing this death to expose the NWO, the illuminati, and the people that were after him (including possibly Sony), while at the same time spreading awareness of his message. I presented all these theories as one huge complicated theory. I also told them about the Army of L.O.V.E. While my friends are not very computer savvy and will not be joining the forum, but please be assured that there are two more soldiers out there! While I think it is safe to say that all of us are prepared for a BAM, there are many people who are willing to listen and be a part of the Army of L.O.V.E., but just have not recieved the message yet. If everybody is spreading Michael's message, just think how many more people could be aware of it in even a week's time. When Michael comes back he will need all the support he can get. So please be patient and continue to spread his message and act in LOVE in all things you do. Sorry for the long post.

Peace and LOVE to all!

[MJonmind]

Paula-c:
if you've read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE). And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/threatened-lyrics.html}: "What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning."

I think Michael knows human nature thoroughly. He is the one who has set up the death scene and made it so convincing so that all the world, the majority of devout fans, and many of even us, are sure he has indeed been murdered as part of a diobolical plan. He has created just the right balance of hoax details prooving he's is alive and has planned an astounding story line (Thriller 2) and Resurrection. He does want us to feel part of the process because he loves us and knows we want to be part of his life in an intimate way. He has everything timed perfectly, part of a master plan. He doesn't need us. As we all know, after Jesus' death and resurrection, times only got harder, with Christians thrown to the lions, and Jerusalem razed to the ground in 70 AD, the Christians and Israelites dispersed to the winds. I'm not saying we should sit back and relax and not speak up to defend Michael, but I'm saying I don't believe (100%) that MJ is trying to put a bit guilt trip on us, like shame on you for not supporting the MJ and Elvis awareness to the world, and I'm disappointed in you so I've delayed Baming 3 times, so work yourselves into a frenzy over it being all your fault. That is not Michael IMO. This is going to play out as he plans. Our part---love him, support him, enjoy him, love what he loves, stay with him, use your talents for him, welcome him when he returns to "begin" the next chapter/age, "On his command."