MJ's children really live in the Encino house?

[King_Michael]

It doesn't make sense how can they be normal they are Michael Jackson's kids no way they will be able to go to school without harassment from the press, and on you dads anniversary how can you just go on vacation if my dad died I would never get over it, this whole thing is weird

[hope]

I do not know ... But Katherine has announced that as of September this year they will be enrolled in a school as normal, along with other children. Certainly the paparazzi will chase them .. :roll:

What is wrong with this woman lately ? :?

[heisinme09]

Also, I'm quite sure this has been brought up before in another thread, but since we're on the subject of the Kids being in Hawaii on the "Death" Anniversary....was it ever decided who was supervising them? Was it their older cousins? Or a new nanny? I know they have some cousins in their 20's and maybe even 30's...I feel that Michael was very close to Tito's 3 sons (3T) as he did produce/record with them....plus I think he adored being an uncle for many years before becoming a father himself....I'm sure he felt just terrible when their mother was killed in the 90's....I think they were pretty young when that happened....I mention this only to illustrate that they may be considered close enough to Michael to include in the Hoax...

The idea of Michael possibly being in Hawaii is an interesting one! Somehow though, I have this idea he may have moved to a few different locations during the past year...but then again, maybe not...and it's hard to know about Elizabeth Taylor...she is getting up there in age...so her lack of Media visiblity in this last year could be do to that alone....but I love to entertain the idea of the two of them holed up in her house in Hawaii....playing with their Super Shooters! haha....I've always wondered how Katherine felt about Michael's close relationship with another Mother Figure in his life....first, Diana Ross...then, Elizabeth Taylor

The idea of the rest of The Family fanning out across the globe  - and they LITERALLY have - to cause DISTRACTIONS sounds JUST LIKE something Michael would think up....you have to distract over "there" while the magic trick is getting set up to happen over "here"....it's an old Magician's trick....and we all know Mike is one of the best Magicians of all time!

Then again....just had a thought...Michael didn't like to be out in the sun, so Hawaii might be an odd choice for that reason?

[billiejean17]

I do not know ... But Katherine has announced that as of September this year they will be enrolled in a school as normal, along with other children. Certainly the paparazzi will chase them .. :roll:

Whats the betting that they will go to boarding school and suddenly dissapear?

Makes me go mmmmmmmmmmmm?

[mjsgirl89]

I do not know ... But Katherine has announced that as of September this year they will be enrolled in a school as normal, along with other children. Certainly the paparazzi will chase them .. :roll:

Whats the betting that they will go to boarding school and suddenly dissapear?

Makes me go mmmmmmmmmmmm?

That was my thoughts exactly when I heard about the kids might be going to school...I always felt that if the kids get "shipped" off to boarding school that would mean that their going to B w/ Michael...that makes me think there might not B a BAM...at least not 4 a while...idk...I guess we just gotta wait and see what Michael has planned out...U know him being the director of the greatest shoe on Earth and all

[teine21]

Personally when they arrived seperately & left seperately for lunch with Katherine that one time & hugged her like they hadn't seen her for a little while, I started thinking they were staying somewhere else. Also Jermaine said on Larry King that they would be GOING AWAY to PRIVATE school in the fall, that got me thinking too, like maybe they ARE in Encino but won't be much longer. Also, as for the Hawaii pics, I'm kind of wondering if those Hawaii pics were taken so we could see Prince's vitiligo for ourselves & see that he really COULD be MJ's. I heard a rumor they were sold to the paps by Genevieve, who has been the one going to everything with her Grandma & helping her out, maybe it was her role to sell them & some other relative took them.

[DREAMSandTRUTH]

Also, as for the Hawaii pics, I'm kind of wondering if those Hawaii pics were taken so we could see Prince's vitiligo for ourselves & see that he really COULD be MJ's. I heard a rumor they were sold to the paps by Genevieve, who has been the one going to everything with her Grandma & helping her out, maybe it was her role to sell them & some other relative took them.

Exactly. I also think that they were probably taken because of Prince's vitiligo. I haven't heard that rumour of Genevieve yet but it fits in this theory.

Why I brought up the Hawaii photos is because the kids are in swimsuits. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it was a good idea to show the teen Paris in a swimsuit. In the first photo I saw of her she wore some towel around her hip, so that was okay. But later I saw a lot of photos where she wore only the swimsuit. I'm not sure she likes (or will like later) that the whole world saw her in a swimsuit. She is not that young anymore, she is just becoming a woman. If I was her I would surely hate it. But maybe I'm just more shy than most people...

About Hawaii... Do we KNOW that the photos were taken there??? What we can see is only some swimming pool.
But yes, the kids were happy on the 25th, so it says to me also that Michael is alive.

[DREAMSandTRUTH]

I lived 20 minutes away from his encino house .Every night I used to walk to Hayvenhurst and back .I always passed his house .It was like a routine for me I never saw the children but once I saw one of the Jacksons.

Have you ever heard the children (or any children) playing in the garden? Kids are loud when they play. Or was it too late at night when you used to walk there?

[DREAMSandTRUTH]

I do not know ... But Katherine has announced that as of September this year they will be enrolled in a school as normal, along with other children. Certainly the paparazzi will chase them .. :roll:

Yes, I heard it. But who knows which photos are taken by some friend (a real paparazzi or just someone) of Michael/the Jackson family and not by the paparazzies who are not involved. If most of the photos are taken by some friend, then the children are not exposed to that much stress. And also - this way Michael can controll what photos gets into the media.
But honestly, it's very strange for me that the children are in the spotlight now. There are too many photos of them. Even in swimsuits in Hawaii... I don't know why we can see this much photos. Michael never showed their faces before - and since his "death" things came through the other side of the horse. What is it good for to show THIS many photos of those children? Who is behind that?

But let's think ... Katharine does not expose children to some extent, it would certainly be criticized for keeping them in a bubble and not grow as "normal" people. In addition, Mike has committed excesses in the overprotection of them. He always liked to draw attention and create a little controversy, is part of their nature. He always lived this way and do not know how to act differently. If he is alive, certainly supports Katherine, because children are pre-teens and could not get equal treatment for more tempo.imo

In my opinion Michael has been debunking rumors all along and one of the rumors is that the children won't be normal because they've led such a sheltered life, wearing veils in public, etc. They have always been such a mystery. I'm sure that Michael knew this could not last through adulthood.

This, to me, is another way to put to rest all of the rumors saying these children are strange. Because they are anything but...they are bright, beautiful, kind, considerate, well-mannered, well-versed, well-educated children who are normal children but so exceptional in how they have been nurtured by their father. We should leave the children alone. It's their unveiling to the world by Michael and we shouldn't rush ahead of what he wants to accomplish. Just my opinion.

That's it. 8-)

I find it good to show some photos of the children, to show that they are normal kids.
And it was time for them to put their masks on the shelf and show their faces to the world. So it's all okay.
But IMO we can see too much photos of them. Isn't it a shock for the children? It happened to them only within a year. They were always sheltered before, and now they can see themselves in every newspaper. Okay, maybe they are not allowed to read newspapers and use the net, but I doubt that they haven't seen at least half of the photos. Kids are tricky, they find things.
Of course it's not my business...

[Hazzely]

Also, as for the Hawaii pics, I'm kind of wondering if those Hawaii pics were taken so we could see Prince's vitiligo for ourselves & see that he really COULD be MJ's. I heard a rumor they were sold to the paps by Genevieve, who has been the one going to everything with her Grandma & helping her out, maybe it was her role to sell them & some other relative took them.

Exactly. I also think that they were probably taken because of Prince's vitiligo. I haven't heard that rumour of Genevieve yet but it fits in this theory.

Why I brought up the Hawaii photos is because the kids are in swimsuits. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it was a good idea to show the teen Paris in a swimsuit. In the first photo I saw of her she wore some towel around her hip, so that was okay. But later I saw a lot of photos where she wore only the swimsuit. I'm not sure she likes (or will like later) that the whole world saw her in a swimsuit. She is not that young anymore, she is just becoming a woman. If I was her I would surely hate it. But maybe I'm just more shy than most people...

About Hawaii... Do we KNOW that the photos were taken there??? What we can see is only some swimming pool.
But yes, the kids were happy on the 25th, so it says to me also that Michael is alive.

It's weird because some of the pics taken in Hawaii are owned by the National Photo Group
I have just read on a site that (and I quote) :

There were only 3 photographers – Chris Weiss, Ben Evenstad and Alfred Ibanez. --> She is talking about the ambulance pic
The purpose was to do it at home pictures of Michael. (But they were under the house long before Michael! Even as Michael still ‘not dead’).
They all work for a photographic agency „NPG”…(this is the agency that works with Michael from about 10 years, and her boss is Ben Evenstad, a good friend Mike)

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We all knew that but it makes you go like " mmm  :roll:  " They are always there taking exclusive pics.. how opportune

[DREAMSandTRUTH]

Also, as for the Hawaii pics, I'm kind of wondering if those Hawaii pics were taken so we could see Prince's vitiligo for ourselves & see that he really COULD be MJ's. I heard a rumor they were sold to the paps by Genevieve, who has been the one going to everything with her Grandma & helping her out, maybe it was her role to sell them & some other relative took them.

Exactly. I also think that they were probably taken because of Prince's vitiligo. I haven't heard that rumour of Genevieve yet but it fits in this theory.

Why I brought up the Hawaii photos is because the kids are in swimsuits. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it was a good idea to show the teen Paris in a swimsuit. In the first photo I saw of her she wore some towel around her hip, so that was okay. But later I saw a lot of photos where she wore only the swimsuit. I'm not sure she likes (or will like later) that the whole world saw her in a swimsuit. She is not that young anymore, she is just becoming a woman. If I was her I would surely hate it. But maybe I'm just more shy than most people...

About Hawaii... Do we KNOW that the photos were taken there??? What we can see is only some swimming pool.
But yes, the kids were happy on the 25th, so it says to me also that Michael is alive.

It's weird because some of the pics taken in Hawaii are owned by the National Photo Group
I have just read on a site that (and I quote) :

There were only 3 photographers – Chris Weiss, Ben Evenstad and Alfred Ibanez. --> She is talking about the ambulance pic
The purpose was to do it at home pictures of Michael. (But they were under the house long before Michael! Even as Michael still ‘not dead’).
They all work for a photographic agency „NPG”…(this is the agency that works with Michael from about 10 years, and her boss is Ben Evenstad, a good friend Mike)

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We all knew that but it makes you go like " mmm  :roll:  " They are always there taking exclusive pics.. how opportune

This is what I thought of when I said at the beginning that I feel that most of the photos of the children are taken by some friend of Michael. I don't think they let the paparazzies near the children - the family, or some professional friends (like Ben Evenstad) take the photos we can see. This is why generally we cannot see any recognizable backgrounds/places. The photos can be taken anywhere, and it's just said that they were taken here and there. Just my opinion.

[Muinasjutumaja]

I lived 20 minutes away from his encino house .Every night I used to walk to Hayvenhurst and back .I always passed his house .It was like a routine for me I never saw the children but once I saw one of the Jacksons.

Have you ever heard the children (or any children) playing in the garden? Kids are loud when they play. Or was it too late at night when you used to walk there?

Sometimes I would go in daytime and sometimes later in the evening but I never heard any of the children .Maybe because the house is not so close to the gates because I think the security house (small white one that has the lights on even at 2 am ) comes first and then their house is back there and it is quite far from the gates.But I remember that one tuesday evening I walked by and they had their garbage cans outside.A lot of them(about 8 or 9 ) and I was wondering why so many.Some of the cans were open and you could see what was inside.Mostly it was cardboard boxes .I think they buy a lot of things  because I saw a lot of  cardboard boxes like 2 weeks in a row .You could also see a matress for a baby or a dog I am not sure for who it was meant ...But I did not go to trash cans to steal anything or to find something, they were open because they were so full,so do not get me wrong :lol:

[DREAMSandTRUTH]

I lived 20 minutes away from his encino house .Every night I used to walk to Hayvenhurst and back .I always passed his house .It was like a routine for me I never saw the children but once I saw one of the Jacksons.

Have you ever heard the children (or any children) playing in the garden? Kids are loud when they play. Or was it too late at night when you used to walk there?

Sometimes I would go in daytime and sometimes later in the evening but I never heard any of the children .Maybe because the house is not so close to the gates because I think the security house (small white one that has the lights on even at 2 am ) comes first and then their house is back there and it is quite far from the gates.But I remember that one tuesday evening I walked by and they had their garbage cans outside.A lot of them(about 8 or 9 ) and I was wondering why so many.Some of the cans were open and you could see what was inside.Mostly it was cardboard boxes .I think they buy a lot of things  because I saw a lot of  cardboard boxes like 2 weeks in a row .You could also see a matress for a baby or a dog I am not sure for who it was meant ...But I did not go to trash cans to steal anything or to find something, they were open because they were so full,so do not get me wrong :lol:

Thank you Muinasjutumaja! So you never heard the children... It's a little strange for me. Because I bet the children (like any children) play everywhere in the garden, also near to the gates and the security house. Children like to go everywhere in a garden. And unless they have a double fence whith a huge place between the two, people from the street can hear them playing. Mainly if they play waterballoon fight  
About the cardboard boxes - well, they surely buy lots of thing for many reasons...

[airieslady]

Another odd thing about this subject... since we started talking about this...tonight on TMZ is a part about the Encino house...they say "where the kids supposedly stayed"...they showed the inside of a room with "handcarved seats" in front of a bar w. a bartender mannekin behind... then they showed a "flower shop" with a picture window outside in the courtyard and said "do they sell them?"... then they showed a "puppet shop" with picture window also outside in courtyard and everyone went "oooh, weird...oooh strange!"   It just seems odd that they would mention this tonight after we talk about the Encino house.  

[2MuchMJLuv]

I am overwhelmed with thoughts regarding MJ3--and there is a BIG part of me that hates the fact that they have been exposed to the media. The fact that MJ detested it before his "death" leads me to believe that they are being used to redirect the media's attention while other things are brewing. It's a family affair, and his nieces and nephews are in on it too. I don't live too far from Hayvenhurst, I don't visit everyday, but I honestly don't think that they live there. In fact, I have said several times before that they're actually making appearances on MJ's stage in the grand scheme of it all. I believe that they are living with MJ.