Discussion about making the media aware of ElvisAndMJ.com

[~Souza~]

We need to start somewhere and I think we should start by mailing the media about ElvisAndMJ.com. If we collect the e-mail addresses of various media outlets here I think all of us should mail them about the site.

There are some excellent writers here and I want to ask you if some of you could make a draft e-mail, so everyone can mail the same info/evidence to the media. This should include of course the website url, videos about the DNA evidence, links to articles and blogs about Eliza's case and good arguments as to why it's obvious that both men are still alive and kicking.

If we mail enough media outlets (worldwide) we might get some of them to report about it. And as we have seen with the Sun article, it can snowball from there.

The mailing list so far:

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The tweet list so far:

@petervdvorst
@gerardekdom
@giel3fm
@EversStaatOp538
@ruuddewild
@stcom
@thenewpaper
@inquirerdotnet
@nationnews
@NgTzeYong
@latimescitydesk
@latimeslocal
@lanow
@Oregon_Live
@cnnbrk
@HuffingtonPost

If everyone can gather e-mail addresses (and/or Twitter accounts) in this thread, and a few can make a good strong e-mail draft, we can all mail them at once. I will copy all the addresses and Twitter accounts in this post, so it will be easy to copy and paste. Please add as much e-mail addresses etc. from your country/state. Let's see if they will still ignore it.

[trublu]

Should we be careful about who we mail? I mean the Sun totally twisted what you guys said and tried to make beLIEvers sound a bit silly. I would hate that to happen again as I think it actually just created a wider gap between 'us and 'them' (by them I mean non-believers). If we can somehow get through to a responsible news outlet then that would be awesome.

[somekindofsign]

Sorry, but don´t count on me.

Oh, and I don´t wanna be this new red thing.

[~Souza~]

Should we be careful about who we mail? I mean the Sun totally twisted what you guys said and tried to make beLIEvers sound a bit silly. I would hate that to happen again as I think it actually just created a wider gap between 'us and 'them' (by them I mean non-believers). If we can somehow get through to a responsible news outlet then that would be awesome.

I see where you are coming from, yet we did expose the Sun on the website after they posted that article. That is why the e-mail we send should be very well argumented. The media that contacted us AFTER the Sun article, was merely interested in the fact that they screwed us and many articles and blogs back then linked to the page with the real e-mails we sent, so everyone could read exactly what we wrote to her.

If we want attention to the site, the media is our best shot. People will enter the url and will read for themselves, even if an article is making fun of us. They will read about the undeniable DNA evidence of which I am sure most people don't even know about.

It's not about what an article says, as long as people will go to the webpage and read. And since people are nosey and curious by nature, they will, we saw what the Sun article did to the traffic on the websites.

[~Souza~]

Sorry, but don´t count on me.

Oh, and I don´t wanna be this new red thing.

We won't, and no problem, I removed you from the group.

[Hazzely]

Whoa, I'm sorry I don't think it's a good idea
I think we went already too far with the Elvisandmjdotcom theory and I don't really care if it was TS who came up with this, the media shouldn't be involved, this is Michael's hoax, let's let HIM lead it, in his own way..
We shouldn't prepare the media for his return, Michael is the one who should take them by surprise and take his revenge back, plus this Elvisandmjdotcom doesn't look credible enough to make the media aware of it..
I don't know if Michael would want this to be in the news..

This is just the way I see it, and I suppose there're many people who believe the same but they won't voice their opinion because they don't want others to get mad at them or to get involved in an argument..

I hope no one feels ofended by this, it's just the way I see it

[Heartbreaker]

Whoa, I'm sorry I don't think it's a good idea
I think we went already too far with the Elvisandmjdotcom theory and I don't really care if it was TS who came up with this, the media shouldn't be involved, this is Michael's hoax, let's let HIM lead it, in his own way..
We shouldn't prepare the media for his return, Michael is the one who should take them by surprise and take his revenge back, plus this Elvisandmjdotcom doesn't look credible enough to make the media aware of it..
I don't know if Michael would want this to be in the news..

This is just the way I see it, and I suppose there're many people who believe the same but they won't voice their opinion because they don't want others to get mad at them or to get involved in an argument..

I hope no one feels ofended by this, it's just the way I see it

Hazzely
I agree with you
Exactly how I see it also. The media is Michael's enemy.

[vercors]

Finally, consider me as IN before I change my mind again  

[angelshadow]

I will do everything for Michael!!! I will not be present, I do not go to the media ......

[JukeBox]

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In fact, all you need to do is ask people to go to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login whether they are Elvis fans, or MJ fans, or anyone really—maybe we can even get the attention of the media!

I trust TS... don't know if this is along the lines of what TS is thinking, but if it is, i'll do it for sure.

[Magnolia1791]

Unfortunately I can not stand behind this idea.
Why we don't focus on Michael's real intention and message? What he wanted to change with the Army of L.O.V.E. in human consciousness is so much more important. I think the media can quickly use #elvisandmjdotcom against us. In the end in the public opinion we will be the stupid, those who have enriched the world by a new conspiracy-theory. For me the message of the Army of L.O.V.E. is too important to lose credibility.
Don't get me wrong. I'm willing to do (almost) everything that can be done in Michael's sense. But to give #elvisandmjdotcom to the press is not one of my favorite ideas.
Do you think that Michael wanted us do that #elvisandmjdotcom-thing?

[ForstAMoon]

I think this is not the bad idea to get the public exposed to this and I do not see many ways to reach the public other than trying to get media attention.

Elvis has been dead much longer than MJ and media was already talking in the past about people believing Elvis was alive. It seems that with the new DNA evidence, at least some of media houses are still talking about this. But I have not seen a lot of talks on MJ faking his death.

The first reaction I get from almost anyone taking MJ might be alive is yeah, sure and Elvis is alive as well, give me a break... I am sure you have heard this also.
So it seems that most of people I talked to knew about „Elvis still alive“ subject very well.

So why there cannot be „MJ still alive“ discussion?

If we believe this is a hoax, and presumalby since we are here we believe or at least some of us believe, then probably some of us also feel that this hoax is not only about MJ escaping to live a „normal“ life someplace else but rather to get The Message out.

We may not agree all what is The Message: heal the planet? love for children? expose dirty mind games or conspiracies? or sth else or all of the above. But at the end of a day it is all for LOVE, regardless what kind of definition we apply.

We do not know who in the hoax inner circle, who is aware and who is not, but still none of the family members or people that have been close to MJ said nothing IMO, to discourage us hoaxers. On the contrary they seem to encourage us to follow the path by saying: „it is conspiracy“, „Murray fall guy“, „they have always been after him“, „it will all come up“. Plus why the hell some family members are talking MJ was abusing drugs – regardless if this is true or not - isn’t it just helping Murray's defence?

Since June last year, for obvious reasons, there have been anormus news and talking about MJ. Definitely much more than if he would had got for This Is It concerts. Plus, what is more important I think, a lot of the discussion was not only about MJ as an artist but MJ as a human being. Probably for the first time after long long time. Why not to leverage on that?

I can imagine the question: spreading the message is one thing but Elvis and MJ is another. Yes, but at least for me this might be just the first step to get the message out. „Elvis still alive“ idea is already out there, so why not to leverage on this also? Once the doubt is there, maybe some people will start to dig into it, same as we did months ago, with a difference that there is so much good info already they can read.

Once there is MJ is alive topic out there, then it might be time to ask the question why? Why did he do this? It all of course may take time and patiency but regardless of what The Message is, by asking why question, it might be exposed and listened to.

The hoax did not reach millions, I do not know of course if it was assumed it would or not, but still, it reached us.
 
Of course we might be wrong doing this but isn’t everybody close to MJ taking about MJ legacy and spreading his message?

On my small personal experience. When last year I spoke to couple of my collegues about MJ being alive, they thought I was completely crazy and did not want to listen. I did never surrender and from time to time gave them a hint of what was going on. I was still called crazy... but after couple of months, it is them right now to ask me questions about MJ and it is not only hoax related. I call it my small success.

And as a closing remark, what do we risk by going to media: that they will call us insane? SO WHAT? Why do we care?

We all have choice what to do, but I am 100% supportive of the idea and am trying to figure out how to do best do this.

[Magnolia1791]

Unfortunately I can not stand behind this idea.
Why we don't focus on Michael's real intention and message? What he wanted to change with the Army of L.O.V.E. in human consciousness is so much more important. I think the media can quickly use #elvisandmjdotcom against us. In the end in the public opinion we will be the stupid, those who have enriched the world by a new conspiracy-theory. For me the message of the Army of L.O.V.E. is too important to lose credibility.
Don't get me wrong. I'm willing to do (almost) everything that can be done in Michael's sense. But to give #elvisandmjdotcom to the press is not one of my favorite ideas.
Do you think that Michael wanted us do that #elvisandmjdotcom-thing?

[/b] Please convince me of this idea... I really don't know...

[*Mo*]

To those who object to informing the media:

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The hoax IS already in the media, so contacting the media about it is nothing new.

The Elvis/Eliza/DNA subject is also already in the media as Foxnews did items on it.

I still have the feeling that more people need to be aware of these hoaxes before the hoax can progress.

Mike did not hoax his death for nothing, he has a purpose.  We need to let people know about it, we need to spread the word.  In my opinion, it's our task.  

Many people are waiting for a BAM, but I don't think that BAM can take place unless enough people are aware of what had happened, and what needs to be done.

[*Mo*]

Unfortunately I can not stand behind this idea.
Why we don't focus on Michael's real intention and message? What he wanted to change with the Army of L.O.V.E. in human consciousness is so much more important.

How big is Mike's Army of L.O.V.E. now..?  Do you think enough people joined to make that change..?  I don't think so, we're far from enough people to accomplish a change.

That is why more people need to know about the hoax, so that they too can join Mike's Army of L.O.V.E. too.