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[Person]

OK. DEBATE OVER. YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW? YOU DON'T KNOW HIM EITHER. HOW DO YOU KNOW HIS LIFE WAS IN DANGER? HOW DO YOU KNOW EVERYBODY IS ACTING? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHETHER HE WAS IN DEBT OR NOT? YOU DON'T KNOW. YOU DON'T KNOW MUCH MORE THAN ME. LIKE ME, YOU ARE JUST ADMIRERERS FROM A DISTANCE. THE ONLY THING YOU KNOW IS WHAT MICHAEL ALLOWED TO BE SEEN IN VIDEOS AND HEARD IN RECORDINGS. SO NONE OF US KNOW MICHAEL.

[PrincessMuffybear]

Michael hasn't broken any laws in the US so it is highly unlikely he would be arrested when he returns.

I think there is a very good explanation for why he needed to leave...I am sure when he returns it will be abundantly clear.  

God Bless  

[karen-ishealive]

There is more proof MJ is alive than dead. His family and friends have made alot of slip ups and there are way too many inconsistencies and contradictions for this "death" to be real. If you're not a believer then you're on the wrong site and if you believe MJ is dead then that's your beliefs. We believe he's alive, we all don't believe he'll come back. It's not denial that makes us believe he's alive it's all of the above I have stated and much more.

[Person]

Michael hasn't broken any laws in the US so it is highly unlikely he would be arrested when he returns.

I think there is a very good explanation for why he needed to leave...I am sure when he returns it will be abundantly clear.  

God Bless  

Did you actually read my whole message?

Yes it is, according to US law. My mother works with attorneys. It is illegal to fake death in an attempt to collect insurance and/or escape debts. Michael had hundred million debts. Again, Michael would not go through all this trouble for no explained reason. He's not returning, or else this whole thing would be pointless. Why get us excited for This Is It and make fans waste money buying the tickets if he was just going to ditch the concerts? Again, if he is hiding he wanted NO ONE to know, including fans. He's not coming back. He is in God's Kingdom. Let him live there in peace please.

[Person]

There is more proof MJ is alive than dead. His family and friends have made alot of slip ups and there are way too many inconsistencies and contradictions for this "death" to be real. If you're not a believer then you're on the wrong site and if you believe MJ is dead then that's your beliefs. We believe he's alive, we all don't believe he'll come back. It's not denial that makes us believe he's alive it's all of the above I have stated and much more.

Inconsistences? Ok. Please list a few. I'll read them all. But please read my WHOLE message, for it provides many LOGICAL reasons why he wouldn't do this. You haven't provided any reason WHY. You can piece together all the pictures and videos all you want, but with no reason WHY, it's pointless.

[Lonelynation]

There is more proof MJ is alive than dead. His family and friends have made alot of slip ups and there are way too many inconsistencies and contradictions for this "death" to be real. If you're not a believer then you're on the wrong site and if you believe MJ is dead then that's your beliefs. We believe he's alive, we all don't believe he'll come back. It's not denial that makes us believe he's alive it's all of the above I have stated and much more.

Inconsistences? Ok. Please list a few. I'll read them all. But please read my WHOLE message, for it provides many LOGICAL reasons why he wouldn't do this. You haven't provided any reason WHY. You can piece together all the pictures and videos all you want, but with no reason WHY, it's pointless.

There is no need for us to list inconsistencies. If you want to know some, you're on the perfect site - do your own research. You're right, we don't know why Michael would do this. Of course we have ideas as to what the reason may be, but we do not know for sure. Much like you do not know for sure that he's dead. Did you see a body? Did you personally see Michael Jackson's body in a casket? No. If Michael is gone then may he rest in peace, but until there are logical explanations to valid questions, I'm going to keep looking into this very possible hoax.

[karen-ishealive]

There is more proof MJ is alive than dead. His family and friends have made alot of slip ups and there are way too many inconsistencies and contradictions for this "death" to be real. If you're not a believer then you're on the wrong site and if you believe MJ is dead then that's your beliefs. We believe he's alive, we all don't believe he'll come back. It's not denial that makes us believe he's alive it's all of the above I have stated and much more.

Inconsistences? Ok. Please list a few. I'll read them all. But please read my WHOLE message, for it provides many LOGICAL reasons why he wouldn't do this. You haven't provided any reason WHY. You can piece together all the pictures and videos all you want, but with no reason WHY, it's pointless.

If you don't believe MJ is alive then why are you here? We've been here 12 months investigating and putting alot of our time and emotions into this, we don't believe MJ is dead. Please read the forums before you come in shouting at us. And also we're not all conspiracy theorists we're regular MJ fans who saw major f-ups since June 25th 2009

[awesome1]

Michael hasn't broken any laws in the US so it is highly unlikely he would be arrested when he returns.

I think there is a very good explanation for why he needed to leave...I am sure when he returns it will be abundantly clear.  

God Bless  

Did you actually read my whole message?

Yes it is, according to US law. My mother works with attorneys. It is illegal to fake death in an attempt to collect insurance and/or escape debts. Michael had hundred million debts. Again, Michael would not go through all this trouble for no explained reason. He's not returning, or else this whole thing would be pointless. Why get us excited for This Is It and make fans waste money buying the tickets if he was just going to ditch the concerts? Again, if he is hiding he wanted NO ONE to know, including fans. He's not coming back. He is in God's Kingdom. Let him live there in peace please.

Now with the assets that michael owned..... do you really believe he was in that amount of debt..... just take a look at this:
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now tell me with the money he would make off that, how is he in soo much debt as the tabloids claim?

And btw how do you know that the tickets were a waste   do you know anyone who bought a ticket.... how many tickets were actually sold ??

[Loveneverfeltsogood]

Person:
It seems that you know him better than anyone, you know what he would or wouldn't do, i'm not that arrogant, i only know what he did,we have proofs,if you still have any doubts that he is alive please go read this You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login , and i can imagine why he did it but i don't know it for sure, i guess i will have to wait till he comes back and explain it with his own words.

[Person]

Now with the assets that michael owned..... do you really believe he was in that amount of debt..... just take a look at this:
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now tell me with the money he would make off that, how is he in soo much debt as the tabloids claim?

And btw how do you know that the tickets were a waste   do you know anyone who bought a ticket.... how many tickets were actually sold ??[/quote]

Oh yeah, the Sony catalogue. I definitely know about that. That's a hell of an asset to own! Of course, that bought Michael a lot of revenue in. Lady Gaga's songs are even apart of that catalogue. And yes, he had a lot of debts. He had to give up a part (just a part) of his ownership of Neverland to pay a hefty debt. And what does the amount of tickets sold have to do with anything???

[MJonmind]

I give you credit for writing so well what is the very obvious as far as media, family and friends are telling the world. Obviously none of us are blind to that. However Michael was no ordinary person. We feel there is a MOUNTAIN  of evidence that says he is hoaxing his death. Do we love him any less?  Absolutely no! You are not allowing him to be the performer that his heart and God, has called him to be. Don't tell us you are such a big authority on what goes on in the Spiritual realm, and what God does and doesn't do in the lives of people. We love him whether he was murdered or he hoaxed his death, simply because we love him. Period. Not--we'll be so angry and never forgive him if he did happen to hoax his death, for reasons that are not fully apparent yet. We have many speculative reasons but no verification. You-- are squeezing him into your own mold, forcing him to be the person you want him to be. Accusing him of causing you pain, if he did in fact hoax his death. Is that love? Maybe you don't know Michael and all the words he has written, spoken and sung, as well as you think you do. Michael refuses to be forced into a mold. If you say it would make him the biggest liar, then every magician's act is nothing but a lie, every interpretive piece of art is a lie, every hidden mystery in this world is only a lie. So I ask of you --let go a little, dream a little, laugh a little, open your mind and heart a little! That was/is Michael. So maybe this is all about interpretation. Do we love different Michaels?  A lot of hate in this world is simply from misunderstanding. Believers and non-believers will have to agree to disagree, and continue to be a loving support for the one man Michael Jackson.

[paula-c]

Person, I respect your opinion, but I do not think Michael has done such a thing out of the media attention

[Person]

Person:
It seems that you know him better than anyone, you know what he would or wouldn't do, i'm not that arrogant, i only know what he did,we have proofs,if you still have any doubts that he is alive please go read this You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login , and i can imagine why he did it but i don't know it for sure, i guess i will have to wait till he comes back and explain it with his own words.

I only know what he would and wouldn't do because he actually formed his lips to say so. I have gone to that forum, thank u for providing the link though. What reason does he have to come back though?

[missdanipyt]

I agree it's definitely not denial that makes us believe. We are not crazy lol we have legitimate reasons.
Trust me I know what it feels like to be coming from the point of view that he is really gone, it took me a while to really be convinced of even the possibility, for a long time I refused to believe he faked his death. I mean look at this way, after Michael died I believed he was now in heaven watching over his children, family, friends, and fans. Watching over us, seeing all the love the world was showing him, and when I prayed to God I believed that he was watching over me, that he would now finally know what I feel in my heart for him. When I started hearing all these hoax theories, I got extremely confused and frustrated because I thought, "Are you watching over me? Are you helping and protecting me? All this time I've been pouring my heart out to you believing you're up in heaven with God and the angels safe and away from pain and now I find out you could be completely oblivious to the fact that I even exist!" So now he's not watching over his fans, he's not seeing all the love he's been given, was not hearing my prayers...and so on. That's a pretty big difference! In my mind I thought people should not be toying with the sacredness of being an angel in heaven, passed on from earth. I never liked how some people didn't believe that the Michael at the 02 press conference wasn't really him either. I just don't like the idea of thinking someone is not Michael when what if it actually is? How do you think that makes Michael feel? It's crazy to be thinking he's alive if he's actually dead BUT it's also crazy to be thinking he's dead if he's actually alive! Plus I worried that if I started believing he was alive and then later found out he was dead, I would just go through this grieving process all over again. I thought it was disrespectful to his family, however the family has not spoken out against it yet ONCE and I'm pretty positive they know people out here believe. I felt hurt because I felt like I was tricked into believing that Michael Jackson could be watching over ME personally and hearing my thoughts and prayers and loving me, actually loving me along with all the other people in the world and the REAL love he has received. All the tributes there were, some people even committed suicide i heard, all the pain and tears, I even know people that sent him balloons to heaven on his birthday, how could it all be for nothing? I was VERY confused for a long time. I was firmly set on the fact that he could never fake his death, to be on earth and to be in heaven are two COMPLETELY different things. I didn't believe his family grieving, especially little Paris at the memorial, no way could that ever be fake.
HOWEVER.
NOW I am like 90% sure that he is alive. See? Even I went from that to this. I've learned SO SO much. First of all, I know that it's not easy for everybody to understand that the Jacksons could fake their grieving, but we must never underestimate the Jacksons, they will do ANYTHING for their brother. The family always talks about how the children are GREAT actors. Coincidence? There's just WAY too many questionable things that have happened, too many signs, and too many slip ups from the family. Even if you don't 100% believe he's alive, you have to at least question? Mjsfan4ever is currently putting together a list of ALL the clues we have received so far. No matter how much I wanted to believe Michael was really in heaven, I couldn't hide away from all the clues. I could not deny deep in my heart that something in me, no matter how bad I tried to deny it, something in me believed he was still with us. AND I think one of the most important things is the "He would never do this to his fans" deal. All I can say is go here, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login It explains EVERYTHING. Michael did not do this TO us he did it FOR us. Otherwise he would have really died, and THAT is what he does not want for his fans. He cares about us more than we know, and he's taken everything into consideration. He knew there would be grievance but he had to do what he had to do. And all fans that are grieving, all they say is "I'd give anything to have him back." Yet they say if he were still with us that makes him evil? I came to accept the fact that I thought he was in heaven, and it was a shock when I made the transition, but I'm all better now and I've learned that this is so much more than Michael simply "faking his death to escape pressure."
I KNOW how you feel, that it is NOT cool to play this joke on the world and cause people that kind of unbelievable pain, BUT that is NOT the reason he did this. I mean have you ever seen the clip at the end of This Is It, after the credits? He basically gives us the clue himself.

[Happy Feet]

I for one believe Michael faked his death for serious and legitimate reason. I have always been 50/50 in the hoax theory. My other belief is that if he did die, then he was murdered. "Fear of Life" has always been my only contender in this hoax. Michael feared his life. That was fact. Others see if differently and I respect that. To me, if Michael is alive there is alot more going on behind the scenes then we are aware of. I have never looked for "clues" in this whole senario, but simply inconsistencies in the stories. Inconsistencies that aren't just mere mistakes or coincidencies. Your right Michael loved his fans and we love him. Many of us stood through thick and thin with him during the deepest hours and times of his life. When his so called friends and Hollywood turned their backs on him, we were there. We too were ridiculed for believing in Michaels innocence. We too were laughed at for still having belief and faith in Michael. It pails in comparison to what he actually endured, but my point is, we were there. In my opinion he would not of done this to us unless he had too. When I watched footage of his fans again this year at Forest Lawn marking the one year anniversary breaking down overwhelmed with grief still, in my heart of hearts I just believe Michael would not let us go through this unless 1. He really is dead or 2. He needed to do this.  I don't believe in a comeback. However if he would, I think the world would only embrace him if he went into hiding for necessary and legitmitate reasons.  But I could be wrong, just giving my reason for believing all of this :lol: