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Quote from: "Gema"we don´t knowSupposedly we do. We saw the casket at the memorial and then at the funeral
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i am sorry i wasn't around then . is there some footage of joe making this statement?
:roll: You all simply MUST not let every little wisp of a breeze rattle the crap out of you. I don't care what ANY one reported or any one says they heard, I already KNOW this much: we are all on a HOAXED DEATH Investigators site. Many many things have been said about "death" here, which could be disrespectful or hurtful for people who have actually had THAT awful reality come to their home. Yes, we love MJ and we cried when we thought he died, and some of us STILL, cannot be convinced for more than a few moments (!) that it IS a HOAX and he IS alive. So, try this on for size: Death is the WORST possible thing that can happen to us. It is disrespectful to take less than seriously, IF we are REALLY talking about a REAL PERSON who now is under ground, ALL dreams perished. All relationships severed. All curtains down. Hope dead. Michael Jackson had such profane, :mad: disgusting rumors and allegations spread about him during his life, that even though he was COMPLETELY exonerated and published far and wide that he was INNOCENT of all charges, not too much changed. Small minded people get crap into their mind and they keep their twisted views because it allows them to feel better about themselves. They are jealous of his talent, money, power, fame, looks, sheer niceness, which they distrust, and NEED to have something to hold against him, in order to stand taller than him, by walking ON him. They should be ashamed, but it hasn't really hit them, yet. Too immature, too ignorant.ALL the King's horses and ALL the King's men have dilligently TRIED to restore MJ's halo---his sparkling, SQUEAKY-CLEAN reputation, for YEARS now, armed with verdict papers and EVERY kind of reminder of pure things we ALL know about him. Because rumor and innuendo is such a DANGEROUS, fast spreading poison, with exponential tentacles, and the tongues of men are an unrestrained beast in this life, I am ashamed to say that there will always be SOME talebearer giving crap legs and wings...No matter HOW careful one is, to burn every spinning wheel in the Kingdom, SOME loser has a functioning model in their attic, waiting to start the damage all over again.I'm a fan of Michael Jackson's. Seriously---the whole 9 yards. Crush, fascination, obsession, T shirt owning, video playing, now, cooled down, just simmering with admiration and awe, card carrying, HOAX beLIEving, MJ fan. I am serious about him. But, probably not as broken as his actual FAMILY would be. If I thought for ONE moment he was really deceased, I wouldn't be here, hashing it out with "y'all". I would grieve by myself, respectfully.I've found, you can't tell people, who are "set" in "error", anything---and I don't waste time, knowingly. :roll: But, please steady yourselves. He is not dead. This I KNOW (and you can take it or leave it) : When MJ REALLY dies, when that beauty and love has been snuffed out, and his body is put away FOREVER, and his family REALLY is heartbroken and hurt and GRIEVING, and feeling HELPLESS, as they all were at his travesty of a molestation trial---- THIS is what will be carved on his tomb (The last line is what Joe TOLD the press, in present-tense, NO uncertain terms, and they IGNORED, THEN): MICHAEL JACKSON THE GREATEST ENTERTAINER WHO EVER LIVED AND THE MOST LOVED "My son was a good boy" These will be the loudest words EVER stuck in the human heart, from a rough guy who, himself, with firsthand knowledge, was amazed and broken hearted that someone SO good would be SO crucified. THEY will be believed, and SHAME everyone who sees them.That's when I'll believe Michael Jackson is gone for good; when his father's loving words are carved in MJ's STONE. Only then will Mike rest in peace. Remember, that he said,"...if you leave this world knowing you are loved...." BTW, I never heard or read ANYwhere than MJ even knows this. I wish someone would TELL him.
Quote from: "Gema"Quote from: "Hazzely"Quote from: "Gema"we don´t knowSupposedly we do. We saw the casket at the memorial and then at the funeralThe article explains why the gold casket is not his. All of this is speculations any way.I haven´t seen MJ IN any casket, goldsh or "arkish"I didn't read the article I just looked at the picWe didn't see him in any casket, that's true and that's why we can't assume that's his coffin ..as you said, we can only speculateWell anyhow it doesn't matter since he's more than alive
Quote from: "Hazzely"Quote from: "Gema"we don´t knowSupposedly we do. We saw the casket at the memorial and then at the funeralThe article explains why the gold casket is not his. All of this is speculations any way.I haven´t seen MJ IN any casket, goldsh or "arkish"
This thread is supposed to be about MJs name on the tomb.Is it there or not?
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"This thread is supposed to be about MJs name on the tomb.Is it there or not?I was at forest lawn July 3rd and there were very little people plus the small stage with some of the flowers and gifts on it, partly from June 25th.I asked security whether I was allowed to take the few steps to look at the entrance and to look through the windows of Holy Terrace.He said:They told me not to let anybody up there,sorry madame,it is my first day here. I asked him whether he had seen the tomb. And he said he had had a quick guided look inside. So I asked him whether it is true that the tomb finally has Michaels name engraved on it, and he answered he did not pay attention to that, so he could not say whether yes or no. He was very politefull and sort of made me feel he really felt sorry for not being allowed to let me up there. He said it was his first day there.I also asked whether the family visits regularly,but he did not know that either.I just could not stop the feeling that we should not see anything and definately not get the opportunity to zoom in on the tomb.