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[wilds]

Supervision, this is incredible! And I know it's real because I have experienced it for myself. I began dreaming and having visions when I accepted JESUS years ago. I think your vision is so awesome - I love it!

[Supervision]

Well...thank you Wild and LOma...and thank God also, that there are some people here on board  who can relate to what I tentatively am trying to reveal..I mean it is bad enough that, that not too many people understand believers, calling us crazy, imagine if I go around telling people I also see MIchael in visions etc.LOL...I am sure most people would call in the men in white on me...off I go to my padded cell for REAl.
The first post I ever put up on the web. regarding this matter was at one link I stumbled into and posted anonymously.

http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... howComment.
on May the 6th...

and I was pleasantly surprised when one person posted back to say she had the very same vision as well..

it is the vision I intended to post under the   outline,
"MIchael in the Garden of delight"
I called it that,...cause, in this persistently recurring visions..He is deeply in love with a woman...it seems he adores this woman who ever she is, she really got him..I see them.KIssing , Kissing and more KIssing..they are deeply in LOve it looks like judging from this clear vision.And this vision is like in technicolor very clear,except that I have no clue who this woman is,the lucky lady.MIchael seems extremely happy and in love. Could that be the meaning of the lyrics in This is it?
Did MIchael finally find some real love and "Run Away"???as he tells in the lyrics??
.. But the most frustrating thing is,since there is no audio in this visions,I can not talk to him and I can not tell, whether this is supposed to be  happening now, in our linear time, or in the past or even the future.This visions do cover all time frames,what we call past present and future. Does that make sense to any one here?

But here is  the one response that poster had to say re: MIchael and the Lady.

June 10, 2010 7:51 AM
Anonymous said...

I too have had visions about Michael being alive - since about 3rd July 2009. Lately I see him with a blond blue eyed woman who is around the same age as him.

Please gusy..I would like to post this under a thread or something to get others to see it...would that be advisable??? and is there a better topic thread here I should post under.or just keep posting here? How does that work...I still can not navigate too well yet on this forum...Please drop me a line regarding the posting of this visions.

But .one more thing before I finsh,I got to say it,..while this is above vision is a happy visions about MIchael, I am afraid to tell the truth, that I also had the visons(dream)..that I took MIchael  to the HOspital...to be operated on his brain.Yeah..it was me who took him to the hospital and he was dressed up in a green/blue hospital gown sitting up on the gurney ready to go to operation room.
LOL..this visions are indeed strange...imagine me of all people taking KIng Michael to hospital? GEE!!

But nevertheless,this hospital vision was very very clear.as if some one video taped it and run it back to me , to see it..
that makes me wonder,  if MIchael is very sick ? Something to do with his brain. God....I hope I am seeing wrong about this.

So referring back to my outlines,this vision is what I meant to post under my outline..
MIchael in HOspital.

Soo...dear friends ,so now I got two of the outlines out of the way...
MIchael in the garden of delight..(KIssing KIssing and more KIssing)
and
MIchael in  HOspital.(Brain operation)
I am glad , I got the courage to get it off my  chest..regardless of what some people may say about it..or think about it.
Well....let me know what you think.or your comments if any,....today is the 25th..and I am
very sad..and missing Michael.

I wonder what it all could mean???
If you guys are interested read my post in the above link and the response of this other person who also is saying she had the same vision.(copied and pasted only her respons above, my post there is too long , I am afraid , but Iam saying the same thing there as here).
I  have written her back today to tell  her about this site ..hope she joins here.We need more people, that believe in this sort of phenomena.
God Bless..all of us..and Sweet Mike.

[wilds]

Here are some other threads about dreams / visions / phenomena:
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11375&hilit=visions
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=11524

Your visions are wonderful. it's true that many times they are HD vivid - those may be the ones meant to be remembered

[Supervision]

thanks for the special topic links..Wilds.
about the visions...Yeah..some of them are wonderful..but the some of them are awful to say the least.And all of them are bewildering..especially if there is on one around with a better discernment gift to interpret them.
Does anyone help you to interpret your visions..when you see them..Wilds?
I have by now accepted them as a part of my life, don't even bother to record most of them.....as I had started to day..when I first started getting them.Well...with MIchael..especially I wish I could be on target , about what is up with him.
Well..I am not giving up..and I hope I will have more concrete ones soon.I will look at the links ..and see what is in there, also
I will soon update my outlines for they are worth.
But did you get anything of MIke being sick?

[wilds]

thanks for the special topic links..Wilds.
about the visions...Yeah..some of them are wonderful..but the some of them are awful to say the least.And all of them are bewildering..especially if there is on one around with a better discernment gift to interpret them.
Does anyone help you to interpret your visions..when you see them..Wilds?
I have by now accepted them as a part of my life, don't even bother to record most of them.....as I had started to day..when I first started getting them.Well...with MIchael..especially I wish I could be on target , about what is up with him.
Well..I am not giving up..and I hope I will have more concrete ones soon.I will look at the links ..and see what is in there, also
I will soon update my outlines for they are worth.
But did you get anything of MIke being sick?

You're welcome  ;) I have tried to find someone who can discern some of my dreams and visions, you know, the ones that are "far out", but I haven't been able to! Over time I find that they are revealed through prayer and through research. Sometimes they are revealed in "layers", piece by piece day by day - if I pay ATTENTION! Perhaps that's why we get them - to make us AWAKE and become aware of what is going on in our world. And also we need to Believe in ourselves you know? Maybe it is not for us to go seeking other people to give us the answers. The answers could be right there for us all along. Don't give up because there is a reason for all of this, maybe we don't see or understand it all right now but there has got to be a reason why. GOD could be giving us this to make us come to HIM and HIM only for the explanations we are seeking.

I didn't get any of Michael being ill, just that he was through with it! And now I'm really believing that he was done with all of this madness. I saw despicable people in his life, in his own "Backyard" literally. People who were a threat to his children. It is really something else, and I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't dreamed it myself. But I know this, there is some wickedness in this world that is too much to bare for most. I have some of my dreams of Michael in a blog if you care to see them : http://www.michaeljackson.com/pt/users/wilds
Check out the 11:11 time stamp ha ha! I just noticed it, wow.

Some are on my myspace. Here's one about soldiers in 2008, they looked like the army of soldiers lined up in This Is It - especially the blonde soldier in the front: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =434324685

[karen924]

Supervision~
Amazing! Your story could be my story. I have too have been so afraid to post or talk about my dreams/visions/feelings because of judgement, people thinking I am crazy. I rarely share them with my friends and family either.  I was never a huge MJ fan. In fact, I was a huge Bee Gee and Andy Gibb fan.
I have been having visions and dreams my whole life, usually about my family. I never had a dream.visons about celebrities. A year before MJ 'died" I had a dream that he had in fact "died". I told only my sisters and I clearly remember laughing and saying,"so if Michael jackson dies, you heard it first." Then it happened, exactly like my dream. When my husband told me he had died, I remember thinking he is really not dead. Then about July 7, 2010 I started having visions of him that made me think I was going crazy, literally crazy. Some things he would tell, I would later find out to be true.  Such as a client of my brothers, who is a lawyer in CA, was a friend of MJs.

I havent figured all of this out. My mind tells me that there is no way he can be alive. My mind questions how could some one pull this off and my heart, my heart tell me there is no way he can be dead. I have seen him. I have talked to him. My heart will never give up. My heart hold the hope and faith that I need to believe. And I do believe he will come back. Not for money, it was never about money. It is and always will be about L.O.V.E

[Supervision]

You can say that again Wilds...about being awake,how could you not be awake, when you see  an other "Realty"...that most people can not see or afraid to even talk about.And I agree with you totally that running here and there to find out about the meaning of these visions is I feel not the answer.Research has helped me a lot also.Going to God maybe the best answer, but unfortunately, at times he takes His own sweet time to reveal what is being shown. That is the most frustrating part about this visions and dreams, ...living in the instant gratification world as we do.we would love the meaning of this visons and dreams to be as instant as possible .ha ha..
For an example,as you know ,I have said how long it took to connect the dots about my forewarning  vision of Elizabeth Taylor for an example,a month before 6-25 ...but it led me to seeing another vision six or seven month down the road,which clarified things in more definable way, that is to say the vision showed  the as if she is hiding him or helping him to hide.
Yeah it was shown in layers...just like you say..and it might even be continuous who knows.
To the poster Karen...I am glad we have found ourselves here discussing these "taboo"subject of visions and dreams.
I believe strongly , it is because of Michale's own spiritual force.
That is to say the force  being pure LOve he must have felt for God and his fellow humans that is bringing people together in all sort of ways especially since 6-25-09.
I am convinced that is why these visions of him starting appearing in many people's lives before or after the definitive day of 6-25-...
I also believe, that Michael himself may have been/is a 33rd degree Mason...what I mean is he had extensive esoteric and spiritual understanding.With all the numerology attention that he seemed to observe,and the spiritual advisers he engaged,I believe that to be true.I have no doubt in my mind,that MJ  knew a lot about the Masons and the deep spiritual and magical knowledge they are supposed to be protecting from falling on "Swine"
But MJ used what he came to know about the secret knowledge he came to understand, to use it for the Good of All, however and not to manipulate or destroy.
I am almost sure MJ, had psychic abilities. He said so himself many times...like how he writes his song...etc.
In the Bashir interview for an example, it is interesting that MJ is driving around in car number #33...
What do you guys think..Was MJ a mason,or not?
We know he read the Bible extensively and not as a fable story for kids or fools...but cracking the true meaning of what is buried in the scriptures. He also had Mr. Chopra and his Son as a close friend..anther link to his spiritual practice covering beyond
just the Christian bible.
So..Karen...I believe that is why, he started visiting you, cause
your spiritual faculties , just like mine and Wilds here, seem to be already awakened...and Michael can tune in, on the same wavelength of broadcast so to speak.
Does that make sense?
What do you guys think?
There is a  special supernatural  force about the Man. NO doubt about that.
What I say here will link directly to my visions ,which outlined as
Michael in the Sky. I will post about that soon.Gee this post is already too long..Michael is consuming my life ..ha ha..
Blessings
and please reply ..thanks for sharing Karen...stay around and we will share more and more...that would make me happy for sure, cause, I don't share these things with too many people including family.
Peace and the purest of Love to sweet Michael!!

[karen924]

It is so nice to have someone to talk to about this. I do believe that we are being "awaken" to another experience, a higher self. Its amazing that we feel that we have to be guarded when we talk about our experiences because of judgement because I ahve just a strong belief in God, just not religion and atleats in my experince, it is the ones that claim to be Christian, that judge me the most.

Its still hard for me to not to run to the computer and try to figure out all the symbolism of what I see and feel. Even though I know all will be revealed when it is suppose to be revealed. I do believe that Michael is sending messages and i believe he has always known more than the rest of do. I believe he is of a higher vibration. Im not sure if you are familiar with the term incarnated Earth Angel. An incarnated Angel is basically an Angel who takes on the human form to be on earth so that help others. I believe that MJ is an Incarnated Angel.

I have read a bit about the Masons, but I dont know a lot about them. I will have to do more research on that. I do believe that if Michael is a Mason than he would use his knowledge for good. he knows no evil. I have cried so many times after is visits from the over powering feeling of love.  Its is so beautiful that there are no words to describe it.Im sure you know what I am talking about.

I do believe he was into numerolgy. During one visit, he told me to look for the number 7 and the combinations of 7 like 25 and 34. This was about 4-5 months ago.  I researched it a bit online and see that the numcer 7 is in his life alot. I dont know what it means. But I do know that one day I will.
I would love to read some more of your visits in greater detail and will also share mine. I believe that is what MJ would want. I also believe that at one time, he was staying with Elizabeth. I believe that is the first place he went to although I do believe that he moves around so what as well. But that he is very careful. I also believe that he is not done helping all of us, the believers as well as the non believers.  His message is simply: Love.

[2MuchMJLuv]

Wow!!!! These posts have got me speechless to say the least. I have lost several people whom were very near and dear, and I know that I have some sort of gift that I'm afraid to acknowledge. One of my relatives whom I was very, very close to (we spoke everyday, laughed cried, etc) made an effort to reach me in a dream but I got scared and broke the line of communication. I guess I'm not ready. I have to say that I have been an MJ fan since adolescense and I'll never forget the day that the mayhem happened. Here in L.A. (California) it was pure chaos. People were crying, traffic stopped and every t.v. channel broke the news. My phone rang off of the hook as if it were happening to a relative. In an instant, I closed my eyes to pray but instead I felt an overwhelming sense of pain and discomfort but I couldn't cry or feel grief. It was weird. Then I felt assured that he hadn't crossed over. It came to me like a message. Can't explain it. Crazy, huh?

[Supervision]

Welcome on our post site..tomuchMj love...we are gathering a neat little group...I am delighted..
Please do not be afraid to embrace your whole self, your spiritual self,is,... believe it or not, your true essence, and after our brief sojourn here on this planet, we will revert back to our true essence. Every human knows we enter this world to leave it at some future point...and that is o.k. if we are at least glimpsing a bit of the Truth, about our own make up.We are not physical bodies..we have something in us that is indestructible and that is our spirit,which animates us.
Your beloved relative,who has passed, ...you must know is trying to tell you that life is going on on the other side.Don't be scared...he is trying to tell you about what he found out after shedding the physical body...
As for Michael,and our powerful connection to him,In that sense  It is hard to say whether Michael is still here with us physically or has indeed transitioned.
Looked at from a spiritual perspective...he may have indeed transitioned, which makes him more alive than ever, cause , it seems now he is able to penetrate the hearts and minds of millions of people around the Globe, simultaneously,without the barrier of time or space,and no grueling concert tours are needed for him to get his message out.
For you yourself were an eye witness, to the way people reacted when they heard the news on 6-25...and imagine that is just one city , La...on this planet .
But...the Man was  loved and adored  in the remotest part of any place on the planet, where people, who don't even understand English and can't have understood what he was singing about, knew they felt something in their hearts for him.Thus the outpouring of real grief....unprecedented....in our life time for any one human being passing, as far as I know.
I mean I myself  have and continue to shed hot tears for MIchael almost every day, as if I am compelled to do so, and it is my duty to cry and pray for him.It is more than a bit strange. He is forever on my mind and heart, and is not letting go anytime soon.And I am no teenager with a girlish crush, though I have always been a fan of his, I was not fanatical about it.
But I have never in my life felt so much intensive love in my heart, for any one I have never evern met,in person let alone to grieve for him.The love I feel for Michael is only exceeded by the love I also feel for  the Lord Jesus the Christ.And to confess the truth ,cause the Lord knows it anyway,that might be only because, I am afraid , the Lord might not be with it ..about all my adulation of Mr. MIchel J. Jackson....ha ha..
Now...the phenomena , and the most perplexing part of the whole issue with Michael is, he is visiting people in dreams and visions,people , who were not even his fans as far as they could acknowledge and  and is rapidly gaining more and more fans in the current generation..
Little babies...smile when they hear him sing or see him dance in one of his splendid vids.
There were some reports of healing of terminally ill children as well..in Italy I believe since 6-25 ..so...where ever he is , he is
Alive.
In fact it is becoming more and more interesting ..his existence I mean.
I will post my about my particular vision regarding this issue... in more detail ...(karen)soon, it is late here and I did write much to welcome 2Much love.
So..please try to embrace your spiritual self...you will find out
amazing things about yourself , God, and the whole Creation.
YOU can run ..but I am afraid ..Not HIDE.

Peace and never enough love for our sweet Michael!!

[karen924]

2muchmjluv~
Welcome. I understand your feelings. There were times when I was younger and I have thought the dead were visiting me because I had wronged them. When I was about 12 my uncle came to me 3 times and we talked, he never said a negative thing to me and when I woke up I was afraid, so I prayed. the thing that you have to remember that you are protected. This isnt something evil. I believe with my whole heart that it is one of God's gifts of love, the gift that love knows no boundaries. My Dad passed away almost 7 years ago and I was given his death date months before he died, He died on the day I was given. We visit a lot. We do it because we love each other. Do not let the fear enter your mind and heart, just let love fill your heart and you will be ok. And remember you are protected, by God,Jeus and His Army of Angels. Call for them if you are afraid.

I had to once. There was a spirit in my room who was poisoned to death and I could feel their death, I called out to Jesus and was able to let go of all the pain and help this spirit cross over. I know it sounds crazy and i actually believe knowing it sounds crazy, keeps me sane! I also keep Holy water by my bed.

One of my favorite Mj's visit was when I was meditating. I was going to a jewerly truck sale at a "new Age" store. MJ told me that he was going to give me a gift from the sale. I really just thought i would find something that had a MJ feel to it. I picked out a Celtic ring and when I was paying for it , a friend showed me a fluorite pendant which is my favorite stone. I said"oh I love it!" The owner took it from her and looked at me and said "this is your gift"  and he gave to be for free! I needed to buy a chain for it so my husband and I went to a jewrely store the next day. When I was picking out a chain for it the J5 song "can you feel it?" came on. And yes I could feel it, I could feel MJ's love. His love is amazing.

[Supervision]

Man...Karen..now I am really jealous..Ha ha.. :|  :|  :|
MJ sent you a gift?
Well...he did not send anything here but gallons of tears.
..if every drop that fell from my poor eyes since 6-25, should be collected,
I believe,it would be enough for me to bring out my little rubber ducky to float around in it..
Oh' I get it.Maybe the tears are all meant  for the rubber ducky to swim in it after all!!
Well...no one has ever accused sweet MJ..of ever making the distinction between animate and inanimate creations,when he loved. Now,There is a man who really really loved all.
Humans, animals, mystical and fictional creations and of course let us not forget ...his most loyal friends the wonderful mannequins.
So ...gallons of my tears..for the rubber ducky...ha ha.. :|  :|  :|  :|
Sweet Michael...please know my tear ducts are about to shut down in protest after hearing what is up with you and Karen. :|

Got to go I will post later.
But,... how do you hear Michael when he visits you,or the other visitors? Are those dreams you are having, or visions ,as in while you are still awake and seeing some time HD quality mini clips when you close your eyes?
Unfortunately I don't get audio in my visions...only in dreams.
Well...Karen..let me know what else Michael is up to these days.... :|  :|  :|
and to Wilds ...where are you..I checked out your blog..Amazing.
Peace and much love to King of Hearts..sweet MJ

[karen924]

Oh boy! Here we go....I am going to just trust and hope you guys dont think Im crazy. Im 46 and Im still worried about judgment! How crazy is that.  Other than a year before Michael died, when I had a dream of his death, I never had any other experiences relating to Michael. Atfer he died, it started with dreams, I would make up with a line of song in my head. Now remember that I wasnt a MJ fan so I would google the line and  I would intrepret his message.  I would have dreams with him in it, strange dreams of him hiding and telling me things. Then around July7th, I actually saw him. It was in my bedroom.  I asked him questions, he answered them. We wrote 2 poems together. I serious when I say I am not crazy....I have only shared that will about 2 people. I didnt want him to leave but of course he had to. When he left I cried. i thought I was nuts. I thought I was crazy. i called my sister, crying so hard that I could hardly talked. I read her the poems. Since then I have seen him one other time, this time it was in my computer room.  And after he gave me that mesage, I cried again.
he comes to me in dreams, while meditating and sometimes I can just feel him. I have asked him to do specific things to prove that it is really him and he does exactly what I have asked him to do. I dont dream about him or feel him as much as I used to do.He told me that would happen but i know he will be there if i need him.

I really believe Supervision, that he doesnt want you crying all the time. He is really happy and he is so full of this amazing love that their is no words for. I once said to him, " I wish I would have known you when you were here" And he said," that doesnt matter, what matters now is that God has brought us together now and now we will always be together" Hes so sweet. Hes so full of love, I cant say that enough.

I have so much to share but I dont want to dominate your message board. Its nice to have someone to tell things to.

[Supervision]

Karen..please don't think I am trying to judge you or think that you are crazy. Everyone has their own truth and I am sure you are not making it up. I am just fascinated about all the direct contact you say you had with MIke.Especially...when you say , you actually saw him. I mean , what do you mean you actually saw him and wrote poems together?...He was physically there, or like a hologram or what??? I am confused, cause, all visions I see come through when I close my eyes....through the "Third Eye"..also called the Spiritual Eye of the Soul.
If I don't close my eyes..well...I only see, which I believe all people see. Such us what we call Reality.
But through this third Eye...I have gained telepathic vision...or have become clairvoyant...as it is called.
That is how I see MIchael  and all other visions I get,projected on  the mini clip like screens ..as if I were being shown a movie.
So if I open my eyes ..gone is the vision. Like turning the T.V. off. That has been my only experience about visions and the rest of the time...it is just through vivid dreams..

.But...did you save the poem...if so, could you share it?

YOu know..our subconscious mind is very powerful and a great joker itself, so could it be, your own subconscious playing tricks on you? Have you suspected that angle of things regarding these visions?
Just asking..cause , I know , I would totally freak out,or maybe even have a heart attack or something, if MIke materialized here in person,right here where I am sitting down. :|  :|  :|  :|
As for the tears, they are not always sad tears,they flaw unbidden mostly when I hear his sweet Music.Can't be helped ,I suppose. That is my emotion.....I get stirred up from deep inside of me...when I hear his voice and his music.
And my heart gets flooded with love for him.
It happens the same way at times when I think and yearn for The Lord Jesus, or am in deep prayer. Tears flow down, as if it were a natural accompaniment to the spiritual experience.
That is all I know. No...I am not depressed about it...but sometime I am sad when I think about what Michael had to go through with the victimization he suffered.
No...you are not going crazy.Karen,..but ..it would be nice for you to write back to tell us about what happened..and how it happened when Mike showed up and the other question above.

One more question...Is your " Third Eye " opened...do you know what I am talking about when I ask that??
Peace and sweet Love to MJ our Prince of Love.. .

[karen924]

I dont think you are trying to judge me....its just that sometimes, especially when it is in writing you cant get someones reaction or immediate feedback so Im always afraid that people are going to think its crazy especailly on the surface it would appear to  be. I do know what you are talking about when you say the Third Eye and yes, mine is open. My friends know most of MJ stories and many have told me not to post them on here. I really havent until June 25th, when I could feel the pain in peoples postings. So then I decided to trust and see what happens.

I have been told that I am clairvoyant, clairaudio and claircognizance. Sometimes, I can also feel what someone felt or taste something that would be associated with a person. For example, once my friends Dad came to me, He was an alcoholic and i could taste beer in my mouth and I could hear him sing in my head. I knew he was an alcoholic from her talking about him but I did not know that he sand when he was drunk. In fact, I never even saw him drunk.  I am fully awake when this happens  I was just sitting at my computer when it started. I had to call my girlfriend and tell her that her Dad was with me and give her the message he had for her otherwise the feeling would would not go away and it was making me sick to my stomach. I do not drink.

Seeing Michael, is like what you said it is like...it was being in a movie with him but I was awake. If someone would have walked into the room they would not see him so I would have looked crazy. Our spoken words were through our minds. I can hear him (clairaudio) If i would have reached out to hug him it would look like to the spectator that I was hugging air. I do not say I am a medium or a psychic. I believe everyone has this gift. Some people call it a feeling or instincts that they follow. I believe it is your Spirit Guide and Angels guiding you. It has been this way my whole life although when I was little, I didnt understand it and did not try to develop it. I know realize it is a gift from God and I give all praise and glory to Him.  Michael is the reason why I am working with other people to help me develop these gifts. I have done mini readings for people and have never charged even when told I should.  I also have worked with an Autistic female who is having trouble dealing with MJ's death. Someone told her case worker about me when they couldnt find anyone who could connect with MJ for her. i just told her my story and we talked about MJ's love for the world. Afterwards she told me, "Micheal brought us together." I have no doubt that he did.