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Showdown Between Katherine and MJ Estate

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Showdown Between Katherine and MJ Estate
Originally posted 11 minutes ago by TMZ Staff



TMZ has learned Katherine Jackson has gone into multiple businesses with a man who promotes online nude gambling -- and the stage is now set for a showdown between Katherine and the Michael Jackson estate.

Katherine met Howard Mann five months ago. We're told she instantly liked him, began inviting him to her grandson's basketball games and other events, and then they started talking about publishing a book.  

The book -- "Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Archives" -- is being published this week and sold online at www.jacksonsecretvault.com.

But there's more. Mann tells us he and Katherine are producing a biopic on Katherine Jackson's life.  And he says they're going into business to sell 273 unreleased MJ tracks. Mann bought a storage locker owned by the Jackson family after they didn't pay the storage bill.  There was a treasure trove of stuff in the locker, including the 273 tracks, along with 19,800 photos.

But we've learned the Michael Jackson estate is drawing a line in the sand.  Estate lawyer Howard Weitzman tells TMZ, "Mr. Mann can listen to the tracks in his living room or play them at cocktail parties, but he has absolutely no right to the intellectual property and has no claim to the music."


http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/21/katherine ... ks-estate/

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Serenitys_Dream

June 29, 2010, 04:21:34 PM #30 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "MJonmind"

I admit this is wild but my brain is going weird places.

-We've said maybe D. Murray could have a double who is Michael sometimes.
-Michael did sometimes go to adult clubs with Al Melnick. There's pics of MJ with Hugh Hefner.
-MJ did have huge collection of porn mags.
-He said somewhere he wanted to have the world largest collection of nude celebrities.
-He teased concerning TII that he was going to have those two dancers in the bed with him.
-On the death-bed scene, there was found a blond girl doll with a dress on. (one says boy doll but it don't think it was)
-This so called stripper said she could see Michael was in deep sleep, how could she know that unless she was up close.
-No one was ever allowed up in that room.
-Michael certainly had a love for many attractive women. He was VERY heterosexual.

Michael is ever the showman, and knows exactly how to get every's attention (sex talk). Many of his song videos are like that. Now with all this I am not saying Michael is some shallow womanizer and sex addict, but what I'm saying is maybe the stripper is coming for Michael symbolically in the sense that ALL will be BARED and revealed. Remember the verse that was given, "Nothing hidden that will not be revealed." He is literally getting to the BOTTOM (ha) of all thing-- NWO, illuminati, end time scenario, his own pains at the hands of hateful people and more. Again I'm not implying that Michael was engaging women suxually, but he was attracted to them and did frequent the worst of the worst from a very young child to adult (had to). Jesus hung out with sinners too, and was accused of such as well, so there's no crime in that. I don't think there's a thing Michael doesn't understand about the underworld of business and crime. I think he's seen it all, and it gives him a very unique perspective to speak on mankind's behalf.

Wasn't Mary Magdalene supposedly a prostitute?
Doesn't Dan Brown's book "The Da Vinci Code", which is a dramatization of of facts with added bits, suggest that Jesus married Mary Magdalene, that her womb was the Holy Grail (chalice), that they had children and this is the true royal bloodline. He also suggests that the ruling elite families, the European Royal families possess this bloodline. Queen Elizabeth claims Royal descent from King David of Israel some say this is lie.

Exotic dancing and Prostitution, though both in what is considered the "Sex Trade", are completely different. Most women who end up being exploited, in this industry, have come from abusive backgrounds, frequently involving sexual abuse. They therefore use their bodies for many reasons including power and for some, because that is all they know; their value, self worth is in their body. I personally think that they are survivors but also victims being re-victimized through scorn, objectification and the obvious sexual implications within our society. Maybe Michael has fallen in love with a "stripper", maybe he will marry her...anything is possible

In our current time line - one wonders if Mary Magdalene was the wife of Jesus - and had a daughter with him named, Sarah - thus perpetuating the bloodline. Mary Magdalene was the most important woman disciple in the movement of Jesus. Tradition has labelled her a prostitute, but there is nothing in the Bible to support this view and much to dispute it.

Wife of Jesus?
Some modern writers, notably the authors of the 1982 Holy Blood, Holy Grail (2003) and Dan Brown in the novel The Da Vinci Code (2003), hold that:

* Mary Magdalene was in fact the wife of Jesus, and
* that fact was omitted by Pauline Christian revisionists and editors of the Gospels.

These writers cite non-canonical and Gnostic writings in selective portions to support their argument. While sources like the Gospel of Philip depict Mary Magdalene as being closer to Jesus than any other disciple, there is no ancient document which claims she was his wife. It is thought the meaning here is Mary Magdalene knew what Jesus was talking about. She understood him, while the disciples did not.

An argument for support of this speculation is that bachelorhood was very rare for Jewish males of Jesus' time, being generally regarded as a transgression of the first mitzvah (divine commandment) - "Be fruitful and multiply". It would have been unthinkable for an adult, unmarried Jew to travel about teaching as a rabbi, as Jesus certainly did.

A counter-argument to this is that the Judaism of Jesus' time was very diverse and the role of the rabbi was not yet well defined. Celibate teachers like John the Baptist were known in the communities of the Essenes, and Paul of Tarsus was an example of an unmarried itinerant teacher among the Christians, at a time when most Christians were still practicing Jews. It was really not until after the Roman destruction of the Second Temple in A.D. 70 that Rabbinic Judaism became dominant and the role of the rabbi made uniform in Jewish communities.

Mary Magdalene appears with more frequency than other women in the canonical Gospels and is shown as being a close follower of Jesus. Mary's presence at the Crucifixion and Jesus's tomb, while hardly conclusive, is at least consonant with the role of grieving wife and widow, although if that were the case Jesus might have been expected to make provision for her care as well as for his mother Mary. Given the lack of contemporary documentation, this scenario cannot be proven, and although some consider the idea desirable to believe, most scholars do not take it seriously.

Metaphysical marriage
Other reasoning would say that Christ was already married‹ to the Church‹ an image that was developed first by Paul in what became the New Testament and then later expanded on by the Church fathers.
http://www.crystalinks.com/marymagdalene.html

EDIT:
Some would suggest that Michael is "married to his fans". A metaphysical marriage. The church is also made up of the "believers". So in a sense couldn't his "fans" or beLIEvers" also be Michael's "Church"?


Rita Hayworth

June 29, 2010, 05:17:41 PM #31 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I think we're on to something. There is some connection between Kathleen and her finances that are related to the hoax/bam.

I started to believe that when TMZ (I'm basing this on my assumption that TMZ is supplying us with clues) had a headline "Follow the Money trail." But I really believed it when they had the story "Katherine Jackson - the Buck stops here." "the buck stops here" was the saying that Truman had on his desk in the white house, basically meaning that the final decisions are made by him. I do believe that Katherine is calling the plays via Michael. I just don't totally understand the finances. But I do believe that when the financial issues are uncovered, the motive for doing harm to Michael will be established. I still think somehow the will is involved with this as well. At this point, it's all conjecture on my part.

If Michael is really being manipulative, he was mad at the guy who kept his stuff because he hadn't paid the storage fees on it. He tried to get his stuff back from him. This is the person Katherine is now in partnership with. It would be interesting that in the end, Michael gets his stuff back (including the 293 songs) and he would be left with nothing. I can't possibly think like Michael, but ....


~Souza~Topic starter

June 29, 2010, 05:39:06 PM #32 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Rita Hayworth"

I think we're on to something. There is some connection between Kathleen and her finances that are related to the hoax/bam.

I started to believe that when TMZ (I'm basing this on my assumption that TMZ is supplying us with clues) had a headline "Follow the Money trail." But I really believed it when they had the story "Katherine Jackson - the Buck stops here." "the buck stops here" was the saying that Truman had on his desk in the white house, basically meaning that the final decisions are made by him. I do believe that Katherine is calling the plays via Michael. I just don't totally understand the finances. But I do believe that when the financial issues are uncovered, the motive for doing harm to Michael will be established. I still think somehow the will is involved with this as well. At this point, it's all conjecture on my part.

If Michael is really being manipulative, he was mad at the guy who kept his stuff because he hadn't paid the storage fees on it. He tried to get his stuff back from him. This is the person Katherine is now in partnership with. It would be interesting that in the end, Michael gets his stuff back (including the 293 songs) and he would be left with nothing. I can't possibly think like Michael, but ....

I think I'm with you on this.


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