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MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 05:52:50 PM
MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
Originally posted 37 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

AEG put such pressure on Michael Jackson to perform for his London concerts, they effectively forced Dr. Conrad Murray to heavily sedate the singer so he could get rest, which ultimately led to his death ... this according to documents filed with the California Medical Board and obtained by CNN.



According to the 169-page complaint, filed by attorney Brian Oxman on behalf of Joe Jackson, Michael had only sporadically attended rehearsals for the show, leading to a showdown with Michael Jackson on June 18 in which an AEG exec allegedly threatened to "pull the plug" on Jackson's rented home and fire Dr. Murray.

The complaint alleges Murray -- who was allegedly promised $150,000 a month by AEG --  immediately began fueling Jackson with heavy sedatives, including Valium, Ativan, Versed and Propofol so the singer could sleep.

As we first reported, Murray gave Jackson Propofol virtually every night for six weeks -- until Michael died.

The complaint alleges AEG knew the dangers of Murray's treatment but ordered full steam ahead.  And, according to the complaint, AEG turned a blind eye to Murray's request for life saving equipment.

The complaint claims AEG was effectively practicing medicine without a license, by forcing Murray to take radical medical steps to protect the show.

The complaint claims, "Had AEG not violated California law and fulfilled its promise to provide Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation equipment and a nurse, Michael Jackson would not have died on June 25th."

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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 06:07:14 PM

On CNN:


Father of Michael Jackson accuses AEG of singer's death
By Stan Wilson, CNN
June 18, 2010 -- Updated 1817 GMT (0217 HKT)

Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- When the Los Angeles County Coroner ruled Michael Jackson's death a homicide, as a result of "acute propofol intoxication" with other sedatives, the coroner's office also cited a lack of recommended equipment for patient monitoring, precision dosing and resuscitation equipment that may have contributed.

Six months later, Dr. Conrad Murray, who administered Propofol to Jackson, was charged with involuntary manslaughter.

But in a recent complaint filed with the Medical Board of California, Jackson's father, Joe Jackson accuses concert promoter AEG Live of neglecting to provide the recommended equipment and a nurse who was supposed to assist Dr. Murray. Those measures could have prevented the singer's death or revived Jackson when he stopped breathing, according to the complaint.

The California Medical Board is responsible for investigating complaints against physicians.

According to a copy of the 169-page complaint, obtained by CNN and verified by Joe Jackson's attorney, Brian Oxman, AEG, over a six week period, allegedly engaged in "unlawful practice of corporate medicine," by hiring, directing, controlling and demanding that Murray medicate Michael Jackson as he prepared for his "This is it" tour in London.

AEG spokesman Michael Roth declined to comment on the complaint, telling CNN that his legal department has not viewed the documents. Joe Jackson was unavailable, according to attorney Oxman.

Murray's civil attorney, Charles Peckham, declined to comment about the specific allegations against AEG after the complaint was filed.

According to the complaint, AEG Live executives were so concerned over Michael Jackson's alleged failure to show up for rehearsals, that AEG representatives demanded that Murray step in and "wean" Jackson off his alleged dependence on medications provided by other doctors which caused chronic fatigue and disorientation. The complaint states that AEG made an "oral agreement" with Murray on May 8, 2009 based on a drafted contract agreement, promising to provide Murray with equipment, supplies and personnel. The complaint states that Murray immediately accepted AEG's offer for a monthly physician's fee of $150,000.

According to the complaint, Murray made his first order of Propofol on May 12, 2009, and stated in a purported e-mail to AEG that he had begun treating the singer as part of their "oral agreement."

On May 28, Murray allegedly grew impatient because he had not been paid by mid-month as promised by AEG, according to the complaint. Before treating Jackson, Murray, a full time cardiologist, had been mired in such heavy debt, that AEG exploited his hardship as a tactic to exert control over his medical decisions, the complaint alleges. More than two weeks after Murray began treating the singer, AEG had not provided Murray with CPR equipment as he requested and never instructed Murray to cease treating Jackson, the complaint states.

In an interview with CNN's Don Lemon, before the complaint was filed, AEG Live Executive Randy Phillips said Dr. Murray was never officially employed by AEG because the contract was never signed. Phillips said the decision to hire Dr. Murray was solely Jacksons and that he demanded it.

"He (Michael) said, 'You don't understand, my body is what fuels this entire venture and like Barack Obama, I need my own physician with me twenty-four-seven. That's not negotiable," Phillips told CNN's Don Lemon. "And he was so strong about it that I just backed off and said, 'This is a battle I can't win," said Phillips.

By June 18, according to the complaint, Jackson had attended only a few rehearsals, prompting AEG Live's Phillips and "This is It" director Kenny Ortega to demand a face to face meeting with him at Jackson's Holmby Hills estate. Phillips and Ortega insisted that Jackson show up for rehearsals or AEG would "pull the plug" on Jackson's rented house and terminate the services of Murray if he missed another rehearsal, the complaint alleges.

On that same evening, Murray allegedly gave Jackson Valium, Ativan, Versed, and Propofol in order to induce sleep, similar to the medications he allegedly administered over the previous five weeks, the complaint alleges. Murray continued this practice without CPR or nursing assistance which AEG had promised, according to the complaint. Jackson rehearsed on June 19, 23 and 24, according to attorney Oxman. Most of the documentary "This is it" was filmed on those dates, according to AEG Live executive Randy Phillips.

On June 24, AEG sent Murray a revised contract agreement, which mirrored the original May 8, 2009, oral agreement, except it required Jackson's signature, the complaint alleges. Murray signed the agreement and faxed it to AEG although the complaint alleges that AEG knew of the inherent dangers of the treatments Murray was administering and "recklessly" withheld life saving equipment that AEG knew was essential to protect Michael Jackson's life.

"Had AEG not violated California law and fulfilled its promise to provide Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation equipment and a nurse, Michael Jackson would not have died on June 25th," the complaint alleges.

The complaint is supported by 16 exhibits including a purported cost estimate of Murray's medical services and a copy of the purported contract between AEG and Murray.

The cost of medical equipment and other supplies requested by Murray purportedly totaled $8,000 per month. A nurse was estimated to cost $7,000 per month, according to the complaint. The cost of Murray's rental property in London is said to have totaled $8,000 per month, the complaint stated. Murray, who pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter charges, told LAPD investigators that he was never paid for his treatment of Jackson.

A representative at the California Medical Board confirmed to CNN the filing of Jackson's complaint but declined further comment.

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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
Originally posted 37 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

AEG put such pressure on Michael Jackson to perform for his London concerts, they effectively forced Dr.
Conrad Murray to heavily sedate the singer so he could get rest, which ultimately led to his death ... this
according to documents filed with the California Medical Board and obtained by CNN.



According to the 169-page complaint, filed by attorney Brian Oxman on behalf of Joe Jackson, Michael had only sporadically attended rehearsals for the show, leading to a showdown with Michael Jackson on June 18 in
which an AEG exec allegedly threatened to "pull the plug" on Jackson's rented home and fire Dr. Murray.

The complaint alleges Murray -- who was allegedly promised $150,000 a month by AEG --  immediately began fueling Jackson with heavy sedatives, including Valium, Ativan, Versed and Propofol so the singer could sleep.

As we first reported, Murray gave Jackson Propofol virtually every night for six weeks -- until Michael died.

The complaint alleges AEG knew the dangers of Murray's treatment but ordered full steam ahead.  And,
according to the complaint, AEG turned a blind eye to Murray's request for life saving equipment.

The complaint claims AEG was effectively practicing medicine without a license, by forcing Murray to take radical medical steps to protect the show.

The complaint claims, "Had AEG not violated California law and fulfilled its promise to provide Cardio-
Pulmonary Resuscitation equipment and a nurse, Michael Jackson would not have died on June 25th."

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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 08:08:21 PM
According to the complaint, Murray made his first order of Propofol on May 12, 2009, and stated in a purported e-mail to AEG that he had begun treating the singer as part of their "oral agreement."


So according to the CNN report AEG instructed Murray to administer propofol to Michael Jackson and then refused to give him the necessary equipment?  

Did Dr. Murray or AEG just hand these communications over to Joe Jackson's attorney, Brian Oxman?  It would take a subpeona for them to receive all of this information otherwise.  I certainly don't see the prosecutors turning this information over to Brian Oxman with trying their case against Murray first.  I am curious as to how they obtained all of this information to file this suit against AEG???!!!
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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 08:32:59 PM
According to the 169-page complaint, filed by attorney Brian Oxman on behalf of Joe Jackson

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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 08:50:30 PM
I agree with you Jill butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Remember that the house was not locked off for a few days and the family had access. Could there have been a computer that Murray left behind or a brief case. Just thinking out of the box here.
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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
I just find it hard to believe that Dr Murray had to wean MJ off of drugs from other doctors that caused him to be groggy all the time, which in turn he gave him propofol to sleep.  Michael would not walk around like a zombie with his children there.  I firmly believe that MJ loved life and his children and would not do that to himself.  Besides look at how many times during May he went shopping and to Dr. Kleins office.  If he was so wacked out on drugs there is no way he would be able to function like that.
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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 09:17:47 PM
I’m not saying that he was weaning him off drugs by no means. I don’t believe that Michael was addicted to drugs. The family may have gotten the paper work that stated that AEG and Murray were in fact conversing to try and hurt Michael.
They did have access to the house for a few days. And who knows Murray may have left something behind and they found it.
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June 18, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
am i seeing references to a nurse in a few places lately? and didn't delao say a nurse told him micheal was gone.? don't they also seem to be stressing the idea of him being put to sleep every night for six weeks. and wasn't it a nurse who put everyone wise to the propofol in the first place. whats up with that.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 10:01:31 PM
Anyone who has had even a "mild procedure" will know that you are not allowed to drive home, not allowed to make any important decisions or sign important documents and not allowed to operate machinery for the next 24 hrs. And that is just for a mild dose, lets say, being under for 15 minutes !!!    Imagine using this everynight and for a longer period.  You would feel totally groggy and weak and tired for 24hrs.

It really doesn't add up.   There are much safer alternatives for sedation.  

I have always thought this, but didn't want to say it......but is it possible, that the reason for mild sedation was to do some sort of mild procedure everynight????  Skin Repair or something like that???   MJ hated needles.  He was needle phobic.  
And why the tube of toothpaste on the bed???  What other purposed can toothpaste be used for??  I use to use it to cover lovebites. :lol:  :lol:

If a nurse was hired, it would be harder to pretend to kill him????   Too many people involved...
Edit.  I found out other purposes for toothpaste.  It helps remove stains on clothes, ie lipstick, ink etc.

It cleans fingernails.......it helps with acne......it helps take the sting out of bites or burns...........hmmm  many different reasons other than cleaning teeth...Just a thought.
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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 10:05:51 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
am i seeing references to a nurse in a few places lately? and didn't delao say a nurse told him micheal was gone.? don't they also seem to be stressing the idea of him being put to sleep every night for six weeks. and wasn't it a nurse who put everyone wise to the propofol in the first place. whats up with that.

Please see my post about the reference to NURSE! ;)
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June 18, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
Serenitys_Dream, how many messages are related to 911?, this worries me :geek:
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June 18, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
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Serenitys_Dream, how many messages are related to 911?, this worries me :geek:
I'm sorry, I can't answer that, I am not making the DOTS. I've just been trying to decipher them but I have decided to give it a break as there wasn't much discussion on my posts. So I figured why bother if few people think it's important. Maybe someone else can give it a try for a while.

Sorry Michael, but the frustration was making me bitchy.  :(
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June 18, 2010, 10:53:54 PM
Thanks Serenitys_dream for your all your hard work I try to read, my problem is I can't read every single thing omg! I get sleepy when i read I should work on reading. It is really interesting how all of the 9/11 connections. It's just that my head is on some $$$ problems and now also this is like mind boggling. It's like this "death" involves soo much that I don't even know where to look anymore we got conspiracy, 9/11, Elvis, mind control, slip ups, autopsy, fake or real Mike at the O2 etc. Months u know of this wow I'm surprised I passed my college courses. I can't believe I've stuck with this almost a year. It's too much to process for a sistah I think we're all aaah already, but were hanging on Mike we waiting.  ;)
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Re: MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
June 18, 2010, 10:56:54 PM
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MJ's Dad: AEG Has Blood On Its Hands
Originally posted 37 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

AEG put such pressure on Michael Jackson to perform for his London concerts, they effectively forced Dr. Conrad Murray to heavily sedate the singer so he could get rest, which ultimately led to his death ... this according to documents filed with the California Medical Board and obtained by CNN.



According to the 169-page complaint, filed by attorney Brian Oxman on behalf of Joe Jackson, Michael had only sporadically attended rehearsals for the show, leading to a showdown with Michael Jackson on June 18 in which an AEG exec allegedly threatened to "pull the plug" on Jackson's rented home and fire Dr. Murray.

The complaint alleges Murray -- who was allegedly promised $150,000 a month by AEG --  immediately began fueling Jackson with heavy sedatives, including Valium, Ativan, Versed and Propofol so the singer could sleep.

As we first reported, Murray gave Jackson Propofol virtually every night for six weeks -- until Michael died.

The complaint alleges AEG knew the dangers of Murray's treatment but ordered full steam ahead.  And, according to the complaint, AEG turned a blind eye to Murray's request for life saving equipment.

The complaint claims AEG was effectively practicing medicine without a license, by forcing Murray to take radical medical steps to protect the show.

The complaint claims, "Had AEG not violated California law and fulfilled its promise to provide Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation equipment and a nurse, Michael Jackson would not have died on June 25th."

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I just KNEW it was these AEG F'ers that killed Michael! That is why I refused to go see that Movie. My BF said "do you want to see that movie"? and i said "No - because the company that made that movie is who killed him"! OK, it's Full Steam Ahead for me. That Calif. DA and AG Better NOT try to wesel out of bringing charges against AEG! I don't care how many millions AEG contributed to their campaign funds! This Corp. is pure Evil and Greed, and they had NO Right! I am Furious at AEG!
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