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the handwriting in the "thank you" note is Michael's

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ok, i'm not sure if i should post it here but i found it on the other forum. TMZ posted this article on May 17th 2010 : http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/17/lisa-mari ... thank-you/ the handwriting on the "thank you" card looks extremely familiar and many of us agreed it could be Michael's handwriting. and now it looks like it's confirmed by an handwriting expert too. all credit goes to Biscuit from the MJHD.net forum. here's what she wrote on Jun 07, 2010 :

QuoteUPDATE! I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH SIMONE, as far as the ambulance report there is no match to it being Michaels handwriting...as far as the thank you note..she says she can definatly see the f is pretty much exact as on one of michaels letters aswell as the e's/ She says she knows this person is a male and definitely American, and they also change their handwriting alot but something are still present. Iv sent her one more letter of Michaels to make sure with the thank you note comparison then she will email me the report and i shall post.

Ok so i said i would leave the hoaxing stuff now..but seeing as you still werent sure on the hand writing comparison i did with the thank you note and the ambulance report, and suggested getting a handwriting comparison. I have been in contact with a handwriting EXPERT who does these things for all kinds of reasons and have paid to get this finished with.

I have sent off part of the report (so she cant see who its about or what it is)
The thank you note (without the LMP) so you doesn't recognise it too much.)
And a few letters of Michaels.

If this comes back as a match to any of them..and people still decide not to believe it..coming from someone who does this for a living..then i officially will not do anythiing more to try and prove it to you lol.

It will be with us at the end of the week. L.O.V.E (fedora-)

JUST incase you think im going to make my own false report to try and fix an end result just to be right (rofl-)


Sure no problem,


From: Christina H <christina**********@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:13:59 +0100
To: <info@********handwriting.com>
Subject: RE: Handwriting Comparison

Hi Simone,

I have paid the invoice. Would you be able to send me an online copy of the report also through email when it is complete?

Thanks

> To: christina*********@msn.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:53:10 +0200
> Subject: Re: Handwriting Comparison
> From: info@*******handwriting.com
>
>
>
> Hi Christina,
>
> Thank you, I have managed to print them out. Can you please confirm what you would like, either a verbal opinion £*** or a full report £*** I will then send you an invoice via Paypal to reflect your decision.
>
> Kind regards
> Simone


then on Jun 14, 2010 she posted the report :
QuoteFull Written Report for Christina ******

Purpose of examination
I have been given 8 small samples of handwriting and was asked to examine them and determine if any of 1(thank you note), 2 & 3 matched 4,5,6,7 & 8.
At a glance I was able to determine that samples 4, 5 & 6 were actually written by the same hand. This was confirmed to me.
On close examination I could see the following characteristics in the samples that matched with sample 1.

Sample 4
• The letter "m" in "me" has almost 3 humps to it, like the "m" in "much" in sample 1(thank you note). The starting stroke looks like a continuation of the actual letter
• The letter "h" in "how" strongly resembles the "h" in "much " (sample 1) but without the added loop

Sample 5
• The word "thank" is consistent to "Thank" in sample 1(thank you note)
• The letter "r" in "never" is consistent to the "r" in "Flowers" (sample 1)
• The connecting letter "o" in "childhood" resembles the same link of "o" in "flowers" (sample 1) the letter is linked together at the top as opposed to the middle or bottom

Sample 6
• The letter "F" in "Forever" and the last letter "r" is consistent to the "F" and "r" in "Flowers" (sample 1)
• The word "for" is consistent to the word "for" in sample 1
• The formation of the loop in the letter "y" in "you" is consistent to the loop in the letter "g" in "donating" (sample 1)

Sample 7
• The letter "h" in "they" is consistent to the letter "h" in "much" (sample 1) (thank you note)
• The letter "r" in "our" is consistent to the letter "r" in "Flowers" (sample 1)(thank you note)
• The letter "g" in "things" is consistent to the letter "g" in "donating" (sample 1)(thank you note)


Summary
I am confident in saying that samples 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8 were written by the same person that wrote sample 1(than k you note). There are far too many consistent characteristics to deny this fact.
Unfortunately there wasn't enough consistent evidence to include samples 2 & 3. The only observation I could be confident in making is that they were written by the same person.




(Name deleted)
Graphologist

(the 8th one was an extra one to make sure but i deleted it off my computer)
these were the samples they were talking about :
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curls

September 05, 2010, 12:24:42 PM #60 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.

dontmakeitfactual

September 05, 2010, 12:56:12 PM #61 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Lol, I wasn't even aware of this thread until today!

Of course we couldn't have a complete Elvis/MJ parallel without a graphologist positive handwriting analysis !  8-)

What's next? Can't wait!

whatyourheartsays

September 05, 2010, 01:03:30 PM #62 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

Just remember Mj helped MANY hospital throughout the world.Giving money, buying equipment. I guess he would have found any answer to the question he had in mind about anything. He had a lot of relations with medical centers.

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SoldierofLOVE

September 05, 2010, 01:18:58 PM #63 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.

I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...

Wow.  that's so interesting.  michael is quite the prankster it seems.   everywhere i go these days, i look closely to see if Michael might be right under my nose in disguise!   8-)

SoldierofLOVE

September 05, 2010, 01:28:31 PM #64 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "curls"

I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.

I forget where I read this, but I read somewhere that Michael was very close to personnel in operating room at UCLA and he was often allowed to watch surgeries from the observation area.  I read that he was fascinated by surgical procedures.  I'll try and remember where I read this.  Might have been somehwere on this forum?

TinkerbellStardust

September 05, 2010, 01:31:17 PM #65 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "Grace"

Elvis was said to have filled out his own autopsy report.

Really? I did not know that. Awesome.
Quote from: "mumof3"

thankyou for finding this out for us more weird stuff for us to add to the list many thanks

I think it would be pretty of cool if they/he did fill it out them/himselves..  :D And very bold.

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curls

September 05, 2010, 01:50:52 PM #66 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

Just remember Mj helped MANY hospital throughout the world.Giving money, buying equipment. I guess he would have found any answer to the question he had in mind about anything. He had a lot of relations with medical centers.

Oh yes, how could I have forgotten MJ's dealings with hospitals were in no way limited to his own medical visits. I reckon he felt very comfortable in hospitals!

curls

September 05, 2010, 01:52:38 PM #67 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"

Quote from: "curls"

I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.

I forget where I read this, but I read somewhere that Michael was very close to personnel in operating room at UCLA and he was often allowed to watch surgeries from the observation area.  I read that he was fascinated by surgical procedures.  I'll try and remember where I read this.  Might have been somehwere on this forum?

Thanks for that interesting snippet of information. As I just said, he obviously felt very at home in hospital settings!

Cameron

September 05, 2010, 03:37:39 PM #68 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"

Quote from: "curls"

I've been wondering the past couple of days if MJ's many supposed hospital visits over the years were partly fact finding missions or information gathering exercises, so he could learn first hand about medical terminology and hospital procedures in readiness for something like this. I may be way off of course, and if his hospital visits have all been for genuine health reasons I sincerely apologise, but this has just been on my mind.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's been totally blatant and 'in your face', with all these 'official' forms etc. and could have had them all prepared and yes, even written by himself, even before they were 'needed', just releasing them at the appropriate time.

I forget where I read this, but I read somewhere that Michael was very close to personnel in operating room at UCLA and he was often allowed to watch surgeries from the observation area.  I read that he was fascinated by surgical procedures.  I'll try and remember where I read this.  Might have been somehwere on this forum?


Wow, I didn't know. I would love to see this news.  :)

" I'm going to shock the world, just watch. "

Grace

September 06, 2010, 05:55:05 AM #69 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "TinkerbellStardust"

Quote from: "Grace"

Elvis was said to have filled out his own autopsy report.

Really? I did not know that. Awesome.
I have to correct myself: it was the "Pre-Autopsy Report", the Medical Examiner's report, but still after having "passed".
Quote

The actual death certificate for Elvis Presley was not even signed until approximately two months after the alleged occurrence. However, the Pre-Autopsy Report by the Medical Examiner in the case, Jerry Francisco, was considered shortened at best, and has been confirmed to contain consistent handwriting of the 'alleged deceased'. The Commission concurs with these findings.

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farhatmjjTopic starter

September 06, 2010, 08:47:41 AM #70 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

i firmly believe the handwriting in the thank you note is Michaels but i'm confused with the ambulance report, then in makes confused all over again!  :x

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MJonmind

September 06, 2010, 12:53:35 PM #71 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.

I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...

That makes me wonder about the identity of this man.[attachment=0:30eizmb0]GrinGuy[1].jpg[/attachment:30eizmb0]
And when you go on the site http://www.sunflowerguy.com and go to community, and the middle video, I wonder if this is the same guy that delivered the flowers in the still photo. http://www.sunflowerguy.com/community_outreach.php Square chin, MJ's other voice, fat suit - could work. And Gringuy = Greenguy. :mrgreen:  Since Harvey and Jason Levin are "relatives", maybe that's an inside bit of info. Just a wild thought! Hidden in plain site. We've got to keep our eyes open to possibilities!

whatyourheartsays

September 06, 2010, 01:52:28 PM #72 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest
Quote from: "MJonmind"

Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"

yesterday on tv, they were showing an hotel in south france and the guy said Michael was a customer there and used to make jokes to employee, disguised in homeless, or gentleman, he even rented a truck and pretended to deliver stuff to the hotel.

I can so imagine Michael write his own death certificate...

That makes me wonder about the identity of this man.[attachment=0:xiuapwd2]GrinGuy[1].jpg[/attachment:xiuapwd2]
And when you go on the site http://www.sunflowerguy.com and go to community, and the middle video, I wonder if this is the same guy that delivered the flowers in the still photo. http://www.sunflowerguy.com/community_outreach.php Square chin, MJ's other voice, fat suit - could work. And Gringuy = Greenguy. :mrgreen:  Since Harvey and Jason Levin are "relatives", maybe that's an inside bit of info. Just a wild thought! Hidden in plain site. We've got to keep our eyes open to possibilities!
GRINGUY just jumped to my eyes on the picture :mrgreen:
Do not push the carebear in the nettles

2MuchMJLuv

September 06, 2010, 08:56:28 PM #73 Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by Guest

I get the fact that a handwriting expert is involved in all of this, but I'm totally lost about what transpired prior to that. I attempted to dig up the original topic (if it wasn't locked, dead and buried), but I was unsuccessful. Can someone PLEASE provide a brief recap? If you don't feel like it, I understand. Thanks.  :?

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