The Real Dave Dave ? ? ? ?

[Jennie]

I never trust or believe in these things, anonymous or not I just dont give these stories any credibility. I cant because there has been so much BS thrown to us fans and hoaxers on the net that it has become litteraly impossibe to sort through it to determine what is fake and what is real. IMO there is proabably 95% BS and only 5% truth in everything we've come across since june 25th. :roll:

[Loveneverfeltsogood]

Even if it's a real e-mail that she received ( i think it's weird that she copied and pasted it instead of show a screen shot ), we don't know if it comes from a person who really knows Dave Dave, i mean that we know what this web is about ( stop the hoax investigation and attack the hoax forums, especially this one ) so anyone could send her a message with the words she wants to hear.

[*Mo*]

Even if it's a real e-mail that she received ( i think it's weird that she copied and pasted it instead of show a screen shot ), we don't know if it comes from a person who really knows Dave Dave, i mean that we know what this web is about ( stop the hoax investigation and attack the hoax forums, especially this one ) so anyone could send her a message with the words she wants to hear.

You took the words right out of my mouth  :D

[farhatmjj]

sorry, I don't buy it...
Plus,  it's from an anonymous source....
:roll:

Plus, it's in "stop the hoax" blog..... so Sniff Sniff..... :roll:

what's stop the hoax blog?

Blog: http://whataboutmj.wordpress.com/

thanks Puff... i wish i wouldn't have seen this though.  :|

[Glinda]

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =535794708   :?:  :?:

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Take a look at DD myspace page. You may change your mind. This makes me think the is letter is true...

He wants eveyone to celebrate his birthday? A bit presumptuous? I say  the guy is feeding off of us and MJ's name....he likes the attention and I think he needs help....mental help. Sorry..

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =535770042

[Serenitys_Dream]

Take a look at DD myspace page. You may change your mind. This makes me think the is letter is true...

He wants eveyone to celebrate his birthday? A bit presumptuous? I say  the guy is feeding off of us and MJ's name....he likes the attention and I think he needs help....mental help. Sorry..

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =535770042

June 18th 2010 is the 34th anniversary of my birth.
6 + 1 + 8 + 2 + 1 = 18
1 + 8 = 9
:D

3 + 4 = 7

[Serenitys_Dream]

David Rothenberg Burn Victim
September 4, 2009 by John
Filed under People

David Rothenberg a burn victim, just because of his father. A drama was staged on the true story of David Rothenberg. David Rothenberg was played by Matthew Lawrence who starred in this movie which was typically made for TV presentation. This movie "David" was presented on October 28, 1988 at ABC TV Channel.

This 20-year-old David Rothenberg is an icon of bravery and courage, he was just 6-year-old when his father burned him, it was a near death experience for him, and he faced the death in his childhood. The story of movie "David" is established on a book co-written by Marie Rothenberg and Mel White, it this book they have explained the true story and all the incidents of him life thoroughly they have also explained in this book that how David Rothenberg was burned over 90% of his body by his father. His father Charles Rothenberg tried to kill him; he was brutally tortured and burned.

Movie shows how David Rothenberg estranged father, "Charles Rothenberg", who was unable to take care of their young one tried to kill him in a hotel room, in this film Bernadette Peters portrayed mother of David, Marie Rothenberg, who is fighting with crisis of her life. Overall this movie was a treat to watch.
http://www.makli.com/david-rothenberg-burn-victim-006211/

Famed Burn Victim Wins Unrelated Court Case
Sep 18, 2006 1:03 pm US/Pacific

(CBS) LOS ANGELES An aspiring singer who was thrust into the spotlight at age 6 when his father set him afire won an order to evict a man who tricked him into signing over title to an Inglewood condominium, a lawyer said Monday.

Dave Dave, now 30, was known as David Rothenberg when he was doused with kerosene and more than 90 percent of his body was burned in a Buena Park motel room.

His father Charles later served seven years of a 13-year prison sentence.

Inglewood Superior Court Judge Deirdre Hill issued the eviction order Thursday against Darnello Jackson, who claimed he was a cousin of singer Michael Jackson, according to Dave's lawyer, Brian Oxman.

The defendant claimed he had a verbal agreement with Dave to buy the property, but Hill rejected the contention because nothing was in writing, Oxman said.

Dave met Darnello Jackson at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch in December 2003 during a rally in support of the entertainer, who was awaiting trial at the time on child molestation charges -- of which he was later acquitted.

Darnello Jackson and Michael Jackson are not related, according to Oxman.

The eviction order was the second court victory in a month for Dave, who sued Darnello Jackson last May.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Rita Miller signed a default judgment on Aug. 18 against Jackson and ordered him to pay Dave more than $90,000 in damages.

Dave was named as a potential character witness during Michael Jackson's 2005 trial on charges of molesting a young boy who visited Neverland Ranch.

The entertainer was acquitted of all counts and Dave never had to testify.

Dave, who lives in Utah, said he writes music professionally and is also working on a solo singing project. He said he is a tenor who started in pop, but has now moved to another genre.

Michael Jackson, 48, has supported his singing efforts and has encouraged him to develop his own style without trying to sway him in one creative direction or another, Dave said.

Dave said he will sell the condominium after Darnello Jackson moves out.
http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?showtopic=21388

BURN VICTIM, 13, WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS DAD
Published: Thursday, Jan. 25, 1990 12:00 a.m. MST

The boy whose father set him on fire seven years ago in a twisted attempt to punish his ex-wife held a news conference to tell his newly paroled dad that he never wants to see him again.

"I wanted it to (be known) nationally that I never want to see my father again," David Rothenberg, 13, said at a news conference he held to tell his father, who was paroled Wednesday and presumably watched his son on television. "I wanted to make it clear to him."I think he still wants to be my father, but that can never be done again," he said. "If he was my real dad, he wouldn't act like he did."

The youngster, who refers to his father only by his first name, said he would be able to put the experience behind him only "when Charles dies."

David was 6 when Charles Rothenberg set him on fire in a Buena Park, Calif., motel room in 1983 after he and his ex-wife had argued over visitation rights. Burned over 90 percent of his body, David was severely disfigured but now lives a remarkably normal life.

David, while saying he is no longer afraid of his father, is adamant about never wanting to see him or talk to him again.

"I don't want to say anything to him," he said. "Charles doesn't understand very well. He still thinks I want to see him."
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Rothenberg was freed from prison Wednesday and taken to a secret location, where he will be the most tightly controlled parolee in California history. Carrying two boxes of personal belongings, Rothenberg's only comment when he was freed was "I'm afraid and upset," a prison spokesman said.

Officials said he will live in an apartment and has a clerical job with a private company.

Escorted by two parole agents, Rothenberg was released shortly past midnight after serving 6 1/2 years in prison and was driven to his parole destination, which authorities said they were forced to keep secret because of intense public reaction to his crime. At least one California town refused to accept him.

"I don't want to know where he is," said David.

David was asleep when his father poured kerosene around his bed and set it on fire, burning him beyond recognition.

David, who said he has had nightmares in which his father comes after him, said he is comforted by assurances from the state that Rothenberg will be kept away from him.

"I'm not afraid. I think he's in good hands," said the teenager, who sleeps with a BB gun near his bed.

Tipton Kindel, a spokesman for the state Department of Corrections, said Rothenberg's three-year parole will be the most restrictive in California history, costing taxpayers more than $200,000 a year.

Much of the money will pay the salaries of three full-time parole agents who will alternate watching Rothenberg 24 hours a day to ensure he does not contact his son. He must also wear an electronic "leash," a transmitter that will signal authorities if he leaves his assigned area.

Rothenberg, 49, has written to local news organizations that his only reason for living is to see his son and "ask his forgiveness."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/83363/

So if he was born in 1983 he would be 27. Is he 21, 27, 34? and these numbers all add up to significant numbers in this 3, 9 & 7 and when exactly is his birthday?

[MJonmind]

Each MJ fan has their own preconceived thinking about Michael and the people around him. It colours everything they read. The truth is that the real Dave Dave has had a uniquely difficult life, ongoing with the release of his father. Michael took him under his wing as he has done for thousands. The truth is there are haters out there who delight in screwing with the MJ fans. The truth about DD's character and attitude is probably somewhere in the middle.

[ForstAMoon]

it seems that Dave Dave myspace account is gone...

[Delphi]

Real suspicious.

[mjstruestfriend]

Yep! He closed his myspace account. It's very disappointing that he did that. I mean WHY??? If he had the intention of making friends, it should have been ok. Unfortunately, he seemed upset that all this time many of his members assumed that he's MJ. Well what did he expect if he often talks like MJ? I know he has a dark past life and it must be a very painful experience for him. But one cannot just erase good intention people out their life. I agree with the person who wrote this post. DD is just upset and disappoint with himself because he feels that he doesn't exist if not for MJ. What a sad point a view. He's wrong about it. I saw that many believed that he's the real DD and gave lovely comments and encouragement everyday on his myspace. How could he be so mean to his friends???  :cry:

[simalves]

I think he is born in 1976 and was victimised when he was 6 so that is sometime in 82.
He will be 34 in 2010

In 2006 he was 30 (2nd article)
In 1990 he was 13 (3rd article written in Jan and hence he is not yet 14)

Only the first has made a mistake calling him 20 in 2009, but the movie was aired in 1988, about 20 years before the article. He was obviously 33 by that time.

[Serenitys_Dream]

I am sorry but I have to say this. I am Positive that the Dave Dave on myspace was involved in this and most likely wasn't the real Dave Rothenberg but Michael or he was sharing the account with Michael.

Reasons (though I am sure there are even more than these):
We don't know that David Rothenberg even actually changed his name to DAVE DAVE. If he did change it to this why select a doubled named? This dual name is relevant to many theories including Michael used Doubles, Dualism, Michael using disguises.

On the LKL show sure looked and sounded like Michael in Disguise to me and many others. I know there are doubters but there always will be no matter what you do or say.

The Video! This video is FULL of clues that in many theories. The Garbage cans - it's all garbage. The cans doubled, Dave/Michael doubled = Dualism. The Third Eye - All seeing eye, Egyptian symbol with a dual meaning of protection and the gods seeing everything. The Third Eye is also employed by the Illuminati - see the back of the American dollar.

[youtube:2xknqrij]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GolrKskS55U[/youtube:2xknqrij]

The updates to Dave/Michael's status gave out hints and clues before things were posted to the forums or in response to things we were looking at and they were always relevant.

For instance: Dave/Michael status said:
"I love you all especially my Piccola. You know who you are."

PICCOLA = Italian for SMALL
http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|Piccola

What woman's name means SMALL?

PAULINE
Origin and Meaning of the Name Pauline
Gender: Girl
Origin: Latin
Meaning: Small; humble
Origin: French
Meaning: Small; humble
Pronunciation: (PAW leen)
Form of: Paulinus
Used in: English and French speaking countries (I'm seeing a French trend here too)
Additional info: The French name Pauline has a double etymology. It is a diminutive form of Paule, the feminine form of Paul, but it may also be derived from the Roman family name Paulinus.

I then found this woman's name in 4 of Michael Jackson's songs and made a video about it.

[youtube:2xknqrij]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRyRgZEavU[/youtube:2xknqrij]

I believe that Dave Dave on myspace WAS Michael. This was an attempt to communicate with us. Maybe he has deleted it because it was becoming so controversial, maybe because we are getting close to BAM or maybe because so many were again doubting.

You must be aware that there really are those who are working against Michael. He told us this himself. The phone conversation recordings in which he states he was afraid, the family telling us there was a conspiracy. Don't you think they would try to discredit any and all sources. Please open your mind, take a critical, logical, analytical perspective and stop buying the garbage they are feeding us.

[foreverking]

I am sorry but I have to say this. I am Positive that the Dave Dave on myspace was involved in this and most likely wasn't the real Dave Rothenberg but Michael or he was sharing the account with Michael.

Reasons (though I am sure there are even more than these):
We don't know that David Rothenberg even actually changed his name to DAVE DAVE. If he did change it to this why select a doubled named? This dual name is relevant to many theories including Michael used Doubles, Dualism, Michael using disguises.

On the LKL show sure looked and sounded like Michael in Disguise to me and many others. I know there are doubters but there always will be no matter what you do or say.

The Video! This video is FULL of clues that in many theories. The Garbage cans - it's all garbage. The cans doubled, Dave/Michael doubled = Dualism. The Third Eye - All seeing eye, Egyptian symbol with a dual meaning of protection and the gods seeing everything. The Third Eye is also employed by the Illuminati - see the back of the American dollar.

[youtube:ps8zaoi6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GolrKskS55U[/youtube:ps8zaoi6]

The updates to Dave/Michael's status gave out hints and clues before things were posted to the forums or in response to things we were looking at and they were always relevant.

For instance: Dave/Michael status said:
"I love you all especially my Piccola. You know who you are."

PICCOLA = Italian for SMALL
http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|Piccola

What woman's name means SMALL?

PAULINE
Origin and Meaning of the Name Pauline
Gender: Girl
Origin: Latin
Meaning: Small; humble
Origin: French
Meaning: Small; humble
Pronunciation: (PAW leen)
Form of: Paulinus
Used in: English and French speaking countries (I'm seeing a French trend here too)
Additional info: The French name Pauline has a double etymology. It is a diminutive form of Paule, the feminine form of Paul, but it may also be derived from the Roman family name Paulinus.

I then found this woman's name in 4 of Michael Jackson's songs and made a video about it.

[youtube:ps8zaoi6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRyRgZEavU[/youtube:ps8zaoi6]

I believe that Dave Dave on myspace WAS Michael. This was an attempt to communicate with us. Maybe he has deleted it because it was becoming so controversial, maybe because we are getting close to BAM or maybe because so many were again doubting.

You must be aware that there really are those who are working against Michael. He told us this himself. The phone conversation recordings in which he states he was afraid, the family telling us there was a conspiracy. Don't you think they would try to discredit any and all sources. Please open your mind, take a critical, logical, analytical perspective and stop buying the garbage they are feeding us.

I totally agree with you. I think MJ and DD were in on this together and after that Sun article, things just got too crazy. Why would he delete the MS a day after this so called letter.  Seems like someone doesn't want us to believe MJ was DD. and they are going through a whole lot of trouble to convince us that DD is a bad guy. I smell a rat.