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The Elvis Presley Conspiracy (Part IV): What does it all mean?
Many people have contacted me wondering about the final installment in The Probate Lawyer Blog's coverage of Eliza Presley and her efforts to prove she's telling the truth about The Elvis Presley Conspiracy.  Here are the prior installments to refresh your memory.  I promised I would share my personal thoughts about Eliza's DNA and other evidence.



Now I am able to report that I have read all of Eliza's reports from the Paleo-DNA Laboratory in Ontario, Canada, which analyzed the DNA.  In fact, it's only one of many labs that have examined the DNA at different times.  But it's the only lab to have issued reports about all the various samples.

This Paleo-DNA lab reports show:

  • Eliza and "Jesse" are "1.6 x 10 [to the fifth power] times more likely to be half-siblings as compared to an untested, unrelated person of the general population.  These statistics indicate that these two individuals are likely to be biologically related as half-siblings sharing one parent."  The report shows a match of 9 out of the 13 "loci" tested.
  • The likelihood of Jesse being Eliza's father is zero (apparently 11 out of 13 matching "loci" is needed for that).
  • Jesse and Brenda Smith [the recognized maternal first cousin of Elvis] are 418 times more likely to be related than someone from the general population, suggesting they are biologically related.  6 out of 13 "loci" match.
  • Jesse and Donna Presley [the recognized paternal first cousin of Elvis] are 45.7 times more likely to be related than the general public, again indicating they are likely to be biologically related.  5 out of 9 "loci" match.
  • Eliza and Donna Presley are 31.95 times more likely to be related, so once again, they are likely to be related.  5 out of 9 "loci" match.
  • The 2002 FOX TV Jesse sample was a 100% match with the 2008 Jesse sample (the pink envelope sent to Eliza).  All 13 out of 13 "loci" match.
The matching number of "loci" determines if there is a genetic match of kinship.  The closer the relationship between people tested means more "loci" will match.  Each person would match himself or herself 100%, and no one else (unless there was an identical twin).


With these reports, there are way too many matching "loci" for all of this to be a coincidence.

These reports show that Eliza and the person now referred to by many as "Jesse" are half-siblings, and Jesse in turn is biologically related to the known cousins on both sides of the family tree to Elvis Presley.  Because Elvis never had any full siblings (other than a twin, Jessie, who was stillborn), no one else could match cousins on both sides but Elvis himself.

Think about it -- who else is related that close to your cousins on both sides of your family?  Only you and your siblings.  Even your children and parents wouldn't match as close because they only share half of your DNA.

And I'm not the only one who read the reports and came to this conclusion.  Suzanne Stratford did another report for FOX 8 TV News about Eliza's DNA evidence, which you can watch here.  This report concludes that the samples do match.

Eliza also sent the results to another independent DNA company to verify the results.  The lab owner, Dr. Donald Yates, said publicly that the DNA supported Eliza's claim and that Jesse had to be Elvis.  And yes, he said, this means that Elvis is alive.  Here's a Memphis newspaper article about it.

Does this mean the world is ready to believe Eliza?

Not quite yet.  Elvis' death is a "truth" that has been accepted for more than 30 years.  Eliza is literally trying to rewrite history.  She's going to need absolute, undeniable proof before she can garner widespread acceptance.  But, she's spent too many years of her life battling those who don't want the truth to come out to stop now.

While the evidence I've seen is strong and compelling, I believe the public will need to see something more direct and concrete to prove a conspiracy this strong.  Relying on blind samples provided by cousins, outside of the court process, is not enough to change the history books.

There are only two ways to do so.

One would be for Lisa Marie Presley to come forward and provide a little saliva for a DNA test.  The attorney for Elvis Presley Enterprises said in the past that Lisa Marie won't, because once she does it for one person, then she'll have to do it for everyone claiming to be related to Elvis.

The problem with that excuse is that Eliza is the only one who has ever presented enough evidence to convince a judge to reopen a Presley Estate.  No one else has gotten that far.

Second, if Lisa Marie provides her DNA once, there would be a record of it and she wouldn't have to ever submit it again.  The one sample could be tested against anyone claiming to be related to Elvis.  So why not do it?

So far, she refused to cooperate when asked by the FOX TV News team in Cleveland, even though it would have quickly ended this entire debate.  In fact, Lisa Marie moved to London shortly after Eliza Presley's lawsuit was refiled last August.

Eliza tells me that she will try to compel Lisa Marie to provide her DNA through the ongoing court case, but if Lisa Marie remains in Europe, that's not going to happen.

Which means there is only one other option to conclusively expose the conspiracy to the world.  Vernon's grave would have to be exhumed and his body tested.  And while they're at it, Elvis' grave should be opened as well.

I know, it sounds very distasteful, and I've asked Eliza about doing that very thing.  She doesn't want to do it, unless she absolutely has to.  When I first asked her about that possibility, she said it was "unthinkable".

I for one believe there is no choice if Eliza wants to prove she's telling the truth ... unless Lisa Marie Presley changes her mind and donates a little saliva.

Exhuming bodies of famous people for DNA testing has been done before.  Here's an article I wrote about famed football player George "The Gipp" Gipper.  His body was exhumed for testing because of people claiming to be heirs.

In the book I co-wrote with Danielle Mayoras, Trial & Heirs:  Famous Fortune Fights!, we include the story of Sonny Bono.  A sample was taken from his body for paternity testing, based on a claim of someone who said he was Bono's secret love-child.

Will Eliza's journey come to this?  We'll have to see.  Eliza Presley's court case is back on track and scheduled to come to a head this summer.  Hopefully, Lisa Marie will reconsider her position and not force Eliza to do what she really doesn't want to do -- seek court permission to exhume Vernon's body.

Until that moment comes, we have to examine the evidence that's there.  Is the DNA evidence foolproof?  No.  While Dr. Yates and others are prepared to say, under oath, that it's definitive, there is the issue of proof in terms where the samples came from.  

Eliza can establish the chain of custody showing how she obtained the samples.  But for people to accept it, they have to believe her tale about how she got the DNA.

In other words, what if she's making the whole thing up?  That's something I've thought about at length (I am a lawyer, after all).  If Eliza invented all of this, and the DNA isn't from Presley relatives but is really from her own cousins, and none of them are Elvis relations, then all of the following would have to be true:

  • Jesse would have to be "in on it," because his DNA matches Eliza's -- so they really are half-siblings.
  • That would mean either she or Jesse would have had to track the other down, despite their age difference, because Eliza was adopted as a baby and didn't know she had a brother.
  • They would have also had to track down cousins from both sides of Jesse's family, which again would have been tough because Eliza was adopted.
  • The would-be-scam would have been started back in at least 2001, because that's when the Dr. Hinton book about Elvis being alive was published.
  • The scammers would have had to fool Suzanne Stratford and her bosses at FOX 8 TV News (unless they're in on it, of course), because they never would have done the stories if they thought Eliza and Jesse were committing fraud.
  • They would had to have fooled Dr. Yates and his DNA company, as well as Shirley Mason (the graphologist), among many others -- not to mention the Missouri Attorney General.
Plus, they would have had to plan to submit the Jesse DNA to FOX 8 TV News back in 2002 and then wait to spring their master plan into action in 2008, because Eliza's 2008 sample from the pink Elvis envelope and the 2002 Jesse sample that FOX 8 TV News had tested match each other.  Why begin a scam in 2001 only to wait until 2008 to see it through?

Not to mention the fact that if this was all a master scheme to defraud the public, through a court proceeding, why would they have done it knowing that it would be so easy for their plan to fall apart?  Elvis Presley Enterprises simply has to march into court with the DNA of Lisa Marie, or either one of the two cousins tested for that matter, and they could prove in a snap that it's not true ... unless, of course, it IS true.

In other words, if this was a fraud, it would be so easy for the "Presley" camp to disprove it that no one would think they could get away with it   Yet no one has come forward in the court case to stop Eliza.

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy how they could have pulled all this off if it was a giant scam.  As hard as it was for me to believe, as an attorney, that Elvis may actually be alive, I find it much more believable that all this evidence is legitimate than Eliza and several others having engineered this entire scam years ago, knowing that it would involve testing of DNA.

But again, no one will believe it for certain unless Lisa Marie Presley cooperates or Vernon's body is exhumed.

That will silence all the doubters.  There would be no way to fake that DNA.

Stay tuned until this summer.  That's when the real fun begins.

[This is the fourth article in a four-part series covering the Eliza Presley case.  You can read Part I here, Part II here and Part III here]

Posted by:  Author and probate attorney Andrew W. Mayoras, co-author of Trial & Heirs: Famous Fortune Fights!  and co-founder and shareholder of The Center for Probate Litigation and The Center for Elder Law in metro-Detroit, Michigan, which concentrate in probate litigation, estate planning, and elder law.  You can email him at awmayoras @ brmmlaw.com.
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 02:39:08 AM
Umm, what.?
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 02:43:06 AM
I'm pretty sure of Elvis's hoax now.
I wonder why Lisa won't provide a sample though..  :roll:
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 02:50:23 AM
yet another redirection suggesting Elvis faked his death... the arguments are compelling enough for one to believe it, what's puzzling me is why this focus on Elvis? Lisa-Marie... the link between Michael and Elvis. & she has a part to play in this hoax too (i.e. sunflowers...) how do we connect the dots in this?

Maybe, just maybe, BOTH Elvis & Michael are gonna make a comeback?
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 02:55:25 AM
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if Lisa Marie provides her DNA once, there would be a record of it and she wouldn't have to ever submit it again. The one sample could be tested against anyone claiming to be related to Elvis. So why not do it?

Million dollar question......  :? and that makes me wonder.....
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 03:44:37 AM
could there be truth in the claim from the so called "daughter" of elvis,the one no one believes.......and that lisa is in fact a fake.......dna is no big deal to give....so she should be happy to prove she is who she is.......unless....she isnt who she says she is.........either way has the "other" daughter given dna.....?????that would help...and if not...why not.......what a mystery we have here........and yet more questions....ha ha xxxxxx
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 06:28:58 AM
by *Mo* » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:14 pm

5+4-1-1=7

lol :D
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 06:41:03 AM
Quote from: "willddoMJ"
by *Mo* » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:14 pm

5+4-1-1=7

lol :D
on the 1st of the 6th, too
1+6=7 :mrgreen:
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:02:14 AM
Looks like Elvis really faked his death.
I can't get over Michael's connection to Elvis -  through Lisa.
Michael stated he was afraid not to die like Elvis. He discussed it with Lisa.
And yet he "died" like Elvis.
The connection is obvious to me.
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:37:08 AM
MJ should not have any problems regarding ID when he comes back. DNA is on record and many direct family members.

Why should LMP help reveal that her father is alive.  If he wanted to be alive, wouldn't he come back?  Am I being dense here?  One love.
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:41:43 AM
Stay tuned until this summer. That's when the real fun begins

That is all I could focus on...lol! I feel like that could mean a lot of things.
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:43:31 AM
This redirection is not the first about Elvis faking his death.

This reminds me of Cassandra and Derek Clontz.

On June 29th they posted this: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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When they stoped posting we thought they were fake, but now I don't know..... If now I read again their posts I believe them again
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:44:01 AM
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Stay tuned until this summer. That's when the real fun begins

That is all I could focus on...lol! I feel like that could mean a lot of things.


That gave me chills too  :D
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:46:55 AM
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Looks like Elvis really faked his death.
I can't get over Michael's connection to Elvis -  through Lisa.
Michael stated he was afraid not to die like Elvis. He discussed it with Lisa.
And yet he "died" like Elvis.
The connection is obvious to me.

That's what I'm thinking too... what would be awesome is if both king's revealed their fake deaths around the same time. That would REALLY wake the world up, especially if Elvis is concerned about the things Mike is concerned about.
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Re: TIAI 6/1/2010
June 01, 2010, 07:54:21 AM
is this jesse supposed to still be alive?
could this be who really died?
could elvis body have been moved to fl ?(if micheal returns everyone would just assume it"s empty )
do you think some day soon we might  all wind up in the same looney bin together? :lol:  :oops:
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

 

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