Info for the newbies part 2 (Last will-FBIfile)-PLEASE CHECK

[~Souza~]

Please keep in mind that this is a summary. I decided to leave things out, because otherwise we would risk that people think it's too much to read. Mike's message is the most important, this is just to get people think and doubt.

On July 1st we are provided (again by TMZ) with Michael's last will. The first page states the following:

A few things are off already. First of all his middle name states 'Joseph'. Although most people think that Joseph is his middle name, the indictment of the child molestation case in 2003 states something else:

Listen to the verdict on June 13, 2005:

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq0ninSg86s[/youtube:17brztbj]

Then we have two copies of his passports, both stating Michael Joe Jackson:

Legal documents that clearly state Michael Joe Jackson and a judge reading the verdict to Michael Joe Jackson. According to this we may assume his true legal name is Michael Joe Jackson. So why does the will say Joseph?

Another thing is the names of the kids. Although the birth certificates of the complete Jackson family are sealed, TMZ (there they are again) obtained the birth certificates of Michael's children:

Prince

According to the birth certificate, Prince's name is Michael Joseph Jackson JR., yet the will says his name is Prince Michael Jackson, JR.

Paris

According to the birth certificate, Paris' name is Paris-Michael Katherine Jackson, yet the will says his name is Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, without the -.

Blanket

According to the birth certificate, Blanket's name is Prince Michael Jackson, II, yet the will says his name is Prince Michael Joseph Jackson, II.

So what is wrong here? Did Michael Jackson forget how he named his children and did the two executors forgot to check as well? And are the birth certificates real? The name of the father is listed as Michael Joseph Jackson, and we just learned his legal name is Michael Joe Jackson.

Signed July 7, 2002, exactly 7 years before the memorial. The number 7 will pop up a lot of times in this story. According to Randy Jackson, the signature on the will is not Michael's. Conclusion must be that the will is a fake.

You may think now that he would be in major trouble if he faked his death, because these are fake documents. But a fake of a fake is not fraud. You should also know that Michael's life insurance wasn't paid out, it was cashed in. You can cash in a life insurance while you are alive. And last but not least: government parties must be aware of this, since they have to know his legal name and they have to know that the released documents are fake. If he has the FBI on his side, a lot can be done.

The memorial was held at July 7, 2009. Seven years after the will was signed. The first weird thing was the circus:

TMZ reports:
"Like Michael Jackson's memorial couldn't get any crazier -- Ringling Bros. and Barnum and Bailey continued an L.A. tradition this morning by parading their elephants through downtown ... to the Staples Center."

"Phineas Taylor Barnum (July 5, 1810 – April 7, 1891) was an American showman, businessman, and entertainer, remembered for promoting celebrated hoaxes and for founding the circus that became the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus."
Source: Wikipedia.org

Michael is a fan of Barnum. Was it a coincidence that the Barnum circus was there? Maybe, but there are too many coincidences in this story to be a coincidence. With numerology the coincidences can even be debunked, more about that later.

The memorial program:

"A celebration of the LIFE of Michael Jackson"

So let the circus begin! First we have to wait a long time before it begins. As the casket is brought in, the choir begins to sing:

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSTwdbvLVeg&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:17brztbj]

"Soon and very soon, we are going to see the king"

Somewhere halfway through Jennifer Hudson performs "Will you be there".

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_RZekkyx1w&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:17brztbj]

The spoken words in the song are done by Michael himself, yet a small snippet was changed. In the original lyrics and every recording available, the lyrics are: "In my anguish and my pain". Yet in this version it is "In my anguish and my painS". The family might have used a recording we don't know about, yet if that recording is of such low quality, it wouldn't make sense.

Jermaine performs "Smile", but he 'screws up' big time.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXnahc8PazQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:17brztbj]

Instead of "Light up your face with gladness – Hide every trace of sadness" he sings "Light up your face with sadness – Hide every trace of gladness" without blinking.

Kenny Ortega makes a nice slip up as well:

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwtBcyiqkoM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:17brztbj]

"We were here, we were right here a little less than a week ago and Michael was with us."
Michael was 'dead' a little less than a week ago...

There was a total lack of emotions from the family and the kids even looked pretty bored while chewing gum. Even though they were trying, we haven't seen one tear, not even by Paris. And why the dark sunglasses? To hide the tears, or to hide the lack of tears?

On the screen at the end they showed us this picture:

This is a picture of Liberian Girl. For those who don't know the clip: The clip was shot while people were waiting for Michael. At the end he appears, showing that he was directing behind the scenes all along.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sF7HLqS7SY[/youtube:17brztbj]

On July 7 TMZ comes up with the following article:

Pointing out the 7's in Michael's life. Like we told you before, the 7's will pop up quite a few times.

Also leaked on July 7 is the Death Certificate:

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/070 ... sed_wm.pdf

The deceased on this document: Michael Joseph Jackson. Since we learned already that his legal name is Michael Joe Jackson (which means this name has to be mentioned on the Death Certificate as well, besides aliases) we know this is again a fake of a fake.

On July 16 an unreleased song was leaked called "A Place with no name". As of today, there is still no name on the crypt in the Grand Mausoleum where he is supposed to be buried.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me-WRF5XnTY&feature=related[/youtube:17brztbj]

On August 18th we get to see Dr. Murray for the first time. The good ol' doc made a video for his few patients and published it on YouTube.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0PHHx3NQcA[/youtube:17brztbj]

Instead of sending his patients a letter, this doctor decides to hire a camera man to film him in HD so he can inform his patients on YouTube. You can say whatever you want, but this is just plain weird.

On august 25 we have the first "could he still be alive?" report. A video is shown on German television showing (someone that looks like) Michael Jackson jumping out of a coroner's van.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/25/michael-j ... ive-video/

A fake? Probably, but a lot of people searched the internet back then, ending up investigating this and most of them are still here. Mission accomplished.

September 3rd, Michael will finally be buried. Although he is supposedly dead for more than 2 months, LaToya says he looked great in his casket. Same scenario as with the memorial, the guests have to wait for Michael... until it's dark.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A-h8EVzbzs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:17brztbj]

The picture displayed: Liberian Girl...

Say cheese!

Now here is Forest Lawn seen from above:

But if we look at this screenshot, we see more trees and a complete different road.

In this shot we see a lamp reflected in the car which is used in films to create daylight inside a studio:

Yet if we look at the helicopter footage (having helicopter footage is weird by itself, since there was a no-fly zone there that day) we can see the same lamp, floating way too high to be reflected in the car window. Besides that, how is it possible that lamp is even hanging there and on what?

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LoTWVvGl6I&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:17brztbj]

Here is one of the sets in Culver, where Michael (according to reports) wrapped some footage just before he died. You do the math...

During the burial, Larry King had a quite interesting guest, long time Michael Jackson friend Dave Dave:

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw[/youtube:17brztbj]

Here is Dave Dave on Larry King compared to the real Dave.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXq-gwSngfE[/youtube:17brztbj]

Why wouldn't Dave speak up about it now that it has gone all over the internet and even television? Dave works for Michael.

October 11th, the song This is It leaks.

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVRjLPObBs[/youtube:17brztbj]

It's the second time an unreleased song was leaked, while the only ones in possession of the songs are the family and Sony has some in their vault.  Sony wouldn't leak it, because Sony wants to make money. If people can download it before the release, the sales go down. So it must have been leaked by the family.
It is clear that this isn't a recent song (which is later confirmed). It's also not complete, some lyrics are incomplete. This is probably an old demo.

On October 28th the documentary "Michael Jackson's This is It" premieres. The movie is full of MJ doubles, as Joe Jackson already revealed a few weeks before.  Some might disagree, but if you look at this picture below, you must admit that something is off.

The very beginning:

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY&feature=related[/youtube:17brztbj]

"And piece by piece by piece, MJ is revealed until he drops out."

In the new Smooth Criminal clip we can see Rita Hayworth in a scene from "Gilda". The actor who played the character who faked his death was born at the same day and month as Michael.

There are many things in the movie we would like to point out, but if you are completely new to the hoax, it might be hard to understand all at once.

If you didn't wait until after the credits of the movie, you might have missed this:

[youtube:17brztbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvOkgnJhQ4[/youtube:17brztbj]

"Let me breathe in my own time when I come back in. I'm gonna button my shirt, check in on this. I'm gonna look around a bit, play with them, snap my finger and maybe then BAM!"

Besides this, there was no "RIP Michael Jackson", no mention of his death at all.

December 22, 2009. With a one day delay the FBI releases Michael Jackson's file. The 333 page file proves Michael's innocence. Download the FBI file here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog/fbifiles.rar

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

Just spotted one thing, paragraph  above the elephants,

Signed July 7, 2002, exactly 7 years before the burial.
think that word should read "memorial" to make sence cause the burial was 3 September think this must be a typo.

Please feel free to delete this post when correction made.

Do you think a description of the "burial suit" my was supposed to be wearing would be useful addition where La Toya said he looked good in the casket, together with the link to the 35th Grammy awards where he was wearing the same outfit, together with a link to the video where he talks about a "rebirth" for him at the Grammy awards.  That was one of the things way back which hooked me,  why they would go to such great lengths to describe the outfit!

You guys are doing an excellent job.

; :)

[~Souza~]

Just spotted one thing, paragraph  above the elephants,

Signed July 7, 2002, exactly 7 years before the burial.
think that word should read "memorial" to make sence cause the burial was 3 September think this must be a typo.

Please feel free to delete this post when correction made.

Do you think a description of the "burial suit" my was supposed to be wearing would be useful addition where La Toya said he looked good in the casket, together with the link to the 35th Grammy awards where he was wearing the same outfit, together with a link to the video where he talks about a "rebirth" for him at the Grammy awards.  That was one of the things way back which hooked me,  why they would go to such great lengths to describe the outfit!

You guys are doing an excellent job.

; :)

Oh, thanks, indeed a typo. I am going to edit that.

Fact is that I would love to add a lot more, but I am afraid people won't read. This is only to make them beLIEve, they can check the board after that,

[Ijustcantstoplovingu]

Just spotted one thing, paragraph  above the elephants,

Signed July 7, 2002, exactly 7 years before the burial.
think that word should read "memorial" to make sence cause the burial was 3 September think this must be a typo.

Please feel free to delete this post when correction made.

Do you think a description of the "burial suit" my was supposed to be wearing would be useful addition where La Toya said he looked good in the casket, together with the link to the 35th Grammy awards where he was wearing the same outfit, together with a link to the video where he talks about a "rebirth" for him at the Grammy awards.  That was one of the things way back which hooked me,  why they would go to such great lengths to describe the outfit!

You guys are doing an excellent job.

; :)

Oh, thanks, indeed a typo. I am going to edit that.

Fact is that I would love to add a lot more, but I am afraid people won't read. This is only to make them beLIEve, they can check the board after that,

OK thats fine, delete my post now the typo is fixed if you want to limit the length of the threrad. :D

[White_Orchid]

Maybe point out that document exhibits (and Google searches) illustrate markedly different handwriting styles in Michael's signature ....

Good job.
8-)

[~Souza~]

Maybe point out that document exhibits (and Google searches) illustrate markedly different handwriting styles in Michael's signature ....

Good job.
8-)

There are, I know. But that will probably be used in another part.

[jacilovesmichael]

Thanks for posting these Souza. This is EXACTLY what is needed to give to nonbelievers or people who haven't heard about it. You've been busy! Thanks again.

[~Souza~]

More added.

Last part will be the Autopsy report. I will see if there was more that will be understandable for newbies, but I think these 2 parts + the autopsy will make people think enough to read on.

[scorpionchik]

"You should also know that Michael's life insurance wasn't paid out, it was cashed in. You can cash in a life insurance while you are alive".

How do you know for sure whether or not Michael had/has life insurance and it was not paid out? Would be good to have that source. There are many different type of Life insurance policies.Only couple of them have cash back option but policy must meet certain time period to accumulate that cash to get back.

I see for the first time funeral from the helicopter footage. Guys, it is real Glendale Forest Lawn. They put chairs in front of Holly Terrace, along the way. The line of the cars down the road, closely shown part, is the front of the Great Mausoleum.

[mjsgirl89]

I really like what UR doing here for the newbies...i needed a refresh any way :lol:
In the leaked RTL vid part it might be helpful to talk about the "making of" vid with all the differences from the original...IMO...that's one of the things that stuck out to me in the beginning
Much L.O.V.E.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

Also, look at Debbie Rowes middle name is spelled differently on Paris and Prince birth cert!!

[*Mo*]

"You should also know that Michael's life insurance wasn't paid out, it was cashed in. You can cash in a life insurance while you are alive".

How do you know for sure whether or not Michael had/has life insurance and it was not paid out? Would be good to have that source. There are many different type of Life insurance policies.Only couple of them have cash back option but policy must meet certain time period to accumulate that cash to get back.

Harvey confirmed that Mike's life insurance was cashed in months ago during a Live Stream.

[THE JACKSONOLOGIST]

"You should also know that Michael's life insurance wasn't paid out, it was cashed in. You can cash in a life insurance while you are alive".

How do you know for sure whether or not Michael had/has life insurance and it was not paid out? Would be good to have that source. There are many different type of Life insurance policies.Only couple of them have cash back option but policy must meet certain time period to accumulate that cash to get back.

Harvey confirmed that Mike's life insurance was cashed in months ago during a Live Stream.

Didnt Thome Thome have $5 million he said he was holding for MJ that he "gave back"?

[michaelsupporter]

"You should also know that Michael's life insurance wasn't paid out, it was cashed in. You can cash in a life insurance while you are alive".

How do you know for sure whether or not Michael had/has life insurance and it was not paid out? Would be good to have that source. There are many different type of Life insurance policies.Only couple of them have cash back option but policy must meet certain time period to accumulate that cash to get back.

Harvey confirmed that Mike's life insurance was cashed in months ago during a Live Stream.

Didnt Thome Thome have $5 million he said he was holding for MJ that he "gave back"?

Yes, as I recall, Thome Thome returned $5 million he claims was to be used for the house in Las Vegas that MJ was looking to purchase.

Also, speaking of a life insurance policy..........and correct me if I am wrong.....but one can cash out a whole life policy at any time (one need not be dead to do so).

[MJonmind]

So well put together. Amazing! This and more will be material for a best-seller in the future I'm sure.