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« on: September 20, 2010, 04:42:10 PM »
I hink this is the best video I have seen after 25. I keep it watching every day.
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« on: September 20, 2010, 03:47:41 AM »
I must say that I feel uncomfortable and embarrassed on behalf of all of us about the events surrounding the person with the nick callofthewild.  :oops: I did not notice any time that this person was rude or disrespectful. Instead, she was educated, sensitive and readily answered all questions. Your comments (before all the questions) were in defense of Michael, about the rumors of an anonymous post on TMZ (like many of us who defend MJ, too). In his answers to our questions she was just assertive / firm in their beliefs, without calling attention to themselves, or to boast of his alleged friendship with MJ. Well, now I have this thought: "If we can not trust anonymous people behind a computer, within the larger global network, how can we believe in TS, for example?" As for the person behind the nick callofthewild could be a member of the Jackson family, perhaps? Anything is possible, never imagining it could be. :roll: :?: So I think we should be very careful in how to treat people, even "anonymous" because they may simply be trying to help but we simply dispense! I can also understand that people have the right to refuse to open your identity on the global network, we do not know the risks they may face. Please do not attack me for this, I am human, have feelings. 
In contrary to the posts by callofthewild, TS' posts are well argumented and the evidence TS hands out is backing up his statements. callofthewild simply writes a statement, doesn't back it up, selectively replies to posts by ignoring very good arguments, and just wants people to take for granted what he claims.
SOuza,to me TS posts are not so well argumented.His arguments don't convince me at all. SO....to me TS is not more legit that anyother. Can I be blamed for that?
When callofthewild is addressed about the lack of argumentation in his posts he takes the easy way out and says goodbye, but not without leaving the following comment:
In short, be careful who you speak to, and mindful of how you speak to them. You never know who's on the other end of the connection. That comment speaks volumes, another typical case of trying to play people's feelings and we have seen comments like that and ones like this:
To those of you who've sent me such kind and warm messages, thank you. many times as well. Countless times have we seen comments like these, followed by members posts begging the poster to stay. Again - it speaks volumes.
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« on: September 19, 2010, 04:12:24 PM »
@callofthewild
I am not going to discuss whether you did or didn't know Mike personally because since you yourself are posting anonymously yourself, there is no way to verify. But even if you know him, that doesn't mean all you say is truth.
As I've said, and will continue to say, believe what you want.
You can get pissed at me saying he had multiple personalities, but you need to explain to me why. Is it such a disgrace? Dissociative Identity Disorder is mostly caused by severe mental, physical and/or sexual abuse and I think he suffered them all, not just the beatings. It's not something people can control themselves, certainly not when they are that little. Mike has many sides and they differ a lot, from a shy little boy to a take-no-prisoners showman, a daddy but also a loving mommy to a professional and intelligent business man.
Was he multi faceted? Yes. He was, and very much so. Multiple personalities? Not at all.
I am also amazed that you knew him so well as you say yourself, yet you think he passed away on June 25, 2009. It's my strong belief he planned this for 21 years so I would think that someone who knew him for 35 years, must have seen him change around 1988 and know his name is Michael Joe Jackson, instead of Michael Joseph Jackson. I am not saying you don't know him personally, I am merely pointing out that probably even people around him don't know the real story. I think Mike is one of the most gifted and talented actors in the world. Like he said himself: "I can fool my own mother."
1. Your believing it (that he had it planned for 21 plus years) doesn’t make it so.
2. People change over the course of their lives, and it’s true. Mike changed physically due to several physiological factors.
3. His legal name at birth was Michael Joseph Jackson. You can dispute that all you’d like, and theorize it away until the cows come home, but the fact remains his name is Michael Joseph. His own mother called him Michael Joseph. I doubt she’d get his name wrong.
4. Mike died in June of 2009. His soul left his body, and the same is now interred at Forest Lawn Cemetery.
5. He may have been able to fool her, but he’d never hurt her. Never. And this is one woman who’s gone through agonizing grief over the past year.
As for the vitiligo. I don't think anyone on this forum said he didn't want to be black. It's in the comment that was posted by chappie from someone we don't even believe 100%, we are just discussing the comment. It is my belief that someone poisoned him to turn him white, or colorless like you call it and I think it might not be vitiligo. And of course he had to name it, he couldn't just plain out say someone poisoned him and turned him white, most definitely not if he feared for his life. There are many chemicals that can cause destruction of pigmentation. This is the time where all the shit comes out and I have the feeling that even some of his friends will be shocked at the outcome. That is why I don't take anyone's word for truth, not even if they knew him for that long.
I never, ever once said anyone on this forum thought he didn’t want to be black. Therein lies the problem. No one reads for comprehension’s sake anymore. I was responding to the article or whatever it was from TMZ that was posted.
And, for the love of God, no one was poisoning Mike as far back as 1988 or abouts.
If you really know that all the 'far fetched' stuff on this site is untrue and hurtful, why don't you call Katherine and let her take this down? It's easy for them since we use Mike's name in the domain. The family knows about this site and no one ever contacted us or asked us to take stuff down.
So, because I don’t necessarily believe in most of the stuff that is posted here (theories, etc.) I am now charged with petitioning his family to have it removed? If that is an incentive to challenge me, it won’t work. I couldn’t care less what you, or anyone else believes with regards to his death.
If you seriously believe the family sits around and ponders on a regular basis the stuff shared on this site, and considering the vast amount of misinformation perpetrated ‘in Mike’s name’ that their sole focus and energies would be spent to remove this one site, then you really don’t give them enough credit as the busy bunch they are.
And as ridiculous as you might think the numerology is, Mike was clearly interested in it. He also was very aware of the NWO so I really advise you to read TS' posts. If you really know the true story you should be able to debunk TS. Looking forward to it, you can start reading here: You are not allowed to view links.
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As I’ve said, I don’t know anything about TS, but I do believe you’re reading more into something that will ultimately turn out to be nothing. Just what are you asking me to do? Say the person is a liar? Or a kook? From what I’ve gleaned so far, I prefer the latter.
As for numerology, the NOW, and other things, Mike was interested in a multitude of ideas, concepts, subjects, etc., and his interests changed periodically. Being interested in something doesn’t mean he built a hoax around it.
Finally, I don’t understand your sudden public hostility and defensive posture when you and I have had amicable conversations privately.
I like the way you express your point of view callofthewild...I don't even need to know who you are, to be honest. your words are gentle,and you show respect to people here. Souza,I hope you don't get angry for what I am going to say,but I agree with callofwild at point 1. your believing it (that he planned for 21 years) doesn't make it so. It is a theory,it is your theory,and maybe other members here, but keep it as an option in the hoax .you CAN't be sure. People such as me,who don't believe he has planned a hoax for 21 years,or that the illuminati is involved in this,or that documents are not legit when they are signed by Michael joseph jackson, can stay in this site,and read,and still wonder if it is a hoax or not. COncerning the family attitude,I also think that if Michael has really passed, our site is their last problem to face. So,even if I am still looking for answers,and truth after 25 june, I CAN't confuse reality with interpretation of facts. There are facts,but still too many options for giving a meaning to them. that's why this is a theory,and not reality. Sorry for my bad english...moreover here in italy is late...and I am quite sleepy... love
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« on: September 01, 2010, 04:03:17 AM »
...this kind of news don't fit exactly with the hoax..If Michael is alive,I don't think he would allow them to attend public school...but I say,I DON'T THINK...
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« on: August 24, 2010, 03:37:48 PM »
..THICK SKIN...can it be referred to a prosthaetic make -up? A disguise? .mmhh...I am going too far...sorry
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« on: July 20, 2010, 05:03:51 PM »
I remember Michael saying in an interview that he contibuted in staging those stories... I think Michael agreed with that. Don't forget Michael is an entertainer,and he liked to play jokes... I think it was for fun,and for fooling the media..
Dileo is not a bad man,IMO
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« on: July 17, 2010, 11:00:48 AM »
That guy was great; very entertaining! I especially liked the part where he put his head in his hands, like he still cannot believe that's all he could think of doing. 
But where is the footage of that tumble supposedly caught on tape? :cry: That is Michael for many people in this site...me included. So,pleeeaaase..respect...
or...you referred to an other guy in the video?If I misunderstood..please sorry..
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« on: July 17, 2010, 10:59:59 AM »
That guy was great; very entertaining! I especially liked the part where he put his head in his hands, like he still cannot believe that's all he could think of doing.
But where is the footage of that tumble supposedly caught on tape? :cry: That is Michael for many people in this site...me included. So,pleeeaaase..respect...
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« on: July 17, 2010, 09:49:09 AM »
Nice to watch!
Thanks for posting!
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« on: July 16, 2010, 04:39:12 PM »
..Sorry..but comparing the 2 pictures that is Michael room. The only question is: who has given this photo to the press? Was it staged inside the house?
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« on: July 14, 2010, 06:51:06 AM »
..I am a fashion designer..and I can tell you that presentation looks very not professional. Can someone please enlarge the notes written at the right down corner?
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« on: July 07, 2010, 03:00:03 PM »
many a cappella versions are just extracts from the original CD song,just without sound.
I prefer when Michael sings during interviews..that is more natural.
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« on: July 07, 2010, 02:57:30 PM »
isn't today that TS had to send last link before BAM?
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« on: July 05, 2010, 04:04:58 PM »
I honestly don't find any logical reason for which Michael would have let Orianthi sing WATW during the TII concert... moreover,we know it was the solo guitar the moment she had to "shine"!! so..maybe it was really the rehearsal for the memorial?
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« on: July 05, 2010, 03:59:45 PM »
I can tell you for sure the roof is a special room in ENcino ,under the roof, where Michael kept all pictures,memories,was statues of him..it was a resting place for him,an inspiring place.It was great!
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