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Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
What makes me angry is that she is missing the point and trying to take the fans for fools.

it is clear that she is trying to make a profit here....  if she was a true friend of MJ she would not be yapping on facebook...  and instead of asking the fans to pay $40 for a trinket her friend makes, she should be saying "donate that $40 to a charity instead".

That was MJs message.

She is missing it.  If i can understand MJs message when i have never met the man, why cant she?

I agree! She is taking the fans for fools and if they're willing to give her $40 for a stupid bracelet that's not worth $40, then their exactly what Karen thinks they are! :roll:  Karen was NOT a true friend of MJ, if she was, she wouldn't be doing the things that she's been doing! A true friend doesn't talk about someone behind their back, they keep stories secret. She refuses to tell people what Turkle means and why Michael gave her the nickname saying it's private and between her and Michael, but she tells stories that happened during the time she worked for Michael on her FB, that could be embarrasing for MJ? What's wrong with her? I guess she doesn't know the meaning of friend! :roll:

She is missing Michael's message big time, either that she doesn't care what his message is. I too have never met the man bit I understand it! She worked for him for years and she can't?

It's becoming mor and more clear that Michael didn't have a lot of true friends. He had a lot of people who wanted to be his friend because of his name and money. They just want to leech on him. Some members of his family's like that! You should  at lest be able to trust your family!

I feel so bad for Michael.  :( I hope if he is alive, he's using this time to reevaluate who his true friends are aren't. And if he isn't alive, i hope he sees what people aon earth are doing to his fans! :twisted:

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Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I am soo angry right now i could kick someones ass.

All her little devotees on facebook are all supporting her.. are they blind?   This is not a nice thing... this is fleecing money of grieving fans.  

Uurgh..  she needs to stop.

Her behaviour is hurting Michael and that hurts me.  She is disgraceful.


I agree! I don't understand where Karen's mind is? :?  I can't believe that she's trying to make money off of Michael name and his "death" when she swore that she would not make money off of MJ's name or "death". I think her followers are blind. They all seem to happy to talk to and get to know someone who was close to Michael Jackson(when she probably wasn't as close as she thought :roll: ) to see what she's doing. They actually defend her on her FB account! :shock:  It's really sad that those people can't see what this woman is doing and what type of person she is!! I feel sorry for those people that follower her, hopefully someday they will see the light!

I agree that her behavior is hurting Michael and hurts his fans that see what she's doing. She is disgraceful and needs to stop NOW!  :twisted:  :evil:  :x  :twisted:

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Dave Dave / Re: DAVE DAVE wants your money!!! Hmmm Really
« on: January 03, 2010, 11:29:52 AM »
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Dave Dave used to work for MJJ productions im sure he is not short a few quid!!
But anyway here in UK you cannot get evicted for being a paraplegic because the government/disability/housing support pay your rent... I know the USA sux for healthcare but surely they wont put a paraplegic out on the streets!!!!! There must be some government related organisation that deals with things like this.....(Someone from USA best answer that)
I don't know for sure if they would evict a paraplegic if their house went into forclosure. I live in the USA but I'm not familiar with the rules and regulations when it comes to forclosure. If Dave's friend isn't paying his mortgage/utitlties, etc, he might be able to recieve help by the goverment to make the payments easier to make. There might be organizations that would help a disabled person who's unable to work with their bills, etc.

Sorry that I couldn't be much help. Hopefully someone who knows more will be able to answer your question better then I did.

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Dave Dave / Re: DAVE DAVE wants your money!!! Hmmm Really
« on: January 03, 2010, 09:58:22 AM »
Quote from: "bad_girl"
This is an urgent and a very important message to all of my wonderful fans.

My cousin Jonathon is having some extreme difficulties due to a condition called paraplegia.

He is in fear of being evicted from his house and I am very worried.

He has no way to make a living and i fear that he may be out on the streets of Staten Island in a week.

I have to ask each and every one of you to donate $5 into his paypal account, which is linked to his e-mail, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login.

Help make Jonathon's 2010 a warm and bright one.

I appreciate your loyalty.

Yours truly,

Dave Dave

this is the message for those who can't access the link!!!!

 :o Wow, if that was written by Dave and someone didn't hack into his account and write it, that's disturbing! :shock: Who is Dave to ask people to donate money? He isn't famous, maybe he thinks he is, but he isn't. How do people know where their moneys actually going? Something is very fishy here... :?

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Other Odd Things / Re: Did you know that there's an opus for Prince
« on: January 02, 2010, 09:08:34 PM »
Quote from: "grayshki"
They approached MJ for the Opus in late Spring and when he was shown what the opus was all about, he got very excited and started working with them on certain ideas.
An Opus is not for the "dead", it's for artists, athletes or anyone (usually in the arts) who has made a positive impact in their profession.
The Prince one if I remember correctly is a couple of thousand dollars.

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They don't put a opus out for someone who's dead? Interesting. I guess they did it for MJ because he "died" after they started working on it with him. :?

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Other Odd Things / Re: Did you know that there's an opus for Prince
« on: January 02, 2010, 09:07:12 PM »
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
yeah, sure he did
Their correct. Michael did start working on it before he "died". You don't believe them? Google it! No need for sarcasm . :!:  :|

thank you lol i didnt wanna reply to that at first because i was avoiding arguments hehe but now that a 2nd person confirmed it i feel better knowing i am not just imagining things :)
You're welcome! ;)  :D  :) You're not imagining things  ;)

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Other Odd Things / Re: Did you know that there's an opus for Prince
« on: January 02, 2010, 08:53:52 PM »
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
Michael started working on one before his sudden "death"

yeah, sure he did
Their correct. Michael did start working on it before he "died". You don't believe them? Google it! No need for sarcasm . :!:  :|

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Karen Faye / Re: Karen Faye
« on: January 02, 2010, 05:48:03 PM »
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Sheryl Crow may have had a point....    :lol:
What tour was that picture taken? I can't find it on MJJPictures.com. I want to see more of that outfit, he looks great in it!! :D

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Other Odd Things / Re: Mj death hoax article from 1994
« on: January 02, 2010, 05:43:43 PM »
The print on the paper on the above link is too small for me to read. Can someone please post it in bigger print so I can read it? Thanks!

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Other Odd Things / Re: My view on all the "clues"
« on: January 02, 2010, 03:16:26 PM »
I agree with both of your posts gone too soon. No one knows if Michael's alive or ead, or if he's going to come back or not. If he is alive no one can make any decisions if he's going to come back or stay in hiding, only Michael can. Whatever he decides is fine with me. I would love to see him and hear his voice again though. Whatever is meant to be will be.

I defiantly think people involved with Michael, maybe even Michael himself, are keeping a close watch on the hoax forums online. It seems every time we get close to the truth, someone tries to get us off the track we're on(MJHD crashing/closing), only for us to get back on later. I feel that the truth will come out eventually. I don't think people will be able to keep us from knowing the truth forever, we need to know what happened to have closure. I'm confident that if we keep investigating we will find out the truth, at lest I hope we will.

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Other Odd Things / Re: WHO'S THIS JCC?
« on: January 02, 2010, 01:29:36 PM »
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do believe that JCC is Bling PP and yes, he HAS claimed to be Michael.. I saw an email that he wrote to one of my friends telling her that he is in a certain part of the world.. He has not seen his kids but has talked to them on the phone.. Prince and Paris know he's alive and Blanket does not, but he talked to Blanket pretending to be a customer service representative so he would not give himself away. He also told her that he doesn't talk to anyone other than Kenny Ortega. This guy (he is a he!) really is a joke! He is not Michael at all! He tries waaaay too hard!! He over uses words and phrases that Michael used.. Also, He uses with love L.O.V.E. too much!! If you notice in the movie, MJ does say that but only after getting upset about something.. He was letting them know his criticism was with love and caring and not anything meant to be harsh. Otherwise Mj didn't use those words. Also, he never used those words till after the trailer came out.

He is not MJ.. JCC is not MJ this I KNOW! Also, MJ is notorious for misspelling simple words.. This guy has perfect grammar ALL the time!! Not MJ!

I agree with everything you said! ;)  I'm pretty sure I know who's behind JCC. This person went into a chat room that I was in telling people that he/she is Michael. It started out good but got worse over time. They communicated with the admin of the chat room and as time went by they got very close with her, as if they were are close friend in real life.The admin told me that this person gave her confidential information, where they're located, why he did the hoax, insisting that he's coming back, etc.  It got to the point that they were cursing, telling people in the chat room that they were drinking rum and drunk, making fun of people who didn't believe them with others in the chat room,etc  This person was in the chat room almost everyday for hours at a time and didn't act like one would think MJ would act.

Please don't believe any clues or anything this person has posted or told anyone! They're playing games and a very sick game!! I know for sure that this person is NOT MJ, they wish they were, but their not!  :roll:

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Other Odd Things / Re: WHO'S THIS JCC?
« on: January 02, 2010, 01:17:25 PM »
Quote from: "Secret Dove"
JCC is a FAKE! I've had dealings with this person. :roll:  They claim to be Michael and they give out "clues" that don't mean anything.  I believe it's either a girl or her friend that's behind JCC. JCC also goes under the name BlingPP, HiddenTreasure, Superbot & who knows what else.  :roll:

I'm not trying to be not nice, I want people who believe this person to know that they're fake. It's all a game and a sick one!! This person and others who pretend to be Michael, when their not, need professional help!  :!:  :!:  :!:  :roll:
Read my post above if you haven't already read it. I've had dealings with this person for months and they're NOT Michael! Be careful to believe this person, they're just playing mind games! :|

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Quote from: "the_gloved_one"
I found this picture of other crypts at forest lawn and seems like the gates are a common feature :|
What happened to his crypt being at the end of a long hall way? I don't see a crypt at the end of the hall in the picture above! :?

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Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Here it says picture added by anonymous:  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Where is that barrier thing in the other photos??   :?
I wonder the same thing!! If you look at the other pictures, there's something different in the current picture. The background looks different, the windows are smaller/don't godown the wall, it looks like the walls are wood and there's a barrier in front of the crypt. I don't know what to think... :?

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Quote from: "andrea_garay2005"
I just found this picture made after Christmas.......

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That place very different from the other pictures that Karen took and sold to TMZ. I don't remember seeing a barrier in the last pictures that were posted online. :?  I wonder if this is FL or another place?  :?:  :?

 I agree that the picture does look planned and someone is trying really hard to convince us that MJ is dead. They can try as hard as they want, but nothing will convince us!! :lol:  ;)  :P I also think that someone's watching this forum and other hoax forums. It'll be interesting what they come up with next!  :lol:

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