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I don't think we misunderstood Jermaine because had made similar comments not once in the past. He had been jealous of Michael always. He is one in general. He also was jealous of his little brother marrying his ex wife.

There are no problems among Jackson family, Michael likes controversy and his family follow his instructions, in return they are earning a lot of money cause they are under the spotlight.

guess there is always the possibility you are correct. i wonder though if that wouldn't make them either remarkably good or remarkably evil. just sayin"

Interesting perspective: "remarkably good [actors?] or remarkably evil [do you mean for the love of money?]"

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......after 7 months, something "new",with black shoes and black socks,bobbing from side to side  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_lol: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:...... finally  :thjajaja121: :thjajaja121:!!!! :

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Okay, I have to agree, the second two vids are hilarious :thjajaja121: --amazing that Mike agreed to do it!! :icon_e_surprised:  Shows more of his sense of humor. :icon_lol:

(BTW, I think that "<3" on the url of the third video prevents it from opening [at least for me]; I had to open it within a link on the Vimeo page of the second video. Maybe the following link will work to open the third video directly:
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All these TMZ articles about Jackson family are just baloney, MJ uses them to refill the time he needs for whatever behind the scenes.

Sweet, I have to ask you this again: how do you know for sure Michael is still alive and that all this 'balony' is used by him to prolong the hoax because of whatever is happening behind the scenes?? Is it because of frontback on twitter or something you experienced during your visit in the USA? I would hate to see you get hurt again...

Good question. If there is a hoax, it seems likely that TMZ is in on it, which of course has been discussed in-depth on the forum (e.g., the way TMZ reported the “death” on 6/25/09 hours before any official announcement was made and before any major media outlet, and plus there are the things Harvey Levine [head of TMZ, for those unfamiliar] has said on-camera in the past years [e.g., the “if Michael were dead” comment, and so on]). However, outside of possibly being part of or in on a MJ hoax, TMZ is basically a tabloid, in the business of fabricating celebrity news for the purpose of $elling sensational gossip and potential slander to interested readers. Recent stories about the Jacksons and/or Debbie Rowe versus the Jacksons seem more like tabloid news as opposed to hoax news.Thoughts?

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I tend to agree with what Tito says in the video above (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login), that “it’s gettin’ to be a little twisted :icon_twisted: from his [Jermaine’s] meaning.”                           

Also notice in the video above what Tito—i.e., not just “a source” this time but Tito himself—said about Debbie Rowe allegedly seeking guardianship: “you know, that whole thing, I’m not familiar with it at all. . . . I don’t know anything about it.” That said, as mentioned last week in a thread now long forgotten (
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In the article above, “Jackson Brothers - Debbie Rowe Already Abandoned Her Kids Once,” it states “Tito, Randy, Jermaine, and Jackie tell us, '[The children] are well loved and well taken care of. We are quite taken back [sic] that Ms. Rowe has decided now to enter their lives, after she abandoned her children many years ago for money.'" All of them spoke to TMZ about this? If memory serves me, this and other statements in the article may have been general statements made by one or two of the brothers years ago, in the months following 6/25/09 (when Debbie was first connecting with the children) (?), not statements recently given to TMZ regarding current stories.

All the recent stories TMZ has posted about the Jacksons and/or the Jacksons versus Debbie Rowe seem “twisted” upon closer inspection. TMZ is doing a good job: :ghsdf:

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so i think if this were a case of divorce the two older children would be at an age where they can decide for themselves wouldn't they? has anyone seen if she has addressed this on her pages?

Good question.             

This article is similar to the previous article—“Debbie Rowe Wants Michael Jackson's Kids Back -- Going To Court for Custody.” Who are the sources revealing to TMZ Debbie Rowe’s feelings and opinions concerning her alleged desire to seek custody of the children? And has TMZ yet mentioned access to some form of legal documentation (i.e., facts) regarding the claim that Debbie wishes to seek custody as opposed to only stating “Rowe will file legal docs”?                         

In the article above, “Jackson Brothers - Debbie Rowe Already Abandoned Her Kids Once,” it states “Tito, Randy, Jermaine, and Jackie tell us, "[The children] are well loved and well taken care of. We are quite taken back [sic] that Ms. Rowe has decided now to enter their lives, after she abandoned her children many years ago for money." All of them spoke to TMZ about this? If memory serves me, this and other statements in the article may have been general statements made by one or two of the brothers years ago, in the months following 6/25/09 (when Debbie was first connecting with the children) (?), not statements recently given to TMZ regarding current stories.                   

The following is an interesting observation posted by To be or not to be
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2009-14 Jul -Debbie Rowe 'drops custody fight for Michael Jackson's children'
2012- 11 august- Debbie Rowe Might Get Custody of Michael Jackson Kids
2013-October 5 - Debbie Rowe Considering Custody Bid for Daughter Paris (Exclusive)

Old news is "NEW" again  :LolLolLolLol: .
                                     


In short, these articles make for good gossip, conversation, and tabloid news, but do they actually contain any facts? That’s what we, the reading public, still don’t know at this point.                             

Please provide more info if there’s something I’ve overlooked.

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"Sources familiar with the situation tell TMZ." Who are the sources?


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Hoax Pictures / Re: The mystery of MJ's height
« on: April 09, 2014, 04:55:04 PM »
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MJ's true height has always seemed a mystery.  I don't think there are 2 (or more) MJ's, just the one.  Doubles used for distractions, yes, but only one actual MJ.  The height thing could be as simple as lifts in shoes, as suggested before.  Not only lifts in MJ's shoes but also others, like KO or TP or whoever else.  Wear them one day, not another - differences in height.  Might be a simple explanation but why over-complicate it?

Agree.

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i'm on firefox. I admit i never tested on other.
when i type a message it's like i'm typing too fast or like i get frozen. I must wait few seconds to be able to type again.

i got used to it but i must say i type "very" fast and sometime i feel "frustrated"  :icon_mrgreen:

Ditto. Have experienced the problem for quite some time as well. Use both Firefox and IE.

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The Double Theory / Re: 2 MJ's
« on: November 29, 2013, 11:33:42 AM »
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Interesting thoughts, Itsher, but I don't believe them for a second! ! !
You cannot erase a person's record for so long and making him play the double of his brother, it's simply not possible. What about the neighbors??? Didn't they know the Jacksons before they became famous??? How come they never said a word about the second MJ??? Now let's come to another question: Who is the father of Paris, Prince and Blanket??? Is it MJ or his twin brother??? Or may be both of them?? Could this be possible?? No way and I will never believe for a second that MJ has a twin brother.
Photos are not a proof of anything. They can be edited. MJ could manipulate the whole world with edited photos to make everyone think that there are 2 MJ's. It's true that his photos don't look the same. It's the man we never knew, it's the man we don't really know how he looks like! It's another hiding in plain sight, through edited photos.  I think the real MJ is the one who performs live on stage. That's how he really looks like. Now can anyone tell me how MJ really looks like? Do we really know?? The question is: no, we don't and I guess he wants to keep it that why, but I cannot figure out why!

Hi, Diggyon.  :)

What you state is exactly Its her's point, I think. Just stating things in an over-the-top fashion as a way of highlighting questions like the ones you posed. (Of course, correct me if I’m wrong, Its her.)

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The Double Theory / Re: 2 MJ's
« on: November 29, 2013, 10:25:22 AM »
@Its her :icon_lol: (Thanks!)

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As often stated on the forum, there are signs that MJ could have been planning this hoax for years, for entertainment purposes. MJ is one of the most famous persons on the planet; thus whether or not the general public agrees with MJ, or whether or not they are even fans, people pay attention to what MJ directly says and does. Michael is a force for good, and if he consequently used his fame as a platform to expose the NWO agenda, that obviously wouldn’t please TPTB. And so if this is the case, one way or another, MJ had to be stopped, which brings us to an additional explanation. In short, we now possibly have a hoax with entertainment aspects (e.g., clues that MJ is alive, ARG characteristics, courtroom antics, and so on) mixed with serious issues (e.g., past statements and songs MJ has made referencing Illuminati influence, numerology that is characteristic of Illuminati tactics [and we’re thus left wondering which activities are/have been orchestrated by MJ versus TPTB], and people suddenly coming out of the woodwork with new accusations and insinuations about MJ and pedophilia [attempting to discredit MJ in the event of a BAM?]). And the media, knowingly or unknowingly, is the most powerful tool of manipulation used by TPTB, and MJ could very well be in the process of exposing that.

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Seems to me Michael is practically BEGGING people to wake up and smell the bullshit!

Had the EXACT same thought when I was watching. BEGGING for ppl to see it. People still don't see it even though it is practically being spelled out to them.
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So expect the Ludacris stories to continue and expect them to get worse.

I'm sorry, but that's how you guys think people will notice 'the bullshit' being fed by the media? By planting crazy stories (or let someone else plant those crap stories for you) and expect people to believe those stories are bullshit? I don't know if it works that way. Sure, people who are really involved with 'the hoax' or read ALL the 'news' on gossip sites like TMZ might notice. But the majority of the world don't read these sites and it's not on the major news stations in other countries either. Those people won't notice the ever culminating crazy stuff. And, btw, IF they catch SOME of these articles, it will be only a confirmation about what they thought about Michael already. Those story's don't need to get worse to make the majority believe. The majority just simply don't care because they don't have the feelings for Michael we have. This is not the way to get attention and to make people see. If you want to make people see that they are being lied to, then you have to reveal real information like Edward Snowden did. That's something serious and the world certainly pays attention to THAT. NOT to those derogatory crap stories. So no, I don't believe Michael is begging people to see. I believe it's out of his hands.

Agree with you, Do. Actually reminds me of the once-upon-a-time rumors of Michael supposedly intending to allow his 02 concerts to be a platform for warning the world about NWO efforts. Certainly provides motive for attempts on MJ’s life, consequent motive for MJ to hoax his death, and strong motive for the TPTB to now attempt to use CM to discredit MJ in the event of a BAM. Conspiracy on a grand level indeed. Hope it’s nothing of that nature, though.                   

(@Australian MJ BeLIEver, you could be right as well. As always, until we’re provided with irrefutable evidence, it really is anybody’s best guess.)

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: 7.30 SUNDAY | The man who killed Michael Jackson
« on: November 26, 2013, 07:10:31 AM »
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In the video Blankie posted, I was so surprised when the interviewer asked Murray whether Michael was a pedophile. On one hand she used the "Court's Verdict" as the ultimate proof for anyone's innocence/guilt and on the other hand she asked about the pedophile issue when in 2005 it was PROVEN by the court that MJ IS innocent.

If she couldn't believe Murray's explanation regarding his innocence, why couldn't she believe in Michael's innocence as the court already proved it.


She shouldn't have asked that question in the first place.
Thinking about it that way, the interviewer’s rationalization is a bit twisted.  :icon_twisted:     
                       

Regarding Murray’s comments about Michael’s severing of familial ties and strange response to the pedophile question, or lack thereof . . . his demeanor and vibes in general (seemed odd at times and not from acting), who knows, maybe Murray was a victim of mind control/programming these past couple years in anticipation of this moment. Sounds far-fetched, but for someone (maybe), the stakes are high. Here again, just speculating.  :ghsdf:


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This Is It / Re: A Screencap From 'This Is It'
« on: November 11, 2013, 06:52:17 AM »
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Are you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot -  you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the  internet... Something's strange here 0.o
Good point. Seems there's only formal/informal recordings of the actual broadcast. Something to think about.

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I just have to get back to that Corey Feldman video Applehead posted.  Check out this insightful and frame by frame analysis of the esoteric meaning behind it.  This particular line really got me.  Referring to the Archangel Michael, whose descent from heaven heralds the end times, he notes that 'He leads a great deception upon the world.    ;D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odoVmvyXTc4[/youtube]

*Modified the post to include a working Youtube link. Gwynned, hope I inserted the right smiley (yours got lost while I was working on this ;) ) // MaryK

Interesting analysis of Corey’s video. Thanks for posting, Gwynned. The following presents an opposite interpretation from the one above. :ghsdf:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jneOci0fkTE[/youtube]

Comparing these different viewpoints and reading the YouTube comments on both (the videos above) is interesting as well, particularly regarding MJ and keeping the hoax in mind.

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