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It seems like having a publicist (Angel Howansky) step in and formally state the twitter account/"twit" was compromised makes more out of a single tweet than necessary if there’s no validity to it--i.e., seems a simple, brief clarification twit by Mr. Jackson would have sufficed. jmo. And anyway, under the circumstances, wonder just what is meant by “compromised” and "fixed" :animal0017: .

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After all the highly imaginative theories, such as this one, we've heard, I often think if the real truth of what happened is ever revealed, it'll seem incredibly simple and straightforward in comparison, like all the best magic tricks.
Agree. 

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Okay, the only part I could agree with is the deal thing, as I stated that before in another thread. MJ might have made a deal with those who wanted him dead. To the world he was dead already and they could have killed him for real if they wanted to. May be this is why a deal was made and they let him live if he doesn't expose them.That's why I don't think he will come back. I wish someone could debunk this theory though because I don't want to see him defeated in this battle :(  It's heartbreaking to see all the plans made to expose TPTB go with the wind. But i can never blame him. He has to stay safe. No one wants him to be killed or his family harmed in any way. He has proved to the whole world that he is a very brave man. No one else tried to expose the evil guys the way he did and those who just mentioned exposing them ended up dead. It's sad to see him vanish this way from our world. But I'm so glad he is still alive. The good thing is, he can lead a normal life now!!!

God bless you Micheal and keep you and your family safe. Amen

Okay, diggyon, I'll give a shot at a debunk  :icon_bounce: . . . by asking a couple of questions. Why would the unknown they (or TPTB), if they wanted MJ dead, be so kind as to let him live? In other words, if they were in a position to have "killed him for real if they wanted to," there thus would have been no need for a deal, so why take one?

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TMZ Articles / Re: NEW CHILD MOLESTATION CLAIM By Wade Robson
« on: March 04, 2015, 05:46:38 AM »
Thanks, Curls.

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TMZ Articles / Re: NEW CHILD MOLESTATION CLAIM By Wade Robson
« on: March 02, 2015, 08:06:34 AM »
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.... I have toyed with the idea that the latest allegations are designed to keep Michael in his place of being 'dead' as well. His career has been reinvented since he 'died' and the estate has made mega bucks. I think that there would be many who would like this gravy train to continue without him reappearing. So throw some more fabricated bullshit out there and give him the option of stay gone, where they can't reach you and let us deal with this, or go back and face a repeat of 2005 with the added surprise element of having faked your death thrown in there for added effect. 
I think he has chosen option 1. He is a father who has the well being of his children to take into account.

This could be the sad and terrible truth ... that MJ is still not 'free' and in control. I posted a similar idea a few days ago and asked the question of whether legally he'd be in sticky waters if he later resurfaced, having stayed dead knowing there were these allegations being made against him. Has he missed the window of opportunity to come back and face this head on and is now forced to stay dead?

But, RK, who are you suggesting threw the 'fabricated bullshit'?

Horrible if the whole hoax idea that was meant to be such an adventure for all concerned, has monumentally backfired in such an ugly way.


I’ve thought about this a lot as well, Curls and RK—wondered if these new allegations are being presented, as well as consequent suggestion of guilt regarding old allegations being maintained, in an effort to paint MJ as an unreliable source regarding something more sinister if and when he ever does choose to come back, i.e., like a just in case . . . let’s keep the fabrications rolling as a monumental distraction (and destroyer of credibility) from anything significant he might want to reveal. IDK  :icon_e_confused:                       

But yes, it seems the bottom line question regards the who and why. I’ve never been one to believe the hoax was primarily conducted as an adventure but have rather always seen the “adventure” part as a side activity. However, I thought I read somewhere that a person has seven years from the alleged date of death to return without suffering legal loss/repercussion (?).

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TMZ Articles / Re: NEW CHILD MOLESTATION CLAIM By Wade Robson
« on: February 27, 2015, 02:40:35 PM »
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What I also wonder about is why we easily want to accept La Toya's explanation that she lied back then about her allegations because she was manipulated into it by Jack Gordon (and even went back to him after she was beaten up and left him), and that she was telling the truth after that. Why don't we want to accept that an alleged victims could be lying back then and is now telling the truth?
Touché, Do. It does indeed work both ways.


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Couldn't it be possible that, among many other reasons, they were manipulated as well (remember, manipulation doesn't always occur in a negative way, it can be done with love as well).
“They” presumably refers to Robson and Safechuck (as discussed in your previous post)—by whom might they have been manipulated? And how might it have been done with love?

And does anyone know the answer to the question that I posed in my previous post?

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TMZ Articles / Re: NEW CHILD MOLESTATION CLAIM By Wade Robson
« on: February 27, 2015, 10:23:11 AM »
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Thank you for your post. I truly understand that what Robson and Safechuck claim feels highly suspicious, condering their timing and the fact that they had many opportunities to come forward at a much earlier stage. This makes their stories indeed highly incredible or at least very difficult to examine. My post was merely intended to show that (in general), not all victims of molestation immediately tell someone that they were abused or that they refuse to go back to their molester (which was MFFreedom was wondering about).

However, I still do think that there could be many reasons why a victim doesn't come forward. I'm certainly not a psychologist, but Stockholm syndrome could be one of them You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Please correct me if I'm wrong, because truly, IDK. While behavior and body-language analysis of possible victims of sexual abuse provides for interesting discussion, it does not suffice as evidence (i.e., of guilt or innocence, fact or fiction, truth or lies, and so on) regarding the alleged perpetrator in a court of law, or does it?

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TMZ Articles / Re: NEW CHILD MOLESTATION CLAIM By Wade Robson
« on: February 25, 2015, 08:20:26 AM »
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Here is some interesting expiriment:

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This blog entry is a truly brilliant and enlightened piece of writing (imho). Our beliefs are manipulated on so many different levels, even on a global scale. The writer of the blog connected the dots in one situation (i.e., Ukraine political issues) and consequently found herself connecting dots regarding other situations including in respect to Michael Jackson. The rabbit hole is truly deep.

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But is it possible to channel the fury of millions of people into a direction which is totally false?

Possible and very much so. All it needs is: 1) the idea 2) conductors of the orchestra 3) willing participants (media and others) to play the ‘right’ tune and beat it into people’s heads with a deafening noise. The success of the operation depends on the concerted effort of all players.

So yes, the hatred campaign against Michael Jackson was also an orchestrated effort, because only the unity of action on the part of all players can produce the desired unanimity effect on the targeted audience. Otherwise it won’t work.

Now that the same brainwashing campaign is raging in my country and it took just several months to turn the views of many people into their opposite, I can assert that the key factors to the ‘success’ of the operation is the totality and force of lies. When lies, half-truths and half-lies pour from every media outlet on a daily basis they are able to stamp out the last traces of doubt even if you were initially convinced of something different.  As a result public opinion reaches a stage when everyone relies on all others thinking that “all of them can’t be wrong”.

In fact this is one of the favorite arguments of Michael’s haters, as if the opinion of the majority can be equivalent to proof of anyone’s guilt.  So what if the majority doubted Michael’s innocence? The only thing it proves is that the majority was successfully led to believe lies about Jackson through an unprecedented campaign of slander, hate and disinformation.

Fortunately, the blog writer offers a tested solution:

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The truthful position of just one person can crucially change the whole thing. And start a new chain reaction followed by many other similar chain reactions. And this is where the chances for the truth are.

Thanks for sharing, ShyBleuEyes.

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We think exactly alike I asked myself this first and I based believing on facts things like no body viewing no real photos of mj dread besides the supposed morgue photo so I still believe all those things and I just really kinda believe somehow even though to me it feels like he faked his death I just feel somehow he's dead and Paris has me convinced but then again she was the biggest /only actress at the funeral so I really don't know I suppose I'm becoming half deader half believer and on top of the evidence and facts that Iv seen I do also wish Michael alive so much that it causes me to second guess these things a little, if you believers including myself are correct when do you think we will see him again?

Thank you for having the courage to share your feelings, MichaelJacksontruthis. :smiley_abuv: It’s going on six years now, and we’ve all undoubtedly swung back and forth regarding our beliefs from time to time. You make a great point about second-guessing and pose a reasonable question, I think, at the end of your post.         

Hulk Smash, you also make a good point--“come with proof or it will remain speculation just like the other theories”--in that, unfortunately, this can ultimately be said to both non-believers and believers.
 

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Dangerous / Michael's perfomance at Super Bowl XXVII, 1993
« on: January 30, 2015, 10:04:15 PM »
The following article is now trending, presumably in light of the upcoming 2015 Super Bowl on February 1.

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How the NFL convinced
Michael Jackson to perform at
Super Bowl XXVII

By Yahoo Sports Staff
January 29, 2015 9:23 PM
 
SportsDash Super Bowl XLIX between the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots could be the most watched edition in the game's illustrious history. Cheap seats at University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Ariz. are going for $8,500. But the NFL's championship wasn't always so grand. Way back when, it took some convincing by the league to get The King of Pop to show up. In a truly captivating read, Sports Illustrated's Austin Murphy recounts the evolution of the Super Bowl's halftime show. Murphy specifically notes Michael Jackson's involvement in Super Bowl XXVII being a game-changing moment in how the halftime performance is viewed today — and how it almost never happened.



For a month they got nowhere. [The NFL's Jim] Steeg sat down with the King of Pop’s manager, Sandy Gallin, 11 months before Super Bowl XXVII. “I remember pitching them,” he says, “and them not really having a clue what we were talking about.” At a subsequent meeting, producer Don Mischer pointed out that the Super Bowl would be broadcast in more than 120 countries. Now he had Jackson’s full attention.


Steeg recalls Jackson saying, “So you’re telling me that this show is going live to all those places where I’ll never do a concert?” A pause. “I’m in.”

“Michael worked harder than anybody [who’s done the halftime show], before or since,” says Steeg, who remembers seeing Jackson still rehearsing his act at seven the night before the game, in a tent outside the Rose Bowl.

And it showed. Jackson, rocking a bandolier-draped frock coat on loan, apparently, from Muammar Gaddafi, was sensational. The final moments of that show were the most viewed in the history of television at the time.

Watch the entire twelve-and-a-half minute performance here. (You know you're big time when James Earl Jones does your intro.) Needless to say, Katy Perry has big shoes to fill.


I'm unable to get the performance video mentioned above to post, :icon_e_confused: but here's the link to a truly great moment in history-- :multiplespotting: Michael Jackson, Super Bowl XXVII halftime:

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Thanks, RK. It's such a bizarre story.

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Does anyone know anything about this? Is it a legitimate news source?

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It was announced on Sunday afternoon that as of January 24th, the King of Pop Michael Jackson will be pushed off his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame throne.  Michael Jackson was initially welcomed into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame during the 2001 induction ceremony alongside of 7 other performers including Aerosmith, Queen, Paul Simon, and Steely Dan.

It was no surprise when Jackson was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as he is arguably the largest global pop culture icon the world has ever seen.  The surprise came this morning when Rock and Roll Hall of Fame spokesperson and Regional Operations Director Francis Spicer announced that Rock and Roll Hall of Fame executives have unanimously made the decision to remove Michael Jackson from his position within the museum.

According to Spicer, the decision to remove Jackson from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame was not an easy one. Spicer told the press that top executives held several high level meetings over the span of 5 months before agreeing upon the January 24th removal of Jackson.  Spokesperson Spicer made the following statement, “The decision to remove Jackson will not be a popular one, and was very hard for us to make, however at the end of the day we need to make business decisions in a way that promotes the long term growth and vitality of our business.”

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame declined to give the press a full and detailed explanation behind the removal of Michael Jackson from their popular Cleveland museum, however did give a brief explanation that several Michael Jackson fans say left too many questions unanswered. According to Spicer, “We have recently obtained four highly lucrative investors, these new investors will be essential to our growth, not only from a financial perspective, but also from an experience standpoint.” According to Spicer, one of the terms the new investors brought forth prior to joining the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame family, was to remove Michael Jackson from the museum.  Spicer explained, the new investors were uncomfortable with the allegations faced by Michael Jackson prior to his death and did not want to have an affiliation with a business that recognized Jackson as an icon.

Spicer concluded his announcement by saying, “We recognize the positive impact Michael Jackson’s music has had on many fans, however we need to move forward with this tough decision as it will allow us to continue to grow and provide the best possible experience for our visitors.”

It is unclear what the long term impact of removing Jackson from their museum will have on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, however media commentator Allen Gifford told viewers of his 30 minute FOX affiliate program What’s Hot Now, that one of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s new investors has also been having closed door discussions with executives of the popular music streaming application Pandora. According to Gifford, it’s a well-known fact that this particular investor has interest in purchasing the popular music application. Gifford told his viewers that if Pandora decides to sell, its users should expect to have Michael Jackson’s music removed from the application as soon as the second fiscal quarter of 2015.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Jermaine's B-day Dinner Photo - MJ in pic?
« on: December 13, 2014, 05:10:14 PM »
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Is it just me who thinks I can see a reflection of someone-michael-im the windows behind?

You're not alone. I see it, too. It's in the tree leaves . . . sunglasses and dark hair parted in the center. It does look similar to MJ. But who knows, right?  :icon_lol:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Cinco de Mayo, 5-5 (2014): BAM!!!!!
« on: June 19, 2014, 01:24:15 PM »
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I bet he will say "The Source" of all his info all these years is God.

Interesting. I was just reading back through this thread to refresh my memory of the conversation, and Bec, basically, that is indeed what TS said in “Sign 7 & Update 7.” Said that the source of his info is primarily “providence” but that he is “not immune to deception” by the devil when receiving providence.  :icon_neutral:

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was there ever any explanation as to why the third bodyguard dropped out of this project?   didn't he not only drop out but came out as not wanting to be identified with it at all?

humm perhaps reviewing the interviews with these guys can give some insight into what has transpired between then and the results and can see how they spoke about him during that time. remember someone , maybe twitter making a comment on who was behind them writing this book?  was that karen  or pearl or perhaps jermaine ?

also if this incindent at the pool took place wouldn't there be some scares that would have been mentioned on the autopsy or would they be too trivial?

[ot]Is “Marvin” the bodyguard you’re referring to? Here’s something interesting from the Carlotta Chatwood Show, particularly from 5:00-6:56. Of course, the interviewers state that they don’t know whether any of the info is true and point out that the “nephew” is simply a random caller.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYHolPuIjvE[/youtube]  [/ot]
(EDIT: Suspicious, you're likely referring to Mike Garcia [?]. Marvin Butts is the bodyguard referred to in the video above.)                         

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