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The Movie References / ET: The Extra-Terrestrial
« on: January 31, 2011, 03:01:16 PM »
I was reading a magazine where it had a quote from MJ saying his favorite movie was "ET."

ET = 5+2 = 7

Here is a summary of the movie:

The film opens in a Northern California forest as a group of alien botanists collect flora samples. U.S. government agents appear and the aliens flee in their spaceship, leaving one of their own behind in their haste. The scene shifts to a suburban California home, where a boy named Elliott plays servant to his older brother, Michael, and his friends. As he fetches pizza, Elliott discovers the stranded alien, who promptly flees. Despite his family's disbelief, Elliott leaves Reese's Pieces candy in the forest to lure it into his bedroom. Before he goes to bed, Elliott notices the alien imitating his movements.

Elliott feigns illness the next morning to avoid school so he can play with the alien. That afternoon, Michael and their younger sister, Gertie, meet the alien. Their mother, Mary, hears the noise and comes upstairs. Michael, Gertie, and the alien hide in the closet while Elliott assures his mother that everything is all right. Michael and Gertie promise to keep the alien a secret from their mother. Deciding to keep the alien, the children begin to ask it about its origin. It answers by levitating balls to represent its solar system, and further demonstrates its powers by reviving a dead plant.

At school the next day, Elliott begins to experience a psychic connection with the alien. Elliott becomes irrational due partly to the alien's intoxication from drinking beer. Elliott then begins freeing all the frogs from a dissection class. As the alien watches John Wayne kiss Maureen O'Hara in The Quiet Man, Elliott's psychic link causes him to kiss a girl he likes in the same manner.

The alien learns to speak English by repeating what Gertie says as she watches Sesame Street and, at Elliott's urging, dubs itself "E.T." It enlists Elliott's help in building a device to "phone home" by using a Speak & Spell toy. Michael starts to notice that ET's health is declining and that Elliott is referring to himself as "we". On Halloween, Michael and Elliott dress E.T. as a ghost so they can sneak him out of the house. Elliott and E.T. ride a bicycle to the forest, where E.T. makes a successful call home. The next morning, Elliott wakes up to find E.T. gone, and returns home to his distressed family. Michael finds E.T. dying in the forest, and takes the alien to Elliott, who is also dying. Mary becomes frightened when she discovers her son's illness and the dying alien, before government agents invade the house.

Scientists set up a medical facility in the house, quarantining Elliott and E.T. Their link disappears (presumably severed by E.T. to save Elliott's life), and E.T. then appears to die while Elliott recovers. Elliott is left alone with the motionless alien when he notices a dead flower, the plant E.T. had previously revived, coming back to life. E.T. reanimates and reveals that his people are returning. Elliott and Michael steal a van that E.T. had been loaded into and a chase ensues, with Michael's friends joining them as they attempt to evade the authorities by bicycle. Suddenly facing a dead end, they escape as E.T. uses telekinesis to lift them into the air and toward the forest. Standing near the spaceship, E.T.'s heart glows as he prepares to return home. Mary, Gertie, and "Keys", a government agent, show up. E.T. says goodbye to Michael and Gertie, and before entering the spaceship, tells Elliott "I'll be right here", pointing his glowing finger to Elliott's head. E.T. then picks up the flower pot Gertie gave him, walks into the spaceship, and takes off, leaving a rainbow in the sky. The last shot of the movie is Elliot looking up at the sky.

By reading the story, you can obviously see the similarities. Yes, I know that this movie came out before even THRILLER came out, but maybe MJ stating that ET was his favorite movie was his way of hinting to us. IDK

General Hoax Talk / July 11, 2011
« on: January 29, 2011, 03:36:00 PM »
I'd like to thank Souza for pointing this out:

Not so sure. I can't help but think about that written note lately. "See you in July 2011". Mike's trial back in 2005 started February 28, and ended 15 weeks later in June. This trial starts March 28, and 15 weeks later will be 7/11/2011. Murray's licence number is 71169. Turn 6 to 9 on 7/11? Or does the year 1969 have some significance here?

Well, first off 71169 ends up being 6

7+1+1+6+9 = 24 = 6

Interestingly enough, 8/29/1958 equals 6 too

8+2+9+1+9+5+8 = 42 = 4+2 = 6

And if you add up his "death" date, it equals 6 too

6+2+5+2+9 = 24 = 2+4 = 6

Turning 666 upside down is one of his reasons for the hoax! Could 7/11/2011 be bamsday? Who knows? Just something interesting I was thinking about.

And not to mention Murray's license number is 71169

Turning the 6[66] system to the 9[99] system on 7/11?

Also, 7/11 (or 711) equals 9 (number of resurrection)

7+1+1 = 9

Hello all!

I was recently watching "V For Vendetta," for the first time in a LONG TIME. And it got me thinking. So, I looked up information about the movie.

Remember when there was that person named JCC, who was giving out supposed "clues?" And one of them was GERMANY IS THE KEY?

Well, here's the interesting "coincidence:"

V For Vendetta was released in Germany on 3/16/2006. That date, when added up, equals 9!

3+2+1+2+0+0+6 = 18 = 1+8 = 9

Probably a coincidence, but MAYBE not.

Also, V For Vendetta was made by WARNER BROTHERS, who also own TMZ!

Just a little interesting thing I was thinking about. I am not saying that JCC was real. Chances are, they weren't. Just wanted to point out this interesting "coincidence."

I hadn't read this thread and I still stand by it. If I still had the book, I'd look up his description for 2011 (since the one for 2010 says that changes will come next year).


I looked it up online and here is year number for 2011 (5):
This is an exciting year in which you will be required to promote yourself in order to take full advantage of the opportunities that await you.
There will be increased opportunity to travel, and possibly a change of residence.
You may be tempted by the desires of the flesh: too much food, alcohol, sex, and drugs. Be careful and discriminatory. You could make mistakes in these areas.
You will have some unexpected adventures and lucky breaks this year.
This can be an unsettling year if you try to cling to outmoded methods or characteristics. Throw off the old, and adopt the new. It is a year of rebirth and release after last year's struggle.
This is a year in which change takes place consistently, and particularly so in April and May. July is a breakthrough, a time to enjoy life. September can be intense, while October requires tact and balance in relationships.

TMZ Articles / Re: Evidence of Other Doctors in Michael Jackson's Death
« on: December 14, 2010, 01:30:37 PM »
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
Evidence of Other Doctors in Michael Jackson's Death[/b]

Certain items found in the room where Michael Jackson died could help shape Dr. Conrad Murray's defense -- namely, that other docs were medicating Michael.

Sources connected with the case tell TMZ ... evidence in the room suggests certain potent drugs were "prescribed and prepared" for MJ to self-medicate.

As we first reported, Dr. Murray's team will not challenge the L.A. County Coroner's finding that Jackson died of a massive Propofol overdose. But as we told you, Murray's team will present evidence in the doc's manslaughter case that Michael awakened, then gave himself the fatal dose of Propofol when Murray left the room.

We're told Murray's team hasn't decided if it will use the evidence found in the room to implicate other doctors in Jackson's death.  But we do know Murray's legal team will present evidence during the trial that the fruits of Jackson's notorious doctor shopping over two decades wore his body down.

The rep for Dr. Murray's lawyer refused comment.

Was looking at the first letters of each paragraph, and it spells "CC SAW."

It made me think of the CCTV security cameras. Maybe something will be revealed about the security tapes?

It's probably nothing though :P

And the "EOD" in the title, made me think to look up that acronym:

End Of Day
End Of Discussion
Entertainment On Demand (television)

Those were just SOME acronyms

Other Odd Things / 50 Cent's Rap in "Monster"
« on: December 08, 2010, 01:18:12 PM »
Catch me in a bad mood, flippin' you'll take a whippin'
Animal, hannibal, cannibal addition
Tears appear, yeah, blurring your vision
Fear in the air, screaming, your blood drippin'
Shiver a second, now, now, now, now what is it
Funeral's, cemetaries, don't worry it's time to visit
Broke bones, tombstones, how do you think I'm kidding
Its home, sweet home, the land of the forbidden
All hell, run tell, the King has risen
2010 Thriller, there's nothing iller, it's killer

There vision, the missin' the pack, this is that,
This the bomb, ring the alarm
MJ number 1, it's goes on and on
Its goes on and on
We get to crippin', its running in the early morn'
Keep on dreaming there's nowhere to run
You can drive but you done
I can feel it in the air, here the monster come.

I found the underlined parts interesting, as all of you probably have too. If there is a post about this, please either lock this thread or merge or whatever. :)

Other Odd Things / Proof 911 Call Came From a Payphone?
« on: November 18, 2010, 04:37:33 PM »
Remember how there were 4 different 911 calls that were online? They each were, essentially the same call though.

In one of them, you can hear what appears to be a woman's voice saying "2 minutes" (or something like that).

I recently was talking on a payphone and, when the timelimit is close to being over, a voice comes on and says how much longer you have left (2 minutes, 30 seconds, etc).

Remember how on the ambulance screen, it said the address was the Beverly Hills Hotel? Maybe there is a payphone there.

I know that they said it was because of a cell phone tower there, but in reality...THERE IS NO CELL PHONE TOWER there!


Michael / Re: Hold My Hand... first single????
« on: November 16, 2010, 04:46:52 PM »
When they say the first official single, they mean the first official single that is available to buy (on I-Tunes, etc).

Breaking News was the first song released (but isn't available to buy).

By the way, here is my theory about "Breaking News":

The version we have heard online is not the real version. It was released to create speculation. Maybe on the album we will hear the real version (that sounds more like MJ).

Other Odd Things / Re: Mystery Numbers in TIAI Update 6
« on: November 13, 2010, 04:06:55 PM »
LOL my bad :)

Other Odd Things / Mystery Numbers in TIAI Update 6
« on: November 12, 2010, 04:41:31 PM »
As you all know, in Update 6, TS included a group of numbers:


I tried to "decode" them and here is what I got:

25        [27-2]
-4         [19-23]
-3         [27-30]

Once I got this, I added them together (like an ordinary addition problem, subsituting the "-" signs for zeroes). The number I got was 79. 7 + 9 = 16 = 1+6 = 7

But, ALSO, if you take into account that the section of the update was about the redirect on 6-12-2010, you can go further into this.

2010 - 79 = 1931

You get the year 1931. Here is a list of events that happened in 1931:

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I then took MJ's birth year (1958) and subtracted 1931 from it.

1958 - 1931 = 27

27 years pass between these two years. 2 + 7 = 9 Here is a list of events that happened in 1958:

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Furthermore, if you add 27 to 1958, you get:

1958 + 27 = 1985

Here is a list of events that happened in 1985:

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Specifically, We Are the World is released.

Also, 1985 is a book about a totalitarian government that controls the people. It also has to do with Big Brother. This is kind of what part of MJ's message is about (amongst other things).

BUT, if you add 27 to 1985, you get a very important year:

1985 + 27 = 2012

2012! An important year for the hoax (911 call at 12:21, etc)!

In conclusion, do I believe this is the RIGHT way to decode the numbers? Maybe. But who knows?

Another little bonus "tidbit" about the years:
1985 = 1+9+8+5 = 14 = 1+4 = 5
1958 = 1+9+5+8 = 23 = 2+3 = 5
1985 = 1+9+8+5 = 23 = 2+3 = 5
2012 = 2+0+1+2 = 5

Other Odd Things / Re: New album title and release date REVEALED
« on: November 04, 2010, 08:41:48 PM »
What I find interesting is the title for the first single, "Breaking News"

Breaking News ;)

Other Odd Things / New album title and release date REVEALED
« on: November 04, 2010, 05:18:43 PM »
The title and release date of the much anticipated Michael Jackson album has been revealed.

RELEASE DATE: December 14, 2010

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Exclusive Teaser and Song to be Unveiled on

New York, NY – The much anticipated album of newly completed recordings from Michael Jackson entitled MICHAEL will be released on December 14 by Epic Records in conjunction with the Estate of Michael Jackson. Tomorrow, an exclusive teaser for the project will appear on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login on Monday, November 8th the world premiere of “Breaking News,” a full track from the album, will stream on the site for one week only.

The creative process never stopped for the King of Pop who was always planning for his next album; unbeknownst to many fans around the world Michael Jackson was writing and recording songs continuously everywhere from a friend’s home in New Jersey to studios in Las Vegas and Los Angeles with a small group of handpicked collaborators. Now, through the unique stories that will be told about the songs that comprise MICHAEL, fans will get mind-blowing insight into how this artist worked and a chance to hear the songs he most recently created along with tracks that Michael had a desire to bring to fruition.

“Breaking News,” a never heard before song by Michael that appears on the new album was recorded in New Jersey in 2007 and recently brought to completion. Fans can begin pre-ordering the album on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login in the next 24 hours.

The attached image of the album cover of MICHAEL was created by painter Kadir Nelson in 2009. In the oil painting, Kadir – who is known for story telling through his art – takes us on a journey through some key moments and important people in Michael Jackson’s life.

Stay tuned for the worldwide launch of the official first single from MICHAEL later this month.
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Michael Jackson News / Re: MJ's New Album-Pitting Family against Friends?
« on: November 03, 2010, 11:20:07 AM »
Quote from: "Sinderella"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
" But recently, an email was sent to the estate’s executors from Paris, 11, claiming the voice belongs to an impostor. The only problem, sources say, is that the email was time stamped while Paris was in school."

This is from the original article.....Katherine wouldn't probably know how to use the computer, so maybe it was Michael that sent that email himself, to start all this contraversy

Very possible!It's highly confusing.....yet interesting to watch unfold.

Actually, only the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 versions of the game are delayed until 2011.

The Nintendo Wii, the Nintendo DS, and the Playstation Portable versions are still coming out on November 23rd, 2010.

I will believe that when I see it.I still..and it is Nov 3rd yet to see 1 poster,article,review,TV ad,online commercial,blog,ANYONE talking about it apart from us and people on the youtube video-which I already said about and it looks totally fake.
I have mentioned it to a number of people who own these consoles and not one of them had a clue it was due what market are they hoping to reach?Just anyone who happens to be shopping for a new game in November?I don't think so.

I know it's MJ but how do they expect to reach maximum selling potential when it is right on top of xmas,there are at least another 20 games out,a few high profile ones like call of duty-yes I know they aren't in the same catergory but you know what..that means nothing when the sales are counted and the chsrts are compiled.
Every game...COD or MJ requirs marketing and advertisement at ANY time of year, let alone less than 2months to Christmas.
They will already lose a ton of money from not having the two main versions xbox and PS3 out in time.

There IS advertisements. They have a promo box at every Gamestop. It's featured in the #1 video game magazine GAME INFORMER. And a lot of video game companies don't begin their advertising campaign until a lot closer to the game's release.

Not to mention, it was playable at New York Comic Con, which is a HUGE advertisment in it's own, seeing how TONS of people go to the various Comic Cons throughout the year.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Michael Jackson neuron aids mind control
« on: November 03, 2010, 11:14:00 AM »
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "finfin"
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Michael Jackson neuron aids mind control
A new study has found that people use mind control to change images on a video screen based on their conscious thought.

The volunteers were shown pictures of Marilyn Monroe or Michael Jackson, around 110 familiar images an scientists identified individual neurons that uniquely and reliably responded to one of the images.
The volunteers suffered severe, treatment-resistant epilepsy, and were awaiting neurosurgery at the UCLA Ronald Reagan Medical Center in Los Angeles to remove the brain tissue responsible for initiating seizures.

Hmmm, new study? How new this old study if volunteers Melilyn lived and passed in 20th century, Michael lives in 21st century? So, the study has begun  more than 40 years ago still new or they just sturted to study, then how Merilyn could be among volunteers ? Interesting.......Epilespy did not have a treament back then either, if I am not mistaken. Totally BS article.
thanks for posting though. We certainly want to read everything that related or not related but has a name of Michael Jackson.

The article DID NOT say that Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson were volunteers in this experiment. It says that the volunteers were shown IMAGES of Marilyn Monroe and Michael Jackson.

So it could still be a "legit" article. The study didn't begin more than 40 years ago. It was recently.

Michael Jackson News / Re: MJ's New Album-Pitting Family against Friends?
« on: November 03, 2010, 12:11:23 AM »
Quote from: "Sinderella"
Quote from: "Snoopy71"
I don't know what to make of this, but someone clearly wants this album released under a "cloud of controversy".   :shock:

With the talk of doubles and imposters and hoaxes it makes you wonder if this is yet another piece of the hoax?  First the O2 announcement, then the movie TII content was questionable, now the new album is too?  Even pictures of Michael are being considered questionable ,"photoshopped" or fake.  The fact the kids are being brought in to "verify" the voice is suspect (kind of like when they said Prince had to be present when Dr. Murray  performed CPR on Michael to validate it.)  

Someone is trying to tell us something and they are driving the point home with a hammer! The question is what? ...if it doesn't look like him (O2 announcement), doesn't move like him (TII), doesn't sound like him (new album)....then it's not him? ...and the kids can validate it? :shock:

My thoughts exactly snoopy-i love your name also btw

Also while looking at all these things that AREN'T him, lets not forget the game which is now not coming out until 2011 due to them finding out they can make it better..another product worth millions...another delay.The other company behind the game for anyone not in the know-is actually Triumph International-MJ's company being run atm by Al Malnik but with the agents name listed as Vincent Chieffo,  c/o John Branca's office address.
It was halted in 2007 and re started in August 2009 before the forest lawn funeral had even taken place.
Before he was 'buried' they had started back up the company that owns EVERYTHING with Michael Jackson or his face or image on.I mean...everything from mugs to games to shirts to bath towels.
You'd think if his estate was so broke they'd be pushing these out to get the dollars rolling in...
FACT:Al Malnik once claimed he was the biological father of Blanket,and is also Blankets godfather...strange right?
So who really is running TI?Michael but running it behind these men?
Also,if TI is part of the estate,doesn't Katherine now have control over it not Branca? or did I just make that up??

Apparently they started making the game when MJ was 'alive'.They needed his dance moves to copy over into the game-obviously as it's a MJ dance game..and it's called the experience...
however,if you watch the only piece of promo for it available on youtube-where else? you will see the moves aren't top notch,they are less than perfect and since MJ is a perfectionist and is the lord of dance moves....surely he'd make sure it was the best game visually and everything else of all time?He is thr king of breaking records and being the best why not give a shit about a dance game named after you.
So is he stopping it from coming out or was someone else used to make that game as well as TII/02??
Who is going to call 'grieving' children liars?Surely they know their own dad's's foolproof to get them in and give a story.
Personally I have said for a long time,the kids are a huge part of the answer to all this.

I think the game and album need looking into a lot more closely..AND who is behind them.

Actually, only the Playstation 3 and the Xbox 360 versions of the game are delayed until 2011.

The Nintendo Wii, the Nintendo DS, and the Playstation Portable versions are still coming out on November 23rd, 2010.

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