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.....for the credits.

Ever since reading about MJ and 9/11 and how he escaped death by not attending that morning meeting at the World Trade Center I cannot get the musical Godspell or its connection to this out of my head!!!!

JustDucky wrote:
Logically, I can't imagine why MJ would want to return to his "normal" life. If the press was relentless before, imagine them after a return from the dead that made them look like idiots? You just know that people would try to sue him for everything from mental pain and anguish to the cost of CDs and memorabilia. Even if he won every suit, he'd be right back where he was, spending time and money on litigation and being hounded by the press. That said....

There are indeed indications Michael Jackson may, at some point, return to the public eye. I don't think he intends to perform again, if you follow his business affairs from 2000 on you see that he was actually moving away from that in 2002. [highlight=#ffff00:1n9bqyrw]But if there is a way for him to club the ignorant and hateful over the head with irrefutable proof of his innocence once and for all, and to be absolved of any liability stemming from a staged death, I would so love to see him give a big F--- Y-- to the haters and the doubters and go on with his life. So I'll Keep Watchin.....[/highlight:1n9bqyrw]

Thanks, JustDucky, for this well-written post! I particularly love the highlighted area and would love to see that come to light as well.

A big  bearhug to Michael! We love you, man!

[Pies]

As we have been talking about Pies and Squares, I suddenly remembered this post from back from  2007:

[img=center:azrf648o]http://oi54.tinypic.com/t6s1zo.jpg[/img]
For a bigger image go to: http://oi54.tinypic.com/t6s1zo.jpg

In this post Back discusses the valuation of the catalogue and recommends that the poster he is talking to, uses the Pythagorean Theorem:

"a2 + b2 = c2 --------- those two sides have to "square off" with reality to achieve sufficient balance. That's the purpose of an equation -- formulate it to reach equilibrium. "See" what I'm saying? "

You may remember that the Scarecrow in the film The Wizard of Oz makes a specific reference to the theorem. Upon receiving his diploma from the Wizard, he immediately exhibits his "knowledge" by reciting a mangled and incorrect version of the theorem:
"The sum of the square roots of any two sides of an isosceles triangle is equal to the square root of the remaining side. Oh, joy! Oh, rapture! I've got a brain!"
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem

[highlight=#ffff00:azrf648o]I guess that when the PIE is cooked, EQUILIBRIUM will be reached and we will have completed our journey on the YELLOW BRICK ROAD.[/highlight:azrf648o]
moonwalk_/

With L.O.V.E

Thanks for the refreshing post, RunningGirl! Could Front's posts about "pie" possibly indicate that someone's innards are being "cooked" as we speak?!?!?!??!?!

*** In the end, what is most important, is that MJ gets his piece of the pie!

It looks like MJ, but is hard to tell with his face partially covered. At any
rate,  he is quite handsome! A very nice pic, indeed. Thanks.

Hmmmm......this doesn't sound like an "official" estate press release to me. If so, a credible source would be cited, right?

Front,
So, do you have control of the "dough"??????

[font=Century Gothic:6zsezgh0]I cannot help but fixate on the money. And, it's not due to greed like those blood sucking leeches that wanted something from MJ.....but because I truly think TS is giving us a hint by posting these pics here. At the end of the day it is all about $$$$ and by the looks of it (see pics) MJ appears  IN CONTROL of the millions!!!! That is why we see him confidently smiling on the backside and appearing determined on the front side??????!!!! I sense a shift of some sort has occurred. Do you?????

I bet those blood sucking leeches he has always talked about are burning right now (or at least in the hot seat!) What did MJ say again in This Is It????? Let it burn????? Well, I agree, let 'em burn!!!!

Get 'em Michael![/font:6zsezgh0]

P.S. I also like the fact that Michael is "in the round" on the backside of the bill. If one is to think about that he may be gearing up to take center stage (no doubt he never left it)! Also, how many of you have seen regular bills featuring head shots on the backside? That is normally only reserved for the front side. This graphical representation is very interesting indeed! Hmmmmmm......makes you wonder, that is for certain!!!!

NALUKBEAEBR:

UNBREAKABLE!

Ahhhhhhhh, there you are Front! Like a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the post.

This has to be one of the most saddest and unnecessary threads I've ever read or participated in on this website. It's nothing against Souza, because I love her logic and writing style the most out of all participants, and I'm not kissing up. It's just fact. But I do wonder about what TS is about these days. What is the purpose really of this thread? Level X my hind parts. It sucks big toe nails. Not knocking the ones that delight in it at tall by the way. This is between me and TS.

MJ = LOVE period. He is a very Positive person as I believe I am. I say he's Brilliant, because of the Light he has always exuded. The word genius is thrown around too much for my taste. He is a Brilliant man that emits a lot of Light and always has. He is an Enlightened and Awakened individual.

The theme of today is Unity Consciousness. So how can discussing such a depressing and sad topic be helpful, beneficial or enlightening in the positive sense? It defeats the purpose of what Michael Jackson is all about. He is about love and unity - period.

Maybe it's me, but I think this topic stinks to depths of meaningless banter. I know, I don't have to read up, and believe me, I haven't read most posts at all, because it's so depressing to read such negative things.

I often wondered why some on here thinks that TMZ is only posting articles for us hoaxers. They have a much larger audience than the people on this board. They are posting many of these BS articles concerning Murray and other MJ related things just to mess with people. MJ wrote a song entitled Tabloids Junkie, because he was sick of how people would believe anything the lying tabloids and MSM told about him. It hurt him that many believed the lies its true - but with this hoax - and when it pertains to much of the news about this case (MJ's hoax), it's put out there as a documentation as to how easy some can be fooled, how gullible some are and how ignorant people are to believe anything that's in print without any investigation.

Again, this website and others like it is not why TMZ exists. It existed and had a large readership before 6-25-09. MJ is punking his haters, many in all areas and types of media - and the ones that rely on their governments or the lying and scheming media for truth.

In my opinion, TS is doing partly the same thing. I said a couple of weeks ago, that MJ wants for people interested in the hoax to prove why he is alive, not why and how he died. That defeats the purpose.

And TS, I do feel sorry for the Newbies. Many folks will run away from this website rather than embrace it. It's like now we want them to doubt us even further. We want them to think us crazy. I know I was getting a few recruits to wonder what if MJ is alive. Many of them were getting hopeful. Many still don't want to. Why? Why should it matter to anyone really?

I think it matters to a lot of people, because many of us always felt MJ's brilliance and radiance, and the love he had for humanity and his God. Many people loved his music, yes, but many more also loved his HEART. So how does it seem right to mess with the newbies to this website and to the idea that MJ is alive - for believe me, many want so desperately for it to be true. They may not understand it themselves, but they know that there was always something so special about the man. They now in retrospect realize that when they used to hear him speak from his heart more so than hear him sing (many already felt he sang like an angel since 5 or 6 years old), they were drawn to him.

These are the ones I feel sorry for. The ones that are new to the idea. Well I suppose, they may need to bypass this website, for they won't get any true feelings of convictions from most. They won't get any CORE BELIEFS from many. Many are wishy-washy, and therefore are not more of an inspiration than the ones that call MJ names, think he molested children - and last but not least, think he was a druggie. They would be wrong on all counts of course, but to believe that he is dead is to believe that he took this drug - PROP FOR FOOL - and demoral and other such drugs.

Some lose the plot every other day and forget that in all movies that are screened have to have a story to tell in the way the author envisions it. It has a beginning, middle and an ending.

Some say they can't be sure of this and that concerning this HOAX/ARG/DOCUMENTARY - let alone that the man is alive. Some of the older posters are still trying to figure out if he is alive? It is almost turning into some kind of draconian joke. And it's sad that it has come to this. Well I can be sure of this and that. No one could have had the BRILLIANCE to pull off a hoax that he has been planning for years but Michael Jackson. I've seen him alive in the flesh after 6-25-09 - and that's enough for me.

TS - You can take this level and either fill in the blank or get of the pot.

[highlight=#ff40ff:16yzxj4q]Peacock,
I hate to put you on the spot but am I understanding you correctly when you wrote above:
"I've seen him alive in the flesh after 6-25-09-and that's enough for me."???????

Really????? If so, can you tell us more?

Thank you!!!!!!

[/highlight:16yzxj4q]

So sorry to re-post this but my original post above (in this thread) did not discriminate Peacock's original post from my question. Thank you.

This has to be one of the most saddest and unnecessary threads I've ever read or participated in on this website. It's nothing against Souza, because I love her logic and writing style the most out of all participants, and I'm not kissing up. It's just fact. But I do wonder about what TS is about these days. What is the purpose really of this thread? Level X my hind parts. It sucks big toe nails. Not knocking the ones that delight in it at tall by the way. This is between me and TS.

MJ = LOVE period. He is a very Positive person as I believe I am. I say he's Brilliant, because of the Light he has always exuded. The word genius is thrown around too much for my taste. He is a Brilliant man that emits a lot of Light and always has. He is an Enlightened and Awakened individual.

The theme of today is Unity Consciousness. So how can discussing such a depressing and sad topic be helpful, beneficial or enlightening in the positive sense? It defeats the purpose of what Michael Jackson is all about. He is about love and unity - period.

Maybe it's me, but I think this topic stinks to depths of meaningless banter. I know, I don't have to read up, and believe me, I haven't read most posts at all, because it's so depressing to read such negative things.

I often wondered why some on here thinks that TMZ is only posting articles for us hoaxers. They have a much larger audience than the people on this board. They are posting many of these BS articles concerning Murray and other MJ related things just to mess with people. MJ wrote a song entitled Tabloids Junkie, because he was sick of how people would believe anything the lying tabloids and MSM told about him. It hurt him that many believed the lies its true - but with this hoax - and when it pertains to much of the news about this case (MJ's hoax), it's put out there as a documentation as to how easy some can be fooled, how gullible some are and how ignorant people are to believe anything that's in print without any investigation.

Again, this website and others like it is not why TMZ exists. It existed and had a large readership before 6-25-09. MJ is punking his haters, many in all areas and types of media - and the ones that rely on their governments or the lying and scheming media for truth.

In my opinion, TS is doing partly the same thing. I said a couple of weeks ago, that MJ wants for people interested in the hoax to prove why he is alive, not why and how he died. That defeats the purpose.

And TS, I do feel sorry for the Newbies. Many folks will run away from this website rather than embrace it. It's like now we want them to doubt us even further. We want them to think us crazy. I know I was getting a few recruits to wonder what if MJ is alive. Many of them were getting hopeful. Many still don't want to. Why? Why should it matter to anyone really?

I think it matters to a lot of people, because many of us always felt MJ's brilliance and radiance, and the love he had for humanity and his God. Many people loved his music, yes, but many more also loved his HEART. So how does it seem right to mess with the newbies to this website and to the idea that MJ is alive - for believe me, many want so desperately for it to be true. They may not understand it themselves, but they know that there was always something so special about the man. They now in retrospect realize that when they used to hear him speak from his heart more so than hear him sing (many already felt he sang like an angel since 5 or 6 years old), they were drawn to him.

These are the ones I feel sorry for. The ones that are new to the idea. Well I suppose, they may need to bypass this website, for they won't get any true feelings of convictions from most. They won't get any CORE BELIEFS from many. Many are wishy-washy, and therefore are not more of an inspiration than the ones that call MJ names, think he molested children - and last but not least, think he was a druggie. They would be wrong on all counts of course, but to believe that he is dead is to believe that he took this drug - PROP FOR FOOL - and demoral and other such drugs.

Some lose the plot every other day and forget that in all movies that are screened have to have a story to tell in the way the author envisions it. It has a beginning, middle and an ending.

Some say they can't be sure of this and that concerning this HOAX/ARG/DOCUMENTARY - let alone that the man is alive. Some of the older posters are still trying to figure out if he is alive? It is almost turning into some kind of draconian joke. And it's sad that it has come to this. Well I can be sure of this and that. No one could have had the BRILLIANCE to pull off a hoax that he has been planning for years but Michael Jackson. I've seen him alive in the flesh after 6-25-09 - and that's enough for me.

TS - You can take this level and either fill in the blank or get of the pot.

Peacock,
I hate to put you on the spot but am I understanding you correctly when you wrote above: "I've seen him alive in the flesh after 6-25-09-and that's enough for me."???????

Thanks you!!!!!!

Oh damn, maybe it's not as trivial as it looks:

8 24 2006
8+2+4+2+6=22 2+2=4

6 25 2006
6+2+5+2+6=21 2+1=3

4+3=7

8 24 2006 10:06
8+2+4+2+6+1+6=29 2+9=11 1+1=2

6+2+5+2+6 11:54
6+2+5+2+6+1+1+5+4=32 3+2=5

2+5=7

4+2=6
3+5=8
6+8=14 14=7+7

suspicious// What the ...?

Sarah31,
Yep, you are right! Interesting and intriguing to say the least! Thanks to you, too, for your insightful posts! Reading this thread is absolutely fantastic!

party/

JustDucky,
Thanks a million for your thorough and insightful posts. I am not familiar with Back (I am missing out big time)
and had no idea Front was referencing a custard pie! This is interesting and definitely a cooker! I will keep watchin' for sure!!!!
Thanks again!!!!!!

VERY interesting observation, voiceforthesilent. In both cases the difference between the time stamp and  what back wrote does change the date,  11:54pm to 3:54am and 10:06pm to 2:06am. So for now, despite my misunderstanding the time stamps, I'm going to operate on the assumption that this is the "one day of simmering" or something equally significant. I don't see a reason for back to write "post Today, 10:06PM" when that's what he's about to do. Posting times that can be made to equal 7 seems trivial for a man on a mission, so let's all have a look---

Time stamped 8-25-06 2:06am but evidently posted 8-24-06 10:06pm back's time:

tHE SUN RISES amidst the clouds, breaking the thickest of the wild blue yonder's momentary scab. It's a brighter day once the scab fickles and dissapates to matter. As the earth continues its' axis rotation, day to night, night to day, the human beings of said planet witness the continuance of the trance we call time. Time is of the essence, so they say. Time is the checkmate of life. Forever spinning in this globe-cast of many different elements, there comes a tIME when time itself takes a backseat to the mOMENT. We, as intelligent beings, decipher and choose when to allow the moment to suspend time. As with the Killuminatti, iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell.Some things aren't meant for easy translation. But over tIme, it's possible to clearly see the light, if the mOMENT warrants. As the world turns and the clocks spin infinitely, tick tock tick tock, kEEP track of time and please kEEP WATCHIN'..............

relapse...back @ Jun 25 2006, 11:54 PM............post Today, 10:06 PM.. 1+6=7
62 ..76...813...21

1+1=2....5+4=9

2+5=7
29--> 9-2=7
whatever happened to mystery777......

So you know where I'm coming from, I think Michael is back and was mystery777. The equations can be interpreted as him saying he is mystery777 as we see three 7s. I think there's more to it, but I'm not sure what.

I do not believe MJ was an addict in the usual sense, but occasionally may have sought relief from unprecedented, unrelenting stress that way as a last resort.

In "tHE SUN" back says "relaps....back@ Jun 25 2006, 11:54PM"

In "of a tHeOrY or Vision", back says "I can now understand that"vision" of 6/25/06 "relapse", with CLARITY".

I was interpreting "relapse" as return, as in return to that post. But what if he means just what he said? What if, on June 25 2006 back, who I believe is Michael, had a relapse in the clinical sense and, at that time, had a vision that inspired his New 7 Day Theory? Or that gave him the means to implement it? He now sees it with "CLARITY"because that relapse was his last. Could that be what happened that Flatley will take to the grave? People who survive near fatal accidents often speak of a "moment of clarity" that changes their lives. In this moment, they see clearly the path they want to take if they survive. They reach a turning point, or turn a corner.

You're probably all familiar with Tupac's "The Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory", that Tupac released under the name Makaveli, the actual story behind it and the belief that he's in witness protection. For what it's worth, Tupac costarred with Janet Jackson in Poetic Justice in 1993. I think we all agree, back's New 7 Day Theory was inspired by Tupac's. He says as much in an old post, when asked if he's talking about Tupac's Seven Day Theory, back answers with 2 words - "the new".

8-18-06 7:19pm (time stamp) back's post says:
the "media" is no longer a proper description for the tabloid shows rotating on a 24/7 cycle. Trust me, the scab is partially pulled off and puss is starting to leak out. Unfortunately for them, neosporin won't help the progressing "wound" they've inflicted upon themselves. Some of their, uhmm, associates, will help shine the light. Don't worry......Michael Jackson will be fine....They failed

8-18-06 7:36pm, just a few minutes later, he says:
"it's gonna BLOW-UP in their needle nosed faces....Trust me!

It seems that between 8-18-06 and 8-24-06 something happened with that scab that makes back more optimistic. Otherwise, "scab" is an odd metaphor for sky, or daybreak. "72 hours previous" from 8-24 would be 8-21, when back posted a rant about evil, greedy neocons that ends "the countdown is on till their war is lost. Tick-tock......Keep Watchin' "

"72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell." One definition of moment is "A phase or an aspect of a logically developing process".  Every time I read this, I get the feeling that this is the difference between Tupac's Seven Day Theory and back's New 7 Day Theory, but I can't be specific.

I don't know if this factors in, but on 8-8-06 R Baine issued a press release stating former atty's and advisors conspired to force MJ into bankruptcy, and that documents may be sent to the USAG. For 2 days several articles came out on this subject. Is this "some of their, uhmm, associates" shining a light on the subject? Remember how the press had MJ headed to the poorhouse at this time.

8-26-06 12:17am (about 24 hrs after he posted tHE SUN)
In theory, one's mind becomes transfixed on tIME before realizing human energy and curiosity is much better spent focusing on the mOMENT, when it arrives. There is no suppliment for the mOMENT. For it is the oNLY thing subliminally earthly that causes time to stand still. There will come a mOMENT, for it is etched in future books, which will one day become books of history. Time promises us this. The underlying crust of the custard pie is not the ingredients used, but it is very much the tIME it takes to "be done". Is it cooking? Does it smell good? Is the temperature set to 3+4+0 degrees and set for 7+0 minutes? Don't take your eyes off the pie as it bakes. It's best to KEEP WATCHIN'................................................................................................>>>>

From our current perspective, it seems "the pie" is the plan to "die", making time seem to stop as everyone focused on that moment. Time has never been the same, really. One definition of moment is "a particle sufficient to tip the scales."  I think MJ "died" in order to escape unending harassment and persecution, and to force people to see him as a father, brother, son and man, an innocent man. To tip the scales toward the truth. If the TII concerts were the smash success they would have been, the leeches would have slithered out from under their rocks to try to attach themselves to MJ, or his money. If, for some reason, the concerts had flopped, imagine how the press would have destroyed him.

I wondered why a custard pie? Custard pies are traditionally thrown at people in slapstick comedy, and  Michael took that to an extreme when BoW wrapped. Also, in the movie Georgie Girl, Georgie says "God always has a custard pie up his sleeve". So the question now is, does MJ/back have another pie up his sleeve?

Can you smell the NEW & improved recipe Simmering to perfection?

Check the details and ask yourself this.....
1. Is the temperature set at 376 degrees?
2. Is the timer set for 25 minutes?
3. Has it "chilled" for 43 minutes?

If you can answer yes to all of the above, then the ("pie") mold shall be broken indeed.

They say a watched pot never boils, however, in THIS case I would suggest putting that pot on the Front burner and----> KEEP Watchin'

p.s. Those motorcycle pics...pretty neat! Clutch...check. Cables...check. Risers...check. Bearings...check. Mounts...check. Now, where is that "SHIFT" that was mentioned a few times some pages back? :cool:

Front,
I do declare that that pie mold has already been broken! At any rate, bring it on....I think a few of us have grown hungry in the past two years for something sweet.

SHIFTS are occuring within us and among as all of the time.....some on a minute level, some on a more monumental level......however, they are a happening. Have you been watchin'?

We are waiting with eager anticipation! Thanks for stoppin' by Front! Ya come Back now real soon,  ya hear! Looking forward to your next post of wisdom and wit! Oh, have I told you that you are oVer the top great?? I love it!

bearhug