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Other Odd Things / Re: Who is Raffles van Exel,really??
« on: July 25, 2013, 08:49:31 PM »
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If you stop the video at 1:50, he's right in the middle of the picture, behind Majestic looking like he IS part of the Jackson party.......
Edit, watching it again, it looks like he may be behind the tape.

I see you are as confused as me @ Faithad.  :icon_lol: Now all I need is for Thome to be spotted with him to add to the intrigue. 

Me??? Confused??? Why would I ever be confused??? Everything here is so straightforward and easy to understand/decipher!!!!!
LOL....... Confused as hell is more like it I would say.................










Speaking of Thome, there are blog where they say that to been seen with Raffles

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TMZ Articles / Re: DEBBIE ROWE To Testify About
« on: July 25, 2013, 08:42:51 PM »
Well, i opine when she make his statement

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He's not going to say anything :-[

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TMZ Articles / Re: Celine Dion Bigger Than Michael So Claims AEG
« on: July 25, 2013, 01:50:42 PM »
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     Oh come on. Was this added to the trial for comedic relief? Nothing against Celine, she has an amazing voice, but Michael is in a unique status of his own.  Hi Harvey...here's another fun fact. Michael may be ranked no 3 in record sales behind the Beatles and Elvis.....but  then he does own a S##t load of their music in his catalogs. Clever boy.




It is true, with all due respect that mercer Celine Dion as an artist I don't think that she will have the amount of fans that has MJ at the global level.


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Other Odd Things / Re: Who is Raffles van Exel,really??
« on: July 25, 2013, 10:33:14 AM »
A Vulture it seems that he is always in the middle of the tragedies when Whitney Houston died the also appeared, the last year was discussed about this dude

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: July 19, 2013, 10:00:26 PM »
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"When a mother loses a child," Mrs. Jackson said crying "that's the worse than can happen to a person."
:'(

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: July 19, 2013, 09:30:14 PM »
statement of Mrs. Jackson now

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: July 19, 2013, 10:45:45 AM »
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Michael Jackson wrongful death trial: Accountant under fire by defense
Wednesday, July 17, 2013


LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A former accountant for Michael Jackson was under fire by the AEG defense Wednesday during the Jackson family's wrongful death trial. He said that Jackson could have earned more than a billion dollars by touring until he was 66.

How long did Michael Jackson plan to work? Paris Jackson yawns, and then offers two opinions in a video deposition shown to the jury by the defense.

"He still had a lot of music that he was still working on but he kind of needed to relax," she said.

"So did your dad ever tell you he wasn't going to tour anymore after the 02?" Paris was asked.

"Yeah," she replied.

But later she was asked, "How did you understand it was a world tour?"

"Because he told us," she replied.

"What did he tell you?"

"That we were going around the world on tour," she said.

A worldwide tour or retirement? The star's potential earnings were debated in court. Katherine Jackson says she and her three grandchildren are entitled to damages if the jury finds AEG tour promoters liable for the actions of Conrad Murray, the doctor who caused Jackson's death.

AEG's defense asserts that the $1.5 billion figure projected by certified public accountant Arthur Erk is inflated. Erk testified that Jackson would likely work beyond his contract deal for 50 shows at London's O2 Arena and instead perform 260 shows, taking the show around the globe and selling out at every venue. But that's not all.

Defense attorney Sabrina Strong showed Erk's calculations for tours beyond that. That at age 56, Jackson would embark on four more world tours - a total of 455 shows - Jackson performing until he was 66 years old.

Strong questioned Erk: "Are you aware of any other artist doing five tours between age 50 and 66?"

"I did not consider that," Erk replied.

Strong also questioned Erk's numbers for what Jackson could make on endorsements for "This is It": $317 million. Erk testified that the estimate was based on the sellout of 50 concerts within hours.

AEG's defense team says that sponsors were wary of Jackson, who had been accused of criminal conduct and that as the show prepared to launch, the promoters did not have a single dollar in sponsorship or endorsements.

Jackson attorney Brian Panish reminded the jury that Jackson was acquitted of all charges, and like golfer Tiger Woods, could win back multi-million-dollar endorsement contracts.

About performing at age 66, Panish elicited examples of senior citizen stars Mick Jagger, age 69, and Barbara Streisand, age 71.

Meantime, Katherine Jackson is getting ready to testify this week in the wrongful death trial.

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Paris is tired .....or maybe bored :LolLolLolLol: !!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQzukDTeEI8&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

July 17th / Day 50

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP15 h
We're on the morning break in Jackson vs AEG Live case. A few updates coming...

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Before testimony began, the clerk outlined the rules for the courtroom and courthouse, saying no interviews should occur outside courtroom.

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Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos also called the attorneys into chambers and met with them before testimony resumed.

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When the judge took the bench, the attorneys addressed the time estimate of the trial. The jury inquired about it yesterday.

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AEG Live defense attorney Marvin Putnam said he’s going to try to wrap up his case by the end of August, assuming plaintiff’s rest this week

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Putnam said he’s weighing how much of a defense he needs to put up, and Palazuelos told him he needed to take as long as he needs.

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For the first half of September, there are only four days court is in session. Plaintiff’s lawyer Brian Panish noted that if the defense ...

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... estimate is off by a few days, then that would put the end of their case in mid-September.

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Palazuelos told the jury she expected the case to end in mid-September, which is later than some jurors thought they’d be here.

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Palazuelos: “Even though we’re going over a little bit, I don’t think it’s unreasonable.” She told juror to convey any concerns to the court

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AEG Live defense attorney Sabrina Strong continued her cross-examination of CPA Arthur Erk, who started testifying on Friday.

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Strong continued to challenge Erk’s projections of Michael Jackson’s earnings. She focused on estimates for endorsement deals.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
AEG Live defense attorney Sabrina Strong concluded her cross-examination of CPA Arthur Erk before the lunch break.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
A few more updates from the morning session in Jackson vs AEG Live coming up...

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Strong challenged all of Erk’s figures this morning, starting out with his endorsement projections. Erk stated his figures were conservative

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Erk projected that Jackson would get a $50 million clothing endorsement deal. Strong tried to get Erk to say that was pure speculation.

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Erk said it was his expectation that Jackson would get an endorsement deal based on his popularity in the 1980s, “This Is It” ticket sales.

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Strong also challenged Erk’s projection that Jackson would have gotten another endorsement deal worth $267 million.

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Erk based that figure on a calculation based off the reported $50 million value of a Beyonce/Pepsi endorsement deal.

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Beyonce’s reported deal _ Erk doesn’t know if the figures are right _ was the equivalent of 42% of her tour revenues.

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The accountant adjusted his figures for Jackson up based on his assumption that the singer would do a 260 show worldwide tour.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
Erk assumed that Jackson would get a “Pepsi-like” endorsement deal with several companies, but he’s not aware of any deals pending in 2009.

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Strong also pointed out that Erk’s numbers were gross figures, meaning that he calculated Jackson would receive the full $267 million.

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Using gross figures wouldn't account for any sharing of the deal’s profits with AEG Live or some other entity.

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In discussing the Beyonce deal, Strong brought up the child molestation trial and Beyonce’s squeaky clean image.

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The lawyer asked Erk whether he knew of any artist who got a sponsorship deal worth hundreds of millions of dollars who’d (cont) ...

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... been involved in a high-profile criminal trial. Erk said that he did not know of any artist who’d received such a big deal after a trial

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Strong also asked whether Erk’s merchandise estimates were overly-optimistic due to possible over-inflation of his ticket sales projections.

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Erk said he didn’t think he over-estimated the number of tickets that would be sold on a “This Is It” world tour.

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The accountant estimated that concert-goers would spend an average of $19 on MJ-merchandise at each concert.

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After a break, Strong asked Erk about his reliance on an AEG Live budget for his projections. He used a budget prepared on June 24, 2009.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
The AEG budget estimated Jackson would receive between $22 million and $30.7 million from the London “This Is It” shows.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
It appeared AEG estimated Jackson would also receive another $8 million in merchandise sales (The #s were small on the screen.)

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
Erk estimated Jackson would earn $452 million for worldwide concerts, another $121 million in merch and $317m for endorsements.

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The accountant said AEG prepared figures in 2008 showing that Jackson could earn $132 million for a worldwide tour.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
He said that was in a proposal to Colony Capital and was based on a tour of 186 concerts. This was before “TII” contract was signed.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
Erk said his projections were much higher than these figures because the success of “This Is It” ticket sales showed the demand for MJ shows

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
I've got to get back to court. There were a few more questions that Strong asked and she played a clip of Paris Jackson's deposition.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP13 h
I'l address those later. Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish will resume questioning after the lunch break.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP9h
We're done for the day in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Testimony will resume tomorrow at 10 a.m. PDT.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP9h
I've got a story coming shortly on today's testimony. Will get a few updates out soon after that.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP9h
Tomorrow's witnesses are expected to be videotaped testimony by Dr. Emery Brown in the morning, economist Peter Formuzis in the afternoon.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP9h
I won't be covering the trial tomorrow _ will be working Emmy nominations bright and early tomorrow. AP's Linda Deutsch will be covering.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP9h
During arguments on Dr. Brown's testimony, the judge asked AEG's attorneys whether they intend to call Conrad Murray.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP9h
"I have no intention of calling him," AEG Live defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam said when asked about calling Conrad Murray as a witness.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP8h
File shows promoter planned out worldwide tour for Michael Jackson in '08: Promoter plotted out worldwide tour for Jackson Estimate on earnings lower than expert's.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP8h
Story link I just posted comprises some of plaintiff's questioning of CPA Arthur Erk in Jackson vs AEG Live case.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP8h
The plans were used by both sides in court. AEG used them to show their projections were lower than the experts.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP8h
Jackson attorney Brian Panish used the tour plans to show AEG had plans for worldwide tour, similarities with their expert's opinions.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP8h
Folks, gotta sign off for a few hours (maybe the night.) Will be back on the Jackson case on Friday (if not sooner...)

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
Going to share a couple details from the judge's session this morning with attorneys Brian Panish and Marvin Putnam, per court transcript.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
Judge Yvette Palazuelos met with Panish and Putnam to address them yelling at each other in the courthouse hallway on Tuesday afternoon.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
According to the transcript, Palazuelos threatened the attorneys with sanctions, but didn't impose any.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
The judge did most of the talking, and Panish and Putnam apologized for shouting at each other.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
Palazuelos told both attorneys that she expected more of them, and stiff penalties could result if they had another outburst like Tuesday's.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
The judge warned Panish and Putnam that they could be sent to the court's presiding judge if there were issues outside her courtroom.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
Palazuelos made clear that she would handle decorum in her courtroom. She told the lawyers no more interviews outside her doors.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
From now on, Palazuelos said all interviews had to occur at the end of a hallway, or outside the courthouse.

Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP4h
The attorneys adhered to the new rules on interviews today. For now, sounds like no further action will happen unless there's another issue.


This Is It MOVIE or FILM........this is so confusing  :icon_geek:  :icon_rolleyes:  :judge-smiley: !!!!
Paris says that her father no longer wants to go touring,but next she speaks about going on tour around the world  :animal0017:  :icon_geek: ,cause he father told her so  :icon_question: Maybe Paris/MJ talks figurative,since This Is It has run worldwide   :icon_lol: !!!!







In body language the boredom and indifference are demonstrated by such gestures as the yawning or face resting on the hand or be in constant movement

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TMZ took this video of this forum :icon_question:

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: July 18, 2013, 08:11:11 PM »
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Michael Jackson wrongful death trial: Accountant under fire by defense
Wednesday, July 17, 2013


LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A former accountant for Michael Jackson was under fire by the AEG defense Wednesday during the Jackson family's wrongful death trial. He said that Jackson could have earned more than a billion dollars by touring until he was 66.

How long did Michael Jackson plan to work? Paris Jackson yawns, and then offers two opinions in a video deposition shown to the jury by the defense.

"He still had a lot of music that he was still working on but he kind of needed to relax," she said.

"So did your dad ever tell you he wasn't going to tour anymore after the 02?" Paris was asked.

"Yeah," she replied.

But later she was asked, "How did you understand it was a world tour?"

"Because he told us," she replied.

"What did he tell you?"

"That we were going around the world on tour," she said.

A worldwide tour or retirement? The star's potential earnings were debated in court. Katherine Jackson says she and her three grandchildren are entitled to damages if the jury finds AEG tour promoters liable for the actions of Conrad Murray, the doctor who caused Jackson's death.

AEG's defense asserts that the $1.5 billion figure projected by certified public accountant Arthur Erk is inflated. Erk testified that Jackson would likely work beyond his contract deal for 50 shows at London's O2 Arena and instead perform 260 shows, taking the show around the globe and selling out at every venue. But that's not all.

Defense attorney Sabrina Strong showed Erk's calculations for tours beyond that. That at age 56, Jackson would embark on four more world tours - a total of 455 shows - Jackson performing until he was 66 years old.

Strong questioned Erk: "Are you aware of any other artist doing five tours between age 50 and 66?"

"I did not consider that," Erk replied.

Strong also questioned Erk's numbers for what Jackson could make on endorsements for "This is It": $317 million. Erk testified that the estimate was based on the sellout of 50 concerts within hours.

AEG's defense team says that sponsors were wary of Jackson, who had been accused of criminal conduct and that as the show prepared to launch, the promoters did not have a single dollar in sponsorship or endorsements.

Jackson attorney Brian Panish reminded the jury that Jackson was acquitted of all charges, and like golfer Tiger Woods, could win back multi-million-dollar endorsement contracts.

About performing at age 66, Panish elicited examples of senior citizen stars Mick Jagger, age 69, and Barbara Streisand, age 71.

Meantime, Katherine Jackson is getting ready to testify this week in the wrongful death trial.

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Buttocks with scars.... all the day there is something new :-[

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: July 17, 2013, 08:55:38 PM »
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Bina talked about the day MJ died. Chase said she got Prince because  it was such a serious matter.

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Chase said she didn't think was going to make sense to stop what she was doing to out the house and look for security.


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After getting Prince, Chase returned to work. At some point, Chase and the housekeepers were told to leave the house.


ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23h
"We were asked to leave, the paramedics was still there," Chase said.


ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23h
Chase asked Alberto Alvarez, MJ's security guard, if MJ was ok? She said he told her he would be fine.


ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 23h
Alvarez asked Chase if she ever signed a confidentiality agreement. She said she had not, but Chase believes the housekeepers had.


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Alvarez asked Chase to sign something on the spot. "He asked me to sign some sort of a paragraph not on letterhead," Chase explained.


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Bina: Did it require you to keep things confidential?
Chase: It never said that


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Chase signed it but said she can't remember what it said. She then left the house. That was the last time she was at the Carolwood house.



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Someone to seen Douglas B. Jones. He was hired as a cook of Michael Jackson until May. Work 5 weeks and 2 weeks before the June 25 he was.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Famous Faces in 'FREE WILLY'
« on: July 17, 2013, 02:42:10 PM »
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Where the hell have 20 years gone?!?

 :over-react-smiley:

WHY??


the time is passing too fast

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: July 16, 2013, 09:11:57 PM »
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After session ended, attorneys for both sides had a heated exchange of words in the hallway when they were talking to media and fans.


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Both attorneys were shouting to each other, court clerk asked them to knock it off, called sheriffs.



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One thing is for sure, Paris is definitely aware of the dark side of the entertainment industry.





Of course she has a great teacher. :icon_rr:

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