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Michael Jackson News / Re: Another Neverland buyer
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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
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That was the end of Randy's deposition. Court adjourned until Monday at 10 am PT. AEG has not announced who the next witness is.

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A: I don't remember saying that, but that doesn't mean I didn't say it. I kind of felt that way at the time.

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Q: Do you recall telling Randy Phillips that you see that Michael was fortunate to have AEG involved in his return to the stage?

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Randy: I practically slept there to put the show together.

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Q: Did you have a positive experience with AEG?
A: Horrible! (laughs) No, I'm just joking. They were nice. They were very nice.

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Randy said he pushed everything to the side and was getting together this memorial for him and did it with AEG, Kenny Ortega and those guys.

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"I haven't even buried my brother yet," Randy said.

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Randy: We were still trying to figure out how to grieve, and these people are in court, and will, and this nonsense.

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Randy: After MJ died, everyone was shocked. I was really displeased with all the stuff that was going on in court with Branca, Weitzman.

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"Sometimes he would isolate himself because he didn't want people to hear his voice" Randy said.

Q: Because he might be using drugs?
A: Yes

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Q: Did you speak with him regularly?
A: I don't talk to anyone in my family regularly.

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Q: Was he doing it in the 5 years before his death? Isolated?
A: Oh, parts, parts of it.

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That was probably the first one, the first intervention, Randy said.

Q: Was MJ isolating himself?
A: Yeah, he would do that.

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Q: Did he seem he was using drugs at that time?
A: Yes, his speech was slurred, but nothing terrible.

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Randy said in Taiwan they visited him, gave him family love, wanted to make him feel comforted so he wouldn't think about doing those things

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Randy: I dind't know anything but we had heard things. That's why we were there.

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Randy said what spurred him to go to Taiwan was the fact that he needed help, he was far away, we said we need to go.

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Q: Did you go to Taiwan?
A: Yes, with Rebbie and some family members

MJ was doing shows in Taiwan.

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Randy talked about interventions in NY, Neverland, Las Vegas. And there was another intervention in Taiwan.

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After being turned down, Randy would then go home.

Q: After Carolwood, did you or father take any other action?
A: No, after that time no.

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They told Randy "he's not here, he's not there." Randy questioned if he wasn't there why they had the gate closed. "Open it up, no big deal"

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Q: Who did you see there?
A: Security guard.

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Randy: My dad and I tried to get the house at Carolwood. They wouldn't let me through. My brother didn't want me to see him like that.

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Q: Do you know if he slept well while on tour?
A: He slept well

Randy said MJ had no issues sleeping that he knew of.

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Randy: He was doing good in Ireland from what I recall. 06-7, 07-08 around that time.
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Randy said the last time Grace called was a long time ago. "I made my presence known, there wasn't lot more. She didn't need to call."

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Those were the only two times Randy saw him under the influence. "I'd get calls from Grace all the time," he said.

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Randy: He didn't know who to trust, because people around him were lying to him, telling him things just to secure their positions.

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He said MJ had slurry speech. "He was really frightened to go to that courtroom."

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Randy: Then I later found out she had gotten him a patch. I was livid.

Randy doesn't know what kind of patch it was.

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Randy said that when Grace was around MJ, he was under the some kind  of influence. "But we had him go to court and had the doctor with him"

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Q: Was he in the hospital because he had reaction to his drug use?
Randy: No. He was in the hospital because he didn't want to go to court.

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Randy: And I said "Okay, but you are going to court." He goes "No, I'm not."

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Randy: I went to hospital MJ said "I don't know what you're thinking. I'm not walking into that courtroom so don't even think about it Randy

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Randy: He didn't want to go to court. He didn't show up to court. And I was freaking out because it was on the news.

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Randy said MJ was really scared before the Santa Maria trial. And somehow Grace was able to get him something.

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Randy: He would get physical with me, I wouldn't be afraid to say no. But he was 90 pounds, it wouldn't do much.

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Randy: MJ didn't want to talk to me too much. Because maybe I wasn't afraid to say no to him.

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Randy: Did she ever believe he had a problem? Yeah, but I  think she was in denial, she didn't want to believe it.

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Randy: My mom, you know, she would mever want to believe it. She's a mom, you know. I felt bad for my her.

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The letter was MJ's idea, Randy said.

Q: Did you mom sign it?
A: My mom, LaToya, all my brothers.

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He said he wasn't behind the article, but didn't sign the letter. Janet, Rebbie and his dad didn't sign it either.

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Randy said MJ got people in his family to sign a letter that was on People Mag saying he never used drugs. "I was really disturbed by that."

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"I fired them both that's probably whay they said it," Randy opined. "It had nothing to do with me."

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Randy: Grace and actually Raymone Bain because I fired them both.

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Randy: There was a People Magazine article coming out talking about his drug use. Grace told him that I was behind putting this article out.

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Randy: He was using it again because there was a... it was quite disturbing to me.

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Q: Were all of the interventions were before the Santa Maria trial?
A: There was one after, the Vegas was after.

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Randy: I fired her again, I noticed when she was around there was a pattern. Whenever she's around, he's wasted. So I fired her again.

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Randy said he started right before Santa Maria trial but he got MJ clean. He told Rebbie "don't leave his side" because I didn't trust Grace

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"He was in a great place," Randy said. "Then Grace came back around and he started using it again. I was very pissed off about it."

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Randy said MJ would really, relaly enjoyed being around his children. He would cook for them.

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Randy: When I was helping with the situation in Santa Maria I was able to make it stop. I fired Grace, stoped it from coming in.

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Q: Could you give a range if years that this was happening?
A: It happened over a period of time, when I was, he stopped doing it also.

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Randy: Michael wouldn't want to really be around his family too much, I think because he didn't want us to see him that way, specially me

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Shadow Wood home was 50-thousand square feet. Randy said he hated it, it was just too big.

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Randy tried to jump the gate a few times. "My dad and I tried a few times to get him help."

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After Vegas, there were no more interventions, Randy said. "I tried to get him help but I couldn't get as many people to stage intervention"

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Randy didn't speak with MJ that day. He said people would tip MJ off. "So it's bad news. Randy's coming to shake things up."

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Q: What happened when you arrived at Neverland?
A: I think that time he wasn't there.

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Randy said Rebbie and Janet were always supportive, always with him. "My dad also."

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Katherine was at one intervention only, Randy said. "That must've been the first one, around 2002-2003, at Neverland.

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A: First one at Neverland, not the one that KJ was present. Janet, myself, Rebbie. Maybe my mom was at that one. I think my mom was there.

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Rebbie and Janet went on all of them, except one or two.

Q: Describe the 3-4 additional interventions:

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The 4-5 interventions at Neverland were between 2004-2006. "One of them included my mom," Randy said.

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Randy: No, my mon no. As a mom, I guess maybe it was hard for her, you know, for a mother to see that.

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Q: Did you get responses?
A: I think everyone was in shock, maybe a little denial. I always got responses, my dad, Rebbie and Janet, always
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He wrote the letter down on paper and had assistant copy it. He said not  everybody in his family looks at email.

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Q: Did you send it to your mother as well?
A: Everybody got a copy of it.

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Randy:  So this is where the family needs to step in and do something about it because their desire becomes physical.

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Randy: He's an addict, and at this point, addicts aren't so responsible for what they do.

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Q: Who did you send the letter to?
A: Everybody, copied everybody. I made sure everybody knew it.

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Randy wrote letters to my family about MJ's problem and that they had to do something to help.

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Randy said he was spending a lot of time with him, so he kind of got close look at what was going on.

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Finally out of twitter jail... Here's the rest of Randy Jackson's deposition.

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"There were a few over there. I don't know, maybe 4 or 5," Randy responded. It was around 2004, 2005. Or 2005-06.

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Interventions:
NY
Neverland
Las Vegas

Q: Were there any other?
A: It was more than one at Neverland.

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Q: You mentioned Grace would called but was getting him medication?
A: Yes. A few times I would meet her at the pharmacy.

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Randy: I staged several interventions and set up, tried to get him help many times.

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"I was just kind of taken aback by it, maybe," he said.

Q: Did you have concerns about MJ at that point?
A: Yes

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"He said he took it to help him sleep, and he said it was a mistake and that he was sorry about it," Randy testified.

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Randy asked MJ next day if he remembered what happened. He said MJ replied "no, no, but I heard."

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Next morning, Randy said MJ was sleeping pretty late. "I wanted to make sure he was ok, then I left," he said.

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Randy instructed one os the Cascios to sleep next to MJ. He stayed overnight as well.

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"Just let him rest it off. Somebody should sleep next to him, make sure he doesn't vomit or choke, anything like that," doc told Randy.

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Randy said the doctor gave MJ something that would counter, help counter whatever it is he had done.

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Randy: And as I recall, I called my doctor who lived literally around the corner. My doctor came over and took care of him, said he'll be ok

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Randy: They ran downstairs and told me that he had collapsed. And I went upstairs. I picked him up, put him on the bed, it was pretty late.

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A: I went downstairs, I think he had some friends over. And I went downstairs to eat something.

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Q: Did he tell you what he was taking specifically?
A: No

Q: Did you do anything else besides take it away?

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Randy said there wasn't much to talk to MJ then. "Yes, I could talk to him but I'd pick my moments. I'd wait till he'd be a bit more in tune

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Randy: Because what good would it be to help him if you're leaving stuff there?

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Q: You just looked around the house and took bottles?
A: I made her show where everything was.

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Randy said some prescription drugs were in Grace's name. "It was upsetting to me. I think she had a hard time saying no to him."

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Randy said he tried to take everything away, from Grace too. "It was ironic because she was giving it to him but complaining about it."

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A: He was certainly under the influence of something that was altering his normal way of functioning. I tried to get help him some help.

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Randy: We had discussed this before, so I kind of knew what was going on.

Q: And what did you see when you went over there?

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Grace called Randy again to come over. "She needed help with him. He wasn't doing so well."

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"I went over to help him out and take everything away as I could," Randy testified.

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Randy said his speech was slurred. Then Grace, his nanny, would tell me all the time, "You need to get over here. Something's not right."

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Randy said this was in 2005 at the Shadow Wood home in Beverly Hills. "He was under the influence of something."

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Other than the times Randy described in the last deposition, she said saw signs MJ was on prescription medications at home.

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Q: Did you ever see any signs he was on prescription meds on tour?
A: No.

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Randy said Michael enjoyed touring.
Q: Why do you say that?
A: Well, because we like to tour, perform.

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Second part of the deposition was taped on March 26, 2013.

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Q: From 2000 until the time that your brother passed were there periods you believed he didn't problem with prescription drugs?
A: Yes

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Randy said his brother didn't drink. "I never seen him drink alcohol."

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Randy had already selected a rehab facility to take MJ. It was in the Bay area, San Francisco. The same place were interventionist worked

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Randy said they were concerned about prescription abuse around the time MJ was living at the Carolwood house.

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Randy: Leonard Rowe was involved very much in the shows and was giving reports to me that he didn't look too good.

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Randy: There was a drug issue. He wasn't eating. All of these things were happening at the same time. And, you know, a lot of pressure.

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Randy said he and his father tried to call MJ while he lived at Carolwood home. "We were unsuccessful," he said.

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Q: Did your mother ever tell you she believed your brother had problem w/ prescription drugs?
A: No, no, she didn't tell me that believed

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"I told her that we need to plan an intervention and that, her being a mother, because she was there."

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Randy said he had a phone call with his mother, he initiated the conversation.

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That was after the second attempted intervention at Neverland, Randy testified, which was the same as the one his mother attended.

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Q: Did you ever discuss you believed your brother had a problem with prescription drugs with your mother?
A: Yes

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Q: Did he ever tell you he had a problem with prescription drugs?
A: No.

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Randy: Just excessive use, maybe, I don't know if I would call that an addict, I'm not a doctor.

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Q: Was he addicted?
A: I don't know, I wasn't sure, I wasn't clear on it.

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Randy said he forgot the doctors' names. He talked to doctor friends he knew about his concerns of MJ's prescription drug abuse.

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Randy: Also, as I recall, I tried calling a doctor in Vegas and a doctor in Florida, but they wouldn't talk to me about it.

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Randy didn't talk to MJ about it at this point. He talked to Rebbie. "I was investigating about it, talking to people around him."

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Q: What medicine?
A: Sedatives, whatever they call them, sedatives.

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"She just told me she was concerned," Randy described. "Because he was using prescription medication too much."

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"The first time was in Los Angeles, she called me," Randy said. It was around 2000, year 2000.

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Q: When did you first come to believe MJ had a prob with prescription drugs?
A: I guess it was Grace.

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Q: Did your brother ever discuss taking medication to sleep?
A: No

"I never got a call about illegal drugs," Randy explained.

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Randy said he never saw MJ take prescription drugs or illegal drugs. He never heard of propofol or diprivan prior to MJ's death.

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Randy did not know about MJ taking anesthesiologists on tour.

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"I went to visit him at the hospital," Randy said about MJ. He never discussed with MJ insomnia, sleeping problems.

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Q: Did MJ talk to you about his burned scalp?
A: Yes. He said it was painful.

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Randy learned DiLeo came back as MJ's while the O2 show was being put together.

Q: Was he a good manager?
A: Yes

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Randy said he went to visit Frank DiLeo in the hospital after he was in a coma. He knew DiLeo for 20-30 years.

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"I told him I wanted him to go to the therapist with me," Randy described. He said this was after Santa Maria trial, which took over things

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They were at the Ranch for 2/3 hours. Randy discussed with MJ the Ranch intervention after.

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"He just did it and got ready for the trial," Randy explained. MJ never discuss any drug problem with Randy ever.

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After the Las Vegas intervention, Randy said he watched MJ clean up. He was around, it was around Santa Maria trial.

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"My mom didn't believe it," Randy explained. "But it's my mom, she didn't want to believe it."

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Just leaving there all the brother talked about it, Randy said. Other family members didn't believe him either.

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Q: He also refused to go to rehab?
A: Yes

"I didn't believe him," Randy testified.

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Q: Believe your brother had problem with prescription drug?
A: Yes

Q: Did MJ deny he had a prob with prescription drugs?
A: Yes

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MJ didn't want to go to rehab that time either. The brothers stayed a few hours. It was just family, no doctors.

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Randy said he just walked in. One the brothers went over fence to open the gate

Q: Because security won't let you in?
A: Yes. We don't ask

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Q: Did you mom go?
A: I think so. Janet, Rebbie, no Marlon, not sure LaToya, no Jermaine, Tito maybe, Jackie

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Randy: I think my mom found out about the Grace.

"My family went with me," he said.

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Randy told siblings, Rebbie, brothers, Janet. They had another conference call. The parents were not on the call.

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Randy doesn't know how he cleaned up. The intervention at the Ranch occurred after NY. He got a call from Grace "You need to get down here."

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Randy: He stopped using these things, as fas as I know, he stopped using it. I learned it from Grace, pretty much Grace.

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Q: Did he clean up after LV intervention?
A: Yes

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Randy testified the brothers just talked to him. "Just tell him that his family loves him, concerned for him."

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Randy called Grace. "She told me that he cleaned up,"

Q: How?
A: Because I was there, probably.

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MJ didn't go to rehab, Randy didn't tell the parents, he said he didn't want to stress them out.

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Randy doesn't remember the details of the conversation, whether MJ admitted or not abusing prescription drugs.

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"He wouldn't go" Randy said about his attempt to take MJ to rehab.

Q: Did you tell him to go?
A: Yes
Q: Did he tell you he wouldn't?
A: Yes

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Randy went with family only to the NY intervention.

Q: Did he agreed to see you?
A: I guess, I just walked in.

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"You need to get down here," Randy said Grace told him. She didn't need to say anything else. "Because, my brother," Randy explained.

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Grace called him, he called the family, other family members, Rebbie, Tito, Janet, Randy said.

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Grace had called Randy each time. Janet, Rebbie and Tito were with Randy in NY. It happened in early to mid-2000.

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Randy believes the NY attempt happened prior to the Vegas time. He said he was worried about MJ, about "prescription," "prescription abuse."

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Besides Michael, just security was present.

Q: You mentioned another one in NY?
A: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy discussed with the doctors the attempted interventions. Randy did not speak with the doctors again after that.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said he told the doctor there had been prior attempts to get MJ help and they weren't successful, needed professional help.

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Randy discussed MJ's stint in rehab before with the singer. Randy said he thinks it was one time that MJ was in rehab.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
He said he wanted to know just what they do and what is the procedure here, what they suggest.

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Randy said he met the interventionist doctor at Madeo for lunch, probably met doctor one time prior as well.

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They talked to MJ while there, Randy said. He doesn't rememeber specifically what was said, but that the family loved him, wanted to help.

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Q: Besides siblings and the doctor was there somebody else who went?
A: I don't recall who the 2nd guy was. I didn't arrange it, Janet knew

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Q: Had you met him before?
A: No. Internet, maybe

Q: Was this Mr. Webb?
A: No. I don't recall

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"He was an experienced interventionist," Randy testified.

Q: How did you know that?
A: He told me

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Randy said he doesn't know if the parents talked to MJ. Randy and Janet had a doctor in the mix for the Vegas intervention.

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Q: Did you ever discuss that with your parents?
A: Yes
Q Their reaction?
A: Displeased
Q: With?
A: Him not getting the help that he needed.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy: No, let me correct that. Initially we were playing on our tour, the brothers tour. There was concern then.

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Randy said Leonard Rowe told him MJ may have prob w/ prescription drug. He guessed it was around time shows in London were being prepared

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Q: Up until the time of his passing you never discussed it with him again?
A: No
Q: Why not?
A: I hadn't gotten call from Grace or anyone

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
"It was just around the Santa Maria trial," Randy said. "It was after, I think."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: When was next discussion?
A: That may have been the last time, maybe. There were prior times.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Did you leave thinking he had a prob?
A: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said MJ told him 'Don't worry, I'm okay. I'm not gonna go.'

Q: Did he seem ok?
A: At the time yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Did he say whether or not he had a problem with prescription drugs at that time?
A: No. No he didn't say it
They were with MJ for 2 hours

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Did he deny he had a problem with prescription drugs at that time?
A: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
MJ didn't go to rehab. Randy said the other siblings told MJ the same thing, to go to rehab.

Q: Did he admit having a problem?
A: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Did you see MJ?
A: Yes. I told him him I was taking him to rehab," Randy said. "He said he was not going. I said you are, he said I'm not

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said security told him MJ didn't want to see him. Just drive in and walked in the house. The gate was open, I just drove in walked in.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy confronted MJ every time Grace called him.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Grace called Randy before about MJ using prescription drugs. He said she called him two or 3 times before.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Have you ever believed MJ was abusing prescription drugs before?
A: Yes.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said he spoken with Grace, the other siblings spoke with her too. "We may have had a conference call."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
MJ was staying in Vegas. Randy said he went there with Jackie, Rebbie, maybe Janet, maybe Marlon.
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said it was around the time of the trial, doesn't know if before or after, not sure.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
"Because I had received call that he had been abusing prescription drugs," Randy said. Grace called him, he's sure if she called anyone else

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
MJ's brother said one intervention was in Vegas, then in NY then LA. Randy remembered 3 times and intervention being attempted.

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"I wanted to make sure he was ok," Randy testified.

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Q: Your brother didn't want to see you and you went to see him?
A: Yes
Q: Couple occasions?
A: Yes, 3 or 4 times

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There was a time he was the manager, then not manager, then manager again, Randy said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said Frank DiLeo was MJ's manager. "From what I understand until my brother passed," he explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Did you call him in 2009?
A: I don't remember
Q: Did you see him in 2009?
A: I don't remember

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said he doesn't remember when it was the last time he spoke with MJ. He said MJ was traveling.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
The attorneys stipulated the firing occurred in 2004/2005.

Randy said he and Michael were pretty close, since they were close in age.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Q: Why?
A: Because he asked me to.
Q: Your brother Michael did?
A: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
First deposition was on Nov 6, 2012.

Q: Do you know Grace Rwamba?
A:Yes, and fired her too.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Jessica Stebbins Bina said AEG is calling Randy Jackson via video deposition.

Q- Question (by an attorney)
A- Answer (by Randy Jackson)

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Back in session...

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Everyone still in the hallway waiting. Fans, reporters and many lawyers on stand by.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
@LovesTheMessage And we hope to get copy of his video deposition prior to our newscast this afternoon. ;-)

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
@TheMJAP She testified Branca presented himself as such. The official appointment had to be sanctioned by the probate court.
 
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
@dizzydianajo1 Hi Diane, I have to remain impartial. Both sides have different explanation for the jurors to clap. ;)
 
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@NenehJackson I'll try! It's hard when you want to tweet all the details...
 
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We'll bring you complete coverage of this afternoon's session as soon as we are able to tweet. Remember, per judge, no live tweets.

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AEG claims Randy doesn't want to come testify in person; Jacksons say AEG doesn't want him to come in person. What do you think is true?

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
The other witness scheduled is Randy Jackson, also via video deposition.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Another Neverland buyer
« on: August 12, 2013, 06:48:38 PM »
the one that want to have a little privacy does not do this

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Another Neverland buyer
« on: August 12, 2013, 06:41:41 PM »
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No apologies here.  I stand by my statement :icon_neutral:

Truth is truth whether it's pleasant to hear or not.


Celebritys are who they are in part due to their fans.

When they cease to respect those fans, they are no longer worthy of the stardom they enjoy.

There's an old saying "fame makes you who you really are". 



JB lost my respect when he began to disrespect his fans. :icon_evil:


JB is a troubled young man and I hope he gets help.


Neverland was always Michaels vision...it should definitely remain in his families possession!





disgust!! And them happy :icon_e_confused:

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 08, 2013, 09:14:56 PM »
ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Putnam: Would it be surprising to you that the Rolling Stones have a doctor on tour with them right now?
Ortega: No.

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Ortega said nobody came up to him on the 23rd or 24th expressing concern about MJ. They did on the 19th but not after MJ came back on 23rd.

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The week of June 15th is when Ortega grew concerned with Michael Jackson.

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Putnam: Did you see Michael deteriorate over 8 weeks?
Ortega: I would've not used the word deteriorate to describe what I saw.

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"However, the sell out at the O2 for 50 shows showed he still had drawing power," Ortega opined.

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Putnam did re-cross.

Ortega: Michael had not performed in 10 years. Whether he'd command the world like he had before remained to be seen.

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Ortega said he never told Faye MJ had to face his fears; used the word tough love, may have said the show could be cancelled if not ready.

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Katherine Jackson nodded in the audience in agreement. "In respect of why we are all here for, that's not nice," Ortega said on the stand.

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Ortega then opined: If Michael ever heard you talk like that it would not be appropriate. Isn't that right Mrs. Jackson?

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Panish: Did you heard Murray walked out and said he couldn't take this s**t anymore?
Ortega: No, I never heard that.

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Panish asked if Ortega knew how much pressure AEG was putting MJ and Dr. Murray on. He said no.

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Panish: Did you ever learn that Phillips was grabbing Dr. Murray's arm?
Ortega: I never heard that.
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Phillips didn't do anything to stop Dr. Murray's admonishment of Ortega in the meeting, Panish said. Ortega agreed.

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Ortega said Dr. Murray did not have the same mindset as him in the June 20th meeting.

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Panish asked if Ortega was doing his job when he sent email w/ concerns. "More than just doing my job, looking out for my friend" he said.

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Panish: You expect AEG to check them out, not being under conflict of interest situation?
Ortega: Yes.

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Panish: I want you to assume that AEG Live hired Dr. Murray. Would you expect them to hire a fit and competent doctor?
Ortega: Yes.

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"Eventually he started to decline and disappear," Ortega recalled.

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Ortega: MJ was very cool, bold, strong in his ideas and what he wanted all through the beginning of the process.

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Panish: Did you think MJ was irresponsible?
Ortega: It seemed to me that he was in trouble.

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Ortega suggested another physician, not Murray, come to check MJ out.

Panish: You didn't think Dr Murray was doing a good job?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Did you say that after MJ died?
Ortega: No, I think I'd have said it sooner than that.

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Panish: Sir, did you tell anyone that MJ should've been taken to the hospital?
Ortega: I might have.

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Panish: Did you have concerns about his physical condition on June 14?
Ortega: I'd say yes.

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"It was fairly obvious he was not moving forward in the rehearsals with this sort of tempo," Ortega testified.

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Ortega said he didn't see MJ at practice for a long period of time in June.

Panish: In June, he didn't show at all?
Ortega: That's correct

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Ortega: Most of us have never seen anyone work as hard to accomplish something as MJ.

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Panish: Was MJ perfectionist?
Ortega: That would be something that people would have called him.

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"Yes, he did change over time," Ortega said about Michael Jackson.

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Panish: Did you ever have assistant producer say she was afraid an artist would die in weeks of a show and they actually did die?
Ortega: No

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Ortega said he disagrees with anyone who says there's no way MJ could've done 50 shows.

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"He sold 50 shows," Ortega said. "Pretty awesome, historical."

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Ortega: I think the Stones come close, McCartney come close. But if MJ was not the number one, he was very close.

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Ortega: I'd think if done right, that Michael would be the highest draw on the planet. Panish: You don't think Celine Dion would be bigger?

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Panish: Are you aware of any artist in the world with the drawing power of Michael Jackson?

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Email from Gongaware to Ortega on March 25, 2009:
I'm afraid we may not be able to meet your financial requirements for a deal.

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Ortega said, at one point, there was a standstill regarding his contract.

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Earlier in the trial, Ortega testified rehearsal schedule and attendance was up to Dr. Murray and Randy Phillips.

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"I recalled that Dr. Murray was going to be responsible for the schedule," Ortega said.

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Email from Woolley to Bob Taylor saying Randy Phillips and Dr. Murray were responsible for MJ rehearsal and attendance schedule.

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Panish: Did you think you were not being demanding enough of MJ's attendance and schedule?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Have you ever seen a situation where a CEO for promoter/producer set rehearse schedule with artist's doctor?
Ortega: No

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Panish: Have you seen a CEO for promoter/producer involved in artist rehearse attendance/schedule?
Ortega: CEO no, producers/promoters yes.

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Panish: Were you ever involved in a show where promoter was buying saline, catheter, needles for a doctor?
Ortega: No.

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Panish: Were you ever involved in a show where promoter was buying CPR machine?
Ortega: Not that I know of.

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"I don't think producers can fire Cher," Ortega said.

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"I don't think producers can fire Tom Cruise," Ortega opined. Panish said movies are different from singers.

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"I assume they could give a good try," Ortega responded. "I assume they could do that but I doubt it would last more than 24 hours."

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Panish: The producer could fire you if they wanted, right?
Ortega: I think Michael would not be happy with that.

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Panish asked if MJ could've been fired by AEG. "No, he was a partner," Ortega responded. He said Michael told him that.

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Ortega clarifies that the only artist, "the" artist, was Michael Jackson.

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Ortega said he thinks it's unusual for producers to engage attorneys to hire a doctor for an artist.

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Panish: In all your years in the industry, have you ever heard a producer involved in hiring a doctor for an artist?
Ortega: I haven't.

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Ortega: It seemed like it was doctor related, so it wasn't like taking drugs but just being under the influence.

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Panish asked is Ortega saw MJ several times appearing under some kind of drugs during TII.

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Ortega: I assumed sleep had to be a part of it, he looked rested.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Panish asked Ortega to assume MJ was getting Propofol for 60 days then didn't have Propofol the last few days before his death.

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Panish: The symptoms he had, did it seem like someone who wasn't sleeping?
Ortega: I think that might have been a factor there.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Panish: And before that you thought he was not having any sleep?
Ortega: Yes.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
In re-direct, Panish asked: Prior to June 23rd, you thought Michael got real organic sleep?
Ortega: Yes.

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Ortega said said excitement was pretty unanimous among all the people working on "This Is It."

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Putnam: Did you have concern on the 23rd or 24th he was taking drugs?
Ortega: No.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Ortega felt less excited, deeply grateful about MJ's come back.

"Maybe it was a lot of rest," Ortega opined. "He did seem rested, stronger"

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
MJ also rehearsed and performed. Ortega said he was feeling they were back on track, believing they were in a new chapter.
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Ortega said MJ was almost as good on the 24th as the 23rd. He seemed a little tired from the day before but talked about things for the show

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Ortega: Everybody felt there was a different Michael in the room.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Ortega said he just embraced it and went with it. "We were all delighted" Ortega recalled. "The energy in the room changed, hope returned"

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1h
Ortega: He was in charge. Not only capable to rehearsing but to talk about other aspects of production, like films, the effects, costumes.

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MJ was there a number of hours, Ortega said. He went thru a number of songs.

Putnam: Had he taken the reins?
Ortega: Yeah

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: How was the rehearsal?
Ortega: Great. It was one of the best rehearsals we had up until then.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"It was like metamorphosis," he said.

Putnam asked if Ortega inquired MJ what had happened. "I din't pry in his personal live," he replied

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said MJ was always a little chill, but not like on the 19th. The director was surprised how quickly MJ got better.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega: He seemed healthy, ready and happy, there didn't seem to be any left over issues from the 19th.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: Completely different?
Ortega: Completely

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said the meeting on June 20th was at MJ's Carolwood home. On June 23rd, Ortega testified MJ was in great spirits, ready to work.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega: He was unbelievable! His reasons for doing the tour were incredible. He was motivated.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"He seemed exhilarated, excited, like the Michael I always knew," Ortega described.

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Ortega: I think the arrival of his children in his life brought something he didn't have before.

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Ortega: I was happy for him, because he had been through so much, I wanted him to be the King again.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"Michael wanted to get out on the road," Ortega said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"I think seating in a theater for 5 years in Las Vegas wasn't really attractive to him," Ortega explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said MJ was being approached by someone from American Idol, also Randy Phillips approached him, they wanted to do something with him.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
The director described MJ very excited, even not knowing yet what "TII" was going to be, but feeling exhilarated.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said he had dinner with MJ a couple of times, MJ took his children to see High School Musical, and that he looked fined.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: Were you concerned MJ was doing drugs before "TII" in 2008?
Ortega: No, I saw him.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: Did you have any concern with MJ's health?
Ortega: I don't recall having any concerns
P: How about mentally?
O: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"HIStory" tour rehearsal was done in Los Angeles, Ortega said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
MJ was transported to the hospital. Ortega didn't go, because he said he wasn't invited. "Certainly concerned," though, he explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
He said security responded quickly, everybody stayed away to give paramedics room to work.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega was present at Beacon Theater when MJ collapsed. He didn't see the artist fall, though.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: But at no time you thought he was using drugs?
Ortega: No.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: Was he physical well?
Ortega: He seemed tired and unhappy, stressed.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega was called to help MJ with the HBO special.

Putnam: He seemed well to you?
Ortega: Unhappy

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
At this time, MJ was living at Neverland. Ortega said they never rehearsed at MJ's ranch, but a stage in Los Angeles.

Putnam: Did you have any concerns he might have been using drugs then?
Ortega: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said he usually likes to stay in tour until everything is working to everybody's satisfaction. He said it may be 4-5 shows or 8-10

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega's first time working with MJ was in the "Dangerous" tour. He said he may have been director of the project. It was in 1992-93. ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"He was strong," Ortega said.

But 20 years later, when Ortega worked with MJ in the "This Is It," the director said MJ was much different.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: In your opinion, was Mr. Jackson always skinny?
Ortega: In the early years I worked with him he was light, lean performer.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"I might have been a little concerned (with his weight) when I brought that up, yes," Ortega testified.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said MJ liked to be in a certain kind of place (weight) to execute his moves and to get the look he wanted.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
The singer would smile and answer "okay" in a very loving way, Ortega recalled.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
MJ wasn't really fond of massage, Ortega said. "Don't forget to eat, get some rest," Ortega would tell MJ.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said he would talk to MJ, as a performing artist, and ask if he was focusing on nourishment, health, warming up, stretching, sleeping

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Putnam: Did you ever talk to him about nutrition?
Ortega: As a general idea
P: Physical therapy?
O: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
"Because he came out of rehab," Ortega said. "He was moving on with his life in a healthy way, hopefully."

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Putnam: Did you have any reservation to work with him after rehab?
Ortega: No
P: Why not?

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega never asked MJ about his rehab stint or any drug use.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Someone on behalf of Michael Jackson contacted Ortega to be part of the HBO special.

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Putnam: Were you responsible for MJ's health?
Ortega: No.

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Ortega: I wanted to take care on him, you want to take care of someone when something is not right, but you can't be responsible.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Jurors were writing viguroulsy at this point. Juror number 6 looked over at Katherine Jackson.

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Ortega: I didn't think he was being very responsible, but it was his responsibility, in my opinion.

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Putnam: Do you think MJ was being responsible with his own health?

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"Adults are responsible for their own health," Ortega opined.
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Ortega: I worked with 10,000 people in the Olympics, how can I be responsible for everybody's health?

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Putnam: Did he (Murray) offer any explanation of what happened to MJ the night before?
Ortega: I don't believe so.

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Putnam: Did you talk about drugs in that meeting?
Ortega: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 2h
Ortega said Michael explained in the meeting that what Dr. Murray said was not what had occurred.
Abrir
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Ortega: I'd like to think that Michael would not set me up that way, I'd like to think Dr. Murray misunderstood Michael.

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Ortega said Dr. Murray told him to be the director and to quit his concerns with Michael Jackson's health because it was not his job.

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Ortega: I did think it was right he didn't rehearse that night, I did think it was the right thing he went home.

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Ortega said, at one point, MJ told him he was going home. "I said yes, go home, tuck your children in, feel better," Ortega described.

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Ortega: I looked at Michael and asked him to tell what had happened, that I didn't forbid Michael of anything.

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Ortega testified he said: 'Wait a minute, that's not at all what happened.' The director recalled Dr. Murray said MJ told him that.

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Ortega: Murray started up saying I had no right to not allow Michael to rehearse that night and that I had no right to send him home.

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Ortega: He said don't leave me, I'm gonna take the reins, you'll see I'm going to change this. He seemed absolutely committed at that point.

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Putnam: MJ assured you that he was fine?
Ortega: I didn't feel assured

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Dr. Murray told Ortega to quit being an amateur doctor and that MJ was physically fit to show, the director recalled.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
At the meeting, Dr. Murray told Ortega to stay out of it and to leave MJ's health for him to take care.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he thought it was a responsible way to deal with it, and pretty immediate after the fact.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
There was a meeting scheduled next day to address MJ's problems on June 19.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega sent an email after seeing MJ that way because he thought Phillips and Gongaware should know about it.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: You have never seen Mr. Jackson like that before?
Ortega: No.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: It never crossed your mind it could be drug related?
Ortega: No, I was thinking it was something else.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: It didn't appear to me it was drugs, it appeared to me it was something else, emotional.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"I felt somewhat calm when we left," Ortega said. But he said he was still concerned, thus the email he sent to AEG high ups.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: He was coherent?
Ortega: Yes
P: Warmed up?
O: A bit
P: More engaged?
O: Yes
P: Calm?
O: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam asked if throughout the night on June 19th, if MJ got better. Ortega said yes.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"I supposed I might have suggested it could look that way," Ortega said. "It would've been a really, really bad flu."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam asked if Ortega testified before he thought MJ had a really bad case of flu.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam asked about June 19, 2009. "I'll always remember June 19," Ortega said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: I think they were trying to create a schedule to factor in all of Michael's needs (like family) and still could come to rehearsal.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: In this stage of the game, Mr. Phillips took on overseeing position to make sure the schedule was responsible for Michael.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"I looked at Mr. Phillips as the promoter, Michael's promoter and producing partner," Ortega testified.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he never spoke with Timm Wooley about scheduling.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
He explained he didn't think Phillips was involved as much in MJ's scheduling, but was overseeing it.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he learned from Randy Phillips that Dr. Murray was responsible to get MJ to rehearsals on June 15, 2009.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: But at the end, I believe they thought Michael had what he wanted.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: I think we were getting in a place were we had a ceiling, because we were already with a fat budget.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
He said there were professional discussions like 'is this something you really feel it's going to benefit,' 'do you really need this.'

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he would ask Gongaware for more and more things to create the show. Gongaware never denied anything.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: Everything we brought to AEG, in terms of enormous creative needs, that AEG was very supportive in doing all they could.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: Did you ever see AEG pressure Michael in any way?
Ortega: No

Putnam: Did you feel AEG Live supported MJ?
Ortega: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega: I thought of MJ as my partner, I didn't think of him as my boss. But MJ always had the final creative say in all the years we worked

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: Who did you consider your boss?
Ortega: Michael.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"A lot meaning 3-4 times a week," Ortega clarified. He said things changed as they were moving to the Forum, which was end of May.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said February, March and April MJ was very involved in the creation of the show, would show up a lot.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"At the end of the day, creatively, we trusted Michael knew what we needed," Ortega said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: Why?
Ortega: Because he was brilliant and he knew what he was doing.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"Final say would be Michael," Ortega said. "Michael had final creative say."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"He would just make it happen," Ortega said. He could not recall Gongaware denying anything.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"I'd go and say 'this is what we'd like,'" Ortega said.

Putnam: Did he ever tell you you couldn't get something?
Ortega: No.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"We talked about these things together and I'd go with Michael's blessing to Paul to begin the process," Ortega explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"Because the creative person was Michael, and myself," Ortega explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega did not discuss with Gongaware anything related to creative matters.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega would discuss with Michael about hiring someone and the director would go to Gongaware to get the contract drawn and the person hired

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega explained he dealt with Gongaware regarding technical things, like moving dates to new rehearsal venue, delivery of stage parts, etc.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he reported to Michael Jackson for the creative side of the tour and regarding budget/financial matters he reported to Gongaware
Abrir
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Ortega said AEG Live and MJ were co-producers of the show.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Regardless of who contacted him first, Ortega said he was hired because Michael Jackson wanted him.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega testified he never really fully understand Dr. Tohme's role related to MJ. He thought was a friend.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he didn't really know who Dr. Tohme was, have never met the guy at that point. Tohme said he called on behalf of MJ.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: Do you remember as you sit here today who first contacted you?
Ortega: I'm not really certain.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
In Dr. Murray's criminal trial, Ortega said it was Paul Gongaware.
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
In a deposition related to Lloyds of London litigation, Ortega also said Dr. Tohme first reached out to him regarding TII.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam showed Ortega's deposition transcript. "In deposition, I remember it to be Dr. Tohme," Ortega said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Ortega said he doesn't remember who he said reached out to him first regarding the tour in his deposition.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: Is it fair to say you were the "TII" director because of MJ?
Ortega: Yes.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"He told me he only wanted me," Ortega said about Michael Jackson's wished that he be the director.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
"People were calling it a tour but it was more like an event," Ortega explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 5h
Putnam: Did you consider it a tour?
Ortega: We called it tour, term used in the industry, but we weren't really touring, it was 1 venue.
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Ortega went thru all the pages of his contract and said: "I do not see that anywhere."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Putnam read Murray's contract were it says the contract is not valid unless MJ consented to it and asked if Ortega has that in his contract.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Ortega: That's what I understand it's in my contract

Ortega's contract does not have a signature line for Michael Jackson.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Putnam: If tour was successful, you already have in your agreement what you'd be paid in bonus, correct?

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
"The shows were not booked or guaranteed," Ortega said. "That's what I think Michael hoped to do, but wasn't booked."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
In Ortega's contract, there is a provision for bonus in case "This Is It" tour went around the world.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
"I can recall specifically, but I'm sure in my 40-something years in this business that has occurred," Ortega testified.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
"It's sort of common in the industry," Ortega said.

Putnam: If you don't reach an agreement, you could work and not get paid?
Ortega: Yes

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Ortega said he has put himself in the position of working prior to signing a contract. "It's what I call working in good faith."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Putnam: You were paid after the contract was executed, right?
Ortega: That's what appears in this document.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Ortega looked at the document and said he was paid on May 11, 2009, which is after he signed his contract.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
In his deposition, Ortega was shown documents to refresh his recollection. Putnam showed him the same documents.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Ortega's contract was executed on April 26, 2009. "I believe I was paid in advance of signing," Ortega said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
"I was only contracted, and we were only focused, on the London tour at this time," Ortega explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Putnam: Did you understand you were an employee of AEG Live?
Ortega: No
P: What were you employee of?
O: K.O. Company

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
AEG Live had an agreement with K.O. Company for the services of Ortega.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Putnam showed Ortega a "Certificate of Employment -- Loan-Out," which Ortega said it's certificate that he works for The K.O. Company, Inc.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Ortega is under cross examination by AEG's attorney Marvin Putnam. Ortega had professional engagement overseas, not available until today.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Judge said they are bringing Kenny Ortega back on the stand out of order to finish his testimony.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Outside the presence of the jury, AEG attorney told judge he will be done 1st week of Sept or so. Panish said he has 4 rebuttal witnesses.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
"It is what it is," judge said. She told jurors before they would get the case at the end of August.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 6h
Judge: My estimate has now changed. The case will probably be submitted to you at the end of September.

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Help at the expense of his own reputation in something so delicate, i see no sense

52
Other Odd Things / Re: Four years later, how do you feel?
« on: August 08, 2013, 10:38:42 AM »
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Hoax? What hoax? All we have is continuing stories of drug addiction and child molestation. What a legacy. Weeeeeeeeeeee.



This is the only thing we hear

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 07, 2013, 08:44:18 PM »
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Some thoughts about yesterday testimony:

Murray and Michael were set to go to London on July 3rd 2009.

Murray contract stated he had to have an UK medical license by July 3rd, if not he wouldn't be paid.

Murray contract had to be signed by Michael to be executed.

Murray received the contract at Jun 23 and sent it back signed at Jun 24, but Michael didn't signed.


Now in 8 days Murray had to get UK medical license. It is said to get a medical license it takes at least 3 months.


From GMC(UK






















Since Murray is from Trinidad he would need to take the English exam























At UK there are two steps to get the license, one is the registration the the other is the licensing, both are mandatory to treat patients








































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on top of that he would need to take an exam or two.

So 8 days before his deadline he didn't do anything to get the license.

It seems like Murray knew he wouldn't be going to London.


Another point is Michael's signature or the absence of it. If Murray was at Michael's house Jun 23 and Jun 24, why didn't he ask Michael to sign it before he faxed to AEG?

Murray signed and faxed to AEG for AEG to get Michael signature. Does it make sense?

And knowing that he wouldn't get paid if Michael didn't sign it.

Well, just a few facts to think about it.


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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 07, 2013, 08:34:14 PM »
Secrets of the Michael Jackson Trial

Drugs, ghosts, violence and much more, as testimony rolls into its fourth month




By Steve Knopper

August 2, 2013 2:00 PM ET

 

Eamonn McCormack/WireImage
 
The Jackson family's lawsuit against AEG Live, the promoter that planned Michael Jackson's London comeback concerts at the O2 Arena in London, is serious business. Michael's mother, Katherine, seeks billions of dollars in damages, arguing that AEG negligently hired Dr. Conrad Murray, who was convicted of giving the insomniac Jackson a drug combination including the anesthetic propofol, which caused him to die in his sleep. AEG denies responsibility. The months-long trial has been full of strange details – here are the strangest.

His promoter was a bully
To motivate a recalcitrant Jackson before the London press conference announcing the This Is It shows, AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips (according to an e-mail he sent a colleague), "slapped him and screamed at him." Phillips testified that he was acting like a coach: "I slapped him on the butt."

His kids' nanny was really weird
According to Paris Jackson's testimony, Grace Rwaramba, former nanny to Jackson's kids, would call hotels, tell staff she was his wife and be admitted to his room, where she would slip into the star's bed. "She was obsessed with him," Paris said.

He probably went longer without REM sleep than any human ever
A Harvard Medical School sleep expert, Dr. Charles Czeisler (who has also worked with the CIA and the Rolling Stones), testified that the 60 straight nights Jackson spent on propofol resulted in a "constellation of symptoms" including paranoia, erratic behavior and severe weight loss.

100 Greatest Artists: Michael Jackson

Violence and threats were common in Jackson's world
Jackson's makeup artist Karen Faye testified that once, before a concert in 1993, the singer became ill and she encouraged him to bail on the show. She claims that a doctor provided by the tour's insurance company choked her until she couldn't breathe and said, "You don't know what you're up against."

He really did have a rodent for a childhood friend
Echoing his song "Ben," Katherine testified that, as a boy, Michael once smuggled a mouse into a Beverly Hills restaurant in his coat pocket.

According to Lionel Richie's ex, his ghost has no problem with Dr. Murray
While on the stand, AEG Live's Phillips recalled a conversation he had with Lionel Richie's ex-wife Brenda. Jackson's ghost, Phillips testified, told her the superstar had "accidentally killed himself" and absolved Murray of responsibility. A Jackson family attorney objected, but the judge let the testimony stand.

This story is from the August 15th, 2013 issue of Rolling Stone.



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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 07, 2013, 08:27:14 PM »
Revealed: Concert Promoter AEG Considering Call To DA Who Landed Conviction Against Michael Jackson’s Death Doc

Lawyers for AEG are considering calling one of the district attorneys that successfully prosecuted Conrad Murray as possible witnesses in the wrongful death trial of Michael Jackson, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting

Katherine Jackson is suing the concert promoter alleging that AEG failed to properly investigate and supervise Michael’s one-time doctor, Murray. Murray was convicted two years ago for the involuntary manslaughter death of the King of Pop.

The concert promoter “doesn’t want to put Conrad Murray on the stand for several reasons. First, Murray is a sanctimonious and arrogant, he will make the testimony all about him. He would likely be unwilling to answer the most important questions, and invoke the fifth amendment because he is appealing the conviction,” a source told Radar.

“Secondly, Murray would use the appearance to possibly promote a book/overseas tabloid interview he is planning upon his release from jail.”

The source added, “For those reasons, and more, AEG lawyer, Marvin Putnam, has been in contact with former Los Angeles County District Attorney, David Walgren, who is now a judge, and current prosecutor, Deborah Brazil, whom both handled Murray’s case.

“Both are agreeable to appearing and testifying. AEG needs to present a witness to the jury that can explain Murray’s role in Michael’s death. It’s AEG’s position that no one could have known that Murray was giving Michael a Propofol at night to sleep.”

The decision will be made “in the next several days about if one or both of them (Walgren/Brazil), will be called to testify,” the insider revealed.

“They would both be very compelling witnesses for AEG and the jury would be very impressed with their knowledge and professionalism of the criminal case.”

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 06, 2013, 09:02:05 PM »


ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 1min
Upcoming Witnesses:
Kathy Jorrie -- tomorrow
Kenny Ortega
Debbie Rowe

Judge said Ortega all day Thursday & Friday. Rowe next week

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 02, 2013, 11:21:09 AM »

 

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 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: MJ saw me and said Mike! Came running to me, gave me a big hug. He asked if they could talk, I took him to a private room.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said he saw MJ about 2 weeks prior to his death. He was working for Janet, she threw a party for their parents at a restaurant.
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said he never thought of selling his story to the tabloids.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"I was mad, but not mad at him," LaPerruque said. "Because of what I heard why we stopped working together." (financial reasons)

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque retained an attorney to speak with MJ's reps to enforce agreement they had. They settled.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said he tried calling MJ several times about getting paid but never heard back.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
MJ then moved to Las Vegas. He spoke with Raymone Bain, who said MJ had moved. He never heard from anyone about working again.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
This was in November 2007. He still didn't get paid.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque spoke with MJ. "He said he was very embarrassed not being able to pay me, he said he was going to make it right, apologized."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
He stopped in the beginning of 2008. Work began in August of 2007, got paid in September and didn't get paid anymore until 2008.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"The production company wasn't paying me for my services," LaPerruque testified.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said he stopped working for MJ due to financial difficulties. "I wasn't getting paid," LaPerruque explained.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said he did not have any concern with MJ being under the influence of prescription drug in 2007.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
The security head never told AEG about any of the concerns he had with Michael Jackson.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said he seemed happy, did not ask about how the meeting went.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
The meeting lasted a couple of hours, LaPerruque said. He escorted MJ to Penn Station, he wanted to pick up some doughnuts for the kids.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"Michael seemed bright and alert at this meeting. He seemed excited," LaPerruque said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
During this time, LaPerruque took MJ to NYC to meet with AEG Live execs. He escorted MJ into the room, probably 10 people or more present.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque had a written agreement to work as head of security for Michael Jackson. He worked for him for only a few months in 07.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Based on the meeting, that's why he went back to work with him in 2007. His job was the same as before. He spoke with Raymone Bain.
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said Michael appeared bright, clear, energetic, full of energy. He wanted to do a lot of things.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
They met face to face, since the last time they spoke was in the Arvizo trial. He wanted to hear what MJ wanted him back.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
After meeting with him and speaking with his manager at the time, LaPerruque left the LA Times and went to work for Michael Jackson.
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: At that time, my children had grown older, started their own things, always enjoyed the challenge working for MJ.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"He kind of grew on me," LaPerruque explained. "I did care for the man."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: MJ always appreciated my loyalty, best security he ever had, asked me to return to work for him.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Grace Rwamba called LaPerruque and said she wanted to meet him, had a message from Michael Jackson.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
In 2007, LaPerruque went back to work for Michael Jackson. He was still the head of security of the LA Times.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
He also worked on internal investigations, security of journalists working on hostile environment in Iraq.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque took other jobs. He became in charge for the security of LA Times printing plants and security of corporate office.
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said the other reason was the revenue stream, which was harder and harder, and financial matters were becoming an issue.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: He and I had discussed me taking some time off.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
He said he saw MJ's litigation with the Arvizo family (molestation accusation), had been in court before and knew how demanding it was.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: I was never home, I missed a lot my children, birthdays, holidays.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
First, he had two young children and at the service of MJ you work at his pleasure, you never had set schedule.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said there were two reasons he stopped working for MJ.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"I never saw him swallow a pill, never saw him take injections," LaPerruque testified.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did you ever have an impression Mr. Jackson was trying to hide drugs from you?
LaPerruque: No.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did you have any understanding MJ was taking Propofol?
LaPerruque: No

LaPerruque never discussed using Propofol with MJ.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: There was one occasion I took him the doctor and I assumed he was there to see if he could find anything to help him sleep.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said Michael told him he had trouble sleeping.

LaPerruque: He was trying to find something that would help him sleep.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"He demanded to see Michael," LaPerruque recalled. "I told him that MJ said he didn't want to see any of his family members at the time."

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: I was at the front gate, saw private helicopter flying very low over Neverland. Randy Jackson was in the helicopter.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"It was requested by Mr. Jackson," LaPerruque said.

Putnam: He wanted to make sure his family members didn't come thru?
LaPerruque: Yes
Abrir
 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: He told me that his family would be coming over to the rancho to speak with him and asked me to interface with his relatives.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque remembers in 2001 Jackson family attempting an intervention. MJ asked him to come up to the ranch right away.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque did not see any scarring regarding an implant. He was told by a physician, and judge didn't let him continue since it's hearsay.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did you ever understand MJ had surgical procedure implant to help him get off of drugs?

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
The first time LaPerruque told anyone about this incident was in his deposition. Today in court was the second time.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did you consider you could've made a lot of money?
LaPerruque: No
P: Why?
LP: Because I had a commitment to Michael Jackson.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did you speak with anyone about that incident before?
LaPerruque: No
P: Did you ever consider letting the tabloids know?
LP: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque would take MJ to doctors appointments, normally in Beverly Hills.He'd call building security alerting they were on the way.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Why didn't you talk to Mr. Jackson about it?
LaPerruque: Because I didn't think it was my place.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did he ever thank you for coming over and helping him?
LaPerruque: No
P: Did anyone thank you?
LP: No

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque said they left shortly thereafter. "I was just told we were gonna leave."

LaPerruque never discussed this incident with MJ.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: Just to make sure that was no further embarrassment on Mr. Jackson's part.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque asked the paramedics to put on their report the name he checked himself under, not MJ name.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque: He was cleared, they told me he had to see a physician.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
LaPerruque tried to cancel paramedics, but they were arriving. He told them he found MJ and paramedics said they had to check him anyway.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
"He became conscious, I wouldn't say alert, but conscious," LaPerruque said. Putnam asked if he was groggy. He said yes.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9h
Putnam: Did you have to do mouth-to-mouth?
LaPerruque: I did
P: Did you see any drugs?
LP: No
P: Alcohol?
LP: Not that I recall

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LaPerruque: I had to check for pulse, turned him over, shook him, ultimately was breathing. I was able to wake him up, took him to his room.

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LaPerruque: I found Mr. Jackson in the hallway in the suite proned, unconscious.

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LaPerruque: I was able to go into the room, had called security partner to meet at the room as well to take the two children to nanny's room

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LaPerruque: I grabbed Mr. Jackson's keys and found Prince and Paris crying. They were crying saying they couldn't wake up daddy.

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LaPerruque would set up times to have MJ's room cleaned.

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LaPerruque said they would check in under assumed name. Room service would come to him and he would take it to MJ's room.

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LaPerruque: I was in my room, received phone call from hotel security that someone had called 911 from MJ's hotel room, like young children.

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They were staying at a Disney hotel. LaPerruque doesn't think a doctor traveled along. He stayed in a different room from MJ and kids.

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LaPerruque went a couple of times with MJ and his children to Disney World in Florida. There was a medical emergency once in 2001 or 2002.

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The security head said he never saw, anywhere, prescription drugs in MJ's hotel room or at Neverland.

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LaPerruque never saw MJ do drugs or take prescription medication. He did see open wine bottles in his room.
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"It was my concern he would overdose," LaPerruque testified.
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LaPerruque said that when he was with the sheriff's department he saw a number of people overdose and taken to emergency room.

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Putnam: Where you concern it could cause overdose?
LaPerruque: Yes.

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Putnam asked how he knew and he said he'd have discussions with the doctors and they would tell him.
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"He would have the doctors treating him to get him off the harder narcotics," LaPerruque said.

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LaPerruque understood that MJ was working hard to battle the prescription medication dependency.

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One day, LaPerruque said MJ told him he was clear. 'I just want you to know I'm going to stay this way,' LaPerruque said MJ told him.
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"He fought very hard to not be dependent on prescription medication," LaPerruque testified.

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LaPerruque: He knew I was there, he knew I saw him. There were times he fought very, very hard not to be dependent of those medications.

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"I wanted to be close to him, to protect him, to watch him," LaPerruque testified.

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LaPerruque: I believe he knew that I knew what was going. To bring up that conversation would put him on defensive, have barriers between us

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LaPerruque said they had some issues related to workload and work schedule, but for the most part it was a pleasure to work with Mr. Jackson

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Putnam: Did you like Mr. Jackson?
LaPerruque: Very much!

Putnam: Was there a time you didn't like Mr. Jackson?

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LaPerruque: There are some professional lines you don't cross and I think it was not my place.

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LaPerruque said speaking with MJ about it would be crossing the line. Even though he developed close relationship, needed to have a distance

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Putnam: Why did you do that, sir?
LaPerruque: It was part of my job.

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LaPerruque: I'd take him back to his room and make sure he was okay. I would seat there and make sure that he was breathing.

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"He had slurred speech, incoherent, looked like he was going unconscious," LaPerruque said.

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LaPerruque: In rare occasions, there were times he seemed to be under the influence of drugs in meetings, had to be taken back to his room.
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LaPerruque'd knock on MJ's door, escort him to the room meeting would take place. He'd wait outside the door and escort MJ back to the room

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People were given LaPerruque's cell number and would leave him messages for Michael.

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LaPerruque: Mr. Jackson had propensity of losing his cell phone. I think I counted he lost 27 cell phones (jury laughs).

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LaPerruque: Any kind of emails and phone calls came to me. I'd relay the message to him, would go to his room to slip a note under the door.

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LaPerruque: Few times in the middle of the day I'd go into his room and he'd be displaying signs of being under the influence.

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Putnam asked if LaPerruque spoke with MJ's family members or business associates.

"I didn't believe it was my place to do that," he said.

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LaPerruque: I knew they (the doctors) would be treating Mr. Jackson and wanted them to have a clear picture going in.

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LaPerruque said his job was not only to protect MJ from fans or outside causes, but "I took it upon myself to take care of Mr. Jackson."

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Putnam: What were you concerned?
LaPerruque: Just his general health, it seemed the frequency of the intoxication to be more occurring

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LaPerruque spoke with Dr. Slavitch, Dr. Farshchian and Grace Rwamba about his concerns with MJ.

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The relationship between Dr. Farshchian and MJ was already established when LaPerruque began working for the artist.

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He was one of the physicians that traveled with MJ, LaPerruque said, probably chosen by MJ.

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He also spoke with Grace Rwamba, MJ's children nanny at the time, about his concerns and Dr. Alimorad "Alex" Farshchian in Miami, Florida.

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"I was worried about his health," LaPerruque testified.

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LaPerruque spoke with Dr Slavitch from San Francisco. He said he became worried about MJ due to numerous times he saw MJ under the influence

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"I never performed any tests but the symptoms he was displaying were consistent with being under the influence," LaPerruque testified.

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LaPerruque: Because the objective symptoms he was displaying, slurred speech, nod.

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Putnam asked what made LaPerruque think he was under the influence of drugs.

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"I knew he had unusual sleep patterns," LaPerruque said. "I think he was just lonely and wanted somebody to talk to."

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LaPerruque: He asked questions about the next day's schedule, asked questions over and over.
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LaPerruque: He wouldn't be very coherent, slurred speech, trying to fall asleep, incomprehensible

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Another 10 to 15 times, he wasn't asked to go to MJ's room, LaPerruque said. Total would be between 20 and 30 times.

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Putnam: How many times did you go to his room?
LaPerruque: Through the course of employment, probably 10 to 15 times.

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"It's just slurred speech, sort of mumbling," LaPerruque said. He would be sleeping when MJ called.

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"We would be in the room and he seemed to have a hard time," he said.

Putnam: Did he speak in an incoherent manner?
LaPerruque: Yes

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The security head said he would be asked to go to MJ's room, he had a key. "I would go to his room to make sure he was ok," LaPerruque said.

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"His speech would be very slurred, it would be a lot of mumbling, wouldn't understand him sometimes," LaPerruque described.

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LaPerruque said there were 3 times he was at a hotel and got a phone call in the middle of the night.

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Putnam: From Dec. 2001 to 2004, did you believe Mr. Jackson was under the influence of drugs?
LaPerruque: Yes

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If doctor came along, it would be someone Mr. Jackson knew and they would have a hotel room. LaPerruque did not help find those doctors.

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LaPerruque testified he learned the client's needs and after been asked many times to find hotel doctor he understood it was part of his job

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"It became commonplace to have a physician ready upon arrivals at hotels," LaPerruque said.

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LaPerruque would call the doctor. He said MJ complained about back pains, but he didn't ask every single time what the complaint was.

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LaPerruque: I would go down to the concierge and ask if they had doctors they work with and get recommendation.

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LaPerruque: We would get to a hotel and he would ask me to get the hotel physician.
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LaPerruque: He would have a physician present, also when we would go out and were staying somewhere he'd have me call a physician.

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LaPerruque never lived at Neverland Ranch.

Putnam: Was there a period of time he was with a doctor on a daily basis?
LaPerruque: Yes

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LaPerruque: Anytime MJ stepped out of the property for extended period, going to LA or around the world, I was activated to accompany him.

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LaPerruque was in charge of Mr. Jackson's protection and the protection of his children. He consulted regarding Neverland security.

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Putnam: Is it fair to say you quit your job with the Sheriff's Department to work for Michael Jackson?
LaPerruque: I retired.

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In December 2001, LaPerruque was asked to be full time and head the security of Michael Jackson. For the NY trip, LaPerruque used vacation.
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He went with MJ to NY to provide security at 30th anniversary of Madison Square Garden.

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MJ was shooting short film at the lot, so LaPerruque was asked to provide security some times.

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The nanny would call him if they needed anything for MJ or the children.
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LaPerruque stayed at the Universal Hilton, there was a room for him. MJ and the children, nanny, personal security team were there as well.

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Earlier in the summer/01, while still at the Sheriff's Dept, LaPerruque said man with MJ security asked for help at the Universal Hilton.

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Putnam asked if LaPerruque was trained to identify people intoxicated. He said yes, he attended drug intoxication courses.

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First full time gig in private security was in December 2001. He was with the Sheriff's Department prior to that for 22 1/2 years.

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MJ hired LaPerruque 5-10 times in the Summer of 2001. He was hired full time in December 2001 and was under employment until 2004.

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LaPerruque: I'm a security specialist, provide security for high profile people, celebrities, estate. I worked for Michael and Janet Jackson

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Putnam: Are you rooting for either side?
LaPerruque: No, I'm not rooting for any side

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Atty Marvin Putnam did the questioning. He asked if LaPerruque met with attorneys from defense and plaintiff prior to testimony. He said yes

 

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