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TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: www.thisisalsoit.com
« on: December 07, 2009, 03:47:38 PM »
The vibes of TNZ are so negative and these folks are so much ridiculing everything and are putting people down.

Listen with your heart and with your brains and save your souls and spirits and energies please. Do not run for false preasts or anybody wanting to sell you <the> truth.
There is not only one truth and nobody will discover yours for you but yourself.

To me the folks on TNZ are following third party interests - and there may be many wolves in lamb cloths still. They are doing what all third class reporters do - they are getting you hooked on emotions. They know from reading us that we are very emotional persons. But like the tabloids, they are selective in what they publish and are selling the bad news only with emotional decoration.
Don t buy easily into it.
This is selling catastrophies and world collapses and OMGs.
And then in addition they are insulting the readers. Do you like to be called names?

Stay attentive especially on the web and always ask about motivation, intention, means and profit. Free yourself from running after others only making yourself breathless and worn out. It s not worth it. Love your closest ones - then you have honored Michael s intentions.

Oh what a nice picture of them taking us by the hand and helping us cross the street.

IMHO however we don t need any <cross-the-street-helpers> since
1) we found more out than those guys ever expected (that s their material btw and the reason why they are so much trying to separate us again)
2) we are not lame nor aged nor incapable to cross the street on our own
3) we were capable till today to cross the street on our own and I bet we ll be capable tomorrow still
4) we did not call anybody for help, did we?

These are 4 good reasons to resist the temptation to allow them take control over our lives. Take a step back and watch. And meanwhile do something good to those who are in need. Think of your precious time and energy.
We got the answers already. The threads are full of it. No need to search any longer.
What do you want still to find? The date and time of the announcement and when and how it will be executed and know now whether MJ will ever wear his golden pants again?
If this is really your interest, then you may become very disappointed.
But this then was your personal choice and nobody else will be to be blamed upon your deception, I m afraid. Dare the incertainty because this is life at its best. This is the thrill of skiing, diving, sky-diving, walking alone. Youll never know but you hope it all to end up safe.

We ve come a long way, guys, this is not it so far.
We are not here to help others to distract us or to separate us. Just let them be and let go.

Resist the negativity and do something good to yourself and then to the world around you.
If you like, look at the redirections since this is great self-education and there are real important subjects to be tackled. But don t take TNZ and all the other <leaders> as a bible, please. I know it s hard sometimes. Saying NO and YES to the right matters and situations in life is the most demanding task ever since nobody knows whether you ll turn out proven right or wrong.

I always thought however to take a decision and maybe ending up in a dead hole, maybe having to turn and start anew is far better than to leave decisions on my life to anybody else.

Hugs to all and don t be afraid. There s nothing to fear. Not even the catastrophies at TNZ.
L.O.V.E.

This is still a wonderful escape>
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Other Odd Things / Re: having bad feeling after reading this
« on: December 07, 2009, 12:32:57 AM »
Quote from: "Tay3"
Louis Farrakhan is a very extreme, racist person. He always says things that are way out there and is constantly trying to stir up racial tension. I can't believe Michael ever had anything to do with this man. Don't believe a word of what he says and especially don't feel down by this article.

There are hours of videos of Farrakhan on Michael out there on youtube.
If you have the nerves watch them.

IMHO this preacher is a freerider and abusing Michael for his very personal interests.
There are interesting aspects but I cannot consider anybody serious who is comparing Michael to Jesus. We are not inventing a new religion here nor are we converting to Islam because Mr. Farrakhan is an eloquent speaker and working on high conversion rates from african americans.
This is abuse as many times before when Michael had to be an object for others and for no matter which cause.

Who has good speech talents does not necessarily tell the truth.
Who gets a lot of applause is not necessarily a true leader.

Heads up, there's nothing to be worried about in this article.

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Hoax Videos / Re: New vid showing UCLA hosp secret tunnel...
« on: December 05, 2009, 11:57:27 AM »
Quote from: "angelshadow"
However, this is right were not in the video 2 Helicopter in the roof, there was, nevertheless, still the second Helicopter??? I do not know so much sense does not prove  :|

Yes, the double again - I had to think of a magician show while watching the heli video:
a big gesture will hide the small one which is the important one.
Distract by the big obvious in the foreground that catches full attention and do the activity with the small gesture in the background.

As much as I liked the idea of Michael being the one standing in open door of the Sheriff's big chopper flying to the coroner, I liked the idea of Michael slipping into the small heli at UCLA roof when all focus was on the chopper.

But finally I came to the conclusion that Michael was not at UCLA at all that day. It was all staged. And the pics of the arrival at UCLA - well were they not taken on another day?
See this general discussion with a doctor (to make it believable?)
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Michael Jackson News / Re: ELIZABETH TAYLOR'S EMAIL - 25TH JUNE
« on: December 05, 2009, 11:29:16 AM »
It's a different video on the site below the first linked one.
I added the link which is different:
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Michael Jackson News / Re: ELIZABETH TAYLOR'S EMAIL - 25TH JUNE
« on: December 05, 2009, 11:02:30 AM »
This is a bit strange about FoxNews isn't it:

Title:
Cardiac Arrest?
Published: Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Description: Report: Michael Jackson rushed to hospital

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TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: www.thisisalsoit.com
« on: December 05, 2009, 10:37:51 AM »
Are we returning to the rumours of June 26, 2009 and this article?

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[FSB sources are reporting to President Medvedev today that American pop icon Michael Jackson was “most assuredly” assassinated by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after an examination of data transmitted by a Russian Military’s Kosmos 2450 satellite show “conclusively” that immediately prior to the music stars death in Los Angeles an electromagnetic pulse consistent in pattern to EMR weapons looted from the former Soviet Union by the United States was employed at the “exact coordinates” of the rock stars home.]

Could there have been a threat that made MJ disappear ?

More details in JFK sr. if you like:
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TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: www.thisisalsoit.com
« on: December 05, 2009, 09:04:27 AM »
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Don't reject things because "Michael would never do that", because we don't know what he would do.

In relation to the redirects of thisisalsoit: Did it ever cross your mind that there might have been a government conspiracy against Michael and and someone wants people to know about it?  [/b]

Mo, I am not rejecting anything. I explained why to me it is impossible that Michael would aggress government and others he is still relying on. If he wanted to do so, no better way than to take the kids with their nanny to another country - but he knows well that he could not make them escape by that.

Everybody who has children would rather die for them but put them into any danger.

A government conspiracy - yes this is possible. As well as murder. What for?
Might be reveiled, might not.

What makes me really mad is though those penetrating pretenders of Michael NOT saying they are not Michael but gambling with people's emotions.
TIAI and TNZ are doing that like many others before. And then there are tweets "oh I never said I was him" but they don't put it on their pages CLEARLY for everybody to read and refrain from worshiping them.
This is what really is making me angry. These lies of people without any shame.

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TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: www.thisisalsoit.com
« on: December 05, 2009, 08:44:04 AM »
This says it all:

TrueNewsZone
 
@JadeHealTWorld "You suggest to take that site seriously so .." - We suggest to respect the Game and creator of the Game.
about 5 hours ago from web

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TIAI & TS Discussions / Re: www.thisisalsoit.com
« on: December 05, 2009, 08:07:53 AM »
And I say it again - even if you don't want or like to hear it.

There are freeriders using the hype for Michael to bring THEIR message across.
I really cannot say that I would in the smallest millimeter of my brain be capable of saying what Michael would think, plan, do.

BUT if you want to convince me that TIAI and TNZ are Michael's fruits, I say NO they are not Michael. So was not ***mj***, *Michael...L.O.V.E.*, Unbreakable, JCC, ~Love~Lives~Forever~ and is not IllComeBack.

There are sites and blogs from fans who say they are fans and they are spreading his message. To those I rely and to those I say "well done, appreciated".

But to all other game players who PRETEND being Michael and are not saying they are not him and receive all these love declarations and feel not ashamed in any way - buy me a rocket and I will send them to galaxy # 3124, far far away so they cannot harm anymore one of those poor souls believing they found Michael at their address.

This JFK subject is worth looking into it.
Yes there are people profiting from others vanishing from earth.
Yes there are things brushed under carpets and silences that are being bought.

BUT THIS IS NOT MICHAEL'S VOICE AND THIS IS NOT MICHAEL USING RUSSIAN SERVERS AND THIS IS NOTHING IN THE INTEREST OF MICHAEL TO PUT GOVERNMENT DOWN.

THESE REDIRECTIONS ARE THOSE OF A GAMBLING GANG.
You may look into all of these subjects and educate yourself with different horizons.

But you must be very clear on the fact that Michael's children are living in the US and that he would do nothing to put them in any danger.

So whenever you go for spiritual growth and increasing awareness, look at what happened to Kennedy family and ask yourself if Michael would do this to his kids also and think of would it be worth it.

You may argue that being "officially dead" would now enable Michael to speak about each and every thing that he thought was not right on this planet.
Well before his disappearance, he was a  great humanitarian.
Would you think that this has changed with his disappearance?
That he's letting "the saws run free" now as he cannot be put under prosecution?
Well, I think that authorities are not so stupid to think that he died and that they are watching and reading us.
And if he would speak out about how bad banks, finance system, CIA, FBI, government were and what else you'd put in the row in addition, do you think anybody would hesitate to get him dead or alive?

Again - and all of you may disagree with me - TIAI and TNZ are freeriders and do have nothing to do with Michael and the more abstruse the redirections get, the more convinced I am of the game they are playing. As said by others, the whole thing is US related and I am very sorry but this is far below Michael's standards and occurancies.

Where would we go from here if current US government were destabilized?
Think about it.

Don't believe what you read - this is even more valid in the web.

I am really in a mad mood and might make up a site "Thisisnotonlyit" and follow my interests with adding some pics of Michael and only citing selected phrases from other posters that fit my intentions and I bet everybody would just overrun my email addy and my twitter and send me red roses saying "I love you Michael".

Take care of your souls and spirits please. L.O.V.E.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Analysis of TNZ's Myspace & Twitter Pages
« on: December 03, 2009, 03:41:03 PM »
Yep, Scream, this is one of the white holes on justice maps.
That's why the bootleg of TII was uploaded in the version we saw.

I just wonder who is behind TNZ.
What they are bringing up is what we put together on MJHD and here.
The material from MJHD is enough to fill a tabloid for at least one year.
I think it is not worth looking into a sale of the site.
Look at the content of the data base.
Any imagination of how much traffic that would generate if sorted and put into a serial novel?
Millions of $. I believe from experience in the greed of ugly men.

[And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.]

In this case I stick to hope that justice will eat its children.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Analysis of TNZ's Myspace & Twitter Pages
« on: December 03, 2009, 12:30:43 AM »
TNZ are only using all the material that we have found so far - only to give it a contrary meaning. The disappearance of some chess figurines and the appearance of others in a different corner of public eyes claiming "the truth" for them is making up a new chapter after 06/25.

I came to think that the battle has just begun and that's why MJHD has left the field.
Get a rope and a safety jacket for the storms that are approaching.
I suggest to all those not so sure of what to make of it - save the reasons and indicators why you were convinced that MJ is alive and well on your desktop and don't forget about them during the next weeks.

As there are signs of a wishful thinking out there in cyberspace that MJ could return on Christmas, the debates are heating up and the haters are back to prepare the world for MJ and that date in their sense.
We are likely to be presented more disgusting lies and microscopic details of what MJ did not do right in some "public judging opinion".

During last months, tabloids were put on spotlight and sometimes ridiculed as not having cited and commented in true manners about MJ. They were presented undeniable inconsistencies and lies they did spread. They came up with insecurity signs in their approach to spreading MJ stories. They even did apologize in public about their lies. This is a never happened before novum and we can be proud of our efforts to force them to apologize.
They even started listening to us and gave us space to meet in order to learn what we found and think and whether there was something in for them. LKL live blog in fact has become a chat and the majority of haters there has turned into a majority of questioning people.

However, infotainment media are likely to defend their habits and status. They are likely to invent even more hateful and disgusting lies.

Be prepared for this in times when new and democratic media are not only being discovered by MJ friends but also MJ foes.

IMHO TMZ may have a lot to do with TNZ (e.g. TMZ allow a globally protected and protection surveyed brand logo to be copied and modified on myspace). This is copyright and brand infringement and if TNZ authors are really located in New York they know about it.
So either TMZ is in on TNZ or TNZ has VERY good lawyers.
Why TNZ is using Russian servers and not US servers for linking their material speaks to me that they are storing copyrighted material where US authorities do not have access to prosecution.

TNZ do have also a twibbon.com account:
In google cache of Nov 10, 2009 we'll find this:
TrueNewsZone
@HoaxDeathPage: "we can't be in rest in peace! the site will be okay in the coming days" - Great news: MJHD will COME BACK in its own time;)
55 minutes ago from web | View TrueNewsZone's twitter profile
at that time: 966 Following 459 Followers
    * Name:      True News Zone
    * Location:  New York
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    * Joined:      10/15/2009 9:24:35 PM

Well, whether they knew anything about MJHD from the site, web or backstage, we don't know.
Btw. I found a site where MJHD was stated to have been launched June 1, 2009 and I found another saying the site was worth more than 130,000 $ now. I doubt that there will be anybody buying it.

TNZ appearance and MJHD disappearance fit into the tide of events after the movie.
Their intention however is not clear. They are - as remarked earlier in the thread - no friends, fans, believers or followers. They are not neutral either. But they know how to twist words.
And they must be an international group with a lot of money behind. There is no advertisement on the page. (?) The site is maintained regularily, there is almost always somebody online and those folks do have a lot of time dedicated to layout, pictures and it's done professionally.

To me TNZ is following some third party interests as a freerider on MJ's attention. They are not convincing to me.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Analysis of TNZ's Myspace & Twitter Pages
« on: December 02, 2009, 11:54:52 AM »
Well, TNZ

1) seem rather aggressive
2) eager to show us every detail of the plot
3) does not stop ridiculing MJ and us
4) is a good writer
5) knows all about our conversations
6) has their material that they upload sitting in Russia
7) reminds me of some writer we know already.

Didn't this writer leave for fresh waters?

I am really astounded about the harsh unpleasant reads that they publish and about the MJ myspace pages following TNZ.
Do they really believe we are buying it from them if we did not buy it from others since 5 months?
This is not MJ speaking, this is not MJ caring, this is not MJ loving.
To me TNZ is subliminal hate and destruction and all I can say is they are not on his side IMHO but trying to destruct him one more time.

Listen to your belly while reading them. Be careful about what they want to sell to us.
This is not MJ.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Analysis of TNZ's Myspace & Twitter Pages
« on: December 01, 2009, 02:05:34 PM »
Did you see the 2 videos posted on TNZ myspace?
Breathtaking.

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Other Odd Things / Re: HOLY SH*T!!! I FOUND A CLUE!!!!!!
« on: December 01, 2009, 12:24:11 PM »
It could mean something but I don't think so.

These smileys are being used to count visitors and to detect where they are coming from and where they are going to.
The one on LKL blog was there since weeks and the one at houstoncriminallaw-pressroom.com (which is a fake site and is NOT hosted on the server of Murray's lawyers) always was there.

On the fake lawyer's site the smiley is called "g.gif" and belongs to wordpress visitor's tracking code.

On LKL this smiley will disappear and reappear when you refresh the site.
The properties of the smiley (right mouse click) will give you the path of where you came from to the current site.
LKL is using several services to track your movements on the site, e.g. omniture (a service provided by ebay for professional vendors) and quantcast.

Where I know this all from? Reading source code which is available in each browser for each page you visit. (menu: view / display source code)

Whenever you have a doubt where sites are really located, where they load data and pictures from, investigate the source code. Everything is stated there and even if you do not know programming code, you may track the given URLs.

L.O.V.E.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Analysis of TNZ's Myspace & Twitter Pages
« on: November 30, 2009, 03:19:42 PM »
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
In Regards to TNZ's Myspace page. I noticed Quincy Jones is a friend and MJ's mother! C'mon!! R U Kidding me!!  :lol: I just looked at this. I should be a friend too. Dang!!  These people coming on here to be friends, well known people. THis is really odd!! hmmm.

Don't assume too much - important people are also friends to Mr. Michael Louis Brittingham's myspace who is a vulture and freerider.

There are also automatic replies when many requests are coming in. This Brittingham has registered the homesite in GB on June 28 btw and carries an Indian / Pakistanian name but claims to be living in CA. He is asking to be added to his followers on MySpace... what a crap.

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