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Other Odd Things / Re: THE REAL MICHAEL DIED IN THE PEPSI ACCIDENT!!!!
« on: September 20, 2010, 03:00:52 PM »
Nobody could affirm that he/she knows the real MJ. Nobody but his family and very close friends. And they would never tell us the truth...loyalty or just their own interest. What we know is that , after the Pepsi accident , a lot of very visible changes occured  in the MJ's appearance : his lighter and lighter skin, his different behaviour, different height and even different smile , and more others( MJ began to use playback in concerts!!!)...but you already know all these, don't you?
May be that was the moment when Michael decided to live a new life, the beginning of the hoax we are trying to solve now.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Date for this photo ?
« on: July 24, 2010, 01:04:43 AM »
No way! This is NOT him! Just look at the nose ..it's different ... and the nails... the cleft is so deep...

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Hoax Videos / Who is Michael Jackson?
« on: June 27, 2010, 03:12:14 AM »
[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdLHYlnpcrQ&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvsR1V64y_Y&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbD_SX_WGc4&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpI3H34BF9c&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0TOnMWhZY&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtUEe6yAccM&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

And the newest series: The Michael Jackson's PRESTIGE:

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUyGkQfdT4&feature=channel[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

[youtube:1rwhqv4v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TokrQ0vYPw&feature=related[/youtube:1rwhqv4v]

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Other Odd Things / Re: WHO IS IT - Larry Shaw says IT'S HIM
« on: May 19, 2010, 12:12:25 PM »
One of the 3 selected to view Barry on webcam snapped the picture, against Barrys request (Barry didnt want pictures taken), & posted it on Barrys facebook wall




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Other Odd Things / Re: WHO IS IT - Larry Shaw says IT'S HIM
« on: May 19, 2010, 05:42:09 AM »
This is the letter Barry Shaw wrote to the fans.

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May 17, 2010 - Monday

My response to fans
 
Hello everyone, thank you for coming here and reading this. Nothing can take away the love that I have for you, and nothing will ever keep us apart in our own hearts. No distance, no negativity, nothing can keep you out of my heart. I pray that you remember this, no matter which way things turn over the next two years, you have been in my heart ever since the beginning.

When and why I started as "Michael," I realized that I was taking on a huge responsibility for you all. When Michael came to me, he was struggling deeply in life. He was very unhappy with his life, and he kept pushing on only for us-- the fans-- and I will admire him until the very end for what he did for us.

I love you all, I really do and I want you all to remember this; however, many of you have been treating me as if I was the new King of Pop, and I am not. I am Barry J. Shaw.
I owe all of my supporters a large debt of gratitude for defending me when others choose to use sarcasm, and rude outbursts to try to hurt me. My supporters are the only reason I now push on.

Michael Jackson is gone, but he is alive in me, and I am trying to give his messsage to all of you. You must all understand, however, that I did not come to the internet looking to become a "hit." I expected to be written off by most (as I was until this month), but I figured I could improve the lives of a few people, and that is what my goal is after.
I have always lived my life with the mindset that it's better to improve the life one 1 person, and be unknown, than to appeal to 1,000 people and be known. In my job, I helped give some of the best moments to people they will have for the remainder of their lives. That is something that I did not take for granted, and I must have you know that these moments are also the best moments I have ever had in my life!
I am asked often "was it you Barry at so and so?" "Barry are you in this photo?",etc. I do not answer such questions, for this reason: meeting Michael Jackson was a moment people will cheerish for the rest of their lives. Meeting Barry Shaw is just like meeting a new neighbor next door-- sure it may be exciting for a bit, but that wears off. I do not want to take away those special moments shared between Michael and his fans, even if it was with me and the fans, because if I do not tell, they will never know.
I just want to thank you all for your support... Truly. Thank you all for your support. I could never do this life without you all. I gave up having a family, I gave up having a self identity, I gave it all up proudly for you.

I love you all, please never forget that.

Barry J. Shaw

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Other Odd Things / Re: Holy Terrace or Great Mausoleum...
« on: May 17, 2010, 11:40:00 PM »
To deepen the confusion i'll post the pictures below showing the possible Michael's resting place...the real one...i took these pictures from a site but i cannot remember what site...Sorry ! Maybe someone else knows about them (i cannot be the only who saw them!)and can give some more details. Anyway, it's the Last Supper of Da Vinci about that more discussions were before.





What do you think? It seems a better place...if the case would be , of course.

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General Hoax Talk / Re: IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ & COMMENT
« on: May 16, 2010, 12:16:36 AM »
1. - ambulance picture
    - lack of emotion from his family and close friends
    - all the inconsistencies related to ...everything
    - autopsy report
    - funerals
    - O2 arena
    - TII

2.  Every day passing i do believe that Michael is in a kind of governmental protection program. I'm not sure such a program really exists in US but he had serious problems and needed a serious protection.

3. His message is already being known and now,more and more people (young or less young) know Michael better and learnt to choose the thruth amongst everything ever written or said about Michael Jackson and became more attentive to signs The Earth sends to us. I'm one of them and i have to thank you and other members of this forum and other forums for opening my eyes. And i know there are many people in a similar situation.And today all of us are fully aware of the importance of being a better and more caring man/woman and doing something for salvation of the beautiful blue planet . As for the political aspects...we are too small for such a big war !!!

4. I'm not so sure our deeper and deeper investigations could be useful for Michael and/or his plans. If such an important issue and very important people are involved, our investigations could  have a negative impact on the whole action .

5. Jonellstar video series

6. Your video series

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Maybe we'll get more evidence that MJ really USED a double. I'm sure he did , otherwise it would have been almost impossible to live but it's hard to demonstrate this. My question would be : is there here who could be 100% sure that the man we used to consider MJ was the real MJ?

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Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Yes, I was there as I promised.
I have a problem sending photos to my email in order to attach them that's why I did not want to open topic.
However, I will post pictures later.
I was there at 10.30 to 1.30. During the the time I was there I did not see family members or media, or anyone whom we know.
  At the beginning when I got there was quiet. No security outside of the Holly Terrace door. Those families who have their relatives buried there have their key to open the door and enter, or if they forgot the key, they push the bell, security asks who is it, they say whos family they belong and they automatically open  locked door for them.
If you are just a public visitor, you cannot enter.
So, I was sitting in  my car and wating. later VAN arrived to Holly Terrace and woman was carrying flowers and FEDex package. She got in and when she got out, I approached to her and asked to whom she was taking flowers to and who is she. She said flowers were for Michael and she is an employee at forest lawn delivering ordered flowers to  deceased. I asked how often she delivers flowers for Michael, she said very often. Since she was barely speaking and understanding english, I did not ask her much questions. Then another car arrived and woman got out. I approached her and were talking for 2,5 hours. Before I write our conversation, I want to mention that group of french women arrived with shick bouque of a few flowers, toys, and memory cards from french fans. They were friends of the woman I was talking to. Then a few other native fans also arrived with flowers, stand there, cry, talk, get puctures. Security definitely watching outside because in a few min. door was oppened to take flowers in. I asked to let french guests in and of course try to get in myself, but he said NO.  
The french woman I was talking to, was a doctor, late but big fan of Michael, after he "died" she was reading and investigating for herself Michael's "death". She BELIEVS IN HOAX. She was pretty much aware of everything we are disgussing. SHE SAID FRANCE GET INFO ABOUT MICHAEL FROM TMZ AND SHE THINKS TMZ IS WITH JACKSON FAMILY. SHE SAID SHE IS COMING TO FOREST LAWN EVERY DAY FOR MINIMUM AN HOUR AND ONE DAY SHE WAS LUCKY TO GET IN HOLLY TERRACE ALONG WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO ENTERED FOR THEIR RELATIVE. SHE SAW MICHAEL'S GRAVE AND THERE IS NO NAME OR DATE ON IT. THEN, SHE SAID SHE ASKED SECURITY WHO IS SITTING ON THE FRONT DOOR OF THE GREAT MAUSOLEUM , HOW OFTEN MICHAEL'S PARENTS, CHILDREN, FAMILY VISITING CEMETERY SINCE BURIAL, SECURITY TOLD HER NONE, SHE WISHES AT LEAST ONCE TO SEE THEM THERE.
(REMEMBER BROTHERS WENT TO CEMETERY IN JACKSON FAMILY DYNASTY? SO THEY WERE NOT IN THE RIGHT FOREST LAWN FOR SURE).
SHE ASO SAID, AS A DOCTOR, SHE HAS READ AUTOPCY REPORT AND THERE ARE MANY MEDICALLY IMPOSSIBLE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN. SHE SAID, AT THE FOREST LAWN, SHE WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE AND HOW COULD FUNERAL WE SAW ON TV BE POSSIBLY THE SAME PLACE AS SHE SEES. THERE IS NO WAY FUNERAL WAS LIVE TRANSLATION  AT THE FOREST LAWN. BECAUCE ARCHS ON TV APPEARED TO BE STRIGHT ALONG WITH  CASKET AND SITTING PLACES, BUT THE REAL ROAD AT FOREST LAWN HAS WIND AND UPRISE, SO IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THE FLAT STRAIGHT ROAD ON FUNERAL  WE WERE WATCHING .
THEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PAINT "MAD HATTER" BY CELINE LAVAIL THAT WAS ORDERED BY MICHAEL, DRAWN THE DATE OF THE "DEATH", AND SIGNED MY MICHAEL. ( I WANT TO MENTION THAT SHE WAS HARDLY SPEAKING ENGLISH, SO I MIGHT MISUNDERSTOOD SOMETHING OR SHE COULD NOT EXPRESS HER SPEECH CORRECTLY).
SHE WILL BE GOING TOMORROW TO THE COURT, SHE IS PLANNING TO VISIT NEVERLAND, SHE WAS AT STAPLES. SHE ASKED IF  AMERICA BELIEVES IN HOAX AND WHY NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT. I EXPLAINED THAT AMERICA CANNOT SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE JACKSON FAMILY ACCEPTED MICHAEL DIED, THEY  ORGANIZED MEMORIAL, SHOWED FUNERAL, SIGNED DEATH CERTIFICATE, AND JARMAINE ANNOUNCED HIS DEATH. SHE SAID -VERY STRANGE. I AGREED, BUT WE CANNOT SPEAK OUT AGAINST WHAT FAMILY ACCEPTS, THAT WOULD BE DISRESPECT AND LED TO LAWSUIT. EVEN THOUGH MAY BE MAJORITY BELIEVE IN HOAX BUT THEY WILL NOT TALK , EXCEPT SOME WEB SITES LIKE THIS ONE AND OVERSEAS. I GAVE HER THIS WEBSITE TO JOIN US, I HAVE HER EMAIL FOR FUTURE COMMUNICATION.
THE FUNNY PART WAS WHEN SHE SAID HER GIRLFIRENDS NOT TALKING TO HER BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN MICHAEL'S DEATH, THEREFORE THEY ARRIVED AT FOREST LAWS SEPARATE. :lol: SHE SAID SHE KNOWS THAT MICHALE'S KIDS OFTEN FLY TO NEW YORK WITH GRACE. SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AN ATTORNEY WHO IS HAPPEN TO BE ELIZABETH TAYLOR SON. SHE BELIEVES THAT MJ GIVES US CLUES BECAUSE HE LOVES AND VALUES US. SHE BELIEVES HE MOST PROBABLY WILL BE BACK BUT NOT THAT SOON.
I PROMISE TO POST PICTURES LATER, NOT MUCH BUT SOMETHING. IF I REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE FROM OUR CONVERSATION, I WILL POST IT. Stay cool! Happy Easter to us and Dearest Michael!



Try and put me in touch with that french woman by mail or let me know and I can ask her questions and translate then please !!!!!!!

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Other Odd Things / Re: Ambulance Report 2004
« on: April 01, 2010, 02:39:42 AM »
december 2004 is the date when the form has been approved, just the form ...I mean this kind of form has been approved by the authority in charge at that date.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: press conference FANVENTION
« on: March 29, 2010, 12:18:37 AM »
Thank you ! I'd like to believe that you wanted to say Mrs. Katherine , don't you?

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To me, even repeated, the most important question is :

1. Who made the home security tapes disappear? If they'd be found the whole mystery would be solved.

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All VIPs has double(s), everybody knows that. In my opinion, not all the doubles we saw were Michael's choices; most of them are just amateurs, fans who tries to catch the public attention. But it's almost sure Michael had one or more very good double(s) who was/were with him all the way , even in the hoax, and one of those could be Navi. They could be more,it's not necessary to know them all.

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This pic is heartbreaking...and brings tears in my eyes even today.

The 2005 trial finished what the '93 Allegations Started: His Spirit Was Broken


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The Double Theory / Re: The Official Double Thread
« on: March 11, 2010, 02:58:42 AM »
More than he used doubles in TII I believe that we haven't seen the real Michael since 2005 at the time of the 2nd trial . The most dramatic and controversial changes in his appearance have been noticed after this year and maybe this was the time when he began to prepare his disappearance from the public eyes. It's just an opinion but i'd like to know your thoughts .

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