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AEG ~ Sony / Tommy Mottola interview...
« on: March 18, 2010, 02:20:43 PM »
[youtube:kp78fhkw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sItXxlQEmMs&NR=1[/youtube:kp78fhkw]

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Michael Jackson News / Jackson documentary to reveal more details?
« on: March 18, 2010, 08:52:59 AM »
Chris Grant, the president of Shine International, the film's distributor, said the film will tell "the story of what actually happened to Michael". He added that the documentary would "eventually be known as a really important piece of the Michael Jackson saga".

Yes this is Ian Halperin, but if he has footage (he does) and the footage is of interest, it might shed light on what was going on. As for him commenting on his health/drug problems, the autopsy report is out so any sensationalising of these topics will really discredit him.

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Jennifer Batten / Extensive interview - Jennifer Batten
« on: March 16, 2010, 09:14:31 AM »
She also lends some credence to Karen Faye's claims.

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Michael Jackson News / Omer Bhatti- I'm your new dad
« on: March 15, 2010, 08:35:04 AM »
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Michael Jackson News / Principal TII Dancer Interview
« on: March 13, 2010, 08:02:53 PM »
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AEG ~ Sony / How AEG turned their fortunes around
« on: March 11, 2010, 08:56:10 AM »
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The Memorial / Debunking sign language 'ALIVE'
« on: March 07, 2010, 08:17:27 PM »
On the Seeingclues blogspot (very bottom), it is mentioned that during 'Will you be there' there is sign language indicating that MJ is alive - alive being the important word. This is not the case.
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Alive (sign language) - thumbs pointing up, both hands moving up the chest. Look up 'alive'. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

In WYBT at 1.22 the word is 'Lead me'. Here is an example of how this is done in sign language.
Check out 'Lead' here. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login It is the same as in WYBT.  Not the same as 'alive'.

In WYBT at 1.54 the phrase is 'I will be there'. I cannot find the sign language for this, BUT the fingers pointing up are not the thumbs, and both hands are not moving up the chest. It is obvious that it does not mean 'alive'.

This part is being debunked. I posted it on MJHD because the original idea came from someone here.

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Dr. Adams - Murray is lying
« on: March 07, 2010, 05:51:56 PM »
From the affidavit;

Murray also recounted how sometime between March and April of this year, Jackson called him in Las Vegas and asked him to call Dr. David Adams and arrange for Dr. Adams to give Jackson propofol. Murray did as Jackson asked and arranged for Dr. Adams to treat Jackson. Murray was present at a third party cosmetologist's office where Dr. Adams sedated Jackson with propofol. Murray stated this was around the time that Jackson requested him to be his personal physician on the European tour.

Dr. Adams denies this. This was reported on Aug 27th, but wasn't picked up on.

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Dr. Conrad Murray / The problem with Murray
« on: March 05, 2010, 05:11:46 PM »
I just wanted to pose a question. Murray lied to medical staff and paramedics about giving propofol. He also lied about the amount given. He incriminated himself by telling police he gave propofol, yet withheld this from medical staff. He didn't follow correct cpr protocol. He had no resuscitative equipment or rescue drugs (aside from flumazenil) with him, despite knowing there is no antidote - except the passage of time - for propofol. He didn't have the correct monitoring equipment with him. He administered a drug which is not accepted procedure for treatment of insomnia. He administered a drug in a home setting when it should be restricted to hospital. He kept on administering a drug which is known to be addictive and cause dependence. The doc did not appropriately refer MJ to a sleep specialist. CM did not tell police about phone calls he made. CM cannot give a straight story yet on the timeline of events.

Does this sound like an actor in a grand play, or as Katherine says, is he 'just trying to save his behind'. It's just my opinion, but considering the above, CM/the courts cannot logically be part of any hoax. Unless someone can logically elaborate further.

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The Double Theory / Marks on MJ's hands
« on: March 05, 2010, 11:46:02 AM »
What are the marks on MJ's hands. They were very noticeable on tv.

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Here is a recent example of a doctor being suspended while his case is investigated. He is charged with prescribing to family and friends, and falsifying names on prescriptions.

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I think you'll agree that his crimes pale in comparison to Murray's. So why, at least, has Murray not been suspended from practising. In the words of a GMC spokeswoman, “It is a measure the GMC can impose on a doctor’s registration when it may be in the best interest of the public safety and health.”

Is the law in CA different? Also, why was he not appropriately handcuffed?

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Murray's overnight visits
« on: March 01, 2010, 03:41:27 PM »
We know that CM was hired for weeks before the TII concerts. We know that Kai Chase said he would arrive in the evenings and stay overnight. He would sometimes move oxygen canisters. I know that some people have suggested that MJ would never use propofol (his responsibility to his kids/against his healthy principles etc), and indeed may not have used propofol up until that night of the 25th. Some suggestions that he never asked for propofol, and may have been unaware he was being given it on that particular night (which may be plausible) - pointing to foul play and set-up. Some suggestions also that Murray was hired to finish MJ.

Q. If Murray was regularly staying overnight for weeks, and we factor in Kai's testimony, what other reason would Dr.Murray stay overnight for, and why would he move oxygen canisters, if it were not for the administration of propofol. Does this not mean that MJ knew what he was doing and actively sought to use propofol?

(I don't condone what CM did)

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Jennifer Batten / Jennifer Batten defends MJ
« on: March 01, 2010, 11:39:03 AM »
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Michael Jackson's Doctor Faces a Thriller of a Trial!
Monday February 15, 2010

THIS April, in what many predict will be the most watched criminal proceeding since O.J. Simpson’s, Dr. Conrad Murray will be tried for involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson, the King of Pop. Meanwhile, the California Medical Board is filing a motion to revoke the cardiologist’s medical license.

Thirty years ago, Dr. George Nichopolous, was tried on the same charges in the death of Jackson’s father-in-law, Elvis Presley. The Tennessee Medical Board also moved to pull his license. Nichopolous was acquitted of manslaughter charges, and the board suspended him for three months.

In spite of the acquittal, Vernon Presley insisted that Dr. Nick had murdered his son. In The Death of Elvis, authors Thompson and Cole assert that the star’s father made an unsuccessful attempt to have the doctor assassinated at the Memphis Liberty Bowl.

The Jackson family has repeatedly stated its belief that Michael was murdered by Murray, in league with “a shadowy entourage.” Father Joe has denounced the manslaughter charge as inadequate, saying that Michael himself had predicted he might be murdered. Should Murray, like Nichopolous, be acquitted, the Jacksons’ only remaining option may be in a Wrongful Death civil action, such as that the Goldmans filed against the acquitted O.J.

Meanwhile, in the next months Dr. Conrad’s defense team will be pouring over “thousands of pages of evidence,” according to litigator, Michael Flanagan. His colleague, Ed Chernoff, has pledged that they will “fight like hell.” A former prosecutor, Chernoff is now a defense specialist who has lost only one felony jury trial out of forty. The third member of Murray’s team, Joseph Low, has never lost a murder case.

In spite of their collective talents comparable to O.J.’s Dream Team, the Murray team faces no easy task in proving to a jury that their client is not guilty of “gross negligence.”

In presenting evidence of this, the Prosecution will claim:

    Murray left the room after giving Jackson the anesthetic, propofol.
    He failed to intubate Jackson.
    He improperly administered CPR.
    He failed to immediately call 911.
    The Defense will have difficulty disproving the first two allegations. It will challenge the third with Murray’s own sworn statement that he placed a hand under Jackson’s back while administering CPR. Lastly, it will try to make credible Murray’s claim that he had no immediate landline to call 911, and that he couldn’t remember his street address for a cell phone call.

Chernoff will likely assert that his client made diligent efforts to substitute propofol with less potent sedatives. Similarly, Dr. Nicholopous’s lawyers successfully persuaded the jury that he had tried to “wean” Elvis off narcotics by using placebos. Though unable to make the same claim, Chernoff will stress that his client strenuously resisted Michael’s demands for “my milk” – his propofol.

Now Murray’s team will hammer on Jackson’s history of drug abuse and “doctor shopping.” It will remind the jury of the star’s own 1993 admission of painkiller abuse. It will outline the history of the Jackson family’s many unsuccessful drug interventions. It will enter into evidence documentation of the singer’s failed foreign dry-outs (Mexico, ’93; Seoul, ’99).

The Defense may also call to the stand Jackson’s first rehab doctor, Steven Hoefflin. In ’93 he warned the star’s managers: “Either the drugs are going to kill him or he’s going to die by flying out of a window, because he thinks he’s can fly.” Then the Defense may call Michael’s favorite physician, Dr. Arnold Klein, who stated that, during the’96 HIStory tour, the singer had traveled with an anesthesiologist who “took Michael down at night and brought him back up in the morning.”

Countering this evidence, the district attorney might point out that Jackson did not die on this anesthesiologist’s watch, as he did on Murray’s, because he was not grossly negligent. To prove that not all Michael’s doctors were “enablers,” the DA could call to the stand Dr. Eugene Aksenoff who refused him the stimulants he wanted, and his nurse, Cherilyn Lee, who refused to give him propofol.

Presenting evidence from the searches of Murray’s offices, computers, and car, prosecutors may try to prove that he ran a “pill factory.” Enumerating the half a million dollar court judgments against him, as well as his credit card defaults, and child support nonpayments, prosecutors will portray the defendant as a scofflaw and financial desperado.

The long sealed autopsy report will be hotly debated. Jackson was “fairly healthy” and had a “strong heart,” it concludes. Also, according to his AEG concert promoter, he had passed his three-hour physical exam “with flying colors.”

So, contrary to all the rumors about suffering possibly terminal conditions, Jackson apparently was not on the brink of death at all, the DA will insist. Illustrating this, the jury will surely be shown an animated Jackson rehearsing at the Staples Center the night before he died.

Rebutting, the Defense may remind the jury that the star had collapsed on stage in a previous rehearsal. As for the last, televised, event, the performer arrived three hours late, appearing listless and impaired, then apparently danced and sang energetically.

What perked him up? Chernoff might ask an expert medical witness. Could it have been amphetamines which the star had routinely used in the past?

If Jackson had used uppers to perform, getting to sleep that night would have been all the more difficult for him. Indeed, the sedatives Murray administered were inadequate, so Jackson begged him for surgical anesthesia.

Now the crucial question arises: Did the defendant administer a “safe” dose — a dose within accepted medical guidelines?

Experts will debate the “safe” dose issue based on the patient’s size, other drugs in his system, and his general health. The third variable is especially critical and could become Murray’s trump card. Why?

A doctor can competently and safely treat a patient only if he knows his true physical condition. Jackson had suffered many serious ailments over the years – some documented, others rumored – and kept his medical records closely guarded. Was Murray given access to the complete records? Unlikely. More likely, he was shown Jackson’s clean bill of health from the recent AEG physical. So, he administered a dose of propofol based on the reasonable assumption that Jackson was in good health.

The autopsy report itself confirmed this. But, paradoxically, it added that Jackson had suffered from “chronic lung inflammation, respiratory bronchiolitis… and patchy hemorrhage of right and left lungs.”

So the Defense might ask: How could the AEG physical have missed this, especially for a singer? Or was the lung abnormality redacted from the report, since the producers knew it could cause the delay or cancellation of their lucrative London concerts?

Chernoff might subpoena Jackson’s medical records to see if any of his many doctors had independently diagnosed lung disease. But the records could be altered or missing. If so, Chernoff could call for testimony from insiders who have stated that Jackson suffered from alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency and needed a lung transplant.

“Because Mr. Jackson’s severe pre-existing lung condition was not revealed to my client –by Mr. Jackson himself, his other doctors, and/or his producer’s medical examiners –he miscalculated a “safe” dose of propofol, assuming he was treating a ‘healthy’ patient,” Chernoff might tell the jury in closing. “As a result of their own negligent or deliberate failure to disclose a lung condition, Mr. Jackson’s suffered respiratory failure.”

Should the Defense risk taking this argument a step further, it could summon former Jackson employees who in recent years have said the star had threatened suicide and believed he had only a short time to live. In this way, a “suicide by doctor” scenario could be suggested. Murray would be portrayed as neither negligent nor unprofessional, but as an unwitting dupe. “A fall guy,” as Joe Jackson himself has insisted, but without a conspiracy behind him.

Even if conspiracy were a charge in People v. Murray, it would all but impossible to prove. But many Jackson managers and producers will be watching the trial closely since a king’s ransom in life insurance money will be at stake.

Sony, AEG, and untold other giants had multi-million dollar policies on the star. If he had been diagnosed with a terminal lung condition and concealed it, insurance pay-outs can be voided. If his drug abuse is deemed intentionally self-destructive, the pay-outs can also be voided. Weeks after his death, his estate executors – worried about the upcoming toxicology report – settled for $3 million on one $20 million policy.

In sum, this trial will be about far more than the liability of a single doctor in the death of an individual. It will be about enormous sums of money, and about a celebrity subculture of dangerous substance abuse fed by enablers. Above all, it will be about a universally loved pop idol who became a prisoner of that suffocating popularity and, ultimately, its victim.

Whatever in fact happens during this historic trial, and whatever verdict is reached, justice will not be the only issue, but hopefully it will be served.

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Prince / Prince (the artist formerly known as)
« on: February 26, 2010, 04:20:52 PM »
Hope this is not a double post. I don't know when this interview was done with Prince or in what context it is meant. If it was done after MJ's death and with reference to his death, then I find his comments a little perplexing! Without jumping to any conclusions, why is he so cryptic if he is indeed referring to MJ's passing? It's a pity we couldn't hear the question preceding it.

The relevant link is here. Watch 9.15 onwards.
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