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Messages to Michael / To type anything he could read...
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:07:42 PM »

I couldn't even begin to tell you how much you have impacted my life. When my mother was 15 she was pregnant with my sister and I. She jammed out to J5 everyday.  When I was just a year old Billie Jean came out.  My mother sang the song to me, but said my name instead. Mindy Jean. She has told me that for as long as she can remember I have been singing and dancing to your songs.  I do remember coming home everyday after school and watching Moonwalker, wishing I was one of those kids!  We have both had a similar relationship with our fathers so growing up my initials became MJ instead of MC and thus came my name by everyone...MJ.

Thank you for giving me someone to relate to in the darkest and lightest of moments.  When you understand that parents will be parents and forgiving them for what you feel is wrong is a purifying and just closure.

When I was 16 I met a man that did not treat me well.  I got pregnant and one of my most favorite memories is holding my 2 week son while he was crying, then putting on your music and slowly dancing and rocking with my eyes closed to one of your songs. I was holding my baby and feeling him and the music and when I opened my eyes he was asleep.  But the meaning in your song was so powerful, I couldn't let him go. I just sat and stared at how beautiful he was and it gave me confidence that I could be a great mother.

Thank you for your voice and your music and giving me a bond with my child.  He is now 11 and his favorite song is 2000 Watts.

When I was 20 I got pregnant again by this same man that did not treat me well.  For the sake of privacy I will not mention how badly he treated me, but I will say that I ended up in an abortion clinic because I did not want to have another from him.  They took me in and showed me the videos, told me what would happen and when I was sent back to the waiting room but in my head I was ready to go.  I hated this man that much.  I sat and watched as a man rubbed a rosary and  "You Are Not Alone"  came on. I was not even close to religious at the time. BUT I still got a weird feeling.  
My son is now 8 years old.

I thank you for being available to me when I thought the best decision for me was actually the worst decision I could have ever made.

This beautiful son of mine was born deaf and autistic. He didn't say mama until he was 9 months old and didn't start talking until he was three. He was very reclusive, but one day I started playing your music. He screamed and jumped around in circles.  He actually heard it. Ever since then I have been educating him on your life, your messages, and your music.  Now, he won't stop talking!  His vocabulary is out of this world.  He has watched your videos and actually learned software to direct his own videos and movies, he has a lot of friends, he is on a basketball team, and he mimics your dance moves and wants to show everyone what he has learned.  I have the most awesome video of him dancing to Thriller! I wish that you could see it one day.  His favorite song, however, is Smooth Criminal.

I thank you for giving inspiration to my son, when at one point I felt I would be helpless and hopeless, and giving him and me motivation to move forward.

In 2001 I ended up leaving this horrible man. I married in 2008.  Exactly 14 months later you "died" and I left him.
Ironically I took him back 7 months later...and he brought me one of your albums.  (I actually just realized JUST NOW that I married 7 years later and after 14 months (7+7) I left him. I've been obsessed with the number 7 since Pudge Rodriguez was with the Rangers in 1992 when I was 11 and that equals 21 which is 7x3 or 7+7+7)

I have never been a religious or spiritual person. To be quite honest whenever I thought of God or Jesus it always gave me a very uneasy feeling so I avoided it. I was curious about this feeling from the 9th grade on so I researched a bunch of religions but none of them made sense so I could never commit.  I just pushed it to the side hoping the feeling would go away.

After your "death" I cried. I cried for two weeks and then I was thinking about what I had seen and started researching. Then I saw that other people had been thinking the same things that I had!  I always looked to this site as a "what's new" and what will confirm my beliefs for almost a year and a half. Mo and Souza are right on target!
I finally decided to register recently to see what everyone was saying, but I was so scared that my beliefs would be criticized as asinine, not knowing if the research I had found over the 18 months would be accepted. But it was. For the most part anyway.  There are so many people in this world that know you, that feel you, that love you, that want to figure out how, when, and why you would do something like this and then figure out where and how you will come back.

The 4 W's and the H.

Your genius is absolutely amazing. I thank you now, the time being, for making the music if played loud in the mornings, motivates me to clean house, to do laundry in the afternoons and gives me good dreams in the evenings.

You have been there for me.  Throughout my entire life. I thank you in 100% L.O.V.E.

Through everything you may have to face: I WILL BE THERE. A SOLDIER IN YOUR ARMY.

You will always be in my heart,

Michael Jackson News / Analyzing Chopra interview CNN
« on: January 18, 2011, 11:27:26 AM »
This is how answering a question can be left open for one's own interpretation.

KING: You were not shocked at his death, Deepak? Do you still think Michael should be alive tonight?

DEEPAK CHOPRA, MICHAEL JACKSON'S LONGTIME FRIEND: No. Michael was a mythical being much of his life.
He was a mythical being. He died a mythical death.

(The definition of mythical is Existing in myth; not real; false or fabricated)

KING: How do you explain the bad publicity he got, which was terrible for a while, Gotham seems to have disappeared.

G. CHOPRA: I think, you know, in death that happens with a lot of people, and there's been this desperate need by some of the very same people who scandalized him to now celebrate him. And it is part of the mythical elevation, but, you know, at the end of the day he was also a guy who was probably somewhere in between that.

KING: Deepak, in your opinion, is this a fitting good-bye?

D. CHOPRA: It's magnificent, fitting, magical, mythical goodbye to a mythical human being….

 KING: What do you think, Gotham, he would have thought of this?

G. CHOPRA: I think he would have smiled at a lot of this. I mean we were all at the ceremony just a few weeks after he died at the Staples Center, and that was huge and epic, and thought that couldn't be topped. So this is clearly smaller, but as full of pageantry and, I think a lot of times these ceremonies are for the family.

(The definition of pageantry/pageant is an elaborate representation of scenes from history etc; usually involves a parade with rich costumes. Origin:
1350–1400; ME pagyn, pagaunt, pagand  < AL pāgina  a stage for plays, scene, platform)

D. CHOPRA: You know hardly any head of state would get this in the world.

KING: In your faith, Deepak, where is he now?

D. CHOPRA: Well, he is -- in my faith, his consciousness has survived his death, and that consciousness recycles itself.

( the definition of consciousness is an alert cognitive state in which you are aware of yourself and your situation)

KING: Do you think he might see this now?

D. CHOPRA: No. If he is incubating, he wouldn't. It depends, you know? He's in a sleep state and the basic matrix of thought forms that was Michael Jackson will recycle itself.

(The definition of recycle is to extract and reuse; to recondition and adapt to a new use or function)

KING: So he's not gone gone?

D. CHOPRA: Consciousness is never gone gone. You know?

Deepak, he called you shortly before he died. What did he say?

D. CHOPRA: He said I'm sorry you're not there. This was in my voice mail. I'm sorry you're not there. I have really good news for you. Please call me back. And by the time I called him back, the number had been disconnected

G. CHOPRA: Can I make a prediction?

KING: Yes.

G. CHOPRA: In the 20 years I knew him he was never on time for anything so my money is on this not starting on time.

References & Similarities / Channeled Message from Cherokee Billie
« on: January 15, 2011, 02:47:34 PM »
“To My Beautiful Loved Ones,

I want you to know how much I appreciate the love you keep sending to me. The sweet perfume of your love is so strong that it fills the spiritual kingdom. Whenever there’s a rush of this perfume, someone delivers a message to me, “See they haven’t forgotten you.” We’re all exhilarated by this love from you. You are all precious and I want you to know this.

I know that many of you pray to me, but please don’t, at this time I am not powerful in The Spirit world and I certainly am not a saint. I am able to communicate with you through little signs such as my music, brief glimpses of me, and even coming into your dreams. As I am trained I’m going to be able to help the world in a way that even I never imagined. My work has begun already because so many of you are starting to believe in life after death, a Supreme Power, and miracles. I always knew that I was meant to help the world, but it hasn’t been until I came into Spirit that I have been shown that I am going to make a tremendous change in the world. My soul is humbled by what I am being told. I never thought that I could make such a difference in the world.

I know that many people have changed their opinion about me from a negative to a positive since I died. I was judged so harshly when I was living and only my family, true friends and my dedicated fans never judged me. I went through so many humiliating experiences the last sixteen years of my life and I pray that no one ever has to go through what I did. All I ever tried to do is help children. I wanted to make them happy and not have to be miserable and feel neglected. Many of you have expressed a desire for Neverland to be a memorial for me. I want you to know that I never want Neverland to be any type of memorial for me. It represents the worst time of my life. That’s why I left, never went back, or gave it a second thought when I was alive.

Someday my family will make a memorial that the fans can go and visit. But you really don’t need a physical memorial to remember me by or to pay homage to, every time you think of me I come alive and I live in your hearts and that is a true memorial!

The greatest happiness I had in my life was my precious children. They really helped me recover from the emotional abuse I took in my life. I’m always going to be around them and I will be their guide throughout their lives. You’re going to see them become well adjusted and compassionate to others as they grow. I am proud of them.

Please remember that I am praying for you and always will. I am continually blessed by each one of you who loves me.

I love you,

Medical Discussion / Murray has been telling us too!!
« on: January 14, 2011, 11:27:13 AM »
I’m no medical expert, but I was looking up the medicines that were found in his home and asked my sister what they were. Then I started thinking about all the contradictions in what everyone was saying about Michael when they saw him. Murray said he wasn’t breathing, but he had a faint pulse, The paramedics thought he was dead, (suspicous but still possible in the ambulance photo that is supposedly fake we can clearly see a vein bulging from his forehead), the family said he was in a coma, some say he was cold and some say he was warm and the doctors at UCLA said he was alive.  Propofol is a sedative that can be injected once and depending on the dosage can make you drowsy. Most of the time it is given in a singular dosage for insomniacs and the effects only last 10 minutes. But if put in a dripping IV it sends you into a euphoric sleep state for 2-24 hours. He would have had to given him a shit ton of it to cause an overdose as the cause of death was only “acute propofol intoxication”.  It could be very possible that MJ liked propofol and used it as a sleeping aid.
But the timeline of events leading to MJ’s death just don’t make sense to me. Murray started giving Michael the benzodiazepines lorazepam  and midazolam which are pretty hardcore sedatives, but MJ still couldn’t sleep. Michael obviously knew a lot about prescription drugs and with Murray being a doctor he should have know these medicines combined with propofol can cause a state of deep unconsciousness (which is a coma) and make a person stop breathing. But Murray is saying that he thinks Michael injected himself with propofol while he was in the bathroom because when he got back he wasn’t breathing. So Murray calls all these people,  he hides the medicine he was giving him in a duffel bag. BUT why would he not hide the drugs that were found in the closet? These included midazolam and flumazenil. Oral midazolam is administered as a pre-anesthetic agent for pediatric patients. The usual dose is 0.5-0.75mg/kg.1 The dose is drawn up from the ampoule and mixed with juice prior to administration due to its bitter taste. The bioavailability of oral midazolam is 15-27%, onset of action 10-20 minutes, and duration of sedation 20 minutes to 3 hours.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. Also in the toxicology report it was not mentioned that flumazenil was in his system. Flumazenil is used to counteract the benzodiazepines and literally pushes them out of your system.
What if what really happened was, they started with the benzos in light doses and Murray was the one who was taking on the role of  “killing him”. So Murray hooked up the IV of propofol,  Michael drank the midazolam that was in the orange juice bottle by his bed (which would explain the defense saying that MJ drank propofol) to put himself into the deep sleep.  Then MJ knowing the results of what could happen injected himself with the flumazenil to counteract the benzos. (the reason why the defense would say he injected it himself.)  Then Murray had to wait until Michael was in that state of deep consciousness, or the coma in which his family described before having 911 called. This would also explain the children’s reaction if Michael didn’t want them to know what was going on just yet.  The paramedics arrive right when the effects of the propofol and benzos are taking place and he stops breathing, but by the time he reaches the hospital the flumazenil kicks in and he is alive again, but still sleeping. The family has to be in on it because they arrived at the hospital before he did, and that’s when Murray explains to the children what happened. And the doctor’s at UCLA did contribute to this “miracle unheard of” and MJ tells them that he wants to get out of the spotlight. They don’t confirm he is dead, but instead evacuate the building with the fire alarm and moved him into a private room to let him recover. Then when it is time for him to be taken to the coroner’s he is flown by helicopter. They don’t use the normal body bag to put him in the helicopter and it is speculated that the body moves, but for sake of investigation we can leave that up to just coincidence right now. I think it there was some kind of documenting going on there at the coroners and the reason why the family had to have a second autopsy done was so they could have a friend help out and say that Jackson was healthy and no rigormortis was found to give us a clue he is not dead.  I also find it strange that Discovery wanted to show a documentated re-inactment of  Jackson’s auptopsy. Also in an article on June 26 “The autopsy is complete, but the Los Angeles Coroner's Office isn't expected to rule on Michael Jackson's cause of death for several weeks — until toxicology and other additional testing is completed. Chief Coroner Craig Harvey said at a Friday afternoon news conference that more tests have been ordered and will take approximately four to six weeks, but authorities have found no evidence of external trauma or foul play. Police stressed on Thursday that the doctor was not a criminal suspect. There has been speculation that drugs may have played a role in the death of the icon, with TMZ citing sources who claim he was given a "heavy dose of morphine" before his death. Other reports claim that Jackson received a shot of Demerol — a similar narcotic— shortly before his death.”
Isn’t it strange that these media sources are basing their stories on what TMZ has to say?  What sources told TMZ about morphine and demerol. Those were never ordered by Murray and neither was found in the home. It could have been Michael telling them to say that because his song Morphine is talking about the media making him sick, and being liars. He also says “heart attack”, “Is truth a game..To win the fame…It's all the same.” You can also here him speaking in this song “Listen to what the doctor says”  before he sings “Demerol, Oh God he’s taking Demerol”.  Maybe this is why Murray is saying he did nothing wrong and that the truth will prevail.
 It probably wasn’t supposed to happen that he was filmed getting out of the coroner’s van when he was taken to the morgue so he contacted his friends at TMZ to make the cover up video. (I am also assuming that because June 26 is an 8 date and the day the proving of the hoax video was released is also an 8 date. See more on my numerology connections on this post You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)

The Numbers Theory / Predicting future dates
« on: January 13, 2011, 03:02:56 PM »
I read this and I think it is such a great idea it deserves it's own thread. I hope it hasn't been done already. If so I'm sorry. Please delete.  :D

Quote from: "Andalusa"
* People are good at recognizing patterns. While this helps people learn to read, count and recognize faces, it can also encourage people to interpret random events as patterns.

I really do think that if we come together to notice a pattern and keep the numerology organized.

What I have done today is I added the dates of a few events. Here is what I have so far. Please add more so we can see if the numbers are pointed directly to certain events and or persons.I think it will help us to predict future dates!

*TII producer claims there were no doubles used
*Janet admits she thinks Murray killed MJ
*Toxicology reports confirm the medications in MJ’s system

*Coroner delays the release of the autopsy report
*The death certificate is amended
*Investigation is complete
*Murray visits MJ’s grave

*The coroner says they got MJ’s remains at 2am and she was stunned to see there was no sign of decomposition or other post mortem. “Plastic” surgery could be the reason.
*Kenny talks about MJ’s kids and MJ the “filmmaker”
*Sony announces TTI is to open on 10/28 not 10/30
*Autopsy is revealed
*Jackson brothers go on CNN to announce their reality show

*Jermaine’s slip up interview where he says airport instead of hospital
*Coroner van video is proven a hoax
*Latoya claims she gets messages from Michael
*MJ’s memorial wins a NAACP award
*Drug stash is found in Michael’s house

*A new MJ song was released on the internet
*Announced that holographic technology will be used to bring MJ “back to life”
*A book “Michael Jackson, The Master of Illusions” surfaced
*Gotham Chapra tweets about Michael’s “mythical death”

*Bloody shirt is found
*TMZ reports MJ has not been buried yet, Murray was not living at the residence
*MJ’s new album announced
*A mistake on the will is found
*TIAI appears on the internet
*Janet Jackson says the inspiration for her new movie comes from the death of MJ

*Coroner van video is leaked
*Ortega admits he was hesitant to take on TII
*Jackson family states the kids are happy
*The bodyguard Alvarez is fired
*3D version of We Are The World is released

*Jermaine interviews and says Ireland was MJ’s getaway and that he would have wanted to do a reality show
*Bearden says MJ was in good shape
*MJ’s grave on 24/7 security watch
*TMZ announces the IMMORTAL tour
*Murray asks to delay the hearing

*Murray releases his youtube video
*Arraignment is rescheduled due to the feud between the LAPD and the DA. Murray’s defense claims the DA is acting “suspiciously slow”
*Travis Payne releases the prison version of “They Don’t Really Care About Us”

*The first information on TII and the poster is revealed
*A clip of “We Are The World” surfaces with a suspicious man in a green suit
*Joe says he doesn’t want MJ fans to attack Murray supporters
*Defense starts claiming MJ killed himself

I had a dream that I met Michael at a movie theater. He was wearing a silk, lavender robe with Mickey Mouse all over it. I looked up the connection with him and Mickey and found out there was a Disney film called "Simply Mad About The Mouse". LL Cool J used snippets of Billie Jean in a cover. At the beginning there is a sketch of Mickey (the creating of) and he is in a wizard costume. He then uses his magic (that turns into musical notes) to take a sheet of written music to unlock a secret vault. So I decided to find out what Michael was REALLY saying in his music. This is from Off the Wall all the way through Invincible. I took the song, broke down the lyrics and eliminated the "fluff". I found the lyrics that captivated the true meaning of the song. I must stress that I did not add anything to it at all. I did not mix up verses at all. This is all in complete order of each song and each album. Michael always said he liked to tell can be difficult not to start singing when you recognize the song, but if you read it like a's amazing. I imagined him sitting by himself alone writing this. I cried. I can tell why he wanted to make this a movie!!!!!  Here's the plot. Enjoy.

You love to pretend that you’re no good. When you’re always up to no good. So your tongue became a razor, talking, screamin, lyin, still they hate you. You’re a vegetable. Billie Jean is always talking, telling lies and rubbin shoulders. Lift your head up high and scream out to the world I know I am someone and let the truth unfurl. No one can hurt you now because you know what’s true. Yes, I believe in me, so you believe in you. Warm you in my arms and melt your fears away. Show you all the magic that a perfect love can make.  As long as we believe in love. I won’t give you reason to change your mind. You’re everything this world could be. The reason that I live. There’s no more I can say. One day you’ll discover I don’t build your hopes to be let down cause I really feel it’s time.

Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart. You try to scream, but terror takes the sound before you make it. You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes.  You close your eyes and hope that this is just imagination.  There’s no escaping the jaws of the alien this time. This is the end of your life. They will possess you unless you change that number on the dial. I can thrill you more than any ghost would ever dare try. They told him don’t you ever come around here.  Don’t wanna see your face, you better disappear.  The fire’s in their eyes and their words are really clear. You better run, you better do what you can. They’re out to get you, better leave while you can. You wanna stay alive, better do what you can. You have to show them that you’re really not scared. You’re playin with your life, this ain’t no truth or dare. They’ll kick you, then they beat you, then they’ll tell you it’s fair.  People always told me be careful what you do. Don’t go around breaking young girl’s hearts. And mother always told me be careful who you love. Be careful what you do cause the lie becomes the truth. For forty days and forty nights the law was on her side. But who can stand when she’s in demand her schemes and plans. So take my strong advice, just remember to always think twice.

 Looking out across the night time, get me out, four walls can’t hold me tonight.  If this town is just an apple then let me take a bite. If they say why, why? Tell em that it’s human nature. Reaching out to touch a stranger electric eyes are everywhere.  Don’t you know now is the perfect time we can make it right. Just put your trust in my heart. A treasure time won’t steal away. Let me fill you with my dreams. Reach out to a fantasy. Just show your face. I’m telling you on how I feel. Gonna hurt your mind. Don’t shoot to kill come on lay it on me alright. I’m giving you on count of three to show your stuff or let it be. I’m telling you just watch your mouth. I know your game, what you’re about. Well they say the sky’s the limit and to me that’s really true. But my friend you have seen nothing Just wait til I get through. And the whole world has to answer right now.  The word is out you’re doin wrong. Gonna lock you up before too long, you’re lyin eyes Gonna take you right so listen up.  Don’t make a fight. Your talk is cheap, you’re not a man, you’re throwin stones to hide your hands. And my friends you have seen nothin. We can change the world tomorrow. This could be a better place. You know I’m smooth, I’m bad. You know it. Ain’t nobody’s business but mine and my baby. Give it to me, give me some time. I’m headed for the border it’s on my mind. And nothing really matters and nothing gonna stop me, ain’t no stop and go. You’re the very same one who said the future’s in your hands. The life you save could be your own. You’re preachin bout my life like you’re the law. Gonna live each day and hour like for me there’s no tomorrow. You came and changed my world just like in the movies. Before you make a big mistake, remember that looks can fool you. There’s something I would sure appreciate if you can keep a secret. You better take advice never trust first impressions. You better know where you stand.

 Listen up, we’ve got a problem here. I can see the signs. Don’t you wanna know? We’re takin over, we have the truth. This is the mission to see it through.  Don’t point your finger this is our planet. You’re one of us. We’re sendin out a major love and this is our message to you.  A rather nation, fulfill the truth, the final message we bring to you. The planets are linin up, we’re bringin brighter days, they’re all in line waitin for you. Can’t you see? You’re just another part of me. I’m gonna make a change for once in my life.  It’s gonna feel real good, gonna make a difference, gonna make it right.  I’m starting with the man in the mirror. I’m asking him to change his ways. And no message could have been any clearer. If you wanna make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change. A lot of people misunderstand me. That’s because they don’t know me at all. I long to get by. This time is forever. Love is the answer. At night when the stars shine I pray in you I’ll find a love so true.
The curtain comes down for those who have prestige who promise fortune and fame, a life that’s so carefree. So they came into the outway, it was a Sunday, what a black day.  Mouth to mouth resus-citation, sounding heartbeats, intimidations. Then you ran into the bedroom, you were struck down, it was your doom. Will you tell us that you’re ok? I don’t know! There’s a sign in the window. Left bloodstains on the carpet.

I have to find my peace cause no one seems to let me be. False prophets cry of doom, what are the possibilities the world keeps changing rearranging minds and thoughts. Predictions fly of doom do we know right from wrong?  I just want you to recognize me in the temple. You can’t hurt me I found peace within myself. Michael Jackson, smooth criminal, that’s the man. Bum rushed the door, 3 and 4’s in a bundle execute the plan. They say I’m different, they don’t understand. But there’s a bigger problem that’s much more in demand. You got strange diseases ah but there’s no cure. You got many doctors that aren’t so sure. So tell me why you wanna trip on me? We’ve got so much corruption, police brutality. What are you doing to try to stop this? There’s something I have to say to you if you promise you’ll understand. It’s worth the giving, it’s worth the try, dare me. It’s just a feeling. You have to soothe it, you can’t neglect it, you can’t abuse it, it’s just desire. You can not waste it. One thing in life you must understand the truth of lust woman to man. So open the door and you will see there are no secrets. Make your move. Set me free. Come to the place shock to see and you know damn well, you know what I mean. Hot in the face 1 and 3 like a pleasure trip. Like you’ve never seen. Do you remember how it all began? It just seemed like heaven so why did it end? Do you remember those special times. They’ll just go on and on in the back of my mind. Those sweet memories will always be dear to me. Who knows the situation. Mysteries do remain and now I wonder why I breakdown when I cry. Is it something I said or is it just a lie. I tried to mastermind it by saying let it be but everytime I did it, the hurt came back to me.  Think about the generations and to say we want to make it a better world for our children and our children’s children. There’s a place in your heart and I know that it is love and this place could be much brighter than tomorrow. If you want to know why there’s a love that cannot lie. Love is strong it only cares for joygul giving. If we try we shall see in this bliss we can not feel fear or dread and the dream we once conceived in will reveal a joyful face and the world we once believed in will shine again in grace. Then why do we keep strangling life, wound this earth, crucify its soul though it’s plain to see this world is heavenly be God’s glow. They print my message in the Saturday Sun. I had to tell them I ain’t second to none. And I told about equality and it’s true. Either you’re wrong or you’re right. I am tired of this devil, I am tired of this stuff, I am tired of this business so when the going gets rough I ain’t scared of no brother, I ain’t scared of no sheets. I ain’t scared of nobody girl when the going gets mean. And it doesn’t seem to matter and it doesn’t seem right cause the will has brought no future still I cry alone at night. Don’t you judge of my composure cause I’m lyin to myself I am the damned, I am the dead, I am the agony inside the dying head. This is injustice woe unto thee I pray this punishment would have mercy on me. I need to find the truth but see what will I do? Who is it? Is it a friend of mine? Is it my brother? Somebody hurt my soul now. I can’t take it cause I’m lonely.  It seems you get your kicks from hurting me. Don’t try to understand me because your words just aren’t enough.  You and your friends were laughing at me in town. But it’s okay you won’t be laughing girl when I’m not around I’ll be okay. Gotta find the peace of mind, no. But they told me a man should be faithful, and walk when not able, and fight till the end but I’m only human.  Everyone’s taking control of me. Seems the world’s got a role for me I’m so confused.  Will you show to me, you’ll be there for me and care enough to bare me.  In our darkest hour, in my deepest despair will you still care?  Will you be there?  In my trials and my tribulations, through our doubts and frustrations, in my violence and my turbulence through my fear and my confessions. In my anguish and my pain, through my joy and sorrow. In the promise of another tomorrow I’ll never let you part for you’re always in my heart. Through the heart of your surrender to your alibis and you can say the words like you understand. But the power’s believing. Don’t let nobody take you down brother Just keep your eyes on the prize and your feet flat on the ground. I know that keeping the faith means never givin up on love. But the power that love has to make it right makes it right. Look at yourself and what you’re doin right now. Stand back a minute just to check yourself out. Because it’s just a matter of time but till that day I said you’ve got to keep the faith.

Born to amuse, to inspire, to delight, here one day, gone one night. Like a sunset dying with the rising of the moon. Gone too soon. I never knew but I was walking the line. Come go with me, I said have no time I was at the point of no return.  Deep in the darkness of passion’s insanity I felt taken by lust’s strange inhumanity. Tired of injustice, tired of the schemes. The lies are disgusting so what does it mean. Kicking me down, I got get up as jacked as it sounds this whole system sucks. With such confusions don’t it make you wanna scream. Your bash abusing, victimize with the scheme. Tired of you telin the story your way it’s causin confusion you think it’s okay. Skin head, dead head, everybody gone bad. Situation, aggravation, everybody allegation. In the suite, on the news. All I wanna say is they don’t really care about us. Beat me, hate me you can never break me. Will me, thrill me, you can never kill me. Jew me, sue me, everybody do me. Kick me, kike me, don’t you black or white me. I am the victim of police brutality. I’m tired of being a victim of hate. You’re rapin me of my pride oh for God’s sake. I look to heaven to fulfill its prophesy, set me free.  Am I invisible because you ignore me? Your proclamation promised me free liberty.  I’m tired of being the victim of shame. They’re throwin me in a class with a bad name. I can’t believe this is the land in which I came. You know I really do hate to say it, the government don’t wanna see, but if Martin Luther were livin he wouldn’t let this be.
I was wandering in the rain. Mask of life, feelin insane swift and sudden fall from grace. Sunny days seem far away Kremlin’s shadow belittling me, Stalins tomb won’t let me be. On and On and On it came. Here abandoned in my fame. Armageddon of the brain. How does it feel when you’re alone and you’re cold inside. Like a stranger in Moscow. Lord have mercy. This time around I’ll never get bit though you really wanna fix me. This time around you’re making me sick through you really wanna get me. Somebody’s out to get me. He really thought he really had control of me. They thought they really could control me. You know you can’t control me. Listen I’ve got problems of my own. Flashin cameras, taps on my phone even in my home I ain’t safe as I should be. Things always missin. Maybe it could be my friends. This time around I changed my flow.  
What have we done to the world. Look what we’ve done. What about all the peace that you pledge your only son. Hey what about yesterday. The heavens are falling down. I can’t even breathe. What about the crying man. What about Abraham. What about death again. Do we give a damn. They wanna get my ass dead or alive. You know he really tried to take me down by surprise. I bet he missioned with the CIA. He don’t do half what he say. Money…lie for it, spy for it, kill for it, die for it. So you call it trust but I say it’s just in the devil’s game of greed and lust. They don’t care. They’d do me for money. The thrill for the money. If you give me a hand then I will shake it. Where do your loyalties lie? Is that your alibi? I don’t think so. You don’t care. He roller coaster, he’s got early warning. He’s got muddy water he one mojo filter. He say one and one and one is three. Got to be good looking cause he’s so hard to see. Come together right now over me.  

Everyday I sit and ask myself how did love slip away. Something whispers in my ear and says that you are not alone for I am here with you. Though you’re far away I am here to stay. People say I’m not okay cause I love such elementary things. It’s been my fate to compensate, for the childhood I’ve never known. Before you judge me, try hard to love me. I’m searching for that wonder in my youth like fantastical stories to share. The dreams I dare, watch me fly. Speculate to break the one you hate. Circulate the lie you confiscate, assassinate and mutilate. The hounding media in hysteria. Who’s the next for you to resurrect. It’s slander. You say it’s not a sword but with your pen you torture men. You’d crucify the Lord and you don’t have to read it, and you don’t have to eat it, to buy is to feed it. So why do we keep foolin ourselves. Just becaue you read it in a magazine or see it on a tv screen don’t make it factual. Frame him if you could, shoot to kill. To blame him if you will if he dies, sympathize. Such false witnesses damn self righteousness.

To escape the world I’ve got to enjoy that simple dance and it seemed that everything was on my side. Blood on my side. Look who took you under with seven inches in. Blood is on the dance floor. Blood is on the knife and I just can’t take it. He got flat, kick in the back. A heart attack. I need your body. Kicked in the face, you hate your race, you’re just a liar. This won’t hurt you, before I put it in close your eyes and count to ten. Don’t cry. I won’t convert you there’s no need to dismay close your eyes and drift away. He got shit, your dog’s a bitch, you make me sick. You are a liar. You just sit around just talking nothing. I’m going down. Love ain’t what it used to be. That what they are telling me I can’t believe the things I see. Thinkin they got it made. They don’t know what they used to hate.  There’s something in the walls, there’s blood up on the stairs and it’s floating through the room. And there’s nothing I can see and I know that that’s the truth because now it’s onto me. I don’t understand it. And who gave you the right to shake my family? And who gave you the right to shake my baby she needs me? And you gave you the right to shake my family tree?  You put a knife in my back shot an arrow in me. Tell me are you the ghost of jealousy? I’m gonna be exactly what you see. It’s you whose haunting me. Your warning me to be the stranger in your life. Am I amusing you or just confusing you. Am I the beast you visualized and you wanna see eccentrialities I’ll be grotesque before your eyes. But if you came to see the truth, the purity It’s here inside a lonely heart.  So let the performance start.

Masquerade the heart is the height of haunting souls. Just now what you seek of me. Can the heart reveal the proof like a mirror reveals the truth? See the evil one is you. Now I’m just wondering why you think that you can get me with anything seems like you’d know by now when and how I get down. And with all that I’ve been through I’m still around. Don’t you ever make no mistake I’ve got what it takes. And theres no way you’ll ever get to me. Why can’t you see that you’ll never ever hurt me cause I won’t let it be, see I’m too much for you. You can’t believe it, you can’t conceive it and you can’t touch me cause I’m untouchable and I know you hate it. And you can’t take it. You’ll never break me cause I’m unbreakable. Now you can’t stop me even though you think that if you block me you’ve done your thing. And when you bury me underneath all your pain I’m steady laughin while surfacing. You can try to stop me, but it won’t do a thing no matter what you do. I’m still gonna be here through your lies and silly games. I’ll still remain the same, I’m unbreakable. But everyone told me so, to stop caring about you and start being without you, but I’ll find a way to go and start doin without you and stop talking about you.  She will say I was the man that got away.

Now many times I’ve told you all the things I would do but I can’t seem to get through no matter how I try to. So tell me how does it seem that you aint checking for me. When I know that I could be more that you could ever dream. There’s imagination, I bet you’ve never been there before. Have you wanted to dream about those places you’ve never known. Let’s not wait, the sun is out, lets get up and let’s get out. It’s the day, a brand new day, let’s both go outside and play.

No, if the angels took me from this earth I would tell them to bring me back to her. It’s a change I’ll take. Maybe I’ll stay. Heaven can wait. In time I knew love would bring that happiness to me. I tried to keep my sanity I waited patiently. All you gotta do is just walk away and pass me by. Don’t acknowledge my smile when I try to say hello to you and all you gotta do is not answer my calls when I’m trying to get through. To keep me wondering why, when all I can do is sigh.  Gone is the grace for expressions of passion but there are worlds and worlds of ways to explain to tell you how I feel. My head’s spinning like a carousel so silently I pray helpless and hopeless, that’s how I feel. Inside nothing’s real, but all is possible if God is on my side. I am standing in the place called Hallowed Ground. You feel I’m real. I’m everything you need so tell whats the deal. Be careful what you say don’t overload. 2000 watts, 8 ohms, 200 volts, real strong. Too much of that, fuse blown. Shorty really wanna be there for me.  Some of you still wonder why one of my friends had to die to get the message across that yet you haven’t heard. My friend was chased and confused like many others I knew. She get no second chance she ridiculed and harassed please tell me why. Now there’s a lesson to learn. Respect's not given, it’s earned. Stop maliciously attacking my integrity. Now there’s a lesson to learn. Stories are twisted and turned.

See now why all my dreams been broken.  I don’t know where we’re going. Everything we said and all we done now. Don’t let go I don’t wanna walk away. Somebody’s missing a friend, hold on, somebody’s lacking a hero and they have not a clue when it’s all gonna end. Stories buried and unfold. Someone is hiding the truth. When will this mystery unfurl. Faces fill with madness, miracles unheard of. Faith is found in the winds all we have to do is reach for the truth. And when that flag blows there’ll be no more wars and when all calls I will answer all your prayers. Show the world. When you sit there addressing, counting your blessings, biding time your time. When you lay me down sleeping amd my heart is weeping because I’m keeping a place for all the lost children. Everything will be alright, he assures her but she doesn’t hear a word he says preoccupied because she’s afraid that what they’re doing is not right. Whatever happens don’t let go of my hand.

The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown. And this person or this is soon to be met. He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion. Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster.
I’m not a ghost from Hell, but I’ve got a spell on you. Your worst nightmare, its me, its everywhere. In one blink I’ll disappear and then I’ll come back to haunt you. The unknown monster is about to embark from a far corner out of the dark. A nightmare that’s the case. Never Neverland, that’s the place. This particular monster can read minds, be in two places at the same time. This is judgment night, execution, slaughter. The devil, the ghosts, this monster is torture. You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate. A human presence that you feel is strange. A monster that you can see disappear. A monster, the worst thing to fear. What you have witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn’t. It’s just the beginning.

Michael / Lyrics Combined
« on: January 10, 2011, 02:34:16 PM »
Looking at the lyrics from songs 1-10 I picked out some intriguing statements. You can say I forced them together, but most of them are the in betweens of the hoo and hee and baby and uh huh. I chose what stood out to me and these are the lyrics taken directly as they are from the songs IN ORDER of each track on the album.

This life don’t last forever. So tell me what we’re waiting for. Things will get better if you just hold my hand.
She gave up her life to follow her dreams, left behind everything for the movie scene. Nothing more she could want she was determined to follow her plan. She wanted Hollywood, she wanted it bad. Now that she got her dream, she became a star. It all looked so good, but only from afar.  Imprisoned in every paparazzi’s camera, every guy wished they could.
It’s true that you may never have that chance again. She's looking for the hope and the empty promises. She cries inside every time she feels this way. I can't even breathe! I can't even see! I wish that love would come today!  Fight the circumstance, Rising too, again! You’ll see….
Hollywood just look in the mirror and tell me you like don’t you, don’t you like it. He’s a monster, He’s an animal. But they are gunning for the money so they fake it. Why are they never satisfied with and all you give. I am forever. Just when you thought he was done he comes to give it again. You write the words to destroy like it’s a weapon. You turn your back on the love and you think you can get it again. I walked away but I was wrong. How will I get through this storm? It’s just too much for me. All along I had to talk about it. You sit behind the mask and you control your world. Try to find the truth but that’s your hiding place. There is nothing in your eyes. You’re just studying my mind. I Walk around I’m sufferin’ in my doom so take off the mask so I can see your face. What talk about?
Thinking out things that won’t be the same but who knows what the future brings. Take away this never ending sorrow, take this lonely feeling from my soul. Hope to make a change now for the better then letting fate control my soul. I hoping that my friends will see.

« on: January 09, 2011, 03:42:14 PM »
On the first day of the trial I went to the livesstream on TMZ. When I looked at the article I didn't THINK anything different about it, but I FELT something different. The words that were bold and green were "Michael Jackson, court, hearing and showed."  Obviously words to help in the search engine. But I just couldn't get past the advertisements linked to them. For some reason I had a pulling force telling me to research.

These links were to,, and how to find a theater near you. How could any of this link to MJ?  Well if you google "Ed Chernoff acting' you see that he is actually a character in a 1979 TV show. It is called Time Express. There was only 4 episodes that aired before it was canceled. The Time Express is a supernatural train designed to TRAVEL  back in time to important moments in their past. The first episode starred THEATER actor Jerry Stiller who played a character named EDWARD CHERNOFF, and also starred Vincent Price (the guy that does the creepy rap/laugh in Thriller) The train always departs from gate Y track 13. The first show is called Garbage Man / Doctor's wife. In this first show, the garbage man (Ed Chernoff) goes back in time to return $2 MILLION DOLLARS that he found and a physician goes back in time to find his wife's brother who died and was needed for a transplant.  (Watch this video and in the first ten seconds tell me what name you think this woman is saying. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)

The train always departs from track 13 and it just so happens that on the 25th Anniversary edition of Thriller track number 13 is "Wanna be startin' somethin'" which uses the words "It's Too High To Get Over (Yeah, Yeah) Too Low To Get Under" and Barry Friedberg, the doctor who so oddly was at the courthouse promoting his book on Propofol "Getting Over Getting Under."  Also in "Wanna Be Startin' Something' he uses the terms "you're a vegetable" which is also used in the "new" song "Monster".   AND I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but when I listen to the backmasked version of "This Is It' there is one part that reminds me of this part in "Wanna Be Startin Somethin'"  
Lift Your Head Up High
And Scream Out To The World
I Know I Am Someone
And Let The Truth Unfurl
No One Can Hurt You Now
Because You Know What's True
Yes, I Believe In Me
So You Believe In You

I think there is a lot more to it and if anyone else has any screenshots of previous articles can you please post them as a reply or let me know what words are green / bold so I can look at what it points to?

The Double Theory / How many MJ's could have been involved?
« on: January 06, 2011, 01:37:58 PM »
We know that using a dead body to make people believe it was yourself that had died would be illegal, but hoaxing your death because you thought you were in danger is not illegal. Hence MJ telling Katherine he felt someone was trying to kill him. What if, Michael had started this hoax a long time ago and he knew all of all the legality issues so he came up with this plan. He had fans all over the world that would do anything for him. People even killed themselves after learning of his "death". And we know he was always traveling to hospitals visiting people with terminally ill diseases. So, what if he found someone (not one but two) people completely devoted to him, that were willing to do anything, that resembled him, and were ill. Remember there was that rumor he had cancer. So he had these people change their name legally to Michael Joe Jackson and Michael Joseph Jackson and they all got the same surgeries to look more like each other (more than one person has admitted to doing this). This would explain why people assumed he had more than two surgeries, why he always looked different and at times was ill and other times completely fine. Let’s say one agreed in writing prior to death that at the time of his death his body could be plastinated. Body donation is not regulated through licensure and inspection by the federal government and most states in the United States. AND the other person was the one who was getting all the pills because of his disease and he was the one being taken care of by Dr. Murray. Which would explain the lack of appropriate equipment needed to take care of the real MJ if he was in the state told to us. (I think Dr. Murray was a cardiologist in Houston, but also a very desperate man willing to go through with the preliminary trial for a large sum of money promised to him after MJ comes back.) Also in the middle of the movie TII they go to a split screen where there are 3 MJ’s dancing in the same manner which could be a clue to this. Also, I noticed that there is one MJ that always wears sunglasses and doesn’t get a close up, dances weird and is always with the vocal coach, one MJ that wears sunglasses, but takes them off or pulls them down and one MJ that never wears the sunglasses. The one that wears the sunglasses but takes them off and puts them back on is the “sick MJ” and the one used for the O2 conference because in one of the scenes in TII he is wearing the same jacket worn at the conference. Lets translate this knowledge into what happened the day of “The Death”.

Dr. Murray is taking care of the sick MJ and that’s why all the medical supplies are there. They get a cue from real MJ that the plastinated body has arrived, so Murray makes his pretend phone calls to bodygaurds for the phone records. Kids see the sick MJ and think it’s their dad, so the bodygaurd there says he’ll take care of it and tells nanny to tell them the truth. Murray and Alvarez put all the medical supplies in a bag to hide so nobody figures out they were for the sick MJ and not the real MJ. It takes them 20 minutes and 3 bodygaurds to get the sick MJ out of the bed and the plastinated body in and inject it with propofol before they make their fake 911 call. Chief of police knows it’s a hoax so he has someone take the call, that is also involved, and he calls the paramedic actors to go out to MJ’s house. He also realizes he is probably going to get fired once the truth comes out and that is why he resigned, but still promised money so he’s ok. The fake ambulance comes out to the house and picks up the plastinated body while the sick MJ is also taken to the hospital and the real MJ is taken to the airport. During the hour the doctors supposedly tried to bring MJ back to life they were actually being told of what was going on and why. During the fire alarm at the hospital the plastinated body was taken to the coroners in an unmarked vehicle while they transported the sick MJ in a helicopter to distract the media. At the coroners office, they too were already let in on the hoax and that is why the name Michael Joe Jackson is put on the autopsy report instead of the name Michael Joseph Jackson. They do an autopsy on the plastinated Michael to make up the fake report but since the body was already dead, the doctors at the hospital and the coroner would not sign the death certificate nor release an official report. There were no drugs found the day he “died” so the day after the death the family goes to MJ’s house, takes some of his belongings to ship to him where he is hiding and plants the medicines that were to be described in his death.

This Is It was actually rehearsal footage for what is to be a part of The Immortal Tour. It will be announced 7 days prior to the first show by Michael himself that those who purchased tickets to This Is It can also use those tickets to see the Cirque du soleil show. We can see proof of this when they are showing the aerialist in the rehearsal footage of TII. During this time they were also planning and discussing the memorial and burial services. At the memorial, MJ wanted to send the message that he wanted us to remember the King of Pop, but that he himself was alive. The only way he could be himself is if he “killed” the king of pop so he could reveal his true self by presenting it to us in a familiar fashion of a movie. Hence the Gilda scene in TII. The purpose of the burial scene is to signify that the king of pop is literally buried so that when he returns he will only be Michael Jackson.

References & Similarities / Michael is more than an Angel!
« on: January 03, 2011, 11:12:26 PM »

In the outline of the Tribulation the "antichrist" comes at the first seal. The word antichrist is actually not used in Revelations. But we are given a description of the ten horned beast.  

    Seven-year covenant or peace treaty with Israel is confirmed by the Antichrist. Daniel 9:27
    Antichrist is revealed. 1st Seal - White Horseman 2 Thessalonians 2:3,6-7, Daniel 11:36 Revelation 6:1-2

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As you can see the Antichrist is revealed at the opening of the 1st seal when the first horseman is to come and shout. Many think that this is the antichrist but here is proof that it is Jesus himself.

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!”  I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.” (Revelation 6:1-2)

Is the first horseman Jesus?
He was given a crown, is this likely to refer to Christ who had many crowns (see Rev 19:12)  The crown is a victors crown as distinguished from a royal crown (diadema), the victors crown is appropriate for someone going forth to conquer. The crown is not the same type of crown that the beast wears (13:1) or Christ wears in 19:12 who both wear the royal crown (diadema) although the 'son of man' in 14:14 wears the victors crown.

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Interestingly it is said in Malachi 3:1 and 4:5-6 which reads:
Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts (3:1).1
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (4:5-6).

Who was Elijah/Elias? Malachi said Elijah would come again, and we know that Jesus said John the Baptist was Elijah, and John the Baptist denied being Elijah, and Jesus said Elijah was still coming. During his ministry Elijah was used by God to call Israel to repentance and to perform many miracles. He is unique in the Bible as he was one of two people who never died physically, being taken up to heaven in a fiery chariot (II Kings 2:1-12). He appears again in Mt. 17:1-4 on the Mount of Transfiguration along with Moses.
It's obvious that when Jesus spoke in Matt. 11:13-14, concerning John being “Elijah who is to come.” He was not speaking in a solid, literal sense. Jesus was metaphorically comparing 2 different things that also shared some similarities and functions. The Jewish scriptures always taught resurrection, not reincarnation. Each person is given 1 body to live in and will be reunited with that same body in the resurrection. When one takes the whole body of scripture instead of isolating verses, we find the consistent teaching that refutes any concept of Elijah becoming John the Baptist and then becoming Elijah again.
The purpose of Elijah's coming would be three fold, 1) to restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers i.e., bring repentance to the land, 2) to prevent the land from being cursed by God, 3) to prepare the way for the Messiah's coming. The “Elijah” of Jesus' second coming is found in Rev. 11:1-14. In this section of the Book of Revelation, John describes the “two witnesses” of God who prophesy for twelve hundred and sixty days, which is forty–two months or three and a half years at which time it does not rain.  Elijah is also equated with the Archangel Sandalphon, whose four wing beats will carry him to any part of the earth.  Yet another name for Elijah is "Angel of the Covenant". Moses and Elijah are seen as possibilities for the two witnesses due to the witnesses' power to turn water into blood (Revelation 11:6), which Moses is known for (Exodus chapter 7), and their power to destroy people with fire (Revelation 11:5), which Elijah is known for (2 Kings chapter 1).
He also supposedly had a twin brother named Enoch and the successor Elisha. Some of the earliest sources on Sandalphon refer to him as the prophet Elijah transfigured and elevated to angelic status.[1] Other sources (mainly from the midrashic period) describe him as the "twin brother" of Metatron, whose human origin as Enoch was similar to the human origin of Sandalphon.[]

Who was Enoch? At 365 years of age, it is recorded that God translated him into heaven without death. By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was attested as having pleased God." (Hebrews 11:5 RSV) What was the reason for this unusual act of God? Why did he take Elijah and Enoch up into the atmosphere? Was it to make them immortal? No! The Scripture says no word about that! In Hebrews 11:13,39, we read about the prophets who lived by faith and died without receiving the promises. So Elijah and Enoch were not to be made Immortal, for that would give him pre-eminence above Jesus.
Then why is it that Enoch is also equated as being the Archangel Metatron???  "Archangel Metatron, also referred to as the 'Chancellor of Heaven', and in some angelology circles is said to be more powerful than Gabriel or Michael. Metatron is assigned to the sustenance of mankind and holds the link between human and the divine." Taken from: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  Because of the position that Metatron holds at the top of the Tree of Life he is given many names: 'King of all the Angels', Prince of the Divine Face or Presence', 'Chancellor of Heaven', 'Angel of the Covenant', Chief of the Ministering Angels', 'Prince of Wisdom and Understanding', 'The Liberating Angel'. He is also said to be the 'Supreme Angel of Death': God daily gives orders as to the souls to be "taken" that day. Archangel Metatron passing this information on to Archangels Gabriel and Sammual. He is also said to be the teacher of prematurely dead children in Paradise and as such he is known as the patron angel of small children.

How is it that there could be any other archangels when Michael is the only one listed as an archangel in the bible and the word archangel is only used twice? (Thessalonians 4:16, Jude 9) If you did not read my last post I have found evidence the possibility existed that Michael was also Jesus.  The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7; Matthew 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.  Also Arch angel means "first messenger", that is Jesus the Word of God, his primary commander and spokes  "...and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in…." Malachi 3:1 b  In this prophecy Malachi speaks of the coming of the Messenger of the covenant. That Messenger is Christ. The first part of this verse is an obvious reference to another messenger, John the Baptist. We read, "Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me…." John the Baptist was the messenger of God who was sent by God to prepare the way for the coming of Christ. Christ quoted the first part of this verse in reference to His forerunner. We read in Matthew 11:10, "For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee." Since the first messenger mentioned in the verse prepared the way for the second, the Messenger of the covenant must be Christ. Christ is called something similar in Hebrews 12:24, "And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant…." The Mediator of the covenant and the Messenger of the covenant are the same.

AND EVEN more questioning is this: In Matthew and Mark we have these two passages "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Some of those who stood there, when they heard that, said, "This Man is calling for Elijah!" Immediately one of them ran and took a sponge, filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and offered it to Him to drink. The rest said, "Let Him alone; let us see if Elijah will come to save Him."" (Matthew 27:46-49).  "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Some of those who stood by, when they heard that, said, "Look, He is calling for Elijah!" Then someone ran and filled a sponge full of sour wine, put it on a reed, and offered it to Him to drink, saying, "Let Him alone; let us see if Elijah will come to take Him down."" (Mark 15:34-36)

In Luke 19-22  18 Once when Jesus was praying in private and his disciples were with him, he asked them, “Who do the crowds say I am?” 19 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, that one of the prophets of long ago has come back to life.” 20 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “God’s Messiah.”

So let's recap in our terms. Elijah, Enoch and Moses were three prophets that were taken by God when in human form. Yet Jesus said himself that only he was ascended into heaven.  Elijah and Enoch were considered twins, they both were taken by God, they were both considered later transfigured into Archangels and we know there was only one archangel Michael.  We know that the one Archangel was Jesus. So at the Mount of transfiguration when Jesus was there with Moses and Elijah is it fair to say that it was recognized that Jesus was indeed telling us he is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and he can be represented in human form in many ways? [ - Several commentators have noted that Jesus describes the transfiguration using the Greek word orama (Matthew 17:9), according to Thayer more often used for a supernatural "vision" than for real physical events,[16] and concluded that Moses and Elijah were not truly there]  If that is the case then it is fair to say that Jesus is telling us that he will come back at the start of the tribulation as the white horseman to warn us, at the beginning of the sixth seal as one of the witnesses to judge us, all before he makes his Second Coming. It does say that he will have the name that no one knows but himself.  Now back to point A.

If the bible was written with gospels explaining the life of Jesus, but also propheysing the future of what was to come would it makes sense for it to ALL happen again?  The life of Jesus was played out before our eyes to give us a chance at noticing that the Second Coming was about to be upon us because the times were literally resurrected?  Think about it. Michael, he was born a black man, with an astounding gift of bringing L.O.V.E. into the world, and put his messages of God into his song. He did as much as he could while on Earth.  He got a skin disorder that caused him to look white and the people immediately ridiculed him, accusing him of not wanting to be of his race, of bleaching his skin. They ridiculed him about his physical appearance continuously, and eventually found everything negative in his word when he only wanted to defend what was right. They stole from him, manipulated, cheated, betrayed and abused him in every way that a human could be. So many times you hear of him making a public apology about a song he wrote that he intended to be taken in a GOOD way from everyone, but not ONCE do you hear of anyone making a public apology to him!  It absolutely disgusts me the way he was treated and I can only hope that those people who did prejudged, still judge and mock and say bad things about him will repent and remember the words of JESUS in  Matthew 35-46

35 ‘For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38‘And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39‘When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40“The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’ 41“Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ 44“Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45“Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46“These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

I truly do believe that the Antichrist is living with us today. The first seal has been broken and Michael will come back to expose this Antichrist in due time.

References & Similarities / A Biblical Theory-More than a hoax
« on: December 31, 2010, 09:07:10 PM »
Archangel Michael is referred to as Christ Michael or Christ before he became man to Jehovah Witness, Seventh-Day Adventist and certain New Age Christian Denominations. He is an Archangel in Hebrew, Christian and Islamic tradition.  He is viewed as the field commander of the Army of God.  He is mentioned by name in the Book of Daniel, the Book of Jude and the Book of Revelation in which he leads God's armies against Satan's forces during his uprising. Michael, the One who is like God, is also described as the advocate of Israel and "great prince who stands up for the children of the people."

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 - For the Lord himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

John 5:25-27 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27. And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of Man.

If we compare these two verses 1 Thessalonians, its the archangel's voice, but in John 5 it is the voice of the Son of God.  Also, in both we see that the voice causes the resurrection of life. "The dead in Christ will rise when they hear His voice." Now I'm not asking anyone to believe this but if this is a possibility that Jesus is Michael and Michael is Jesus it allows us an opportunity to look further.

All the gospels report that Jesus had become known as a religious teacher by the time he had reached his 30's. Luke says Jesus was "about thirty years of age" when he was baptized.[Luke 3:23]  All three synoptic Gospels describe the Baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist, an event which Biblical scholars describe as the beginning of Jesus' public ministry. According to these accounts, Jesus came to the Jordan River where John the Baptist had been preaching and baptizing people in the crowd. After Jesus was baptized and rose from the water, Mark states Jesus "saw the heavens being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven, 'You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.

While in the Garden, Jesus is arrested by temple guards on the orders of the Sanhedrin and the high priest, Caiaphas. The arrest takes place clandestinely at night to avoid a riot, as Jesus is popular with the people at large.  Judas Iscariot, one of his apostles, betrays Jesus by identifying him to the guards with a kiss. Simon Peter, another one of Jesus' apostles, uses a sword to attack one of Jesus' captors, cutting off his ear, which, according to Luke, Jesus immediately heals miraculously. Jesus rebukes the apostle, stating "all they that take the sword shall perish by the sword".

In Mark, Jesus is stripped, flogged, mocked, and crowned with thorns. He is crucified between two thieves, and his cross states that he is being executed for aspiring to be the king of the Jews. He begins to recite Psalm 22, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me."  He utters a loud cry and dies.  Apparently to make doubly sure of death, the legionnaire drove his lance through the fifth interspace between the ribs, upward through the pericardium and into the heart.  The 34th verse of the 19th chapter of the Gospel according to John: And immediately there came out blood and water. Thus there was an escape of watery fluid from the sac surrounding the heart and blood from the interior of the heart.  We, therefore, have
rather conclusive post-mortem evidence that Our Lord died, not the usual crucifixion death by suffocatin, but of heart failure due to shock and constriction of the heart by fluid in the pericardium and a spear to the side.

Writing in the late second century, the early church Father Irenaeus records in his August Heresies that he believed Jesus lived to be approximately 50 years of age.  According to Irenaeus, the author of the Gospel of John implies that Jesus was close to the age of 50 when the Jews ridiculed him as being too young to have achieved sufficient learning of the Jewish law.  John 8:57 - The Jews then said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and you have seen Abraham?"  
Jesus is discussing the destruction of the temple and he says: “Destroy this temple, and in 3 days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, ‘This temple has been under construction for 46 years, and you will raise it up in 3 days?’ But he was speaking of the temple of his body (John 2:20-21).” John points out that later, when he is crucified, Jesus’ disciples remembered his prophecy of the 3 days; however, no one seems to recall the 46 years. Taken at his word, Jesus is clearly saying that he is 46 years old.

The Tribulation is the name given to the event or events referred to in Matthew 24:21 ("For then shall be great tribulation..." - King James Version) and other passages of the New Testament in the Holy Bible. In the Christian futurist view of Christian eschatology, the Tribulation is a relatively short period of time (7 years) where anyone who chose not to follow God before the Rapture and was left behind will experience worldwide hardships, disasters, famine, war, pain and suffering, which will wipe out 75% of all life on the earth before part two of the Second Coming takes place. During the first half of the tribulation,  among other events, we will witness, the rise of the Antichrist and the two witnesses.

The book of Revelation tells us that sometime during the Tribulation, two witnesses walking with the full power of God will come forth prophesying on His behalf to the whole world. They are sent to earth to witness first hand the extent of mankind's sin, to expose the Antichrist's world wide deception as he poses as Jesus Christ, to warn the human race of the coming Judgement and to rescue believers.  The just and righteous judge could hardly permit the destruction of a third of the human race without giving His highest ranking angels a chance to see for themselves the full extent of man's unbelief and sin.  It will be allowed for the Antichrist to overcome them and kill them and the whole world will be able to view their death.

God warns of a world leader who will soon rise and grow in power. This world leader has been given around 33 names but one of them the Antichrist. This coming world leader will begin exerting control over ten nations which were once part of the Roman Empire (most likely European) We are told he "shall be different" and we don't know what nationality this man will be, or what might make him different. In one verse he is described as 'the Assyrian' an area around Syria and Iraq. Although he will be against faithful Christians and will mock God's word, the world will view him as a great leader and a man of peace.

With all of this information being brought forward I would like to show you some comparisons on what I think is the beginning of the end. Now I know some will be hurt, offended and down right mortified by this and for that I do apologize, but I have been researching this for a very long time and this is only the tip of what I have discovered.  I can not hold it in any longer!

Michael Jackson was 32 (in his thirties)  when his song "Heal the World" came out.  His song "Will You Be There"  was also released where he states in the beginning of the song "Hold me, like the River Jordan" around the same age that Jesus was baptized in the Jordan river.  We all know his songs meant so much and he had so much passion in trying to make the world a better place. So I will quote some of his songs and some of his poetry from "Dancing the Dream"
 This is from "Are you listening?" 'Immortality's my game from bliss I came, in bliss I am sustained to bliss I return. If you don't know it now, it's a shame. Are you listening? "Ecstasy" ' I was born to never die. To live in bliss, to never cry. To speak the truth and never lie. To share my love without a sigh. "Heaven is Here" 'You and I were never separate. It's just an illusion wrought by the magical lens of perception. There is only one wholeness, only one mind.' " God" ' The sweetest contact with God has no form. I close my eyes, look within, and enter a deep soft silence. The infinity of God's creation embraces me. We are one.' "Magical Child Part 1" ' He knew his power was the power of God. He was so sure they considered him odd....Don't stop this child, he's the father of man, don't cross his way, he's part of the plan.' "Once We Were There" 'Where time is not, immortality's clear where love abounds, there is no fear. Unfold his heart with nothing to spare. Join him now if you dare.'  "You Are Not Alone" ' I can hear your prayers, your burdens I will bear.' "Cry" ' And when all calls I will answer all your prayers.' " They Don't Really Care About Us" 'I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy...Set me free.' " This Is It" 'This is it, Here I stand I'm the light of the world I feel grand.  God this love I can feel and I know, yes for sure It is real.' There is much much much more, but I will stop there.

Michael Jackson is arrested by the L.A. police department. The arrest takes place clandestinely at the Neverland Ranch to avoid a riot as Michael is popular with the people at large.  Michael is stripped of his clothing, while arms stretched out and given a 4 hour examination to prove his innocence. Afterward he is flogged and mocked by the people who gave him the crown of "King of Pop".  Our King did not die from a self inflicted suffocation of drug overdose, but of cardiac arrest due to constriction of the heart by drugs administered to him by a needle.  He died at the age of 50.  Farrah Fawcett, "Charlies Angel" also died that day. And the entire world was able to see it.  It has only been within, infact, the last 50 years that our technology has advanced enough that everyone in the world can view one thing at the same time.  

Is it not impossible to say that God sent Michael, the leader of his army, as one of the witnesses?  Is it not impossible to suggest that the Lord will once again send his only Son to witness first hand the judgment and try to heal the world that we the people have created? John 3:16-  For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.  Could it be that Michael was sent to the earth to once again go through the pain he once endured to SAVE US, Heal The World,  before the rapture??   The last avenue that God will use during this time to try and get as many people saved as He possibly can will be a major outpouring of the Holy Spirit Himself. Everyone will start seeing visions. How many of you have had dreams about Michael Jackson?

The coming Apocalypse will last exactly 7 years which includes exactly 3 1/2 years of false peace in Israel starting the day a coming "peace plan" will be enforced upon nation Israel by the coming Antichrist. Then exactly 3 1/2 years of unspeakable global terror and destruction starting the coming Antichrist will stand in a new Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and demand to be worshiped as "God." The Apocalypse or "The Great Tribulation" will be the irreversible result of a "Peace Plan" which will one day be enforced upon the nation and people of Israel by a very popular coming world leader.  The weak military posture of the Obama administration has encouraged Iran to continue it's nuclear weapon program. Few think that the US and the rest of the world will take military action and change Iran's behavior.  The brutal Iran regime will kill and torture its own people to stay in power. Whether Israel has been right or wrong in the past, it now faces decisions of self preservation. The hatreds in the region have festered for half a century or more. Even before the 2008 election, Israelis suspected that Barack Obama was not their friend, pointing to the advisers that he had chosen as indicative of his pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel bias. This is quoted from the  "Before he was elected to the White House, Barack Obama drew 200,000 ecstatic fans during a 2008 visit to Berlin. Analysts predicted he would have easily been elected France's president if he had been a candidate there. And the day after Obama's election triumph, practically every U.K. newspaper splashed his picture across their front pages. Europe had fallen in love."

Could it be that Michael, being the leader of God's army, the son of Man, has not hoaxed his death, but died to give the Antichrist a false pretense that he has won and then will come back and expose this before the end?
Could it be that Michael propheysed when he wrote the 1998 signature. Seeing that 1998 means 'the one who has the blood of Christ' will take down the mark of the beast?  Or was it the three circles saying the one who has the blood of Christ is asking you to look up to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?  Is it just coincidence that Michael's parents are Joseph and Katherine Esther when Jesus' father was Joseph and though Mary was the surrogate mother, it was Queen Esther who saved the Jews and that is the reason there could even be a King of Jews?  Is it mere coincidence that Michael Jackson is found in the bible code predicting the things he went through but ALSO in the verse of Matthew 2 describing the birth of Jesus Christ??

Is it all coincidence that the Archangel Michael and Jesus may be the same person, sent for the same reason and now sent again with the most popular human being on the plant also leading a similar life to Lord Jesus named Michael? One who gave his entire life and earnings into the children of the people and trying to save the world?  That he did so many things to do right, yet so many judged him. Can we sit and ignore the fact that there are so many religious symbolism and connections that it can't be possible?

What happened to Jesus in the years that nobody spoke of? Could he have escaped back to Egypt during the times the Egyptians discovered Christianity?  They made statues out of their Gods and broke off their noses to depict them as human. Could there be a link to the statue that looks like Michael Jackson and the reason behind his nose?  What about the 7 year Covenant and the Four horseman? Those too have a connection with Michael Jackson.  Until then I leave with this passage:

James 1:22-25 22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. 23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror 24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. 25 But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it—not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it—they will be blessed in what they do.

The Numbers Theory / A truth in numbers
« on: December 30, 2010, 10:50:59 AM »
The only truth we know for sure right now are the dates given to us. Not what happened on those dates, but the numbers. I find this very important. We were told that on June 25, 2009 MJ "died".  We also know he makes a reference to the end of the world "We only have four years left" referring to the "end".  So something must be in the planning between those two dates.  Using numerology I started off by writing the two crucial dates and went from there. I'm only going to use the formula in the first set of dates to reserve space so I hope it does not get confusing.
This is how I put it on paper:
6-25-09        6+[2+5]+[0+9] =    6-7-9
12-21-12    [1+2]+[2+1]+[1+2] = 3-3-3
After adding these I looked for the "clues". It is now set to a multiplication formula of  3 sixes, 3 sevens and 3 nines.  (Which concurs with the numerology in TS's post. You have 666, 777, 999)
So my next formula would be 6x3=18, 7x3=21, 9x3=27.
Now I have 18-21-27 so I'm adding the individual numbers once again- [1+8]=9, [2+1]=3, [2+7]=9.  I'm going to use these new numbers again with the outcome of 12-21-2012 which was 3-3-3.
(If you will also take notice that this is also the date 9-3-09 the date of his burial)
9-3-9  Multiply again: 3 nines= 27, 3 threes= 9 and 3 nines= 27
Add them up again: [2+7]=9, [9+0]= 9, [2+7]= 9
(Now we get the numbers 9-9-9. Also the date of his "resurrection".)
I tried to keep going but I kept coming back in full circle stuck on the number 27. So I tried a different method.I multiplied 666x333= 221778.  Add those up 2+2+1+7+7+8= 27. , 777x333= 258741, 2+5+8+7+4+1= 27. AND last but not least 999x333= 332667 and 3+3+2+6+6+7= 27.
At this time I thought it was time to find the symbolism in the number 27. (Also mentioned by TS on MJ's signatures he signed with 1998, 1+9+9+8=27 or the 2 nines in the center and 1+8= 999)
The number twenty seven being the cube of three.
Three, therefore, stands for that which is solid, real, substantial, complete, and entire.
All things that are specially complete are stamped with this number three.
God's attributes are three: omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence.
There are three great divisions completing time--past, present, and future. (HIStory....)
Three is the number associated with the Godhead, for there are "three persons in one God." Three times the Seraphim cry, "Holy, Holy, Holy"--one for each of the three persons in the Trinity (Isaiah 6:3). The living creatures also in Revelation 4:8.

Three times is the blessing given in Numbers 6:23, 24:--
"The LORD bless thee and keep thee (the Father);
The LORD make His face shine upon thee; and be gracious unto thee (the Son);
The LORD lift up His countenance upon thee, and give thee peace" (the Holy Spirit).
(This may have something to do with the arrow and three circles but I won't get into that now)

English Gematria:
The one whom has the Blood of Christ=1998
He whom has Eternal Life=1998 (reverse)
He who lives the Words of Jesus=1998
Lord Jesus will crack the Matrix=1998
The Key of David: Revelations 3
The one key that opens the heavens = 1998
The key that opens all doors = 1998

 I don't want to get too far ahead of myself here so for now I'm going to leave it just at the numbers. Since I got stuck on the date of 9-9-9 I figured the date I am looking for must be 27 months after this date. Which is 12-9-11. If I do my mathematical equation I got 3-9-2 with the end date numbers 3-3-3. After multiplying the sum you get 9-9-6 and that with 3-3-3 it comes out to yet again 9-9-9. I still didn't feel right about that conclusion because that's not when we were lead to believe he "died". So I added 27 months to 6-25-09. Here we get 9-25-11. If you do all the math it too ends in 9-9-9. So I wrote my final conclusion.

Predicted return date is 9-25-2011. Which I also found out is 7 days before the first IMMORTAL tour show by Cirque de Soleil on 10-2-2011. When I looked at the dates I thought I've already gone this far I might as well see what this comes out to. 9+2+5+2+0+1+1= 20 and 1+0+2+2+0+1+1=7. So these dates combined come out to 27.

Introduce yourself / I beLIEve....
« on: December 30, 2010, 08:18:18 AM »
I am not new to this investigation I am just newly registered.  :D I have spent countless hours, as have many of you, trying to dig, research, dissect and decipher all of these "coincedences".  I have read nearly all the posts and have come up with a lot of the same outcomes. One thing that I did not see until yesterday was the numerology from TS.  I am so thankful someone else has spoken about this.  I have also found something very interesting in numbers.  I have always been nearly obsessed with finding symbolism in everything and if the numbers add can not be ignored.

I am going to get all of my notes together and explain the best I can on what I think is in plan based on the numbers and the signs/symbolism from the numbers. I was so shocked to see what I had FINALLY found and I hope some of you will be excited as well.

Thank you to all for making me feel like I belong just by your inspirational words on Michael Jackson. He will always and forever bring people together for the good, the great and the better.

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