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« on: April 21, 2011, 11:57:12 AM »
RK--"Please bare with my shortcomings as an investigator. I know I am not good with logic as gut reactions and intuition are what speak loudest to me."
Don't doubt yorself. Do you remember when you would take a test in school or whatever. You get a question that is difficult. You pick an answer with your gut then debate why others are wrong. When you can't find a reason to overrule your gut you keep your first choice. You never change your answers! It is usually right.
As applied to this, I think whomever expects that we would go with our gut and not challenge ourselves to look elsewhere. We are a lazy species and always perfer things "handed" to us rather than work for it. Your "gut" maybe right, but there is a reason it is. That is what we must find.
Pep talk over.....
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« on: April 21, 2011, 10:44:01 AM »
RK agree, til last couple weeks most folks thought MJ masterminded this all. I however, never became a "poster" til recent but have always thought this was way above him. The tapes in the house will never be seen i believe but as we will discuss later wouldn't show us anything anyway. Soon, we will discuss as to "when" this really happened and i feel we will see it wasn't the 25th and that most likely none of the CPR/ambo scenario happened either. Even if the "slow ride" and "stretcher at UCLA" did happen on the 25th, I really don't think anything happened in the house and it was mere "prep time" before the show started. Anyway, we'll get to it.
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« on: April 21, 2011, 08:56:52 AM »
this is kinda fun...starting from the beginning and hearing/seeing things you knew but have become hazy again...like jermaine annoucing MJ death....such an act....the sighs , deep breaths all for show, no real emotion...off-topic i know but this fun..... 
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« on: April 20, 2011, 04:26:10 PM »
ok, I am now 80/20 PD in.....anyone else we are missing before we close this out?
WE have made overwelming arguments for each group being involved, and very few solid points that they aren't....
IMO we have answered out the first question.
I think next should be ...that day umm the other day............did june 25th happen that day or perhaps prior?(this will be fun one)
Of course, when souza says "we graduate".....LOLOL
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« on: April 20, 2011, 01:21:51 PM »
Well, I am torn 50/50 on PD.
I can see why they'd be IOI and why NIOI.
Maybe their role is revealed later as we break this down.
I call it a push right now.
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« on: April 20, 2011, 12:30:26 PM »
I still lean to PD IOI...
Once everyone knew it was MJ at hospital and he 'died', With everything about MJ being well overblown, etc, would you not send someone over directly after the 'death' knowing of crowd control and/or the possibilites of foul play just because it's MJ. Seems they took their time.(I do not know if they sent PD for crowd control later on 25th for sure)
But again, even if not involved, and evidence was gathered, the coroner already IOI so he could confirm/deny whatever it was they found.
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« on: April 20, 2011, 12:18:22 PM »
Hard to fathom PD not being IOI...but makes sense they weren't needed too....very interesting. No seemingly real reason for them to be then.
First question---
Help needed- yes-check
Who---
FBI-yes-check
Fire-yes-check
UCLA-yes-check
Coroner-yes-check
Police-hmmmm
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« on: April 20, 2011, 11:52:30 AM »
Time of death can only be called by a doctor/RN.. THis case a docotor was there and he did not call death, so it was not a crime scene til after UCLA.
When we code someone at work, we go until told to stop even tho we know they ain't coming back. I have coded people for over an hour and they dead from get go but time of death was not until we stop.
So CPR never "stopped" on MJ so therefore not dead. Not dead til UCLA.
Of course assuming this all happened on 25th. Which will be debated later I'm sure.
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« on: April 20, 2011, 11:40:22 AM »
If it was a real 911 heart attack, police are not normally sent.
Since MJ's call it was not revealed it was MJ, the PD might not have been "aware" of who was at the house.
Having PD there as the Ambo did their thing could raise suspcision as to their being there.
So no PD just follows what every Joe Blow 911 call is like unless it is a crime scene and not a medical emergency.
If Ambo's arrive to a scene where an obvious crime was commited they notify PD , but in this case it did not appear this way.
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« on: April 20, 2011, 12:16:26 AM »
also, LAPD should of made the house a crime scene much sooner. The family tampered and removed evidence or even planted some. So I could see a "special" blind crime scene crew sent for show. Afterall this was a show. Chief resigns. Why? Perhaps he falls from the spotlight and it fades away. I think yes PD envolved.
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« on: April 20, 2011, 12:03:11 AM »
the question who....
FBI, CIA are the only 2 agencies with the ability to perform, decieve and construct the hoax the way it played out. FBI is more logical due to witness protection programs and their knowledge of how to "make one disappear". The FBI could recruit, "force"(lol) and leaglly have the various parties comply with little risk of discovery. To coordinate fire, police, coroner and have them provide personnel to achieve the hoax is easily within their capabilities. And could of done this in a much less complicated way with same results.
Ya bec, we gotta start at the beginning, even if it seems like a given. One question, one rip it apart, next...hehe...because later when other not so easy stuff comes up , the debate we have here plays a role to the answers to come later.
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« on: April 19, 2011, 11:54:28 PM »
oh good gosh I have a "few" more as to "no way in ...." he did this alone. This will probably least debated question. Tho bec, lol, your already on question 23...haha
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« on: April 19, 2011, 11:50:58 PM »
I think souza is right, the helicopter is irrelevant til you answer who/what was is in ambo.
Honestly, noone has "real" proof and we all here can justify our own reasoning to make it make sense. Tho, somewhat disappointed TS started us down this path again and is not available to "guide" us thru, we can all argue the merits to our points forever.
At some point logic must takeover and fantasy and delusional(only because we want it to be true) ideas as to the events must end and tho no concrete evidence is available, logical and critical thinking must be used in order to discover the events of the hoax.
Example of critical thinking scenarios-
-Could MJ pull this off alone?
-You know must consider the scope, scale and those involved.
-Tho we love MJ and he has done a great many things and has met, rubbed and associated with the most powerful people, we WANT to believe he could do this alone without assistance.
-Now considering what we think we know, Is this really possible? And why?
MJ had/has many influences, and could pay/persaude/reward many people to play along.
Logically without emotion the possibility is very slim. So you must weigh this versus....
-Now consider why this is not possible. And why.
-could not pay everyone
-or have the influence to do so
-amount of departments, people and resources needed
-coordination , timing and "making the signs match exactly"
-so on and so forth.
For example purposes only, this appears to be heavily favored in the fact he most probably could not do this alone. Ruling out what your heart feels and your mind wants, it is quite clear MJ needed help.
And the process continues, So if help was needed then(next question). You know have a reference and logical starting point in which to return to when other issues/questions arise.
In time, the answers will answer themselves with the questions you have already debated. And a more realistic conculsion can be made.
MY heart says I see MJ move in the copter. Tho lighting and angles says it could be just that. But in fact, that very question could be answered without all the "what if" providing critical thinking is applied from the beginning and logic is used to interpet what you find. Because if we discover the answer to the body , we discover the ambulance, we discover the pic, the phone call etc etc. Which answers if/what was in copter. But all these answers are answered if you start at the bginnning.
Not saying the way each of you research and/or deduct your ideas is wrong, just maybe giving a different thought process that can be used. Ideas pertaining to all the various issues can give multiple results and moreso if not done in a chronilogical order. By concluding the questions in the order in which the happen will rule out many of "far fetched" ideads we have. (and I have had many)
as requested....
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« on: April 19, 2011, 11:46:01 PM »
lol...too funny...one question at a time...pro and cons...conclusion...next question with revised "theory"....haha..in other thread. /wink
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« on: April 19, 2011, 11:39:06 PM »
OK cool.....
Lets start with----
Reasons why MJ could of done this all by himself.
-money
-connections
-ummm it's hard to come up with more...next.....
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