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Revisiting Old Stuff / FACTS that we have with the hoax
« on: January 02, 2015, 04:51:53 PM »
I started a list of facts that we have. Please continue with any others that you can think of - this may help to connect some things.

Let's not include inconsistencies or anything that would be taken as an opinion. Just things that can be confirmed.



Fact # 1: Michael was in talks with AEG 2 years prior to TII, so Michael doing business with them for TII was not a surprise or new.

Fact # 2: LAX was shut down for a brief time on June 25th, 2009. Weather was indicated as the reason.

Fact # 3: Two bodies were in the helicopter that left UCLA to go to the coroner’s office.

Fact # 4: Body being loaded at UCLA is not the body being removed at the coroner’s office.

Fact # 5: No flight plan was registered for the above flight. No video of the helicopter leaving the coroner’s office has been ‘leaked’ to show us where the other body went.

Fact # 6: Ben from National Photo Group told us that there were two different days involved; ‘that day and the other day’.

Fact # 7: The property detail on the ambulance being at UCLA indicates June 24th, not June 25th.

Fact # 8: The paramedics didn’t recognize Michael, but yet the ‘last photo’ of Michael Jackson clearly shows he is recognizable as Michael Jackson – 20 years younger.

Fact # 9: The police always said that Murray was not a suspect, but yet his home and offices were raided.

Fact # 10: It has been stated that Katherine never talked to Murray at UCLA but yet in the Oprah interview she said it was Dr. Conrad Murray who told her that Michael didn’t make it.

Fact # 11: Murray’s CA medical license on the paramedic report does not match to what we have been given to be his true CA medical license #.

Fact # 12: Lisa Marie stated that Michael knew he would end up just like her father did.

Fact # 13: John McClain made it a point to tell us that Michael had left a note saying that Hold My Hand should be the first single on his next project. Michael says I’m alive in Hold My Hand and Akon says ‘they got it MJ’.

Fact # 14: We have no idea who Conrad Robert Murray really is. A document from his trial indicates his middle initial is W, not R and Ed Chernoff called him Murphy.

Fact # 15: Mug shot of Murray that TMZ provided AFTER Murray was found guilty had already been presented in court at the BEGINNING of Murray's trial.


Love you Michael!


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The Funeral, The Body & Forest Lawn / Who is buried at Forest Lawn?
« on: December 28, 2014, 09:25:32 PM »
I think the majority of us will agree that Michael is not buried at Forest Lawn; mainly because his name is not on the crypt and that he is alive.

If we are correct and he is not there, then who is there if anyone?

To start with I thought it odd how sunflowers played a part in TII (pictured during scene of dancers being made up for Thriller and one of the dancers having a sunflower for a hat during Thriller) and Lisa proclaiming that sunflowers were Michael’s favorite flower and she had some delivered to Forest Lawn with a request for more to come from the fans.

So I started researching. With the information that I found in the document for Murray’s arraignment from Feb. 2010, a ‘connecting report’ number in one of the Carolwood search warrants, a reply from the coroner’s office on that connecting report number, information that other burial plots had been purchased besides Michael’s crypt and other information that I had gathered I came to the conclusion that children were buried there.

Yes, children.

Does everyone remember the interview that Jermaine gave and there was a voice in the background that said “It’s for the children”? If you recall Jermaine just sat there and didn’t know what to say. At the time I had no idea why this voice said what it did or the significance of it, but as time went on and I discovered the above information I thought maybe Michael was telling us who is at Forest Lawn.

Here are the items that I found that point to my belief that children are the ones who are buried at Forest Lawn. At the moment I can't put any copies of photos here, so I will put the document and let you know the page you can find the info on.

Document from arraignment, Feb. 2010 (page 2 paragraph 3):

[pdf]http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_murray_02_wm.pdf[/pdf]

NOTICE: A Suspected Child Abuse Repot (SCAR) may have been generated within the meaning of Penal C ode 11166 and 11168 involving he charges alleged in the complaint. Dissemination of a SCAR is limited by Penal Code 11167 and 11167.5 and a court order is required for full disclosure of the contents of a SCAR.

The connecting report in the Carolwood warrant (page 3, to the right about 1/2 way down). Looks like an autopsy number, doesn’t it?

cc# 2008-04416

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Since this looked so much like Michael’s autopsy number (cc#2009-04415) I thought I would contact the coroner’s office, not expecting to receive any type of info. After all, this would be confidential information.

Question to coroner’s office and reply from the coroner’s office on that connecting number:

Q: Hi, I have an autopsy case # of CC#2008-04416 which I am hoping that you can give some information on. I came upon this number while reading the warrant to search Michael Jacksons home in June of 2009; it said this number was related to the case. Can you supply the name of the deceased and the date of death that relates to record 2008-04416? Thanks!

A: Case 2008-04416 name is Venegas, Jacob date of death 06-20-08 age 1 mo 3 dy.

I searched for Maria Campos (the person who replied to me) and found that she is an advocate for children and during that search I also discovered that in 2008 (the same year of the babies death) there were 14 cases of abuse/neglect of children that involved DCS (which reminded me of DCS being involved with the stun gun incident with Blanket).

Ok so far we have a possible SCAR report (child abuse) included with Murray’s arraignment document, what looks like an autopsy case number in a Carolwood search warrant, a reply from the coroner’s office on that case number which sadly is a death of a baby and information found that in 2008 DCS was involved in 14 deaths of abuse/neglect/death of children.

And interestingly enough sunflowers are associated with children; hence Lisa’s request for sunflowers to be delivered to Forest Lawn. And the voice telling us “It’s for the children”.


Here is the video stating 12 crypts were purchased besides Michael (I'll post the link, not sure if the actual video will post):

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:45 mark - 12 crypts were purchased

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5T_yktVM30&feature=related[/youtube]

In my search (on Forest Lawn website) I found that Michael’s crypt contains 8 underground chambers so with that number and the 12 crypts purchased we are talking 20 individual resting places.

Do you actually think these are for the Jackson family? I doubt it. Why so many and who are these for?

Why would a baby's death be linked to Michael's investigation?

Why would the coroner's office give me that type of information, especially when I had said I found it in the Carolwood search warrant?

And above all, I can see Michael doing this. Holly Terrace is a beautiful place.

EDIT:

Sorry I forgot to include the Funeral bill showing the extra crypts that were bought - page 15 and to the right:

[pdf]http://images.eonline.com/static/news/pdf/jacksonfuneral.pdf[/pdf]

Location Crypt "A"
Sarcoph # 9 (Crypts B, C & D) are available
and Wall Crypts - 10307, 10308, 10309, 10310, 10311, 10312, 10314, 10315

Notice there is no 10313 indicated, I wonder why.

Love you Michael!

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I was reading through old posts yesterday and didn't see any mention of this, so thought I would add it.

In the paramedic report Murray's CA license is listed as being G01168, but we know that isn't true. So what does G01168 mean?

After the pic of Michael on the stretcher was revealed I kept digging for information and ended up finding a recall notice on a Stryker bed for a serial number matching Murray's CA license.

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Class 2 Device Recall Stryker GoBed

Date Posted June 22, 2012
 
Recall Number Z-1859-2012

Product GoBed+ . Model FL20E Beds are intended for medical purposes in both general patient care as well as critical care environments. Each uses built-in electric motors and controls which can be operated by the patient, or caregiver, to adjust the height and/or surface contour of the bed. The devices listed above also include movable and latchable side rails which can be lowered or raised to help prevent patient fall and subsequent injury. The Beds include an optional Scale (Models: FL20E, FL25E, FL28C, FL28EX) as well as an optional Bed Exit (1 Zone) or Chaperone

Code Information Model FL20E: Serial, Number, Listing, for, Model,FL20E  G01168

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Manufacturer: Stryker Medical

Recall Posting Date: 2012-06-25

Trade Name:
 
A) Go Bed Plus FL25E
 B) Go Bed II
 C) Go Bed Plus FL20E

Recall Start Date: 2012-05-31

Recall Number: 74938

Hazard Classification: Type II

Model or Catalog #

A) FL25E
 B) FL14E3, FL28C, FL28EEX
 C) FL20E
Lot or Serial #
A) FL25E
 B) FL14E3, FL28C, FL28EEX
 C) FL20E

Reason for Recall: Stryker Medical has received complaints regarding scales and/or bed exit systems on Gobed, and Gobed+. The units cited were manufactured between March 1, 2002 and June 30, 2008. Their investigation identified that the reported issues could be attributed to load cell malfunctions.

I know this sounds crazy but maybe we were just given an 'adventure' with this pic and it really had no meaning behind it other than the matching of the serial number and CA license.

I would really like some feedback on this and see what everyone's thoughts are.



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Other Odd Things / Illuminus Theo
« on: December 27, 2014, 05:47:13 PM »
I'm sure this has been talked about on here, does anyone remember what the thoughts were on this?

I have highlighted areas that have been part of this hoax, that happened after the posting of this article. Even the part about Hitler.

Could Michael be illuminus theo?

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Thursday, July 2, 2009

Michael Jackson is not Dead; so WHO died?
Contents copyright June 2009, WNB, at Illuminus Theo

Why and how Dimitrie Draghicescu died in Jackson's place.

[Note: Dimitrie was unrelated to the famous Romanian writer and diplomat who died in 1945; both Dimitrie and Draghicescu are relatively common names in Romania]

Contact: Illuminus.theo@gmail.com

The Truth Behind Michael Jackson Death Hoax


The outpouring of grief over Michael Jackson's death, and the sheer magnitude of the deception that Illuminus Theo (IT) has allowed itself to be a party to, now force me to reveal what many have suspected (and with good reason). Michael Jackson did not die--but someone else did. Who died in Jackson's place, and why did Michael Jackson stage his own death in one of the greatest ruses in history? For that matter, why did my own highly reclusive order help Jackson pull this off? I must share this, and quickly, and hope that this blog is not removed before enough people have learned the truth, because what Michael Jackson has just pulled off is nothing compared to the plans that he has for us during the coming century.

Why Did Illuminus Theo Agree to be a part of the Michael Jackson Death Conspiracy?

Quite simply, who could turn down Michael Jackson when he asked for help? Even his closest confidantes admitted that whatever Michael wanted, he got. But when he approached our Order four years ago in Naples, Italy, we were overwhelmed by the generosity of his promised reward (which we will yet receive; the reports of his so-called bankruptcy are as fraudulent as his staged death). These funds will enable our order to further the research which we have pursued for almost 700 years--unheralded, unrestricted by the Vatican (they did not even know of us until the 1940s), and unfunded, as we had our own financial resources--at least until the financial fiascoes of 2000. But what does it profit a man if he gain the world and lose his soul? Even Michael's millions would not have been enough if he had not approached us with a golden carrot in one hand and an iron stick in the other.

Michael's Gold Carrot and Iron Stick

Michael warned Illuminus Theo quite plainly that, given the very nature of his proposal, he could not allow us to refuse his generous offer; he threatened to expose to the world the lapses and indiscretions that had brought us to the attention of the Vatican during the 1940s, and thereby destroy the secrecy that we have so carefully guarded for over 700 years.

My superiors will be livid that I have exposed this dark deception. Illuminus Theo will no doubt engineer the erasure of this blog as soon as they discover it, and Jackson may exact his own revenge upon the Order and myself. Yet if he does, I will reveal exactly where Michael Jackson is today--provided I am not first silenced by either Jackson or my own Order. Over the centuries, Illuminus Theo has silenced those it could not buy. I'm not sure about Jackson, but given the desperation that drove him to this great deception, I would not be surprised if Jackson has also sent some detractors on a one way trip to Neverland.

Why Michael Jackson's Staged Death?

Michael had multiple motives for his staged demise, but ironically, it all began over two decades ago with Michael's morbid fear of death itself. His former wife Lisa Presley has recently revealed that even though Michael daily underwent a rigorous regimen to achieve his dream of living to at least 150, he frequently voiced his fears that he would die early, like Lisa's legendary father Elvis Presley. Michael's most bizarre longevity rite was, of course, his sleeping in hyperbaric chambers. These photos were carefully 'leaked' [with instructions to label them as 'bizarre') to heighten the public's fascination with his unusual lifestyle, but this was more than just promotional hype. Jackson laughed it off but it was a true reflection of Michael's deep seated fear of death.

Why Michael's Morbid Fear of Death?

Michael feared death because, quite simply, he had never really lived. As a child he was reportedly abused by a domineering father who drove him to success, denying him a childhood, hence the attempt to recapture his lost youth with Neverland ranch. Jackson's father not only denied Michael his childhood but also, in driving him to success, molded Michael into a compulsive success addict who could never really slow down to enjoy the massive wealth he accumulated. Michael existed, but he never lived. He viewed life from the outside, from the above--as we view the insignificant lives of millions when our plane rises out of Los Angeles airport, cars below buzzing about like bees in futile search for significance or, increasingly, for survival. And it was this godlike perception of the world, and his intoxication with unparalleled success, that gave birth to Michael's belief in his own deity and inevitable immortality--which he sought not just in science but in the occult.

Michael and the Occult

The public had no idea that Thriller, which was released on Nov. 30, 1982, was not just fiction but autobiographical. Jackson was, in a sense, taunting death. But as he worked on Thriller he became even more enthralled with the occult, and given his fear of death, it is not surprising that he sought the secrets of unending life by searching out the undead, the vampire--which led him to Illuminus Theo.

Jackson Discovers Illuminus Theo

If Jackson spent millions on spending sprees, he spent hundreds of millions seeking the holy grail of immortality through science and the occult. Even as Hitler's henchmen searched the planet from Tahoe to Tibet for occult power to insure the Third Reich's success, so Jackson's army of researchers circled the globe. But although Illuminus Theo managed to evade Hitler's henchmen, we could not hide from Michael Jackson, but that is not surprising. Jackson had better resources than the failing feuhrer.

When Jackson learned of Illuminus Theo's centuries of involvement in the occult, in particular our research into alleged (I emphasize "alleged") cases of possession and vampirism, he threatened our order until we allowed him access to archives that have been kept hidden for centuries. We denied, of course, that we had any of the materials that he sought, but he in turn insisted that if we had nothing to hide, we had nothing to fear from him and his assistants browsing our archives. And so Jackson spent weeks at a time in our archives while one of his three lookalike Michaels carried on his public appearances (one advantage of Michael's plastic face was that it was easy to create lookalikes; this helped inspire the staged death scheme--but I'm coming to that).

Wannabe Vampire Michael Jackson

Jackson did not undergo such extensive surgery because he was ashamed of being black but because he was trying to identify himself with the pallid legions of the undead that he believed must still exist on this planet. Jackson produced his hit video Thriller less as a commercial music video than as a secret yet in-your-face tribute and homage to the legions of undead. Michael hoped that by transforming himself into their physical image, he would somehow change his psychic image as well. Farfetched? Of course! But Michael was obsessed with the reality that he had been dying from birth. He often remarked upon rising, "I'm one day closer to the grave." What a way to look at life! But he hoped that through his physical make-over, and the release of Thriller, the undead would sense his desperation and contact him (even as thousands have written Anne Rice, of vampire novel fame, asking her how to meet vampires in New Orleans).

At this point, I dare not reveal the extent of Illuminus Theo's involvement in what transpired after the release of Thriller, and Michael's subsequent transformations, both physical and otherwise.

Plastic Michael Lookalikes

As I noted, it was easy to create Michael Jackson lookalikes because Jackson himself was a plastic creation, a construct, who in now way resembled the Michael of two decades earlier. After Jackson's court battles, he withdrew from the world, and retreated to a Neverland that he was creating in a foreign country--a subterranean wonderland free from the DNA-damaging solar rays that so terrified Jackson that he was never out of doors without an over-sized umbrella. But Jackson's ego would not allow him to depart the world as a failure, hence Illuminus Theo's collaboration in his staged death right on the heels of an equally staged comeback.

Jackson's Staged Comeback

Jackson, better than anyone, knew the rigors of dancing, and that his body could never handle a comeback such as he promised the world. But he craved not only immortality of body and soul but of name and fame, and of the love that he felt had eluded him his entire life, even in his so-called marriages (which he was quite serious about, but having never been loved, he found to his dismay that he could not love).
 
Michael set out to show the world that he was as youthful and capable as ever by promising a series of performances that even someone half his age would have found impossible to pull off. That he could even manage a practice session is testimony to his desperation, as well as his genius and determination. But he only planned to perform the practice sessions. He had no intention whatsoever of actually engaging in the performances because, once the world had seen what he was still capable of, he would "die," and then sit back and watch the world mourn him.

Let's set one record straight. Michael was a health fanatic, and did not abuse drugs--at least much. His pleas to doctors for sleeping remedies were ploys to set the stage for his death (which was fitting, as his entire life was a stage). Poor Deepak Chopra was aghast at what he saw as Michael's growing dependence upon prescription drugs, but Michael knew that, once he had "died," Deepak would remember his pleas for drugs, and share them out of sympathy for his extinguished friend--and thus reinforce the fiction that Jackson had died of drugs. To further reinforce this fiction, Jackson phoned other doctors, begging for drugs, and some doctors did provide them, but he never used them. He was too terrified of death to allow anything to weaken his body's tenuous hold upon life.


Jackson's "Death"

The night before Jackson's "death," he danced his heart out, almost literally (which underscored the impossibility of surviving the grueling schedule he'd announced to his public). He returned to his rented home, and was spirited away to a waiting jet at Burbank airport, which transported him to a location in the Southeastern U.S. that I dare not divulge (yet). But I must explain that the man who died of an alleged heart attack under the very hands of his personal physician (get real!) was not Jackson but a 47-year-old Romanian named Dimitrie Draghicescu, whom Illuminus Theo disgracefully dragged into this morbid affair.

Dimitrie Draghicescu--the Dead Jackson

After fully 3 years of plastic surgery and training, Dimitrie could easily pass for a live Jackson, not to mention a dead one. But unlike the mighty Michael, Dimitrie did die. Dimitrie, not Jackson, was the one whisked to the hospital. Did you not wonder why the man who phoned 911 did not say "Michael Jackson" was the victim? It was not to avoid publicity but to insure that, should the 911 calls be analyzed by voice experts and electronic analyzers, no one could detect the stress from the caller's blatant falsehood.

Dimitrie agreed to die in Michael's place only because he had a terminal illness, and because Jackson had promised a generous reward to his family. And had Dimitrie refused, our Order would have revealed the Draghicescu family secret that had brought them to the attention of Illuminus Theo in the late 1700s (we too are familiar with the gold carrot-iron stick argument).

Why the 2nd Autopsy?

If Jackson's own family could not distinguish a plastic Dimitrie from a plastic Jackson, the doctors who tried to revive "Jackson" certainly had no hopes of penetrating this stupendous ruse. The only difficulty was switching fingerprints, but this was accomplished more easily than you could imagine by a little greasing of palms both in the hospital and the police force. (Though now the police are under suspicion for delaying a search for 4 days, allowing an unsupervised Janet to remove items from a suspected crime scene, etc.).

But while the ruse fooled the world, his family was suspicious. They knew Michael too well to believe that a man so fanatic about health would kill himself with such a dangerous drug. The Jackson family demanded a second autopsy not to determine the cause of death but to determine the true identity of the body. (Which, of course, will never be revealed, for if Jackson is shown to be alive, they will not inherit his estate).

Death by Diprivan

The autopsy will indeed reveal that "Jackson" died of a lethal dose of Diprivan, a dangerous but effective anaesthetic. Jackson's personal doctor will be found guilty of negligence, but his career was on the ropes already. (He said Michael was so delicate he supported his back during CPR--yet Michael was capable of 50 performances?). This desperate excuse for a doctor readily agreed to become a part of Jackson's "death" in return for a 7-figure fee and the best lawyers in the land. You noticed, I assume, how quickly he was in contact with his lawyers? They had a response prepared even before Jackson's double, poor Dimitrie, had breathed his last.

Michael Jackson is alive, and given the information he forced out of Illuminus Theo, and the tremendous resources at his disposal (in spite of rumors of his supposed bankruptcy) he may well reach his goal of living to 150, but I don't think he will enjoy those extra 100 years. But in the meantime, Michael Jackson is enjoying immensely the spectacle of the entire world in tears. He has achieved the fame and even a measure of love and respect, that eluded him in life. His eccentricities are forgiven; those he alienated are reconciled. And perhaps this is not a bad thing. What I fear, personally, is where Michael Jackson is headed now. With the exception of his father, no one could ever say "No" to Michael--and that was to the old Jackson. How will the world handle the Michael Jackson that is to come? Of course, no one will recognize the new Jackson for who he is.

He Did Take It With Him

Sometime within the next two years, the plastic-faced Michael Jackson will emerge onto the world scene again with not only a new, unrecognizable face but a new name. And who says "you can't take it with you?" Michael has taken his, and will enjoy enormous wealth and power, coupled with blissful anonymity, for decades--perhaps even another century. But what on earth will Michael Jackson do the second time around?

I must cut this short. I am posting this via proxies, in the hopes that it will not be easily traced, and using an alias--the name of the Italian Chinese priest who transformed our order after the Vatican penetrated our veil of secrecy in the 1940s. If only Father Fu were still here to help us--though after what I've learned about Michael Jackson's "death," for all I know Father Lingyu Fu may still be around. I will not pursue that line of thought further, lest sleep elude me, as it did the King of Pop during his last decade.

I hopes this avoids deletion long enough for the world to know the truth--that Michael Jackson is alive! Or, more accurately, he is not dead.

Are you?

Father Lingyu Fu

Naples, Italy

[Note: Some have commented that Dimitrie died in 1945 [actually, he committed suicide]. Obviously, in Romania, as in the rest of the world, sometimes more than one people have the same name. The Dimitrie Draghicescu who was the famous writer killed himself in 1945. He was, as far as we know, unrelated to Michael Jackson's Dimitrie.

Illuminus Theo Postscript (July 20, 2009): The Abbot of Illuminus Theo Abbey insists on pointing out that Illuminus Theo did not pressure Dimitrie Draghicescu in any way into an arrangement with Michael Jackson. So I have duly noted this, but based on the information presented above, you can draw your own conclusion.

By the way, he is not, as many websites have claimed, in Hungary (but fairly close).

Posted by  Illuminus Theo     at  11:08 PM

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Illuminous
a. 1. Bright; clear.

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theo-
God: theomorphism.

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theomorphism
Depiction or conception of humans as having the form of a god.
the′o•mor′phic adj.   (bright God, clear God – having the form of a god)

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Theomorphism
Theomorphism, from Greek θεος, theos (God) and μορφη, morphē (shape or form), refers to the bestowal of divine attributes on humanity. The term literally means "God-shaped", corresponding to the Hebrew name Michael.


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UCLA / Who is the man in the white socks, white t-shirt and white robe?
« on: December 26, 2014, 04:45:23 PM »
Is it normal for just anyone to be around watching when a body has been removed from the hospital to be flown to the coroners office?

Wouldn't this be like a restricted area?

I can't find the video link where this is from, but it was from a French news program and at the very end when the helicopter is about to leave, people are walking back to the entrance and they stop and talk and the guy in the white robe is right there. It looks like Randy Phillips and Firpo Carr among the men and possibly paramedics.


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I'll try and find the video.

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Other Odd Things / neverland vs. Carolwood mailbox
« on: December 26, 2014, 04:16:43 PM »
I'm not sure how much of this has been talked about on here or if it has been talked about at all but I find this interesting and wondering about the ownership of Carolwood.

Here is a pic of the original mailbox from Neverland that went to auction back in 2009:

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Michael Jackson Exhibition
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Here is the original mailbox at Carolwood that a tour bus backed into and it was sold at auction in 2011:

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Now here is the mailbox that is currently at Carolwood (this replaced the mailbox that got hit in 2010):

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Now here is where it gets interesting. The mailbox from Neverland is the same mailbox that is currently at Carolwood!!!!!!!

I took the pic of the Carolwood mailbox when I was there in 2012. I have marked all of the areas that are the same. The only difference is that the original Neverland mailbox is framed in white.

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How could this be the same mailbox? Out of thousands of mailboxes to pick from, the owner of Carolwood just happens to replace a knocked down mailbox with one that looks just like the one from Neverland? The Neverland mailbox was auctioned in 2009 and the new look-a-alike mailbox was placed at Carolwood in 2010.

Coincidence, or is there more to this?


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General Hoax Talk / Could a woman be involved in Michael's disappearance?
« on: December 20, 2014, 03:48:29 PM »
I'm not sure if this has been discussed here or not, but I have always thought that there was a woman involved in Michael's disappearance.

This all started with a pic that Michael showed us, then TII and then Murray's trial.

Michael was shown coming out of Arnie's office with some girls pic in his hand (if anyone knows who this is, please tell us). I know she was a follower but I don't know her name.

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In TII there is the following:

1. Black Widow spider is shown during Thriller (hour glass shape on body - the shape of a woman is an hour glass) but the mark on the mechanical spider looks like a dress form.
 
2. During Human Nature (at the beginning when he and Travis are goofing around) Michael says 'keeping her around, her around, keeping her around, her around' and then at the end of the song Michael says Why does SHE do me this way (this was repeated during the closing credits). She is not part of Human Nature, it is HE.

3. During Billie Jean he makes moves to indicate that he is in full makeup from the top of his head to the tip of his toes.

Mechanical spider from TII:

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Dress form:

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During Murray's trial we were shown a dress form:

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Grace has been and I guess still is # 1 on my list, mainly because she was always around Michael but yet she was never called to testify.


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Posted: December 18, 2014

Michael Jackson’s Estate Signs With BMI Publishing Once Again

Michael Jackson’s estate has decided to renew Jackson’s contract with BMI. This is a long-standing partnership that the singer has had in place for 38 years. BMI holds and represents Jackson’s entire catalog, which includes all of the public performances that Michael did when he was living.

According to Billboard, the president of BMI, Mike O’Neill, released a statement about the estate choosing to renew their relationship with BMI.
“We are pleased to announce our continued representation of Michael’s extraordinary and vast catalogue. Since 1976, we’ve had the privilege of licensing his works and we’re honored to continue this relationship with his estate.”

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This year BMI helped release Jackson’s second posthumous album, Xscape, which featured a duet by Justin Timberlake on the track “Love Never Felt So Good.” The majority of the unreleased material for album was produced and reworked by Timbaland, Rodney Jerkins, J-Roc, and LA Reid.
In the U.K., Xscape went on to be Jackson’s tenth number one album. In the United States the album debuted at number two on the Billboard charts, selling 157,000 copies in the first week. Total sales worldwide include 1,410,000 copies.

At the time of the promotion for Michael Jackson’s album, LA Reid described just how meticulous Jackson was in recording his albums, which is what lead the team to find a large amount of unused songs in the vault. Reid told Billboard about “Slave to the Rhythm,” which came out of a recording session for the 1996 album Dangerous.

“He sang the song from top to bottom 24 times without a bathroom break, without a water break, without a ‘Give me a moment.’ He would sing the song and say, ‘OK, give me another track, I can do it better,’ and he’d do it again. ‘I can nail this. Give me another track,’ and he’d do it again. Each time he’s getting better and better, but by the time you got to track 13, 14 we got lost, because it all started to sound the same. At that point he’d perfected it, but he just kept going.”

Some of Michael’s biggest hits include “Rock With You,” “Thriller,” “Beat It,” “Bad,” “Black or White,” and “Smooth Criminal.”


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TMZ Articles / Conrad Murray CRIME AND BUNISHMENT
« on: December 19, 2014, 02:07:52 PM »
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Conrad Murray

Crime and Bunishment

12/19/2014 7:50 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF


Conrad Murray's locked up and loving it -- he's grown his hair out so long that he's gone next level ... the man bun.

Michael Jackson's doc enjoyed a lunch date Thursday in Miami with his gf Nicole Alvarez.

It might beat a ponytail -- but still ... you'd have to be heavily sedated to rock that 'do in public.


Murray sure does get around doesn't he? And he spends a lot of time in Florida too.

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Hi everyone!

I'm not sure how many of you are involved over on Michael's official fan site but the Estate and Sony have changed the entire website. For those of you who do not know this, the Estate runs the site - I know this because I received confirmation through the online team.

There used to be forums where issues could be discussed (minus any hoax talk - that was band by the Estate) but now according to a press release the forums will no longer be.

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New MichaelJackson.com Coming Soon
December 08, 2014

Hi there!

We are happy to share with you that there are upgrades to the MichaelJackson.com site coming soon that we think will make for an even better and smoother experience. The Estate and Sony Music have taken fan feedback into consideration and are excited to announce the following changes will occur in the next few weeks:

A faster-loading site across all devices

 The developers have been working to ensure that the site remains robust while also allowing for the best experience for all visitors, regardless of whether they are using a computer or mobile device.

New, sleeker design

 The new site will feature brighter accent and background colors to improve the graphic display as well as to make the text easier to read.
Facebook comments integration

 Fans have previously been able to log into the website using their Facebook account, but now that functionality will be expanded to make integration throughout the site more seamless and allow easier participation in fan-to-fan communication, comments, and discussion threads.

 It will also integrate discussions with the rest of the content on the site more organically, rather than pushing them off to a separate forum section. As a result, the separate forum section will be eliminated from the website, so it is important that if you communicate with anyone solely through the website forums, you should reach out and exchange other contact information with them in order to stay in touch.

Fan art that has been previously submitted will still be available in the fan galleries, and users will no longer have to create an account to participate in discussions or submit original fan art.

The new site will be a significant improvement to the user experience on MichaelJackson.com, and we look forward to seeing you on the site!


I can only speculate on why the forums will no longer be there but I assume it is because of all the bickering and drama that went back and forth between certain people.

Anyway, there's more to just the website being changed. In the press release it mentions logging in using Facebook which brings me to my next item that for me is a bit interesting.

While on Facebook I noticed a friend had typed mj.com in her post and then noticed a Welcome sign at the end of her post. I clicked on the mj link and it brought me to this:

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Look at question # 2 and the reply. The reply seems for all purposes that it is being answered by Michael. I don't know when these questions were asked - does anyone have any information on this?

Here is what it looks like on Facebook when you type mj.com:

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1. Why would fans now be able to access an old website that Michael had created in 1994?

2. Why when a link is provided to mj.com (on facebook) we have a welcome sign above it?


I do have one thing that comes to mind. Everyone remember Murray's documentary that he made to clear himself? There was this that was included with the slide presentation:

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So, is Michael trying to tell us to pay attention? If so, to what?

Here's the link:

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Hoax Pictures / Is this a set list from This Is It
« on: October 12, 2014, 11:34:11 PM »
I don't know if this has been discussed on here or not; hopefully it has because this has been bugging me for years.

In this pic from This Is It you can see a piece of paper laying on the stage with some writing on it. I have tried over and over to figure out what it says but can't.

It does look like some type of list though, songs or instructions or something.

Is there anyone who can make the writing more clear or does someone know what it says?

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Michael Jackson's Son
I'M ON THE MONEY TEAM
... With Floyd Mayweather
 10/6/2014 7:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

 There's only been ONE person who spent his fortune more recklessly than Floyd Mayweather ... and now that person's son is an official member of Floyd's "Money Team."

Prince Michael Jackson was rollin' through Calabasas this weekend -- with "The Money Team" decals plastered all over his tricked out GMC truck ... joining other TMT members like Warren Buffett, Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne.

Prince is a HUUUGE fight fan -- and has been training in jiu-jitsu at the renowned Gracie Academy in Beverly Hills. Clearly, he's into boxing as well.

For the record, Floyd's spending sprees DON'T HOLD A CANDLE to MJ's shopping habits ... especially in Vegas, where Michael would spend MILLIONS of dollars in a matter of minutes.


All I could think of while reading this was the energy drink that Murray was behind, Pit Bull. It turned out that it was linked to boxing (as a sponsor).

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Tohme Tohme / Is this Tohme?
« on: September 26, 2014, 01:17:59 AM »
Is this Tohme in the left pic? I put a side by side of him and Tohme and they do look alike.

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This was from a video (no longer available but all of his other vids are there).

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Michael Jackson rare images part 8
Uploaded on Jul 17, 2010 
Some of the rarest EVER in my latest upload

Even if it isn't Tohme does anyone know anything about this pic? Where is it from?


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Contradictions and all stuff that doesn't add up / Who Is Conrad R Murray?
« on: September 25, 2014, 03:53:13 PM »
I think most of us believe that Conrad is in the middle of all of this and there has been an enormous amount of information on this guy.

I thought maybe it would help if all of this info was in one place - it might connect some dots seeing it side by side.

Personal Info:

Birthdate:   February 19, 1953 (bio online) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
                 February 19, 1958 (credit report from AEG trial) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
                 February 19, 1959 (mug shot from 1994 for Domestic Violence)

Birthplace:   St. Andrews, Grenada (bio online) You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Parents:       Rawle Andrews Sr. and Milta (step father Leon Augustin Rush)

Siblings:       Ronald Andrews (1/2 brother)
                   Rawle Andrews Jr. (1/2 brother)
                   Rhonda Andrews Bowers (1/2 sister)
                   Rhetta Andrews (1/2 sister)
                   Susan (Suzan) Rush (½ sister)

Children:     7 that I know of (but only 3 have information about them online)

Marriage/Divorces: 

MARRIAGE RECORD

State: TEXAS
Type: Marriage
Filing Number: 192902
County: HARRIS
Marriage Date: 10/17/1984
Party 1
Name: MURRAY, CONRAD R
Type: GROOM
Age: 31
Address: TX
Party 2
Name: TESFAI, ZUFAN
Type: BRIDE
Age: 23
Address: TX

DIVORCE RECORD

Party 1
Name: MURRAY, CONRAD R
Type: HUSBAND
Address: TX
Party 2
Name: MURRAY, ZUFAN
Type: WIFE
Age: 27
Address: TX

Conrad Murray's Wife: Blanche Yvette Bolick Murray:
DOB: 8/28/1962
344-66-xxxx

I have never seen the marriage certificate for Murray and Blanche and haven't been able to find a record of it anywhere.


SS#’s:        464-51-3799* (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Texas, 1981 (possibly born 1971) 
                  601-29-3121* (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Arizona, 1992-1995 (possibly born 1981)
                  289-78-1390* (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Ohio, 1982 (possibly born 1972)
                  454-51-3799**** (credit report from AEG trial) was issued in Texas, 1980 (possibly born 1970)

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Info from credit report provided from the AEG trial:

TTX2 RHS ****MURRAY, CONRAD ROBERT 454513799; CA-2426 GRASSY SPRING PLACE/LAS VEGAS NV 89135; Y-1951- K-PH, H-YM T-2B

*Las Vegas NV 89101
RPTD: 5-08 U 1X

*12520 SWAN CANYON CT
SAN DIEGO CA 921313542
RPTD: 12-07 U

* CONRAD B MURRAY, CONRAD BONNICK-MURRAY,
* CONRAD MD, CONRAD R MURRAY SR, CONRAD MC MURRAY

FRAUD SHIELD SUMMARY
INPUT SSN ISSUED 1979-1981 (issued years matches to SSN’s provided above for 464-51 and 454-51)
SSN REPORTED MORE FREQUENTLY FOR ANOTHER
FROM 8-01-09 INQ COUNT FOR SSN=2
FROM 8-01-09 INQ COUNT FOR ADDRESS=1

Known Addresses:  link to forum thread and link from AEG trial
 
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                      2579 Red Springs Drive, Las Vegas, Nevada (online property records)
                      2426 Grassy Spring Place, Las Vegas, Nevada (raid and police interview)
                      12520 Swan Canyon Ct., San Diego, CA  (AEG trial)
                                 

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                     Texas Southern University (1981) SSN 464-51-3799
                     Meharry Medical College (graduated 1989)
                     Mayo Clinic (somewhere between 1989 and 1992)
                     Loma Linda University (1992) SSN 601-29-3121                     
                     University of AZ (1995) SSN 601-29-3121
                     Sharp Memorial Hospital/San Diego (1996) SSN 601-29-3121

Knowing Michael:  treated kids in December 2006
                           Became personal Dr. in May 2009 (prescribed drugs in Nov. 2008 – autopsy report)


Professional Info:

1999/2000 – NEVADA – Global Cardiovascular
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File Date:   3/17/2000
Registered Agent Information 
Name:   CONRAD R MURRAY MD Address 1:   2121 E FLAMINGO SUITE #301
Address 2:    City:   LAS VEGAS
State:   NV Zip Code:   89119
Secretary - STACEY RUGGLES
Treasurer - SUSAN RUSH
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Dr. Conrad Murray
2110 E Flamingo Rd
Suite 210
Las Vegas, NV 89119
702-866-6802
Neighborhood
Paradise

In addition 3 other physicians are listed for this same address and more importantly same suite # but different phone #.
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Another known address for Global Cardiovascular Associates (this addresses has never been part of the hoax-same phone number as the Flamingo address and on Michael Amir’s phone from the trial)

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Year? – NEVADA - 3121 S. Maryland Parkway, Suite 602, Las Vegas, Nevada
Global Cardiovascular Assoc
3121 S Maryland Pkwy Ste 602
Las Vegas, NV 89109
Phone
(702) 866-6802

Fax
(702) 866-6904

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Distance by Land Transport : 2.482
3121 s Maryland parkway and 2110 east flamingo road


Year? – San Diego, CA
The link I have no longer works but this is an excerpt from the article, dated Thu 07/13/2006
"Murray, who also has practices in Las Vegas and San Diego will be in the Acres Homes facility a few days each month, he sad, adding that he will personally perform specialized heart procedures".



2006 – Texas - Acres Homes Heart and Vascular Institute (509 West Tidwell Rd, Houston, TX)
The link I have no longer works but this is an excerpt from the article, dated Thu 07/13/2006
“The lobby of the Tidwell Medical Plaza, 509 Tidwell Drive, was filled on July 7 with residents from the Acres Homes community marking the opening of Acres Home Heart and Vascular Institute”.

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Year? – Texas - 6826 W Montgomery Rd, Houston, TX (raid)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMgRDH2fQ3s[/youtube]

The video above makes you think they are showing you the 6826 W Montgomery location but they show a plaque with Murrays name on it. When you google the other Dr.'s name it comes up as 6031 Airline Drive.

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Year? – Texas
- 9999 Montgomery Rd, Houston TX

There is a video (I think from CNN) where the correspondent is talking about the 6826 Montgomery location but shows a clinic located at 9999 Montgomery instead. And yes that address does exist because I have been there. I'll keep searching for the video.

Feb. 2010 – NEVADA – 6725 S Eastern Ave (when he went back to work in Vegas)
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I am really curious about the different SSN #'s that Murray has, because by law you can only have one. And since he was not born in the US (at least that is what we have been made to believe) does a naturalized citizen receive a SSN or some other type of document when they move to the US? I have done some searching on this and will post it including the different SSN's associated with all of the liens.



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Revisiting Old Stuff / Susan Rush - Conrad Murray's sister
« on: September 24, 2014, 03:50:12 PM »
It's been talked about in the hoax world that Murray's sister Susan Rush owns a circus. I did some searching to see if the following info is already here but couldn't find anything. If this info below has already been discussed, sorry.

Here is some info that might clear some things up in regards to this.

The car that was towed from Carolwood is owned by Susan Rush with an address listed of Houston, TX:

Thank You for your order. The results for Texas License Plate SCH134 are as follows:
Owner Name: Susan Mary Rush
Owner Address: 10629 Sandpiper Dr. Houston, TX 77096
VIN Number: WBAEK73475B323154
Vehicle Description: 2005 BMW 645Ci
Lien Holder: BMW Bank of North America
Purchase Price: $54, 487.00
Previously registered to the same owner in Las Vegas, NV

Who owns this property?

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10629 Sandpiper Drive
Owner: Suzan M Rush
Assessed Value: $19,023
City: Houston-Greater Fondren Southwest
Zip: 77096
County: Harris County TX
Region: West Houston
Neighborhood: Greater Fondren Southwest
Subdivision: Northbrook Village
Street: Sandpiper Drive
Yr. Built: 1973
Builder:—
Sqft (land | living):N/A land | 1,500 living
Bedrooms: 2
Bathrooms: 2
Property Taxes: $211.49 (2009)
Stories: 1
No sales history is available

I found this info saying someone else owns it or at least lives there:

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Lennard Inniss
10629 Sandpiper Drive
Houston, TX 77096-5401
7137722113


Business search for Susan Rush in Magnolia, TX:

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SUSAN RUSH
CLAIM THIS BUSINESS
37219 PINE BARK LN MAGNOLIA, TX 77354
Get Directions
(281) 770-5251
Business Info
Founded 2001
Incorporated
Annual Revenue $50,000.00
Employee Count 1
Industries Circus Company
Contacts SUSAN RUSH

Who owns 37219 Pine Bark Lane?

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37219 Pine Bark Lane
Owner: David W Rush
Assessed Value: $116,020
City: Magnolia
Zip: 77354
County: Montgomery County TX
Region: South Montgomery/The Woodlands
Neighborhood:— 
Subdivision: Hazy Hollow East Estates
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Yr. Built: 1972
Builder:—
Sqft (land | living):23,087 land | 1,580 living
Bedrooms: N/A
Bathrooms: 2
Property Taxes: $1,124.80 (2010)
Stories: 1
No sales history is available

Other property owned by David W Rush:

Single Family 31119 Mistletoe Trail
Magnolia, TX 77354
Owner: David W Rush 
Property 
Owner: David W Rush
Assessed Value: $25,030
City: Magnolia
Zip: 77354
County: Montgomery County TX
Region: South Montgomery/The Woodlands
Neighborhood:—
Subdivision: Hazy Hollow East Estates
Street: Mistletoe Trail
Yr. Built: 1986
Builder:—
Sqft (land | living): 22,215 land | 300 living
Bedrooms: N/A
Bathrooms: 1
Property Taxes: $356.05 (2010)
Stories: 1
No sales history is available


We have two different cities involved:

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The driving distance from Magnolia, Texas to Houston, Texas is:
44 miles / 71 km

Since the Magnolia address is linked to a David Rush he is either Susan's husband or brother. In Milta's letter to the court about Conrad she says 'my first born child and my only son'. That would leave David Rush to be Susan's husband and her last name of Rush is by marriage.

Link to the letter:


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There is also information about the BMW that we were given during the AEG trial and from TMZ.

One pic shows a Texas license plate with a Nevada license frame around it. Another pic shows an opened trunk that clearly shows a Nevada license plate laying there (can't see the license number though).

So why would there be a Nevada license plate laying in the trunk of a vehicle with a TX plate on the vehicle? If you go back to the beginning of this post records show that the car had been previously registered in Nevada. Why keep the old license plate and when did Susan Rush move to Texas?


Here is the pic from the AEG trial:

[pdf]http://www.psblaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Exhibit-500-314LAPD002415.pdf[/pdf]


I'll post the pic from TMZ in a little bit plus some more info.




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